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Very fast, less than 10k?


ImportBuilder
05-21-2006, 11:12 AM
Hi, I'm looking for a car that will run close to SRT-4's and those types...For less than 10 grand. I was thinking about an early-mid 90's Integra with a B20 VTEC swap, turbo, and built bottom end. The 10k must include all performance upgrades. I can do the work myself. Engine swaps are an option, but it has to be pretty bolt-in. Any ideas guys?

JLad10687
05-21-2006, 11:45 AM
5.0

LoJo
05-21-2006, 05:47 PM
yea ur not gonna find an integra with a b20 in it for less than 10k plus the better option would be to buy the integra and put in an h22 swap. there pretty cheap with the engine costing only about 2 grand and you can find a nice integra for about 7 so if your serious about it i would look into it. Other than that your not gonna find an import for less than 10 grand that will compete with the SRT-4 you'd have to go for a mustang or a camaro

ImportBuilder
05-21-2006, 07:18 PM
I'm in Arizona, my zip is 85258.
I found a 93 Integra with a B20 VTEC for 3500. Lowered, 17 in. rims and Kumho Ecsta tires. Would the H22 be faster than the B20 VTEC? Is the H22 VTEC? If not, can I put a B series VTEC head on the H22 and have an H22 VTEC?

MetalHeadZaid
05-21-2006, 07:33 PM
f that man, pick up a 240sx for less then 1000 and use the 9k for all the good stuff.

ImportBuilder
05-21-2006, 08:52 PM
gl with that fantasy. The only sub-$1000 car I'd find wouldn't be drivable, even if every part was replaced.

LoJo
05-21-2006, 09:07 PM
yes the h22 is vtec it is the honda prelude engine its a 2.2 L so its a lil bigger than the 2.0 L b20 here is a website where you can check out all honda engines just scroll through the pages you'll find something

http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000search.cgi?what=category&keyword=JDM%20USDM%20Engines

ImportBuilder
05-21-2006, 11:40 PM
I've been doing some research, and H22 Tegs run 12's all day on slicks and built motors.
For around $8500, I could do the following:
DA Integra
H22A
Cold Air Intake, Throttle Body, Manifold
Fuel Rail/Press. Reg.
Big Brake Kit
Springs/Shocks
Exhaust
Cam Gears

Personally, I think this could run high 13's. Am I anywhwere near right?

curtis73
05-22-2006, 04:12 AM
I have a 5100-lb car that blows away C4 vettes. Purchase price $1800, total investment $4000. What you're looking at doing is very easy with V8 iron.

But it sounds like you're into the imports. How about a last generation 300Z, 240 with goodies, or for that matter, an E36 BMW with parts?

ImportBuilder
05-22-2006, 09:30 AM
What's your gas mileage like, Curtis? That's the #1 reason I'm looking at imports. If I could get decent gas mileage with a V8, I'd go for a Fox Body.

LoJo
05-22-2006, 01:56 PM
ok as far as the 1/4 mile times i'm not too sure those are some nice upgrades tho with the h22 i know its a very affordable swap that i looked into myself with my 91 teg.


but this is a fact V8 engine = bad gas mileage i have never seen someone drive around a mustang or camaro or even an old muscle car for that matter and brag about the gas mileage. I am not knocking them however b/c i kno myself if i needed to make an 11 second car i would have to stick with that big V8 power b/c the torque is unbeatable

JLad10687
05-22-2006, 09:37 PM
Why dont you just buy a capable stock engine(not a stock honda engine) and turbo it. Get a Maxima with the Nissa VQ series engine. Slap a turbo on there, you spend 6 on the car, 2 on the turbo, and you still have money for all the other mods. And you still get 20mpg.

LoJo
05-23-2006, 12:56 PM
b/c part of owning a fast car is making it look nice. and i'm not gonna make fun of maximas but i'm not really a big fan. and plus u can't just slap a turbo on an engine unless u want to run about 5 psi and plus y put money into a car that u d'nt like to start off with.

LoJo
05-23-2006, 12:56 PM
b/c part of owning a fast car is making it look nice. and i'm not gonna make fun of maximas but i'm not really a big fan. and plus u can't just slap a turbo on an engine unless u want to run about 5 psi and plus y put money into a car that u d'nt like to start off with.

nismo_power
05-23-2006, 01:17 PM
I've been doing some research, and H22 Tegs run 12's all day on slicks and built motors.
For around $8500, I could do the following:
DA Integra
H22A
Cold Air Intake, Throttle Body, Manifold
Fuel Rail/Press. Reg.
Big Brake Kit
Springs/Shocks
Exhaust
Cam Gears

Personally, I think this could run high 13's. Am I anywhwere near right?


didnt do too much research. a CRX with a b16 swap and minor bolt ons runs 12's all day. it doesnt take that much. my buddy wayne has 10k into the motor of his crx (b20vtec) and has 280whp all motor. runs low 10s consistantly.

JLad10687
05-23-2006, 08:51 PM
b/c part of owning a fast car is making it look nice. and i'm not gonna make fun of maximas but i'm not really a big fan. and plus u can't just slap a turbo on an engine unless u want to run about 5 psi and plus y put money into a car that u d'nt like to start off with.

You could just say you dont like the looks but dont say that engines internals can only take 5psi. The VQ is the same engine in the 300ZX just minus the turbo. You could def run much more then 5 psi.

LoJo
05-23-2006, 10:20 PM
ok yes i apologize for the psi estimation i don't much about nissan engines so i shouldn't have prejudged but i was in the same position that importbuilder was in and the main reason i ruled out maxima is b/c when i think of a car running low 1/4 times a maxima doesn't really come to mind

As far as the crx idea i think that is also an excellent choice there cheap cars to begin with( although there probably not gonna be in too great of condition) but they are light as hell. i believe there only about 2100 pounds i have a friend with a crx modded the shit out of it and is at about 400whp its rediculous.plus its a honda so you can throw just about any of the b series or even an h22 in there and it will fly

JLad10687
05-24-2006, 04:01 PM
ok yes i apologize for the psi estimation i don't much about nissan engines so i shouldn't have prejudged but i was in the same position that importbuilder was in and the main reason i ruled out maxima is b/c when i think of a car running low 1/4 times a maxima doesn't really come to mind

As far as the crx idea i think that is also an excellent choice there cheap cars to begin with( although there probably not gonna be in too great of condition) but they are light as hell. i believe there only about 2100 pounds i have a friend with a crx modded the shit out of it and is at about 400whp its rediculous.plus its a honda so you can throw just about any of the b series or even an h22 in there and it will fly

Its cool...I have to defend the Max when I can, it was my first car haha. If I were going to own a honda, after the S2000 I'd want a CRX. My only problem with them is that you probably have more room in a motocycle. I'll stay with what I know though and recommend a VW. You may be able to get a nice 1.8T GTI which has a huge aftermarket. What about a Toyota MR2? You can find one of them cheap and they have a decent aftermarket. And, theres someone on AF that runs 26(i think) PSI on stock MR2 internals and that way you're getting the advantages or RWD.

LoJo
05-24-2006, 05:54 PM
thats a good arguement i have heard a lot of good reviews with the older MR2's i actually looked into them myself but i don't kno about around you but around me there really hard to find and another thing if they haven't been mantained properly they can cause a lot of trouble

and you are right about the room in the crx except my friend had most of his car gutted and customized so it wasn't too bad. :biggrin2: but your talkin about major bucks

mike@af
05-24-2006, 06:37 PM
Why Honda? Why FWD?

I'd definately pickup something rear wheel drive, with a bigger engine. If you're looking to run fast on the strip look at the old Datsun Z-Series and swap in a Chevy 350 Crate motor. Its a common swap. $1500 on the car, $3000 on the crate motor, and then you can get a tranny out of a junkyard. So you still have anywhere from $4000-$5000 left. I've seen those Z's with Chevy 350's run 9's on the quarter.

Look at Camaro's too or the old 5.0 Mustangs. V8's are capable of tremendous power without a lot of work, or money. If you dont like american you could look at BMW's, and Lexus SC300's. Those have 6 cylinders, and are capable of a done of power. If you're worried about gas mileage then you need two cars, one as a daily driver, and one as race vehicle. Gas mileage will be affected greatly.

JLad10687
05-24-2006, 08:17 PM
To Lojo: Any car will be major problems if not properly maintained, youd be better of taking that chance with a Toyota then alot of other cars. And yes, they are pretty rare.

To GTMike: He is saying that gas mileage is a concern and with that heavy ass 350 wouldnt that kill the weight distribution? IDK about you but if I have a Z, I want to be able to carve some turns. However, that is a good suggestion because even the stock motors are capable of power. I also like the Lexus SC suggestion. They can be pretty quick.

LoJo
05-24-2006, 08:55 PM
yea GTMike thts why we were on that topic in the first place he wanted something that was good on gas and since his name was importbuilder i was assuming that he wanted an import. i never said it had to be a honda thats just what i've always been around and its what i know. i don't have anything against american cars my friend actually has a worked up 99 GT with about 400 hp and i love it

mike@af
05-25-2006, 11:38 AM
To GTMike: He is saying that gas mileage is a concern and with that heavy ass 350 wouldnt that kill the weight distribution? IDK about you but if I have a Z, I want to be able to carve some turns.

From what I've read, he seems to be more interested in drag racing, not road racing. The way the cars are built are two entirely different things. Cars for the strip usually have a beefed up motor that can easily overcome the weight of the vehicle. Usually an iron block, with a ton of mods on the engine, and not much done anywhere else. With that said, they usually handle poorly.

Now if you're looking for road racer, the car needs to be well balanced as you said. For that I would choose a BMW 325iS engine mods, and focus on suspension. My buddy has a 95 325 with Moton suspension, port and polish, decked head, M3 Cams, new ignition, intake, and exhaust. The most expensive modification was the suspension buy a few grand. Though the engine doesnt put out huge numbers on the dyno, the car can handle amazingly well at 135MPH with no problems. You feel glued to the road.

Another great car for road racing would be an 86+ Porsche 944 Turbo. The transmission is in the rear which makes for a perfect balance. The motors have a lot of parts available for them. Plus the motors can handle some boost with out major modifications. Once again, I'd go with the Moton suspension for impressive handling.

If you want to be competitive you have to pick a certain area you want to be competitive in. You cant expect to run 8's on the strip, and win races at the track, while getting good gas mileage. Focus on one aspect, and build the car for that. If you want something that will tear up the strip, focus on your motor. If you want something that will sling you around the corners, focus on suspension and some high end power. If you want good gas mileage drive a Prius.

JLad10687
05-25-2006, 02:31 PM
From what I've read, he seems to be more interested in drag racing, not road racing. The way the cars are built are two entirely different things. Cars for the strip usually have a beefed up motor that can easily overcome the weight of the vehicle. Usually an iron block, with a ton of mods on the engine, and not much done anywhere else. With that said, they usually handle poorly.

Now if you're looking for road racer, the car needs to be well balanced as you said. For that I would choose a BMW 325iS engine mods, and focus on suspension. My buddy has a 95 325 with Moton suspension, port and polish, decked head, M3 Cams, new ignition, intake, and exhaust. The most expensive modification was the suspension buy a few grand. Though the engine doesnt put out huge numbers on the dyno, the car can handle amazingly well at 135MPH with no problems. You feel glued to the road.

Another great car for road racing would be an 86+ Porsche 944 Turbo. The transmission is in the rear which makes for a perfect balance. The motors have a lot of parts available for them. Plus the motors can handle some boost with out major modifications. Once again, I'd go with the Moton suspension for impressive handling.

If you want to be competitive you have to pick a certain area you want to be competitive in. You cant expect to run 8's on the strip, and win races at the track, while getting good gas mileage. Focus on one aspect, and build the car for that. If you want something that will tear up the strip, focus on your motor. If you want something that will sling you around the corners, focus on suspension and some high end power. If you want good gas mileage drive a Prius.

I thought the thing was he wanted to run 12s. You could have a street/strip car run 12s. Im not arguing with you here, if I wanted a drag car, a Z with a 350 in it is a good idea, I never thought of that. However if I need a daily driver to run 12s I dont think I'd want the Z with a 350. But yes, I do agree that the car all depends on the application.

pimprolla112
05-25-2006, 11:53 PM
Hell if you want to be different, get an older toyota or nissan pickup and do a turbo engine swap. Im currently helping a friend with a sr20det swap in a nissan. I want to put a rb sereis engine in one. But thats just me you can haul stuff, its fast as hell and no one expects it.

Another swap which im doing , Yes it fwd, is a 90 4 dr accord with a h23 turbo. Im trying for low 12's be kind of cool to beat a mustang or camaro with a 4 door honda.

You can get a used 240 off ebay and get a rb25dett that would be a swap and a half, that car would be fast.

sv650s
05-26-2006, 06:03 PM
You could just say you dont like the looks but dont say that engines internals can only take 5psi. The VQ is the same engine in the 300ZX just minus the turbo. You could def run much more then 5 psi.
whoa.....the 300zx used the vg30et or vg30dett never a vq series engine, and even if a vq35dett was made nissan would use weaker internals for the n/a version because they're not needed on a n/a engine just like other companies do.....now the 5 psi thing i don't know about

edit: and to the thread starter what about a galant vr4 or eclipse gsx? (i know the average stock gsx should be about 10k or less) besides awd pwns all

ponchonutty
05-26-2006, 06:14 PM
Why not just buy a rebuilt/salvaged SRT4? They are everywhere these days and as long as your credit is OK you can get good loans on them. There was a rebuilt '04 srt4 on Ebay with all kinds of bolt ons already on it including an SCCA correct rollcage that sold for only $9k with 13k miles on it.

Many people are buying the SRT4 and don't know how to handle it. Locally there was a guy that had a black '04 with stage3 kit. Man would that thing run!!! Anyway, he decided to unload it and sold it to some young guy that 2 weeks later made the bumpers kiss each other via a tree it hit.

GOTO www.srtforums.com and look up in the cars for sale area. There usually a few decent deals on there.

mango1
05-28-2006, 05:28 PM
If you want power and light weight try a datsun 510 with a 300zx vg30dett motor. the car will be light(2000) pounds with lots of torque and and hp or for gas try an sr20det or k24det motor all swaps can be done fairly easy with the help from somone who has done it.

ponchonutty
05-30-2006, 07:26 AM
I saw a '87 Buick T-type that's only got about 45k on the clock for sale for $9500. A buddy of mine has one that just has a few tweaks and such that's running deep into the 11's in the quarter.

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