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92 Lazer AWD or 90 5.0?flip888 06-12-2006, 02:06 AM I have a 1990 foxbody mustang with a 331 stroker on a 4-bolt block, twisted wedge aluminium heads, e303 cam, built aod, 4.10 gears, gt40 intake, full suspension, 3'' exhaust, weight reduction, and a few other things that does mid-low 11's on motor with DRs with 1.6 60' (and 10's when it had a 150 shot) but i dont drive it much since its extremely loud, bad on gas, and cant handle very good, and im trying to decide if i should sell it and build up a AWD DSM that i have. The mustang is extremely reliable for what it is and very street-able too, if not for the mpg and loudness it would be my daily driver for sure. The body is in kinda rough shape though. If i build the dsm I would probably go with a fp3065 turbo (my friends ran a 11.x on one with a supra side mount (and im pretty sure that was all on pump gas too)) and i know i will be able to make it run at least 11s maybe even on pump gas and maybe eventually 10s someday if i ever build up the motor and everything. But the main reason i like the DSM a lot is because it can be a daily driven car and it handles like crazy. The guy i got it from used it for autox and did some suspension mods and got this thing to handle like an evo, maybe even better. plus with the awd it would be lot nicer in the rain or snow, and i would probably get 25 mpg to top it off. So ill have a car that's almost as fast (probably faster from a roll), gets good mpg, handles well, is AWD, but its not as reliable, and it isnt quite as fast. I was just wondering what you guys would do because i really like both cars and i cant afford to keep them both. Thanks Broke_as_**** 06-12-2006, 03:12 AM Well...what do you like doing? You like the drag strip more than the auto cross circuit? Do you like driving out on the street more than on a drag strip or auto cross? flip888 06-14-2006, 03:02 PM I think i would rather have a fun street car than a fast strip car, and with all the things like mpg and streetability i think im gonna sell the 5.0 thanks I could build another fast 5.0 for really cheaply if i ever wanted to anyways. Andrew7dg 06-14-2006, 06:43 PM I think I can be a little help on this. You see I just bought a 90 GSX and I am building up a S-10 with a 350. I am using the GSX as a DD and I am Enjoying it. Like you said though it is a lot less reliable but if you do your own engine work it isn't so bad. I like working on mind during the weekends. If I had to pick between the two I would pick the better daily driver. For me the better daily driver is the GSX. Why? I live in minnesota and the AWD system is great in the winters. The gas milage isn't that bad however it isn't 25mpg it is more like 19-21 which isn't so bad (probably a little better if I lay off the gas). In your case you would have a good handling car to start with. I think that is hard to set up on DSMs. Modifying the engine is really easy to do. So with a little work you could get a great handling car with a quick 1/4 mile. Kind of best of both worlds. Thats what I saw in the DSMs in the first place. With my S-10 (or your mustang) they are probably in great condition and fun to drive. I am going to love my s-10 when I get it completed however I am putting a lot of work into it an I am probably going to freak if I get one scratch on it. With my GSX I have put numerous scratches into it by accident and I don't really mind. I drive it and have fun with it. To get the DSM into the 11 will take a little work and make sure you get the transmission rebuilt for the abuse. Once you do and get the engine running strong, there is nothing like an awd launch off the line!!!! You have to tell me though what kind of suspension setup you are running on that DSM though! (wheels, tires, suspension) flip888 06-17-2006, 02:24 AM Im not sure, i dont rember all the brand names but its got everything in stage 1 street from tsmtuners trech guid. thats about all i know so far. http://dsmtuners.com/sub.php?page=1gsuspension Carbon Fibre 06-18-2006, 12:49 AM Not as reliable as a Ford? Anything is better!!!!!! Carbon Fibre 06-18-2006, 01:09 AM Yes, Build your tranny to the hilt! My Eclipse when I was 16 could beat your car, but it wouldn't smoke space saver spares 'cause of the AWD. And with the turbo? The Mitsu version of the Talon kicked every cars ass in the street car challenge in import tuner. Beef the tranny and booost it bitch! That car will amase you compared to yer 5.crap. As for reliability, anyone who tells me a mustang is more reliable than a Mitsu is full of s**t. It's a F-ing Ford. What else u need to know? Your launch, cornering ability, and mileage should tell U that stock, that car is better than yer Stang. And it's turbo, right? Sooooo much more speed U are capable of my son. My Scirocco will embarass 5.0's. blakscorpion21 06-18-2006, 10:00 AM a mustang is way more reliable than just about anything made by mitsu. especially dsms. plus you can build a 5.0 to smoke a dsm on a strip. when it comes to drag racing you cant beat a 5.0 without some serious money. camaroincal 06-18-2006, 01:35 PM Yes, Build your tranny to the hilt! My Eclipse when I was 16 could beat your car, but it wouldn't smoke space saver spares 'cause of the AWD. And with the turbo? The Mitsu version of the Talon kicked every cars ass in the street car challenge in import tuner. Beef the tranny and booost it bitch! That car will amase you compared to yer 5.crap. As for reliability, anyone who tells me a mustang is more reliable than a Mitsu is full of s**t. It's a F-ing Ford. What else u need to know? Your launch, cornering ability, and mileage should tell U that stock, that car is better than yer Stang. And it's turbo, right? Sooooo much more speed U are capable of my son. My Scirocco will embarass 5.0's. There are so many Mustang 5.0's that will embarrass you at the strip or road course it's not even funny. You should have more respect for them if you were a real car enthusiast. blakscorpion21 06-19-2006, 06:11 PM There are so many Mustang 5.0's that will embarrass you at the strip or road course it's not even funny. You should have more respect for them if you were a real car enthusiast. yea, the car is ugly as sin but they have crazy potential. pimprolla112 06-19-2006, 11:30 PM Fox body mustang has to be one the cheapest to make fast drag cars on the market. Thats what about 75% of my business deals with is the fox body and early 94-96 5.0 mustangs. These guys will spend about 10-15k and with another 3-5 they can have there cars in the 8's. Il agree with blackscorpion the mustang is more reliable than any mitsu. ANd camaroincal is right true car enthusiast will have there likes and dislikes, but they wont rag on other cars if they know there true potential. kman10587 06-20-2006, 02:20 AM Yeah, you don't have to like the Mustang 5.0 (I sure don't) but at least concede that it's cheap, fast, cheap to make fast, and reliable. And honestly, not that bad of a daily driver, in my opinion. flip888 06-20-2006, 09:20 PM Yeah, as far as cars with built motors go, the 5.0 mustang is hard to beat as far as reliability goes. I have a friend whos made hundreds of low 12 sec passes on his DD 210,000 mile 1991 5.0 notch without Any reliability problems. And many 11 sec nitrous passes too. Hes got somethin like headers, and a cutout right after the headers on the stock exhaust an intake from an explorer, ported heads out of a truck or something from a JY fuel pump injectors huge cam clutch 3:73 gears slicks spool some suspension work and thats about it and he runs low 12s with it, 12.1 i think was his best and he spent about $3000 on mods. And now that hes gone carb he should be even faster. If you know your shit you can do a lot with these cars, my car has $8000+ into it and im barely faster (my car is auto), if he slammed 8k into his car he would run 10s probably. Pretty impressive for the money spent. camaroincal 06-20-2006, 11:20 PM Plus they sound godly. :) vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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