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cars I hate!MBTN 02-12-2001, 09:35 PM Z06. 0-60 in 4, hosh posh! Bah! Porsche Turbo is anus! Porsche Boxter- I see it so much I want to spit at them, and I do! Dumb teens in their Lexus' and Benz's their mommies and daddies buy them. Go away, you are anus faced goblin biters! :) GNX is Ugly incarnate. If Medusa came calling as a car, she would be the GNX. Take that! Ferrari is l337. w00t! I'm a Ferrari guy. :D Bean Bandit 02-13-2001, 04:54 AM I'll definetly wont get any comments to your post but want to add mine:D I hate Honda CRX that back is so ugly that I have to puke when I look at it too long. Absolutly distasteful is also Fiat Multipla it's a shame to call it a car. That's the seed of evil all others are toleratable. SkylinesKillAll 02-13-2001, 08:19 PM i hate the pontiac asstek. it is so ugly i hope each and everyone of them ends up in a tree or telphone pole or ditch. jus get em off the road. MBTN 02-13-2001, 08:36 PM I forgot to add VW Bugs, they are everywhere, they seem to be matig and reproducing. :) PT Cruisers make hairy anus' seem nice to look at. The people who drive those must eb ass ramming cock goblins.:D enzo@af 02-22-2001, 05:48 PM Yeah, I can't stand the GNX. I'm not sure how it can be considered "good looking"....but I feel the same about most porsche's in history. I do, however, like the 996 turbo and the boxster. I also hate Beetles, PT cruisers, thunderbird...all of those "retro" cars...FUGLY! crash 02-23-2001, 06:33 PM Just curious, what does everyone not like about the GNX? Just the body style in general? Do you guys not like the regular GN's or is it just those fender flares and fender vents on the GNX? MBTN 02-23-2001, 07:40 PM I already stated why I don't like the GNX: IT'S FREAKIN' UGLY! If there were a site called http://www.uglycars.com, it would be on the main page! If there were a magazine, it would be on the cover... every month! Bah! crash 02-23-2001, 08:44 PM So you don't like the regular GN's or T-Types either? MBTN 02-23-2001, 10:22 PM Gee, you don't get it do you? :) Um, NO! carmaster 02-24-2001, 07:47 PM The boxster is for people who can't afford a real posrche like the lower 944s and the 914. crash 02-27-2001, 11:03 PM Well you singled out the GNX's. No need to be an ass, there is a difference between the three. Heep 02-28-2001, 03:44 PM I think the GNX is great. One of the best sleepers. 300 hp producing 0-60 in 4.6 sec in a nearly stock looking Regal. I guess whether you like the looks or not is up to you, but I think they are beautiful. KennyH 02-28-2001, 04:42 PM its not regal is it? i thought i was grand-national... I absolutely hat the PT CRUISER and teh VW Beetle I am starting to dislike the S-Class mercedes... everday i see them- they are so common that i am bored of them- seriously- i would rather a freakin STS Heep 03-01-2001, 04:54 PM The GNX is Grand National based, which is Regal based (I believe...) gang$tarr 03-01-2001, 05:08 PM MBTN you don't like the Z06? Welcome to the team :) MBTN 03-04-2001, 01:19 PM I am 100% biased towards Ferrari. I am Italian, it's in my blood. It all started back in the day when my uncle still had his 308. enzo@af 03-04-2001, 07:02 PM Originally posted by crash@af Just curious, what does everyone not like about the GNX? Just the body style in general? Do you guys not like the regular GN's or is it just those fender flares and fender vents on the GNX? I dislike all GN's. MBTN 03-04-2001, 08:02 PM Rock on, Enzo! Seb928S@af 03-04-2001, 10:27 PM Originally posted by carmaster@af The boxster is for people who can't afford a real posrche like the lower 944s and the 914. The 944 Porsche are really Porsche made and designed by hmmm Porsche. Yes the 924 is a VW/Audi but the 944 is not. The 944 is a great track car and it will blow away a Camero in the turns! :) Porsche 03-05-2001, 05:48 PM Your saying that a brand new 944 S turbo Coupe was for people who couldn't afford a 911? I do dislike the 914's though. Partly because in NFS5 they top out a 110 km/h. That dosen't really affected my disliking though. Seb928S@af 03-05-2001, 07:26 PM Originally posted by Porsche Your saying that a brand new 944 S turbo Coupe was for people who couldn't afford a 911? I do dislike the 914's though. Partly because in NFS5 they top out a 110 km/h. That dosen't really affected my disliking though. I never said that did I? Porsche 03-06-2001, 05:49 PM I know that! I was posting to carmaster! You had just said the 944 was good. It is good. Seb928S@af 03-06-2001, 06:29 PM Originally posted by Porsche I know that! I was posting to carmaster! You had just said the 944 was good. It is good. Ok just trying to tell the truth here. They are great track cars. MBTN 03-06-2001, 09:24 PM Porsche sucks! Ferrari forever! Z06Lover 03-20-2001, 03:36 PM Originally posted by gang$tarr MBTN you don't like the Z06? Welcome to the team :) So you don't like the Z06...what do you like? name another 48k car that can run with the Z06 stock? I am a porsche fan myself. I would love a GT2 and a carrera GT, but they are a bit more then my Z06. Erik :flipa: :finger: MBTN 03-20-2001, 04:13 PM Just because it's cheap and go go very fast doesn't mean it has to be liked. Asshole. :flipa: :devil: Porsche 03-20-2001, 05:01 PM Hey, settle down, where is MRcorvetteZ06? Z06Lover 03-20-2001, 05:35 PM If you look at these two little guys :flipa: :finger: they are clearly smiling..I was just jokin around. Besides MTBN you are the one trying to start flame wars with Porsche sux, Ferrari rules..blah blah blah. So why don't you just go buy some more plastic toy ferraris at k-mart...hey you can run over there in your geo...nice work calling me an A$$hole too...real mature. How old are you like 16? MBTN 03-20-2001, 05:51 PM 17, but I liked your thinking. If you will also notice, the smiley face I used also is giving you the finger and is in a happy state of mind. My toy Ferraris are not all plastic, they are metal bodied, but they do have plastic parts. Once again, I like your thinking. BTW, my alias is MBTN, not MTBN, but I like your thinking, you silly little asshole. :finger: enzo@af 03-20-2001, 07:32 PM MBTN is my idol:D enzo@af 03-20-2001, 07:33 PM w00t Z06Lover 03-20-2001, 07:34 PM Originally posted by enzo@af MBTN is my idol:D Hey i am from beaverton now, but i grew up in that area. You own a ferrari?:bandit: enzo@af 03-20-2001, 08:16 PM nope....none that are actual size. All mine are one twenty-fourth the actual size, and don't have working engines...but they're paid off.;) The best I can muster is riding in one. MBTN 03-20-2001, 08:22 PM Excuse me, but Enzo, only I say w00t, for I am the only one that truly understands what w00t is. I am on the path to achieving eternal w00tyness. Please try not to say w00t, unless you too are on the path of w00tyness. :o Initial D 06-13-2001, 08:36 PM The ford focus is one but ugly car. vettemaan 06-22-2001, 11:46 PM i hate FERRARI especialy this one-http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/members/ferrarigto.jpg ;) Im 100% American its in my blood:) Heep 06-25-2001, 08:01 AM Originally posted by vettemaan i hate FERRARI especialy this one-http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/members/ferrarigto.jpg ;) :flamer: :rocket: :eshooter: :angryfire :D Porsche 06-27-2001, 05:03 PM Mr. T voice- Eh! I pity the foo who hate that car! Z06Lover 06-27-2001, 05:11 PM Originally posted by vettemaan i hate FERRARI especialy this one-http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/members/ferrarigto.jpg ;) Im 100% American its in my blood:) Give credit where credit it due. I love Ferraris, Porsches, some japanese cars, some american cars....can we have love for cars that come from different manufactures and different countries? I mean women and cars are a lot alike. I love american women, asian women, euro women....all women if they look good!! :) I'm a guy...what can I say. Why limit yourself with women or cars?? just my .02. Z06Lover 06-27-2001, 05:17 PM Originally posted by MBTN Z06. 0-60 in 4, hosh posh! Bah! Porsche Turbo is anus! Porsche Boxter- I see it so much I want to spit at them, and I do! Dumb teens in their Lexus' and Benz's their mommies and daddies buy them. Go away, you are anus faced goblin biters! :) GNX is Ugly incarnate. If Medusa came calling as a car, she would be the GNX. Take that! Ferrari is l337. w00t! I'm a Ferrari guy. :D Well, if to be a ferrari guy you have to write l337 or w00t...then i will never be calling myself a ferrari guy. I do love ferraris, but w00t...oh, please stop...it's killing me!! ;) MBTN 06-27-2001, 06:36 PM How dare you! Heep and I will come and defeat you! There is much r0af in you! The end is near, for you. w00t! Z06Lover 06-27-2001, 06:38 PM Originally posted by MBTN How dare you! Heep and I will come and defeat you! There is much r0af in you! The end is near, for you. w00t! I am sorry....i don't usually pick on the mentally handicapped...i didn't realize...i'm soooo sorry!! ;) Heep 06-27-2001, 08:42 PM *Heep looks up vettemaan's address in the phone book.* "V.....Ve....Vet....um...he's not here." :D j/k MBTN 06-27-2001, 08:51 PM You will pay.... Innotech 07-01-2001, 02:07 AM Only my 12th grade friend from high school can achieve true w00tiness! He practically invented the word! He used it constantly.... Heep 07-01-2001, 10:22 AM Innotech.....isn't that where the guys worked in "Office Space"? olds88 08-15-2001, 09:16 PM hmmmm some one has a grand national complex consitering it can keep up with a vette and has amasing hp for what it is hmmm the spagetti benders would feel threatened by the gn and its true potential:devil: Twist 08-20-2001, 07:47 PM Chrysler PT Cruiser Pontiac Aztek Chrysler Prowler VW Beatle I feel that you can't simply make cars this ugly. It takes considerable time and practice and abillity. To quote some guy off the interntet: these cars represent the gradual (or sudden) change in car looks from beautiful to burn every one you see and destroy the manufacturing plant... olds88 08-20-2001, 10:20 PM any car were the engine compartment is smaller than the spare tire well Heep 08-21-2001, 03:47 PM lol! I hate "cab-forward" Rich 09-13-2001, 09:44 AM My #1 Hatred.......Vehicles like the Pontiac Aztec! like what is this supposed to be neways?some sort of half-assed van / suv?:confused: I also dislike Riced-out Civic's and CRX's Dodge Aries (the infamous K-car) 4cyl Mustangs Cannabis 11-01-2001, 11:54 AM Atztec Pt Cruiser Echo Well Generally Toyota, but the Echo more than the rest. Civic Speaking of the echo I have to tell this story. I was sitting on my neighbor's porch, when this echo pulled up full of guys. They were friends of the guy that trashed(and I mean trashed) her apartment the week before. They asked if she was having a party, and she said a private one. They said a couple more things, and finally decided to leave. So he revs his engine, and pops the clutch to back out, which made me flinch b/c he was next to my car. Then he try to pull away, but stalls the car 1, 2, 3, 4 times. There windows were down, so I was trying to coach him on how to drive a stick. Eventually, he reved the engine, and popped the clutch again to drive off. One of the funniest things I have seen in a long time. gang$tarr 11-01-2001, 07:44 PM Originally posted by Heep Innotech.....isn't that where the guys worked in "Office Space"? innotech: btw cannabis i woulda been laughin my ass off, hahah :D :D Spec2 Girl 11-11-2001, 04:01 PM I absolutely hate, loathe, despise and generally can't stand Toyota Starlets!!!! :apuke: :monkeypis MBTN 11-11-2001, 08:21 PM Why is this thread still fucking going?! :eek: Jay! 11-11-2001, 08:23 PM Because everything stays on the internet forever... Hahahaha!!! :lol2: Spec2 Girl 11-11-2001, 08:29 PM Originally posted by MBTN Why is this thread still fucking going?! :eek: Oops, sorry, it's probably my fault! :( Jay! 11-11-2001, 08:31 PM Originally posted by FTO Girl Oops, sorry, it's probably my fault! Don't apologize. All members are welcome to post their opinions in any open thread, no matter how old. :D gang$tarr 11-11-2001, 08:40 PM Originally posted by MBTN Why is this thread still fucking going?! :eek: probably cause there are always cars people hate :D mmcc 11-17-2001, 10:39 PM i dislike toyota especially starlets, windoms, camrys ........ gang$tarr 11-18-2001, 02:11 PM Originally posted by mmcc i dislike toyota especially starlets, windoms, camrys ........ what about the Toyota Supra? Rich 11-18-2001, 02:17 PM Originally posted by gang$tarr what about the Toyota Supra? No one can dislike the Supra...Its such a sweet ride. MattyG 11-18-2001, 02:18 PM The Daihatsu Move epitomises everything I hate about motor vehicles. Its Slow, Ugly, and has no style, unless you call total functionality a "style". gang$tarr 11-18-2001, 02:40 PM Originally posted by HuMMerMan No one can dislike the Supra...Its such a sweet ride. lol.. that's what i thought :D Cannabis 11-18-2001, 06:32 PM Actually I don't like the supra. I don't dislike it either, but I don't like it. I just don't like the styling. If it didn't have that big wing there is no telling what I would think. But that wing just pisses me off. gang$tarr 11-18-2001, 07:12 PM what about the ones that don't have any rear wing Cannabis 11-19-2001, 10:24 AM Without the rear wing the supra looks like something is missing. It needs a spoiler, just not a big ass wing. I like the RX-7 alot better. A rotary engine, beutiful design, plent of aftermarket mods. I love the RX-7. Jimster 11-19-2001, 01:55 PM Originally posted by MattyG The Daihatsu Move epitomises everything I hate about motor vehicles. Its Slow, Ugly, and has no style, unless you call total functionality a "style". Let's not forget it's cousins, the 1995-2000 Suzuki Wagon R+ and Hyundai AtoZ:apuke: Euro19 12-20-2001, 08:12 PM Originally posted by carmaster The boxster is for people who can't afford a real posrche like the lower 944s and the 914. That´s so rude. But quite true :D Euro19 12-20-2001, 09:58 PM Originally posted by Jimmy_11_cars Let's not forget it's cousins, the 1995-2000 Suzuki Wagon R+ and Hyundai AtoZ:apuke: Exactly. But the Daewoo Matiz (their competitor) is one of the few beautifull mini cars ever. cars I hate: The Toyota Echo/Yaris (sedan, hatchback and coupe) Hyundai Elantra Chevrolet MonteCarlo Toyota Corolla Kia Rio Pontiac Aztec Toyota Sienna Mercedes C SportCoupe Suzuki Jimny Subaru Forester Toyota MR2 Toyota Picnic Nissan Serena Kia Carnival ...I would never get either of this cars. Melis 12-29-2001, 10:42 AM They are everywhere here because there cheap and cheaply made...I see more and more of them- even the v8's all the time! Yuke......I like having a unique car-some people I have come across don't even know what a 3000GT is? "huh"??? LOL:sun: melis- Cbass 01-12-2002, 12:45 AM Okay, first of all, the Z06 is a masterpiece of engineering, and for 45k with traction control, ABS, and 92 octane gas, it's a steal. There isn't a better value supercar available, and only the lotus elise comes close in bang for buck. Now I'm too mature to start flaming about your mother in bang for buck, or her being featured on uglycars.com, just because she gets driven so much. Yes, the GNX is regal based. In 1978, Buick introduced the Regal T-Type, with a turbo charged carbureted 3.8 V6, which by the mid 80's developed into the electronic sequentially fuel injected, turbocharged 3800 making an honest 301 hp on the dyno. In 1987, GM switched to the W platform, killing all rear drivers except for Caddy's Caprices, and sports cars. The GNX was a special edition made in 87 with about 350 hp, and 400 ft lbs of torque. For the record, the GNX is a beautiful automobile. At least in my modest opinion. CorvetteMan 01-13-2002, 07:58 PM Ilove ZO6'S they are one of the best sports cars, you are just jealous.:flipa: Andre the Giant 01-15-2002, 11:44 AM What about the Toyota Echo...Echo... Echo...Echo.. Thats the fuggliest vehicle I've ever seen. It doesn't strike me as being very safe either. The 1986 Buick Regal Grand National is a great car. I'd take one in an instant. Polygon 01-15-2002, 12:59 PM Originally posted by Andre the Giant What about the Toyota Echo...Echo... Echo...Echo.. Thats the fuggliest vehicle I've ever seen. It doesn't strike me as being very safe either. The 1986 Buick Regal Grand National is a great car. I'd take one in an instant. Even worse than a Ford Aerostar "80s" or a Pontiac Aztec? I would almost say it is a three way tie. They should all have exterrior barf bags as an option so people won't puke on your car. CorvetteMan 01-15-2002, 02:53 PM Aztec is much better thatn the aero star when you drive an areostar it is like driving a big squared box I would like to call them the aerobox.:D Polygon 01-15-2002, 04:29 PM Hahaha, exactly. It's like a bax with a corner cut out of it. I wonder what those designers are doing now. Working on the Focus I suppose. :) YogsVR4 01-15-2002, 04:34 PM Originally posted by CorvetteMan Aztec is much better thatn the aero star when you drive an areostar it is like driving a big squared box I would like to call them the aerobox.:D That’s like saying you prefer to have green runny diarrhea instead of brown. :D ReasonOne 02-12-2002, 02:32 AM Tough call.....there are literally hundreds of cars I can't stand to see on the road today. A few that come to mind that tops my list are: AMC Pacer AMC Gremlin Ford Pinto Ford Mustang Skoda I have seen WAY too many defects on these cars to ever want to buy one of these EVER! Its a really tought call deciding which one I hate the most of all (the Mustang and Pacer are neck and neck). I know I am going to be seriously razzed by the Mustang lovers, but I used to work for Ford and have seen and experienced too many unfortunate incidents to ever bring myself to buy them (let alone look at one or be a passenger in one). :flash: ReasonOne 02-12-2002, 02:36 AM One more that ties for the worst is all Trabants should be DESTROYED! (if an environmentally friendly way could ever be found...lol):sun: Jimster 02-14-2002, 12:20 AM Oops looks like I have never posted my list of cars I hate (And it is long) but here it goes Toyota Lucida/Estima Nissan Terrano Nissan Serena Toyota Carina Mazda Bongo/Ford Econovan Mazda RX-7 (All) Nissan Bluebird ARX All other Bluebirds Toyota Starlet Daewoo Cielo Daewoo Esperso Opel Kadett Austin Allegro Morris Marina Nissan Sunny Austin Maxi Peugeot 3O9 (Except GTi) Mazda Famila Rover SD1 Triumph Dolomite Renault Dauphene Skoda 120L Yugo GV Chevrolet Caprice Chevrolet Monte Carlo FIAT Regata ALL POST 1960's American cars (With a few exceptions) Suzuki Swift Suzuki Ignis Daihatsu Move Hyundai ATOZ Daewoo Matiz Daihatsu Mira/Cuore Perodua Nippa/Kenari Alfa Romeo Alfetta FIAT Chroma pre-1994 VW Polo FIAT 127/124/128 Lada Samara Lada Riva Opel Sintra Renault 11 Volvo 360 All boxy Volvo's Suzuki Alto Suzuki Escudo Nissan Safari *GASP* I think thats all HondaAdict 02-24-2002, 03:59 PM I CAN NOT STAND FORD FOCUS TOYOTA MATRIX AND FOR MUSTANGS mastachi 03-02-2002, 10:05 PM I really dont like ford focuses, smart cars, aztecs..geo metros, avalanches, the newer cadillacs, shit like that..and the renault dacha... check this site out.. www.beaterz.com Z06Lover 03-03-2002, 01:59 AM Originally posted by HondaAdict I CAN NOT STAND FORD FOCUS TOYOTA MATRIX AND FOR MUSTANGS nice sig!! :rolleyes: funny how every guy who drives one kind of slow, family, economy car has to make fun of another slow, family, economy car. a guy in an accord ripping on the focus. Both are FWD, both are commuter cars, both are reliable...etc etc. sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. these are the kinda of cars i can't stand: http://www.wingswest.com/wings/2000_Cvc_HB_R_489.jpg http://www.hotimportnights.com/gallery/10.13.01/DSCN8381.jpg http://www.ricecop.com/ricepics/ricedcougar2.jpg http://www.ricecop.com/ricepics/paraglidecivic2.jpg and i'm sure i could find more. And don't give me shit about being an import hater. I drive an S2000. The third car above is a mercury cougar too...we have domestic "rice" also. I get tired of posers. I get tired of people screaming look at me..look at me with their fart tips and gigant-o wings. Give me a piece of crap car any day over an econo box posing as a real car. CorvetteMan 03-31-2002, 07:44 PM Cars I hate: Aztec upcoming Pontiac Solstice Dodge Stealth old cars(the ones that are not fast and sporty)-well I actually think there boats Miatas(there speed)-a minivan can beat that thing and others :D :sun: CorvetteMan 03-31-2002, 07:46 PM Also: Mustang Focus Ford(Go away Ford u suck) :devil: :mad: :D :sun: 93speed 03-31-2002, 08:07 PM How about the new Honda Civic :bloated: That new Aerio from Suzuki :apuke: Or the ever popular Chevy Cavilier, Dodge Neon, and Pontiac Sunfire. Cbass 04-01-2002, 04:15 AM Hey, don't give the Aerostar no sass while you own a FWD Chrysler, punk. NA motors need big valves. Ford has big valves, Chevrolet and Chysler do not. Chrysler took a step in the right direction with their turbo cars in the 80's. Then they found out people were using them for performance cars. Performance being the inherent polar opposite of Chrysler, they dropped it all. I hate just about all Chryslers with a few notable exceptions. The A body(dart, demon, duster, valiant) The CopperHead(if they had built it. Which they didn't, because it's Chrysler.) I don't hold to brand loyalty, because every auto maker, yes, even Chrysler, has made good cars. Except for Trabant, and Lada. Z06Lover, I agree. I hate rice. A Honda S2000 is not rice. An S2000 is a legitimate, fast sports car. The 1st series Mazda Miata was underpowered, yes. It was also rear wheel drive, and really light. 10 more hp in a car like that is a big improvment. A turbo kit and good wheels and tires, stiff springs and a beefed up LSD rear end make that one of the best cars I have ever driven, and I've driven lots of Porsche turbos. Tinseltown349 04-01-2002, 02:17 PM I don't know about you Melis, but I see just about as many 3000GT Sl's out here as I do Mustangs and Camaros. :p Each of these cars, including 3000GT's, is plagued by the cheap lower end of their spectrums where they offer evil V6 or non-turbo versions...Basically, people can't afford the good version, settle for the rotten one to look cool, and when they get more money throw on a body kit. :( I'm sick of seeing Mustangs and Camaros in V6 form ( I believe it's a travesty of the worst kind ), but not seeing Mustangs or Camaros. Anywho, cars I absolutely would love to hit with a semi: Aztecs VW Beetles PT Cruisers Jeep Liberty- Please give me DEATH!!! Civics with window tint and noise-maker on tail end of it Vipers-YES! I HATE THESE!!!!! I'm sure the list could go on forever if I really sat down and thought about it, but...these take top honors. Kudos to their makers for making and marketing vomit. Cbass 04-02-2002, 05:41 PM Ah, Tinseltown, I see we think alike. Death to the riced up Honda Civics with coffecan mufflers and 4 inch exhaust tips. Reasonone, how the hell was the Trabant allowed to be built? How was it allowed to be sold? And just who the hell walked into a Trabi dealer(local scrapyard :D) and said, "Thats the car for me!" "It'll get 60 hectares on a single liter of kerosene" -Simpons Melis 04-02-2002, 07:44 PM There are way more cameros and mustangs than 3000GT's.I think even the base model of the 3000GT is still better than any base model mustang or camero (i wouldn't call a 3000GT "cheap lower end" considering its a $35,000 car and the vr-4 is over $40,000). The 3000GT brand new even the base model is worth twice what Mustangs and Cameros are v6 or v8s. I don't have to throw money into my car-I can hang with Mustangs GT's and other v8's just like yours. From 30 mph street race or more you'll be suprised at the SL. Whats sad is ford made a V8 that V6 can beat! Don't get me wrong I used to own a LS1 Trans Am modded with over 400hp so I m not completely against it;) But I have been able to race and hang with the best of them with my SL including a few LT1's and turbo eclipses. My 3000GT ...turbo no its not .....but we are talking about an 'SL' model with DOHC 5 spd and 222 plus hp and over 205 torque with minor mods, I have walked many v6 cameros and mustang's stock heck the only thing worth racing is THE V8'S! You may have seen many 3000GT sl's but have you raced them? You should check out www.3si.org for more information on the 3000GT-they are not to be underestimated ;) Btw-why did you get a convertible ??? More weight less hp?? melis- Tinseltown349 04-03-2002, 03:33 AM No, I bought convertible because I wanted the top to go down on hot, and steamy sunny days. :cool: Are you upset because of the overabundance of SL's messing up 3000GT name? :p Why did I get power door locks? Or leather seating? Or have them keep a CD player in it? Why do I need remote-entry? Because, it's a daily driver, not a race car. Although, I suppose it would seem more like the latter. :D Tinseltown349 04-03-2002, 03:41 AM Oh, and by the way. My 2000 Mustang GT convertible has roughly a curb weight in the vicinity of 3450lbs. While the 98 VR4, non convertible, had a curb weigh of 3810 lbs. 320-hp stock in those, and good for a 14.2 in the 1/4 with 3.83 gears was it? I don't know, but higher acceleration gear ratio than mine even. So. If you're beating mustangs and camaros, they best all be v6's in that sl of yours. :alien: If you're beating mustangs that are 8's, it's possible, but they have to be pre-99, when they had 225hp instead of 260 stock. Have a nice day. I'm not trying to bash, I like vr-4's, but, just stating some facts here since you're complaining about my convertible adding SOOO much weight. Tinseltown349 04-03-2002, 04:00 AM HEHE...one more for you...I was disturbed to think that you believe that a convertible robs you of hp....Tell me it ain't so! You did say, "More weight, less hp." Right? And for even another stab at you, if you want to compare coupes versus convertibles, C5 vettes with convertible actually have been capable of out-accelerating the hardtops. In 2000, the three Vettes offered (coupe, convert, and hardtop) the acceleration went in the following order from fastest to slowest..."Coupe, Convertible, Hardtop." And most specs I read up on 1/4 times, somehow, places a 95 3000GT VR-4 Spyder slightly ahead or at least equal to that of a 98 3000GT VR-4 in 1/4 times and 0-60. Mustangs don't work that way, but, just know it happens. ;) Tinseltown349 04-03-2002, 04:01 AM Phew! :hehehe: :badass: fade_to_black 04-04-2002, 12:48 AM Originally posted by Tinseltown349 HEHE...one more for you...I was disturbed to think that you believe that a convertible robs you of hp....Tell me it ain't so! You did say, "More weight, less hp." Right? And for even another stab at you, if you want to compare coupes versus convertibles, C5 vettes with convertible actually have been capable of out-accelerating the hardtops. In 2000, the three Vettes offered (coupe, convert, and hardtop) the acceleration went in the following order from fastest to slowest..."Coupe, Convertible, Hardtop." And most specs I read up on 1/4 times, somehow, places a 95 3000GT VR-4 Spyder slightly ahead or at least equal to that of a 98 3000GT VR-4 in 1/4 times and 0-60. Mustangs don't work that way, but, just know it happens. ;) Just to let you in on a little information...I could see why C5 verts can and do out accelerate the coupes...They don't have electric tops and therefore don't have the added weight of the motors, therefore they are lighter. That is the reason why the mustang verts aren't faster than the coupes. Just thought I would inform you of that. Tinseltown349 04-04-2002, 09:04 PM And I quote from an above post I made: "And most specs I read up on 1/4 times, somehow, places a 95 3000GT VR-4 Spyder slightly ahead or at least equal to that of a 98 3000GT VR-4 in 1/4 times and 0-60. Mustangs don't work that way, but, just know it happens. " Should I bold the Mustangs don't work that way for you? Cbass 04-04-2002, 11:07 PM Usually convertables are heavier and less rigid than coupes. Myself, I prefer the refined closed cockpit feel, while hammering through a corner at excessive speed. Tinseltown349 04-05-2002, 12:14 AM Dear lord, you've all taken my post and completely turned it around to make it seem like I've stated all convertibles are faster. I was only making a point that not every convertible is heavier than stock, and thus, can potentially show more respectable acceleration times. I'm sorry for any confusion. I did state though that this was not the case on Mustang's, because, yes, they have a mechanical top and not hand-operated. Sorry that everyone reads way too far into my posts... :( Cbass 04-05-2002, 05:49 PM I don't know who has been smoking what, and who has gotten into the glue, but a C5 convertable does 0-60 in 5.2 or so seconds. A C5 coupe does 0-60 in a shade under 5. A C5 hardtop does in in about 4.7 The mustang has got to be the sole example of a convertable accelerating faster than a coupe. I suspect this is probably due to tuning more than body structure. Tinseltown349 04-06-2002, 12:36 AM Ok, let's stop this silly nonsense right here and now. Nobody's reading every post in this forum obviously...hehe...i can tell because everyone's going on and on about their own stories about this convertible and that...mustangs aren't the story, because the convertibles ARE slower. C5's with convert have been capable of beating other c5's non-convert, but, again, this is based driver/driver in my theory, and they're not auto-top up/down...it's a hand-manual...let's get back to cars we hate...shall we? lol...got a new one...well, an old one, but based off a new one of an old one i saw...and it is as follows: PT Cruiser with blue neon front license plate, tuner stickers,and Coffee-can exhaust...woof...but, he was driving it like it was pumping out an extra 5-hp...:silly2: boingo82 04-06-2002, 03:44 AM Actually, I DID read every post in this forum.... Contrary to 100% of the people here, I kinda like PT Cruisers. But don't flame me for it. Cars I hate: Anything by Kia. Especially since they've started naming them so they rhyme with Nissans. I.E. Optima=Altima, Spectra=Sentra, etc. Many, many Fords. But not all. Seriously, can't they pick car names that aren't so easy to make fun of? F*ckus, Mustank, Expire, Exploder, Explosion, etc. Any car that has a mullet in it. Any car made so you can't point the air vents at your legs. (I live in a warm climate.) The Asstek. But then again, does anybody like this car? I've only seen 1 on the road, ever. The Camry. Why has every Camry driver I've ever met (except 2 on this forum) tried to run into me or cut me off?? Why??? The Toyota..oh, I can't remember the name but they only came in stanky colors like sea mist and desert rose. You know, their entry-level car. Not the Echo, though I hate that one too. Cars I like: Any car that has a standard clock on the dash or instrument panel. No, the radio doesn't count. Cbass 04-06-2002, 04:15 AM I hate PT Cruisers. I hate Azteks. In fact, I hate this whole "crossover" thing. For Christs sake, get a van! Get a sports car. Drive the sports car for fun, and to commute. Drive the van when you need to carry a lot of people, or a lot of cargo. It's not rocket science. I think the crossover trend is engineered with the sole purpose in mind of offending the automotive enthuasiast. People who like sports cars are offended by a crossover commercial flaunting the monstrosity as part sports car, part truck, all fun or something ridiculous like that. On the other hand, the people who like trucks are offended by the very same commercial, because they hate to see that thing called a truck. The wagon people are offended because suddenly, the whole automotive industry completely shuns the wagon, in favour of a abhorration like the Matrix. The van people just say, "Get a fucking van!" Excuse my language, but it had to be literal quote to get the point across. BTW, Fords rock. Ssom 04-09-2002, 05:49 AM OK I hate: Anything boy-racers like (Except Skyline and Civic) Anything where engineering took the back-seat Anything that doesn't provide an enjoyable drive Anything that comes out of America that wasn't designed before the fuel crisis Pontiac Aztec/Buick Rendezvous BMC cars after the Morris 1100 Anything with a Rotor (Except the JC Cosmo) Anything from Eastern Europe that wasn't designed by a big-brother (ie I like Skoda's because VW do most of the designing) Old FIAT's Cbass 04-09-2002, 04:24 PM Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi OK I hate: Anything boy-racers like (Except Skyline and Civic) Anything that comes out of America that wasn't designed before the fuel crisis Anything with a Rotor (Except the JC Cosmo) Old FIAT's How can you be against rice and like the Civic? It is the focal epitomy of rice! After both gas scares, great cars were still made. Pontiac was making big block Trans Ams(which were the fasted musclecars 12 second cars), In the 80s, Buick made the GN series. Ford made the SVO, and put a Windsor V8 in quite a few things. Chrysler... well, there's no excuse for Chrysler. The Cosmo has a 20B rotary. Triple rotor, good for 1000 hp with adequate porting and boost. The RX-7 has a 13B rotary. With same porting and boost, capable of 600hp or more. The only bad things about these motors, they burn oil, not the best fuel economy. The only thing I don't love about rotaries, they have a really high powerband. No low end torque. Ssom 04-09-2002, 04:45 PM While the Civic is the apitimy of rice, it REALLY does a great job as a daily driver, I know because most of my driving time is spent behind the wheel of my mums 2001 Civic hatch Cbass 04-11-2002, 01:01 AM Nah, a Porsche 968 makes a good daily driver. A civic makes a good... a good... I'll get back to you. :D banchi105 04-11-2002, 02:10 PM i love cars period but there are a few that ruffle my feathers any japanese car thats not stock or try's to look fast (other than the supra & the 3kgt) the aztek (whos idea was that?) the pt cruiser (0-60 when?) Anything ford because they are slow and very very unreliable (the gt-40 does look killer though) Esp. MUSTANGS & THE ESCAPE :finger: Tinseltown349 04-12-2002, 02:49 AM Slow and unreliable? Where do these come from? My mustang's fine at 35k miles, not a single prob to date...hopefully, luck will continue. And mine's fast, so...Maybe we shouldn't count mine, though, since it has too much invested. boingo82 04-12-2002, 08:42 PM Ho ho, they're made by Kia and sold under the Ford name. I.E. Ford Expire. A whopping 67 hp baby!! And no damn tachometer. How are you supposed to know when to shift when the engine sounds like bees at 1,000 rpm??? Cbass 04-12-2002, 11:08 PM Banchi, don't say bad things about Fords while you drive a Plymouth. I have a Ford 400 windsor smallblock. This is the most powerful small block I have ever seen. It has a Edelbrock 750 carb, DIY port and polish, and a high lift cam. This motor makes 450hp, and has been doing so for 150,000 miles without a hiccup. Ssom 04-21-2002, 04:20 AM Originally posted by boingo82 Ho ho, they're made by Kia and sold under the Ford name. I.E. Ford Expire. A whopping 67 hp baby!! And no damn tachometer. How are you supposed to know when to shift when the engine sounds like bees at 1,000 rpm??? You mean the Kia Pride/Ford Aspire twins?????? Damned awful cars Cbass 04-21-2002, 06:27 PM Like the Geo Metro, and the Dodge Colt? Ford doesn't have a monopoly on shitty econoboxes! MBTN 04-22-2002, 01:48 AM Kick his ass, C Bass! Hehe, Dumb and Dumber. :) Cbass 04-22-2002, 08:25 AM I love the name! My 400 Windsor SB is the most powerful stock SB I have ever seen. With the smog ripped off of course. Don't talk smack about Ford, plymouth boy The PT Cruiser. What the hell were they thinking? The Prowler. The near beer of hotrods. It looks like a hotrod, they promote it like a hotrod. It goes like an economy car! The Trabant. I don't need to say any more about the Trabant Any Lada. There are Russian cars which are not shit. This is not one of them Renault LeCar. Sweet Jesus! I don't think it's possible to make a smaller car! The Messerschmidt. Okay, so it is possible to make a smaller car! How did the company that made the best fighters in the world degrade itself to this? Damned the allies, and their humiliating impositions Pontiac Aztek. The only thing worse than the fact that they made these cars is the fact that people bought them! People walked into a showroom and said "I want to drive THAT home!" Any car that someone will refer to as a "bad ass awesomobile." what the sweet fuck. Sorry about my language, I just couldn't convey my disgust and hatred without profanity HillbilySailor 06-06-2002, 10:10 PM I'm probably going to date myself here. Anyone remember the Renault Le-Car? I wouldn't give that piece of crap to my worst enemy. The AMC Pacer ranks a close second. Any Chrysler product that has the word "K-Car" in it sucks too. Also any inport with a coffee can exhaust! lol Cbass 06-07-2002, 10:05 AM Yeah, but at least the Pacer was RWD and available with a 4+ liter engine... Of course, I could never hate any car as much as the Trabant. I really loath those cars. MBTN 06-07-2002, 06:19 PM Citroen 2CV!:o HillbilySailor 06-08-2002, 04:14 PM The Citroen! I forgot all about that one! lol I've seen a few of those on my trips overseas. You're right. They suck too! lol GPrince 06-08-2002, 06:57 PM thats only becase Porshes don't like looking at zo6 tail lights. Cbass 06-09-2002, 07:22 PM Yeah, which is why we pass them ::flipa: Citroen does make a good car, cheap too. The Xsara WRC kit car, it's pretty fast, and has unbelieveable handling. God I hate Trabants! http://www.cc.jyu.fi/~esakokki/trabant.jpg http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/germany/stories/view.berlin/story.trabant.cnn.jpg HATE HATE HATE HillbilySailor 06-09-2002, 11:15 PM I was wondering what a Trabant looked like. Thats one UGLY peice of shit! lol Almost makes me want to drive a Pacer if I had to pick between the two! lol GPrince 06-10-2002, 03:41 AM wheres the rest of it. Pastor got a Honda I had to leave church. Cbass 06-10-2002, 04:50 PM Yeah, they have a 2 stroke 2 cylinder motor that runs on Turpentine and Kerosene. I hate these cars more than you could imagine. HillbilySailor 06-10-2002, 05:52 PM Turpentine and Kerosene????? Holy shit! You can keep that peice of shit! lol By the way, maybe someone can help me out here. I would like to know how to post a picture in the box beside the message box. The box I'm talking about is the one that has the member name, type of car, where you live, ect. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Cbass 06-10-2002, 08:15 PM Yeah, what do you think about Pacers now? :) The pic is called your avatar. You can change it in your profile, under preferences I think. You have to upload one, and there is a maximum size... I don't remember what it is offhand, but I had to squeeze the Cerbera in mine. HillbilySailor 06-10-2002, 10:08 PM No doubt about it. If I had to pick between the two, I'd drive a Pacer with a smile on my face (although I'd HAVE to put a V-8 in it)! lol Thanks for the info on the avatar. Someone else helped me earlier. it's 100 pixels by 100 pixels. Mine barely fit too. :devil: Cbass 06-11-2002, 04:01 PM What about Messerschmidts? How low could BFW(BMW) fall... http://members.aol.com/metrocars/metnet/messer.gif HillbilySailor 06-11-2002, 05:15 PM :eek: Looks like an old model Volkswagen Beetle that was left in the dryer for too long! lol Also looks like a toy I would buy for my 3 year old daughter! lol How many of those abominations did BMW make? And let me guess, this picture was taken in a museum. I really wouldn't consider that car a piece of automotive history. Oddity maybe, but definately not history! lol Here's a question for you. If you had to pick between that toy and the Trabant, which would you pick? lol :sun: Ssom 07-19-2002, 07:40 AM If you have the June (?) 2001 issue of Top Gear (With the new and old MINI on the front) you will know about awful Eastern European cars (Exceot my favaourite car-of-the-moment teh Skoda Octavia RS :frog: ArtemisEntreriR34 07-20-2002, 08:39 PM Cars I hate are, Azteks, Pontiac Vibe( which is just a toyota matrix looking Aztek) and I also find most of the Benz's to be ugly. LIL_CHIMPEE91 07-22-2002, 07:17 PM i fuckin hate Camaros,mustangs,corvettes,and shit like that.o yeah i hate kias and hyundais but the worse of all GEOS.i freakin hate those things.:monkeypis GEOS,FORDS,CHEVY,KIAS,AND HYUNDAIS HillbilySailor 07-25-2002, 03:03 PM :o Chimpee must own a Honda. |Banchi1O5| 07-26-2002, 12:56 AM lol probably a civic type r boingo82 07-26-2002, 01:40 PM Originally posted by |Banchi1O5| lol probably a civic type r Wrong - a GT-R with a Zetec engine. Mete cool! GPrince 07-26-2002, 09:09 PM I would make my own car before I drove a Geramn or Jap car. I would tell you to shoot first. before I would take one. boingo82 07-26-2002, 09:53 PM Huh..well I guess you won't have to make your own 'cause I've never heard of a Geramn car...and Jap...is that a new make? :finger: :D |Banchi1O5| 07-26-2002, 10:06 PM i would shoot myself in the foot before id drive a honda! GPrince 07-27-2002, 12:22 AM Volkswagon means ugly car Ssom 07-27-2002, 01:59 AM Originally posted by GPrince Volkswagon means ugly car Actually it means peoples car................ More reliable than American cars..........Better looking than American cars...........Safer than (most)American cars..............Even a 1.4 litre Golf would eat a Neon, Cavalier or Escort alive.........Better to drive than American cars...........More practical than American cars......More ergonomically correct than American cars.....Need I go on???? :mad: :mad: GPrince 07-27-2002, 10:46 AM $250 for starter is practical? and did you say Dodge Neofff? but then front wheel drive can't impress me. Ssom 07-28-2002, 01:04 AM WHAAAATTTT???? $250 my ass, I can get one for NZ$50 from one of the many scrapped Mk 2 Golf's....... So yes it is practical Also what are the odds of Starters buggeringing up in a new VW??? ZERO for at least 6 or 7 years. I am guessing when you say that you would never drive a Jap car or German car that you are ruling out Supra, 911 Turbo, Skyline GTR, RX7, M3, M5, MINI Cooper S, MR2 Turbo, AMG Mercs and the JC Cosmo.......Too bad you are really missing out Come on name a domestic of recent better than any of those cars........Only the Viper and Corvette get close (But still fall short) Cbass 07-28-2002, 03:37 AM Yes, but in his mind, a "chevy" is inherently better than any of those cars... Keep in mind, an import of any kind can't compare in any way to his "chavuuh" GPrince 07-28-2002, 09:48 AM I guess I am gauging all front wheel drive baced on the experience I have had with Honda and Toyota. 2 transmissions, 3 water pumps, one starter. and yes the starter cost $250. but I guess if it has the name Honda stamped on it," it must be made of Gold", and even so at the time I liked the car. and oh did I mention the fact the thing would never stay in tune. the story is simalar with a front wheel drive Buick I drove for a while. and the Toyota Pickup ran fine just a gutless wonder. but then I really tried to do real things with like tow something. and I don't figure 8 mi per gallon is worth it. but I guess within the design parameters of the thing it worked as promised. but then it was rear wheel drive. I live in the moutainoust Northwest so it may be harder on things than what you are used to. and Yes I do drive Chevy half ton and it has given me no more problems than the toyota. but don't lack for ability. AND I just Guess I take Pride in the products made in the land of my birth. the Good ol US of A. Pride is a good thing. If your from Japan I can understand taking Pride in the Produts made there too. people say American Cars are crap. but only after we tryed to copy every one else. the cars we have stuck to the spirit of our automotive heritage, "are truly great cars." I wonder why we have turned from ourself. and acknowledge everything else. do we lothe our self so much? boingo82 07-30-2002, 01:57 PM Apparently you don't realize this, but about half the "imports" are now made in the good 'ol US of A. Cbass 08-05-2002, 06:14 AM It's the same as manufacturers. Every country makes good cars, and every country makes bad cars. You dislike the front drivers, I can agree there. I don't like front drive much at all, the only benefits it has are in bad weather, and an AWD vehicle works much better for that! Keep in mind, that although it is good to have pride in ones country, the US has never made as good cars as the Germans, and it's not likely they ever will. Not to take anything away from American cars, but the Germans make unbelievably good cars. So where in the NW are you from? I live in a nice coastal town in BC. GPrince 08-05-2002, 10:37 AM Well my close experience with German cars. is the Rabbit and Bug. the Bug is an interesting Concept. Simple in design however limited in capacity and ability, but for the time innovative. The Rabbit, a better overall designs. But still limited. Not to ruffle any feathers, this is my opinion. The Rabbit did not inspire me. I know someone who has had Mercedes and he liked them. he was particularly impressed with the fuel injuction system. I have no first hand knowledge of them. as far as where am I from. Ever hear of Moscow? Cbass 08-05-2002, 05:37 PM I can imagine how beetles and rabbits might jade you a little... Find out a little bit about the new BMW 5 and 7 series, or the MB SL500... the new SL500 is IMO the perfect car... it's got all sorts of fancy new gadgets, like self adjusting suspension, power folding hardtop, 3 different kinds of traction control... handles like a sports car, goes like a muscle car, and rides like a rolls royce... snoopafellajv 08-05-2002, 11:43 PM Minivans, i hate those things!!! GPrince 08-06-2002, 10:42 AM who don't hate mini vans? shhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! don't let any one hear. GPrince 08-06-2002, 11:31 AM All this data is derived from Computer Sims Power plant supercharged .8 l (yes I said point 8 L) 2 cycle radial 3 cylinder. making 1450 Hp at 11000 rpm and 725 FT/LB of torque at 10000 rpm and still brings in 450 FT/LB of torque at 2000 rpm with Direct cylinder Fuel injection, Fuel being H2 (if we are going to switch to hydrogen we need to capture the imagination of the people). And it has the Octane rating to handle 15 to 1 compression ratio. 2.4 inch stroke with 3 inch bore. The whole engine with supercharger is slightly larger than a coffee can, and would sit under the floorpan along with the 6 speed Lycoming Airshifted Transmission, with Auto and manual mode. some times it's just way to fun to shift. Clutch is Fluid, no disk. The Chassis mid mounted Power plant, AWD, body, Chassis, suspension and drivetrain, are all made of Carbon Graphite. 82 inch wheelbase Curbweight a little over 1300 lb. Quarter mile time just under 6 seconds and toping 235 miles per hour while still in 4th gear. Fuel economy I figure around 14 mi per gallon. Cbass 08-07-2002, 05:15 PM Sounds nice, but I think it would have to be a little bigger than a coffee can if it was a radial with a 2.4" stroke, especially one that has to handle 15:1 SC. That's 15:1 off boost static compression? I want to see one of those Audi 5 cylinders out of the S cars on hydrogen! It's 2.2 liters, makes 260ftlbs at 1950rpm, and peak power of 230hp at 5800 rpm, with a redline of 7000-8000, depending on application. That's on 92 octane... BMW recently had an older 7 series on the show car circuit, running on hydrogen. It was a really simple conversion, and it made quite a bit more power than the gas. Not only does have a higher octane rating, it also contains more energy. There's a good page that has info on a propane swap, and table with info about various fuel types... http://www.gmi.edu/~lpgvan/SAE-LPG.html hondasuck 08-11-2002, 10:40 PM here's a nice "cars i hate" post. we flipped a sentra today. going very fast on 595 in florida just before nob hill road when all of a sudden the stupid civic in front of uys slams on his brakes... not the worst yet.... swurve... swurve... ditch... FLIP! all three of us in the car were all OK but we were ready to chase down that dam civic and kill the dumbass driving. the meds said 5 more feet and we would all have been dead..., anyone know what it's like to breathe down death's neck by 5 freakin feet? well I DO! today was not my day to die. love you all and it's good to be alive! lifeiscars 08-13-2002, 12:16 PM i would hunt down that honda and fucking ram into the back of there car. especially if its a rental car, f uck up there car and then pay the deductible and be good. GPrince 08-13-2002, 12:28 PM what is it with people and small cars? not too long ago one pulled out in front of me while I was driving a loaded 2 ton truck. they pulled out only 35 feet in front of me. I could do nothing. and then they acted like thet did not see me. how do you miss a 2 ton truck? lifeiscars 08-13-2002, 12:52 PM you really can't miss a two ton, and normally in a small car you can hear it very well, even wit you music off, cuz they are so cheap. if you look in your mirror you really cant miss it. GPrince 08-13-2002, 06:28 PM I would rather know how to miss a cheap little car with 30,000 lbs. Cbass 08-14-2002, 05:06 PM If the Civic slammed on it's brakes, and you had to swerve, I would think you were following a little closely... Or was this in really bunched up traffic? So has anyone seen that commercial for the Midas(?) shop, the one where the guy brings in his Yugo for a tuneup? (yugo driver)"Wow, it's running great!"(looks over at tech in passenger sat) "Let's jump the bridge!" (tech)"But we're in a Yugo!" (guy tries to jump bridge that is out, dukes of hazard style, makes it 5 feet before dropping into creek) (tech shrugs shoulders)"Yugo...) GeneralTJI 11-21-2002, 02:55 AM focus. Both are FWD, both are commuter cars, both are reliable WHoa !!! HAHAHAHAH .. Fuckus reliable ? There are more pages of recalls on the focus than I can shake a stick at.. ! ... sad but true ... but we are talking about an 'SL' model with DOHC 5 spd and 222 plus hp and over 205 torque with minor mods, I have walked many v6 cameros and mustang's stock ROFL ! uh... My Tacoma 4x4 has never lost to a V6 Mustang / Camaro either.. some were mod'd. both at the Track and Street.. have videos too... I just wouldn't get too carried away about how amazing that 'SL' is... you slap a turbo on it, and I'm all over it being badass... know what I mean !? Anything ford because they are slow and very very unreliable Yea.. pretty much ! especially the reliability part .... Slow and unreliable? Where do these come from? My mustang's fine at 35k miles, not a single prob to date...hopefully, luck will continue. And mine's fast, so...Maybe we shouldn't count mine, though, since it has too much invested. .... ROFL ! 35k ? Is that a joke ? :apuke: ..... you need at least 150k before you can say anything about reliability... check the Consumer reviews, watch what you see on the side of the road.. talk to mechanics.. read the reviews... Ford is NOT know for being reliable or even close to it... ehhh I'm not gonna tell you Toyota, or Honda or whatever, is perfectly reliablie or whatever... but there is a difference... hopefully you never have trouble w/ your Stang.. but judging by the numbers... it could happen... .... As far as cars I hate: - V6 Mustang / Camaro - Most Fords, but not all - Asstek - VW BUG - n/a Eclipse - n/a Supra - n/a anything that was offered Turbo'd - Riced Econo Cars.... Thats all I can think of now... I am probably an asshole..... heh hondasuck 11-21-2002, 05:51 PM yeah, traffic was pea soup. anyway that was a long time ago. and "lifeiscars" i would like to chake your hand. LOL:D , so here's my "cars i hate" anything honda. especially civics with altezzas and rims, and nothing more. Chris V 01-07-2003, 06:19 PM Love how generally STUPID the anti-whatever posts are. I can tell how many clueless kids and inbred retards are posting, including the moron who started this thread. So tell, me, does it physically hurt to have your mind closed that tightly? It should. I've never understood why people actually LIKE to be closed minded and hateful. Go ahead. Insult me with your childish retorts if it makes you feel better. Try to ignore the meaning of my words, so you don't have to actually think. Purpura Delujo 03-12-2003, 01:57 AM Hyundais, all. Kias, all. Protons, all. Ford, Focus, Ka & the new Mustang (Older ones were the bomb) Holden, all but VL Calais, VS SS & Brock Editions of all Commodores & LH, LX, SLR model Toranas, all the rest are :apuke: Chevy, Not many at all. I love Camaros and Silverados! Especially Impalas! Ferrari, hate the Enzo, ugly heap of expensive crap. Any rice deserves to get burnt! I think thats all, oh yeah Pontiac Aztek. Jimster 03-12-2003, 11:37 PM Originally posted by Lowryda Ferrari, hate the Enzo, ugly heap of expensive crap. \ :eek::eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT YOUNG MAN!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: OTF351 03-13-2003, 01:16 AM I hate hyundais excels...............the ones with stupid wings and stickers and empty milo tins for muffler tips,they suck and the drivers are freeken loonies.I really hate the one i have to drive but whats worse is sometimes i win some races if i were the people that just got iced by a 1.5 scoupe i would go home and shoot myself.:) blazed on haze :\ 03-13-2003, 01:24 AM i hate -hyunday's of all sorts. there cars r rubbish -shitsubishi lancers -toyota echo's -those lil jap vans that r smaller than rx-7's. rx-7's r wicked tho :) ta hell with these shitboxes! :flipa: OTF351 03-13-2003, 01:55 AM oh and i hate non turbo silvyas why would any body want to have four banger without a turbo in a car as big as folden bomberdore........:bloated: Chris V 03-13-2003, 06:43 AM Originally posted by GeneralTJI quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- focus. Both are FWD, both are commuter cars, both are reliable -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHoa !!! HAHAHAHAH .. Fuckus reliable ? There are more pages of recalls on the focus than I can shake a stick at.. ! ... sad but true ... Recalls don't equate with reliability. Get this, one of the recalls was for a bad A-pillar trim clip! Another was for a Sony subwoofer defect! ALL the recalls were for the first 2 year models, with one being for the SVT Focus (that ONLY affected the first 500 cars, and was fixed before most of them had even been bought!). Recalls mean that the manufacturer found something that MIGHT be a problem and is fixing it. For free. In the old days, these problems might simply be engineered differently in the next revision of the car, and those with older versions had to either suffer or get a newer version. (or pay to update to the newer version, kind of like the chain tensioner and head stud upgrades in Porsche 911s). Many manufacturers simply refuse to admit their cars have problems and either fix them quietly if one comes in for regular service, or ignores it completely. Nissan and Honda are examples of the fpormer, while Mitsubishi and VW are examples of the latter. I'd rather see a manufactuer that FIXES potential problems that have been identified, rather than ignore REAL poroblems that exist in actual customer cars!!!! I'm really tired of this ignorant carping about recalls by people that simply have no clue! quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anything ford because they are slow and very very unreliable -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yea.. pretty much ! especially the reliability part .... Complete BS. If you believe that, I have some lovely waterfront property to sell you in Florida... I've bought a few new Fords. Completely reliable. In fact, they only saw the inside of a service bay on regularly scheduled maintenance intervals. .... ROFL ! 35k ? Is that a joke ? :apuke: ..... you need at least 150k before you can say anything about reliability... check the Consumer reviews, watch what you see on the side of the road.. talk to mechanics.. read the reviews... Ford is NOT know for being reliable or even close to it... ehhh Actually, you're quite wrong there. Major indicatoors of quality and reliability show Ford being pretty high (higher than VW, Audi , Subaru, and on par with Toyota. You can look it up). And MOST people judge reliability on the under 50k mark, as most people trade every three-4 years. After that, how you maintain and drive a car has more to do with it's reliability than manufacturer. But all cars can break, regardless of where they come from. If cars didn't break, then how come auto service is such a HUGE business? And why are there shops dedicated to imports and even specific brands? Please, open your eyes. I'm not gonna tell you Toyota, or Honda or whatever, is perfectly reliablie or whatever... but there is a difference... hopefully you never have trouble w/ your Stang.. but judging by the numbers... it could happen... Judging by the fact that there are Honda and Toyota repair specialist shops in large numnbers, I'd say "judging by the numbers, it could happen" applies equally to YOU. .... As far as cars I hate: - V6 Mustang / Camaro - Most Fords, but not all - Asstek - VW BUG - n/a Eclipse - n/a Supra - n/a anything that was offered Turbo'd - Riced Econo Cars.... Thats all I can think of now... I am probably an asshole..... heh Sometimes I wonder why being a closed minded asshole is such a desireable goal for some of you. grandprix92 03-20-2003, 09:12 AM i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!! Jimster 03-22-2003, 10:41 PM Originally posted by grandprix92 i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!! What a crock of shit- so you hate any car not from the United States, Ferrar or Lamborghini???? Why??? Pick 03-23-2003, 04:47 AM Originally posted by grandprix92 i just cant stand any import (minus those Ferraris and Lambos) or any car with a damn fart can on them!!!! god i hate them. they sound like shit and look worse!!!! You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you? I guess you don't like reliability. 2strokebloke 03-25-2003, 06:37 PM this is such a lame thread.:rolleyes: grandprix92 03-26-2003, 11:41 AM Originally posted by Pick You're kind of a dumbass, aren't you? I guess you don't like reliability. first off, i believe in my american cars. besides, when it comes to all out muscle, america ownes you foo! and as far as a dumbass, im not one. first off, who here really knows the origonal color of the Viper? how about the Corvette? ad as far as reliability, america has economy cars too. it's just most of us are smart enough not to put an annoying exaust systems on a car our mom's used to drive us to school in and call it performance. Pick 03-26-2003, 11:59 AM Originally posted by grandprix92 first off, i believe in my american cars. besides, when it comes to all out muscle, america ownes you foo! and as far as a dumbass, im not one. first off, who here really knows the origonal color of the Viper? how about the Corvette? ad as far as reliability, america has economy cars too. it's just most of us are smart enough not to put an annoying exaust systems on a car our mom's used to drive us to school in and call it performance. The original Viper color was red. And the original Corvette color was white, I believe. As far as muscle, I think that Japan ,while it does have virtually no high output V-8's, has some badass 6 cylinders(Supra, Skyline GTR,etc). I love domestics. I have nothing against them, but I hev found that imports are generally cheaper and more reliable for a price. grandprix92 03-26-2003, 12:18 PM ok. you know your stuff. just wanted to test that. and i dont dispise imports. i dont like them because they rival ours after all these aftermarket tune-ups and shit. id rather buy from K&N and Borla. both for intake and exaust. and i agree about the badass 6 cylinders. but i hope you see my point about highoutput V-8s. america is king at those. Pick 03-26-2003, 12:32 PM Originally posted by grandprix92 ok. you know your stuff. just wanted to test that. and i dont dispise imports. i dont like them because they rival ours after all these aftermarket tune-ups and shit. id rather buy from K&N and Borla. both for intake and exaust. and i agree about the badass 6 cylinders. but i hope you see my point about highoutput V-8s. america is king at those. Agreed. Nothing like a 427 wide open throttle with Edelbrock headers and carb. grandprix92 03-28-2003, 12:29 PM hell ya! not to mention that new 572 big block V-8 Chevy just came out with. its a crate engine though. little harder to build! after i find a car that can hold one, im buyin it!!!! cant wait. the real bad part, they cost about 7K. fatboys57 04-07-2003, 10:31 PM hey i like cars all cars dosent matter if its fast and not a pos its cool in my book but donk get me wrong i were my chevy bow tie proud the blue oval guys should hang there head to low either america has been putting out cars since the late 60s that still dominate at the track that has to speak for its self every one talk about is ill turbo my import and it will beat u but what happend if i put a turbo on my ride who will win then i was watching speed vision guy got a 2001 vett i belive (not a Zo6) and dropped a twin turbo in it and that car was f ing fast if u want 1/4 mile racing u go old school and u wont have a lot to fear around a track even though the viper and zo6 are strong there just not up to meclerian f1 standards or alot of other imports all about 575 zz big block crate drop a super charger on that put it in a 72 vega powerful auto trany bad ass rear end o yea a wheely bar and go out to the track and eat those turbo suns of bitchs up all day long big bloc power Jimster 04-08-2003, 03:19 AM Originally posted by fatboys57 hey i like cars all cars dosent matter if its fast and not a pos its cool in my book but donk get me wrong i were my chevy bow tie proud the blue oval guys should hang there head to low either america has been putting out cars since the late 60s that still dominate at the track that has to speak for its self every one talk about is ill turbo my import and it will beat u but what happend if i put a turbo on my ride who will win then i was watching speed vision guy got a 2001 vett i belive (not a Zo6) and dropped a twin turbo in it and that car was f ing fast if u want 1/4 mile racing u go old school and u wont have a lot to fear around a track even though the viper and zo6 are strong there just not up to meclerian f1 standards or alot of other imports all about 575 zz big block crate drop a super charger on that put it in a 72 vega powerful auto trany bad ass rear end o yea a wheely bar and go out to the track and eat those turbo suns of bitchs up all day long big bloc power That didn't make a lick of sense- and you seem the typical "Domestic" owner who thinks "Imports" are all the same cars- wrong- "Imports" vary greatly- there are billions of different types............ YogsVR4 04-08-2003, 01:15 PM Originally posted by Jimster "Imports" vary greatly- there are billions of different types............ I hate it when every post has an exaggeration. :bloated: :finger: boingo82 04-08-2003, 07:24 PM Originally posted by YogsVR4 I hate it when every post has an exaggeration. :bloated: :finger: The dumber part is that no one can define "import" any more, as half the "domestics" are manufactured in Canada and Mexico, whereas a lot of Honda, Nissan, and Toyota's stuff is designed and manufactured HERE. :rolleyes: Jimster 04-08-2003, 11:52 PM Originally posted by YogsVR4 I hate it when every post has an exaggeration. :bloated: :finger: Quityerbitchin :finger: But sometimes we must exagerate to make our point known ;) james968 04-13-2003, 07:35 AM This isn't so much because of the looks, but because of my first car (a paid hand me down) was an Escort and it sucked. (Early 80's) I'd go into the Ford dealership and the service writer would start filling out the paperwork for service. Without asking me from memory no computers or looking up anything, "Do you still live at ........", that was how often I was at the dealership for service. Anyway about 10 years ago I was in the new car market, I stopped in a Ford dealership and looked at the current (at the time) Escort I took it for a test drive, but I just couldn't feel comfortable in the thing. Anyway my car's choices have since moved up in the world Loochy88 10-21-2003, 10:26 PM this is such a lame thread.:rolleyes: I was thinking the same thing... especially that guy who said he hated v6 camaro's nismo4banger 10-22-2003, 02:44 PM 2strokebloke is right. This thread is lame. I'm leaving and I'm not looking back. J_Swigz 10-22-2003, 08:42 PM 2strokebloke is right. This thread is lame. I'm leaving and I'm not looking back. This thread is also 6 months old, and the n00b above neglected to check the date. I really wish people would read the date of the last post. Loochy88 10-24-2003, 07:24 PM This thread is also 6 months old, and the n00b above neglected to check the date. I really wish people would read the date of the last post. haha, ive never been called a noob b4. wow you sure pwn3d me. YukiHime 12-06-2003, 11:15 PM Well, if I'm trying to reply the topic, then I would pick 96 Dodge Avenger(Avanger?) Because it had an accident with my best friend and the driver was the one who is at fault but was yelling to my friend... that avanger(avenger?)almost killed her(My best friend)... Iman de las chicas 01-19-2004, 02:14 AM Attitude Problems MBTN 01-19-2004, 11:09 PM This thread is BEYOND old. I'd know I started it WAYYY BACK. I'm still getting e-mails telling me about replies.... Jimster 01-21-2004, 06:07 AM Sice MBTN doesn't like his thread being posted in, I'll start a new one :) vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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