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jTx
06-11-2006, 07:23 PM
so recently when i was cleaning out my car i found that my driver side floor was soaking wet .. at first i thought maybe water was just trapped under there because i had a second layer of custom carpet on it so i didnt dirty the actual carpet, and then rubber floor mats ... dried it out no problem

a few days later the rain came again and once again my floor was soaked, realized i had more of a problem

today when i was jacking up my car with a floor jack to replace a tie rod end i think i found the weak spot in the metal undercarriage because the jack kinda punched through the metal. i didnt take a good look at it (i forgot) but i would assume that whole area is bad

how can i fix it?

HPNOTIQracing
06-11-2006, 07:53 PM
sheet metal and jb weld.

das2123
06-12-2006, 10:00 AM
sheet metal and jb weld.
:iagree:

jTx
06-12-2006, 11:29 AM
a follow up, found out that its not a problem per se with the metal underneath, rather the circle area presumably for a floor jack the circle piece of metal popped up and all the "stuff" under the carpet is cracked and broken

ive now pulled out the carpet and am drying it out.. gonna go get some of that jb weld and seal that piece in there real good

you wouldnt believe the amount of water under there and in the carpet padding... its crazy

FemaleRacer
06-16-2006, 05:49 AM
so recently when i was cleaning out my car i found that my driver side floor was soaking wet .. at first i thought maybe water was just trapped under there because i had a second layer of custom carpet on it so i didnt dirty the actual carpet, and then rubber floor mats ... dried it out no problem

a few days later the rain came again and once again my floor was soaked, realized i had more of a problem

today when i was jacking up my car with a floor jack to replace a tie rod end i think i found the weak spot in the metal undercarriage because the jack kinda punched through the metal. i didnt take a good look at it (i forgot) but i would assume that whole area is bad

how can i fix it?

I'm having the exact same problem in my rear passenger side floor. I've spent a month trying to fix door and window seals...etc. I never thought about it coming from underneath!!! thanks for the post---you may have fixed my problem too!!!!

das2123
06-16-2006, 09:30 AM
I'm having the exact same problem in my rear passenger side floor. I've spent a month trying to fix door and window seals...etc. I never thought about it coming from underneath!!! thanks for the post---you may have fixed my problem too!!!!Have you sealed the taillights yet?

FemaleRacer
06-16-2006, 04:06 PM
Have you sealed the taillights yet?

There's no water in the trunk or the back seat. Could it still be the tail lights?

das2123
06-16-2006, 11:20 PM
There's no water in the trunk or the back seat. Could it still be the tail lights?It won't get on the seats. It will run down underneath them to the floorboard.

Wollf
06-17-2006, 01:47 AM
There would more then likely be some water in the back end somewhere if the taillights were leaking. Try a door seal if your really stuck but other then that dont know for sure , lots of places water can get in if it really wants to.

das2123
06-18-2006, 01:50 PM
There would more then likely be some water in the back end somewhere if the taillights were leaking.You haven't seen it in enough neons then, if you believe that :grinyes:

Wollf
06-18-2006, 01:56 PM
im driving one , and just looked at it again , yeah there would be water in the back end if taillights were leaking

HPNOTIQracing
06-18-2006, 08:16 PM
im driving one , and just looked at it again , yeah there would be water in the back end if taillights were leaking

ive notice you have a hard time grasping concept in alot of these posts and you give alot of useless info. i know your trying to help but you should have a better understanding of the car that your giving info about before you try to point someone in the right direction.

what das is saying is just because yours has water in the rear doesnt mean all have it in the rear.
hes saying just because the back is dry doesnt mean that is not where the leak is.

Wollf
06-19-2006, 12:20 AM
I understand what hes saying , and in his land maybe water works different then here but here it has to flow from one place to another , it cant come in the back and suddenly appear in the front, it needs a path. Im sorry there is so much mis-information being passed around here all it does is confuse people. Instead of people putting up one idea and saying its the problem people should be helping others find what really is the problem with good questions instead of

"You haven't seen it in enough neons then, if you believe that "

Information is helpfull , needless posts to raise your numbers isnt.

HPNOTIQracing
06-19-2006, 10:13 AM
first das has been here a long time. so have i but under other names.
this is not a numbers thing.

also this is not a false information thing either, which you seem to know all about

chadmilliser
06-20-2006, 03:07 AM
Get Some Sheet Metal And Fix That Floor And Then Take Out The Carpet And Have A Freind Hose It Down And Look For The Water To Come In Then Fix It . Hope That Helps

das2123
06-20-2006, 02:44 PM
im driving one , and just looked at it again , yeah there would be water in the back end if taillights were leakingSo you don't believe me, but you believe this "chip" will work? :rofl: :rofl:
you dont need to send your ecu away , you can buy a * chip * for your car , it doesnt plug in like the newer vehicles , but you do hard wire it in , its about a 30 min job if you go slowly and it does improve response time in your throttle

Wollf
06-20-2006, 03:48 PM
Nope i dont believe you.

das2123
06-20-2006, 10:58 PM
Nope i dont believe you.You don't have to, as I won't take anything you say as credit worthy after seeing you stand behind the "Chip".

Wollf
06-21-2006, 10:44 AM
You don't have to, as I won't take anything you say as credit worthy after seeing you stand behind the "Chip".

Freedom of choice , its in your constition i do believe. Good for you.

HPNOTIQracing
06-21-2006, 10:19 PM
Freedom of choice , its in your constition i do believe. Good for you.

you choose to give non factual information to people and lead them in the wrong direction. i know alot of shop owners who rip people off, telling them one thing when its another. you remind of them.:screwy:

slick5066
07-23-2006, 06:04 PM
Hi, I'm a welder and honestly I wouldn't use this JB weld stuff to actually hold 2 pieces of metal together. If it's just a hole in the floor of your car and you don't know how to weld, just cut out any rust that exists with a hand held electric grinder with a really thin cut off wheel. This is just a really thin grinding wheel and make sure to use safety glasses and or a face shield. Then find some sheet metal preferably the same thickness as what is used on the floor of your car. Cut a piece a few inches bigger so it overlaps and use rivets first then use fiberglass filler over all of it. Fiberglass filler will keep moisture out. Sand it down as smooth as possible then cover with something like a rubberized sealer. Underneith you should use like an undercoating to keep it from rusting too. Good luck. slick5066 :grinyes:

growe58
07-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Hi, I'm a welder and honestly I wouldn't use this JB weld stuff to actually hold 2 pieces of metal together.

Agreed, at the very least pop rivet it. You can get sheet metal at many hardware stores. But if you don't have the tools, take it to a body shop and get an estimate. They have the right equipment and I'll bet they can cut it out and reweld new metal in there for a pretty reasonable price, particularly if you prep it first by removing the necessary carpet, trim etc.

HPNOTIQracing
07-24-2006, 12:07 AM
ive used jb weld for so many things. metal on metal metal on plastic.

i last used it to hold a broke in half throttle body together and its still running great(not on my car thou...on my friends)

skatendestroy
07-28-2006, 06:43 PM
i jbwelded my radiator closed god that stuff works wonders i broke the pin that on top of the radiator for the support bracket to go on and it put a hole in the top but allitle jb weld solved that problem

slick5066
07-28-2006, 07:12 PM
Well maybe I should check that stuff out. Just never used it before. LOL! :grinyes:

Austin8214
07-30-2006, 07:54 AM
I have patched cracks in engine blocks with the stuff trust me when i say it will hold.:thumbsup:

FemaleRacer
08-06-2006, 03:29 AM
THIS IS THE UNDERSIDE OF YOUR CAR!!! I'm all for do it yourself auto projects...but if you're not CONFIDENT in doing something permanent to your car you may want to leave it to a pro. It's not like a part that you can take on and off...you don't want to make an error here and really have a serious leaking problem. I had the underside of my Neone welded before and I'm glad a professional did it. By all means do what you want...just consider wether or not it's worth what you save.

yale329
09-20-2006, 09:52 AM
jut curious, does a neon have drain plugs anywhere under the car. Just curious
Wayne

das2123
09-20-2006, 10:05 AM
jut curious, does a neon have drain plugs anywhere under the car. Just curious
WayneJust the oil drain plug and radiator drain cock :grinyes:

yale329
09-20-2006, 10:08 AM
Thanks, I deserverd that. Let me be more specific.
GM and some cars use to have rubber plugs under each floor well, and be nice this Time
Wayne

das2123
09-20-2006, 10:12 AM
Thanks, I deserverd that. Let me be more specific.
GM and some cars use to have rubber plugs under each floor well, and be nice this Time
WayneI knew what you meant, thats why I said JUST the oil and radiator plugs :lol2: ...

But to answer your question directly, no it doesn't.

yale329
09-20-2006, 10:16 AM
Thanks and I enjoyed that one, you could have said worse
Wayne

yale329
09-20-2006, 10:52 AM
If it's the front mat , check all rubber plugs behind your engine.
You can also take off the air intake on the front of your windshield and apply silicone, automotive to any hole that will NOT be noticed once the cover is replaced. Also check your windshield moulding and metall exterior for rust or separated moulding. Again with a auto silicone, black, use a pencil and gently pry open an obvious spots . fill and wipe it off with a wet cloth.

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