what would u prefer

lancer evo-|-BMW 325/330-|-BMW M3

what would u rather want. or think is better in any way at all

Question becomes, which Evo and which M3?

If it's an Evo III vs. E46 M3...then there's no contest IMHO, it goes to the M3.

But if we are talking Evo VI RS vs. E36 M3...then I take the Evo VI RS.

and if it's about personal preference, then I'd take an EVO V over any other and i'd be wnting a M3 CS (uk model - manual please) over that if it were up to me.

I'll assume he's talking about the newest version of each...in which case, I'll take an Evo 9 GSR or MR, please :)

I'll assume he's talking about the newest version of each...in which case, I'll take an Evo 9 GSR or MR, please :)

Yeah, I would bet he is comparing the latest generation of each. If that is the case I'll take the Evo as well.

why the evo? and wats better about the m3 uk model

Well, The Evo MR (euro) is as fast around a track as the Lambo Mucielago. As Top Gear showed. But I'd take the euro only M3 CSL. I just like it more.

why the evo? and wats better about the m3 uk model

1. It's about twenty grand cheaper.
2. It's got more torque at a lower RPM range, and the stock turbo is capable of a lot more.
3. Firmer suspension tuning - it's a sports car, not a luxury-sports car.
4. All-wheel-drive. :)

I'd take any version of the E46 M3, whether it be M3, M3 CS, or M3 CSL over any Evo.

I'd take any version of the E46 M3, whether it be M3, M3 CS, or M3 CSL over any Evo.

Absolutely. I would rather have an E46 M3 ten fold over any Evo. It's more expensive than an Evo, but that's because it's a much much nicer car. Not everything has to do with lap time when we're talking about which car we'd rather own. Aside from that, I don't believe the Evo's sold here in America are as fast as the M3 anyway. We don't have the FQ and I'm not sure about the MR or whatever it is.

I wouldn't even want an FQ. It looks like it was designed by a 15 year old comic-book fan. As do all evo's for that matter.

Besides, where's the fun in driving a computer? Don't fool yourself into thinking you're a good driver in one of those.

Absolutely. I would rather have an E46 M3 ten fold over any Evo. It's more expensive than an Evo, but that's because it's a much much nicer car. Not everything has to do with lap time when we're talking about which car we'd rather own. Aside from that, I don't believe the Evo's sold here in America are as fast as the M3 anyway. We don't have the FQ and I'm not sure about the MR or whatever it is.

It's not about lap time, it's about having fun. To me, loads of torque, a high-psi turbocharged engine, and pure performance-oriented suspension tuning and interior design is tons of fun. I don't need, or want, luxury features, a high-class interior, or a supple ride, I want the closest thing to a street-legal race car I can get. And that's where the M3 will never be able to beat the Evo.

I wouldn't even want an FQ. It looks like it was designed by a 15 year old comic-book fan. As do all evo's for that matter.

Besides, where's the fun in driving a computer? Don't fool yourself into thinking you're a good driver in one of those.

It looks bad ass is how it looks. And I can think of plenty of "sports cars" that are far more computerized than the Evo is; the USDM model doesn't even have Active Yaw Control, last I checked.

Why am I defending the Evo anyways? I'm an Impreza owner. I guess the Mitsubishi guys are all busy replacing their transmissions, so I have to fill in for them :(

I want the closest thing to a street-legal race car I can get.

caterham, ariel, radical, westfield etc etc....

on the other end of the scale:
mosler, saleen.....

i'm not entirely convinced that just because the WRC prepped cars are sucessful and based on the road car, that it makes the road cars automatically, close to being a road legal race car, not to mention that the most succesful race aren that those cars feature in (rally) doesn't equate much to real world roads anyway.

then again, i'm not a big fan of the whole road legal race car tag as in most cases it's just the usual sound-bite that is fed to kids who lap it all up.

Actually, the rally races on tarmac are as close as you'll get to authentic racing on real-world roads except, perhaps, tarmac hill climbs. And most hill-climbs hook in with a rally as a stage.

Before 1998 the road going Evos and WRXs and such were much closer to the race cars than they are now. The homologation rules were changed then and the road-going versions started getting bigger, more powerfull (2.5L engines in the STIs for instance) and less harsh due to less stiff chasis and suspension components.

Heck, before 1998 all homologated rally cars had the anti-lag misfire exhaust sytems equipped from the factory except for the computer to run it. That, and some other things, made them impossible to get past American emmissions laws and that's why we didn't get Evos or WRXs until after the 1998 rule change... and never got those freakin hawt ST205 Celica AllTracs (http://www.tein.co.jp/img/r0272656789.jpg) either.

then i stand corrected.
one thing though that might say something about my stance on this,
as said by a police friend of mine:
driving a impreza doesn't make you colin mcrae.

caterham, ariel, radical, westfield etc etc....

on the other end of the scale:
mosler, saleen.....

i'm not entirely convinced that just because the WRC prepped cars are sucessful and based on the road car, that it makes the road cars automatically, close to being a road legal race car, not to mention that the most succesful race aren that those cars feature in (rally) doesn't equate much to real world roads anyway.

then again, i'm not a big fan of the whole road legal race car tag as in most cases it's just the usual sound-bite that is fed to kids who lap it all up.

My point is that it's still closer than an M3. At the end of the day, the Evo is still a watered-down WRC car, whereas the M3 is a powered-up luxury car.

My point is that it's still closer than an M3. At the end of the day, the Evo is still a watered-down WRC car, whereas the M3 is a powered-up luxury car.

BS. I hate this, "the M3 is just a 3-Series, the SRT4 is a Neon, the Z06 is just a Corvette" crap. The M3 is about as close to the 330Ci as the Evo is to the Lancer. You could also say the M3 is a watered down M3 GTR.

As a daily driver, the Evo is not a good car at all. Its interior is probably one of the worst available on any car made today. The transmission is pathetically weak (cost cutting). The warranty is a joke, especially if you modify it. Everything about the car screams cheap except the engine. For tuning, the Evo is probably the better car. The M3 runs pretty high compression and you never see turbo ones. For about $40,000 you could have an Evo that would crush stock M3s, but the more money you put into the modifying it the worse and worse the car will be to drive on a daily basis.

The M3 is the best available balance of a sports car and a luxury car. Its more then sporty enough to be tons of fun to drive, yet its smooth enough and luxurious enough to be no problem at all day to day. It might be just me, but I love the high revving rwd nature of the M3. The Evo is a terrible car at everything but racing, while the M3 is good at just about everything.

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I'd get an Evo like diz boe, dat'd pull da honeyz real hardcore in da hood auwhuhuhuuhuhuhuhu

As you can see I have a strong dislike of Evos after seeing FAR too many of them end up like that. With the later models, it's like Mitsubishi has already done the work for them, basically looks like something a 15 year old Japanese schoolboy drew in between watching anime porn.

The M3 just oozes class, while at the same time being faster than the Evo and a much better drive (AWD and a whole heap of computerised stuff are bullshit in a "drivers car") while the BMW is also miles better built and miles more reliable.

BS. I hate this, "the M3 is just a 3-Series, the SRT4 is a Neon, the Z06 is just a Corvette" crap. The M3 is about as close to the 330Ci as the Evo is to the Lancer. You could also say the M3 is a watered down M3 GTR.

I know what you mean, I've been saying that for years. Still, hardly anybody listens. :headshake

For what it's worth, I NEVER said that the M3 is just a 3-Series, I said that it's still a luxury car at heart. And I don't like the "2 Fast 2 Furious" bullshit that people do with Evos anymore than you do, but honestly, it's not like people don't do stupid shit to BMWs either; I've seen more than a few M3s with 20-inch chrome rims, oversized rear spoilers, and "attention-getter" exhausts. And you're lying if you tell me that no one has ever bought a BMW to try and impress girls, or impress their friends. For every car, there are going to be dumbasses who buy them for dumbass reasons, especially cars like the Evo and the M3.

You can argue all day that the M3 is a more complete package, that it's better built, that it's a better daily driver, and I WON'T ARGUE WITH THAT. But I don't want a complete package; I want a Japanese sports car with aggressive looks, racing heritage, and high bang-for-buck, and that's what the Evo has to offer over the M3.

To each his own, I guess.

The BMW M3 has a very big racing heritage, about as much as the Evo. The Evos racing heritage was being spanked by Subaru, having a few good years with Tommi Makkinen dominating and then getting spanked by Peugeot and Citroen. The M3's heritage is in touring cars and early DTM.

The BMW can't offer Japanese sportscarness, for very obvious reasons, but it's narrow minded to single out cars because of thier nationality, simple as that.

Tbh I think the BMWs bang for buck is only a tad below the Evo, but it easily makes up for it by bringing more than just bang into the equation, if you wanted bang for buck, you'd get an Atom, simple as that.

The BMW M3 has a very big racing heritage, about as much as the Evo. The Evos racing heritage was being spanked by Subaru, having a few good years with Tommi Makkinen dominating and then getting spanked by Peugeot and Citroen. The M3's heritage is in touring cars and early DTM.

The BMW can't offer Japanese sportscarness, for very obvious reasons, but it's narrow minded to single out cars because of thier nationality, simple as that.

Tbh I think the BMWs bang for buck is only a tad below the Evo, but it easily makes up for it by bringing more than just bang into the equation, if you wanted bang for buck, you'd get an Atom, simple as that.

Call me narrow-minded if you want - I've been called worse - but it's important to me that I own a Japanese sports car. Aside from that, I'll admit that the M3 is a great car, and I honestly would rather spend thirty grand on a used E46 M3 than a new Evo 9 GSR, but I've just gotta stay Japanese. Call me stupid, biased, and a poser all you want, but it's just who I am.