Fuel Injector/spider How To


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JoshBarber
04-29-2006, 10:51 AM
This is being done on my 98 Blazer LT 4x4

After realizing that the dealer wanted to charge me 3-4 hours labor ($89/hr) JUST to remove the upper intake.....not including any work within, I decided it was a definite DIYS!
After removing it once....it takes no more than 15-20minutes at most.

The most important thing to remember is you need to immediately block your intake ports firmly with shop rags. If not, you may learn the hard way...as I did....that you can easily lose a part or tool inside and find yourself removing the lower intake as well....with much aggrevation, and time wasted.
I can't say it enough! It takes 5 seconds to be safe.

As soon as you remove the upper intake cover:
BLOCK YOUR INTAKE PORTS IMMEDIATELY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!

Disconnect your battery, and relieve the fuel pressure from the system at the fuel rail (either with a vent on a fuel pressure gauge, or pressing in the valve pin holding a shop rag over it to catch any excess)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/JoshB_/fuelspider/1.jpg
Remove your air intake as a whole. (4 screws on filter, and twist screw on top of throttle body)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/JoshB_/fuelspider/2.jpg
Disconnect the fuel supply and return lines at the firewall (16mm)

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Remove the 12mm bolt securing the lines to the bracket.

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Remove the two 8mm nuts securing the fuel lines to the fuel meter body. (This is what I dropped into the intake, and they're NOT magnetic!)

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Remove the four 10mm bolts securing the throttle cable brackets.
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Remove the throttle cable and cruise control cable. The cruise cable will pop off backwards, but you'll need to relieve the tension and take the throttle cable bullet off to disconnect it.

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Disconnect all electrical connections (including the main fuel spider connection), and using a DEEPWELL 10mm socket, remove all 10 bolts securing the upper intake cover. Gently guide the fuel meter body back out of the cover, and remove the cover.

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You now have access to the fuel spider. Using a flat screwdriver, gently pry the tabs of the fuel meter from the bracket securing it. Pinch the injector tabs and remove the poppets from their holes.

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Inspect the fuel spider thoroughly for leaks. If it appears as though the injectors are leaking from underneath the fuel meter body, you can remove them individually.

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Remove the two 8mm bolts securing the metal bracket underneath the fuel meter body and set aside.
Using a small screwdriver and needle nose pliers, gently pry the plastic cap from the fuel meter body that secures the injector. Again VERY GENTLY, taking care not to damage the plastic injector line, pull the injector from the body using the the needlenose pliers. You may need to use a small dull screwdriver from the inside to help push the injector out.

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With the injector free, you can inspect the two orings on each.

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Here you see the Oring kit for the fuel spider which includes all o-rings on the spider, as well as the metal bracket and nuts that brace the injectors into the body. This seal kit is: GM # 17113205
Remove the Plastic retaining caps, and Orings. Be sure to use a slight coat of Oring grease when reinstalling them. Replace all Orings on the fuel meter body in the same manner. Now would be the time to replace the regulator if necessary. It's approx. $90 from GM.

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Before reinstalling the spider, carefully inspect the two Orings on the fuel supply and return lines...replace if needed. You may also choose to replace the upper intake cover gasket at this time. It comes in a set with the Upper Intake Gasket, Throttle Body Gasket, and Fuel Meter Body Oring (seen in orange). This Gasket kit runs around $30, and is GM#17113215.

Installation is reverse of removal.

If you choose to replace the whole assembly, there is an updated fuel spider. Below are the part numbers and PDF GM Bulletin for the changeover. It's supposed to correct the problem of sticking injectors, and is half the price if you believe you may have more than one bad injector. It also includes the regulator, which alone is $90. NOTE: The blocked intake ports, and cleaned intake!

If you choose this route, as I eventually did, you'll need:

Here's the part numbers:
12568332 - MFI Assembly
88894355 - Bracket
17113215 - Seal kit

Here his the GM Bulletin for install (thanks to Blazee!):
http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=1709708

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/JoshB_/fuelspider/18.jpg

drdd
04-29-2006, 01:57 PM
nice write-up

blazee
04-29-2006, 01:58 PM
Good Job. Added to the FAQ.

muzzy1maniac
04-29-2006, 04:34 PM
Damn! That's a sweet write-up! Thanks!

srbianats
04-29-2006, 10:10 PM
Good job. Happy to see things turned out the way you wanted.

JoshBarber
04-30-2006, 11:52 AM
Good Job. Added to the FAQ.


FUEL MILEAGE APPEARS TO HAVE DOUBLED SINCE THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SPIDER!!!!!!! Will reply with actual mileage change

sebryce
04-30-2006, 02:02 PM
Excellent post!!! You are right, a picture is worth a 1,000 words... Looks like they have done away with the poppets... If your mileage has improved that will definately offset the cost. Is this this updated assembly very expensive?

blazee
04-30-2006, 02:26 PM
Excellent post!!! You are right, a picture is worth a 1,000 words... Looks like they have done away with the poppets... If your mileage has improved that will definately offset the cost. Is this this updated assembly very expensive?

$300 - $400 from the GM dealer.

Less than $200 from www.GMPartsDirect.com

sebryce
04-30-2006, 11:49 PM
Thanks Blazee, I will look into replacing mine, sounds like gmpartsdirect.com is the way to go...

sebryce
05-01-2006, 12:08 AM
Did installation of the MFI assembly require any special instructions?

JoshBarber
05-01-2006, 07:42 AM
Did installation of the MFI assembly require any special instructions?


It's pretty straight forward. That GM Bulletin that (Blazee) and I provided the link for, gives the specific directions on the install. It's pretty much just replacing the bracket (it sits in a specific direction front to back), and making sure the fuel injector lines are in a specific routing. I believe one has to run under another etc. And then its just making sure the electrical connectors at the tip of each injector are facing the center of the intake to allow clearance when reinstalling the cover. It also notes that once the injector has snapped into its hole, it should not be removed or it may damage the tip.

BlazerBoyLT98
05-01-2006, 10:20 AM
Great write up

sebryce
05-02-2006, 01:25 AM
Thanks guys! This website rocks big time!!!! Replaced the spider assembly this evening and I am still in shock at how responsive and quick my '98 suv is now running! Hope my gas mileage will improve as well... Checking for lower manifold leaks and so far so good as well (after replacing the gaskets the 2nd time and torquing to correct specs). Saved serious $,$$$ over the dealer as I replace both oil cooler lines, spark plugs & wires, rotor & cap, lower & upper manifold gaskets and replaced the fuel injector spider assembly. I seriously could not have done most of these jobs without your help!

Thanks again.

JoshBarber
05-02-2006, 09:14 AM
Thanks guys! This website rocks big time!!!! Replaced the spider assembly this evening and I am still in shock at how responsive and quick my '98 suv is now running! Hope my gas mileage will improve as well... Checking for lower manifold leaks and so far so good as well (after replacing the gaskets the 2nd time and torquing to correct specs). Saved serious $,$$$ over the dealer as I replace both oil cooler lines, spark plugs & wires, rotor & cap, lower & upper manifold gaskets and replaced the fuel injector spider assembly. I seriously could not have done most of these jobs without your help!

Thanks again.

Glad to help bro. Judging by the fact that yours is a lot more "responsive and quick" now, (if the spider made a difference I'd say the injectors may have been stuck partially closed...where mine were stuck open. That was the problem with the old spider assemblys. Don't ask me why GM never recalled them when so many different models used them....also,
I'd say the new plugs, wires, cap & rotor are likely causes of the quickness as well.

98 headache 4.3
11-12-2006, 02:21 PM
great write up. done like a pro. I wanted to know if after making the swap to MFI does it always start first crank?

JoshBarber
11-21-2006, 03:00 PM
yes sir

great write up. done like a pro. I wanted to know if after making the swap to MFI does it always start first crank?

PawNtheSandman
05-12-2007, 09:39 PM
Could we get a reup of that pdf file?

ginobass
07-03-2007, 03:40 PM
The link to the MFI conversion PDF no longer works, is there another source?

I looked at those part numbers on GM Parts Dirct, the descriptions are poor, part 12568332 ($154) just says 'injector' - is that the entire assembly, or just one? Didn't say anything about a regulator included. Bracket was 20 bucks and gasket/seal kit 23.

TomB985
07-10-2007, 09:09 PM
I have a '95 Blazer, and I'm curious about how the fuel fittings on the back of the plenum are sealed.

I replaced the CPI/nut kit back in March, with no leaks and everything working. I never used anything to seal the fuel fittings, and it worked just fine. Now I just tore it all down again to replace my intake gasket, and when I got it all back together, I have a continuous leak out of the fitting on the fuel sending line...the return line seems fine. I tried thread sealer on the threads...is there another way to seal them? Or is it just a pressure fitting, and I should just tighten it up?

Thanks!

FisherJD
07-21-2007, 08:18 PM
Does anyone know if this will work on a 1995 4.3L "W" and if this is all the parts that I need to update the spider:

12568332 - MFI Assembly
88894355 - Bracket
17113215 - Seal kit

I can't find the link for the GM Service Bulletin either.

Thank you!!

TomB985
07-21-2007, 11:15 PM
Not quite, you have the numbers for the '96 and up 4.3s. I just got done with this job last night, here's what you need:

CPI: 217-1431 (javascript:displayDetails( 'ACDELCO', '21', '217-1431'))
Intake manifold gasket

It's also recommend when you have it apart to replace the lines running into the injector, also known as a "nut kit" which is part "17112705"

I ended up doing this job twice, once six months ago, and once last night due to the CPI failing again and causing the same problem. First time it took me about 3 1/2 hours, last night it took me just over an hour and a half...once you do it once it goes much faster. Good luck!

FisherJD
07-22-2007, 09:41 AM
I am confused.

Does that mean that I can't convert my 1995 4.3L v6 "W" from Central Port Injection (CPI, Part numbers ACDELCO# 217-1431 or GM# 17113673) to Multi Port Injection (MFI, GM part # 12568332)?

GM Service Bulletin # 00-06-04-003B indicates that the conversion can be done on 1995-2002 Chevrolet S/T Models. GM lists these parts:

12568332 - MFI Assembly
88894355 - Bracket
17113215 - Seal kit (Intake Manifold Gasket) * Is this the correct one for the 1995 "W" engine?

They don't mention the "Nut Kit" (GM part # 17112705) but I am sure as long as I am already in there it would be a good idea.

I would really appreciate any assistance as I am a Newbee :banghead:

TomB985
07-23-2007, 11:57 AM
I did some research, and I have found a reference to a conversion, but I haven't found much on it. I think it would be very difficult to do, however. Consider, your PCM is set up to fire one injector...the MFI system uses six. How would you control it? obviously it's a different wiring harness, and that would also require a new PCM and a new main harness...you're talking probably over $1,000 in parts...IF you could get it to work. There's no real benefit to the other system other than the fact that it will not fail every 100,000 miles...

I'd just replace the CPI with the same OEM unit, and live with it. Most of these trucks don't see 200,000 miles, so i doubt you'd be replacing it again.

anthonyalan
07-27-2007, 01:15 PM
I am in the same boat as Fisher. My Jimmy hasn't ran for almost a year, and a mechanic told us it was the nut kit, and instead of telling us he would fix it, offered to buy it from us, since it isn't worth that much. I figured me and a buddy could change it with the proper instructions(I was hoping from AF). I also have the "W" VIN which seems to be different from this write up. Is there any other write that show how to change the nut kit on the "W" VIN? Or is this one similar enough to use on my Jimmy?

TomB985
07-28-2007, 02:42 PM
What year is your jimmy?

anthonyalan
08-02-2007, 02:20 PM
It's a 92

FisherJD
08-07-2007, 07:05 PM
Anyone still looking for the Service Bulletin # 00-06-04-003B, I did find it at:

http://members.shaw.ca/betterthanyoutoo/Sticking%20Poppet.htm

This works great on 1995-2002 Chevrolet or GMC S/T Models, with 4.3L, 5.0L or 5.7L Engines(VINs W, X, M, R). This modification was developed by GM for use on GM vehicles. It does not require any rewiring, only the new MFI Injector (part # 12568332), Manfold seal kit (part # 1711-3215), and a new bracket for the MFI Injector (Part # 88894355). NOTE These parts are for a 4.3L V6 (Parts for a V8 are listed in the service Bulletin).

My S-10 has 142,000 miles on it and now runs like it did when it was new!!:)

hernandez3674
10-14-2007, 12:55 AM
THanks Josh for your write up.. based on your post i purchased the same parts thru gmopartsdirect and in less then two hours i was on the road again. Tremendous difference for me since i notice mine CPI was leaking ... well worth it. thanks

terryl50
03-12-2008, 01:52 AM
Hey, I'm new to this site but this is a great post. I'm about to do this upgrade kit to my 2000 4.3 Chevy Blazer. One slight problem I've run acrossed. How do you get to the fuel supply lines near the fire wall to disconnect them. I'm guessing there's a wrench for this I just want to know the proper approach.
Thanks to everyone in advance.
Terry L

johnhutchinsusa
03-30-2008, 05:34 PM
Terry,
On my 2000 Jimmy, I use a 16mm crowsfoot (Craftsman) on the end of a long 3/8" extension. Once it's broken loose, I can unscrew the rest of the way by hand.
If there was space, the proper wrench would be a flare nut wrench.
Good luck,
John

terryl50
03-30-2008, 07:17 PM
Terry,
On my 2000 Jimmy, I use a 16mm crowsfoot (Craftsman) on the end of a long 3/8" extension. Once it's broken loose, I can unscrew the rest of the way by hand.
If there was space, the proper wrench would be a flare nut wrench.
Good luck,
John


Hey, John thanks for the reply. I already have it off, but your post will help with the install, If you have done this before I do have one concern before I order the update from GM Parts direct, Is this 100% the correct part # 12568332 I tried emailing them but I haven't got a responce yet, also how long does it take for them to ship it to you.

johnhutchinsusa
03-30-2008, 10:29 PM
Hey, John thanks for the reply....

I still have the old style injection body, but having tried to get it to stop leaking for the last 2 weeks, I see the MFI upgrade coming.
So far as the nuts on the fuel lines, be sure and check or replace the o-rings when you reassemble.
Good Luck
John

terryl50
03-30-2008, 10:59 PM
Hey, John thanks for the reply....

I still have the old style injection body, but having tried to get it to stop leaking for the last 2 weeks, I see the MFI upgrade coming.
So far as the nuts on the fuel lines, be sure and check or replace the o-rings when you reassemble.
Good Luck
John

Hi again thanks for the advice already have them. The only thing that I'm waiting for is some type of verifcation that this is the right part. So I can order the upgrade. My manual says that I have a CSEFI fuel inj , GM Direct and the post from GM on the install says that this is for a SCPI to MFI UPGRADE, My question is, are CSEFI and SCPI one in the same? They look the same according to the pictures. I just don't want to order the wrong part.
Thanks Terry

johnhutchinsusa
04-04-2008, 05:07 PM
Terry
Got reply today from GMDirect. You probably heard from them by now.
I picked my parts up from a dealer friend on Wednesday.
Looks like it should fit perfectly, but weather hasn't allowed me to get it on yet. I/m excited about getting that old dog of an injector body out and putting the better design in.
Let us know how you come out.

(from GMDirect)
"pk12568332" is the correct part number for your vehicle, per the VIN
supplied.


Thank you for choosing www.GmPartsDirect.com


Subject: Part number verification

**Please confirm part numbers and pricing for:

2000 GMC Jimmy 4.3 L Vin 1GKDT13W8Y2103XXX

1 each pk12568332 MFI upgrade

1 each 88894355 V6 Bracket

1 each 17113215 V6 seal kit

johnhutchinsusa
04-07-2008, 11:15 PM
Got the 2000 Jimmy put back together today.
MFI part numbers in above message fit/work no problem.
Have other issues, but by george, my leaking fuel pressure problems are gone!

John

prenticect
04-08-2008, 10:03 AM
OK, I need some clarification.

When I went to change my CFi injectors origianlly, I apparently got the MFI injector. It did not look like those injectors would fit into my lower intake manifold. So does the lower intake need to be replaced as well? From the parts list you have up there, it seems not. Also the computer works the same? I do not need to replace any other of those electrical sensors? If not, that is great, but I am just curious.

It definately seems the CFI has all kinds of problems and the MFI is the way to go. I replaced the CFI injectors and apparently now I have a huge vacuum leak somewhere so I need to take it all apart again to redo it to triple check what is incorrect. Since I am doing it again, I am thinking maybe do this conversion and end the issues with this fuel system.

FYI, 96 GMC 5.7.

Any input you all can have for me I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

johnhutchinsusa
04-08-2008, 04:58 PM
On 2000 GMC Jimmy 4.3 6cyl W engine, the only thing I had to watch out for when putting the MFI spider in, was turning the injector connectors so that the upper intake cover would fit. Everything else seemed to go slick.

Good luck
John

terryl50
04-11-2008, 12:42 AM
Hi John, I just got my order in from GM parts Direct. I have run across what I hope is not a problem. All my fuel lines coming off the the fuel meter body are facing towards the fuel pressure regulator. according to the install they all need to be away from the fuel pressure regulator was yours like this or did I get a bad one? It's doesn't look like the fuel lines will turn 180 degrees. I don't want to damage it, Just wanted to know what yours looked like when you took it out of the box.
Thanks

johnhutchinsusa
04-11-2008, 07:30 AM
Hi John, I just got my order in from GM parts Direct. I have run across what I hope is not a problem. All my fuel lines coming off the the fuel meter body are facing towards the fuel pressure regulator. according to the install they all need to be away from the fuel pressure regulator was yours like this or did I get a bad one? It's doesn't look like the fuel lines will turn 180 degrees. I don't want to damage it, Just wanted to know what yours looked like when you took it out of the box.
Thanks

Like yours, mine had the lines turned around to fit the plastic formed packing.
I gently turned them around to the front without problem.That tubing is probably pretty tough, but I treated it gently anyway.
Number 3 has to slip behind number 1 slightly. Position connectors like the technote describes towards manifold so upper half goes on OK,
Details:
http://members.shaw.ca/betterthanyoutoo/Sticking%20Poppet.htm
Between the excellent AF How To and the tech notes.
it went pretty slick.
Let us hear how you came out.
Good luck
John

terryl50
04-19-2008, 10:37 PM
Like yours, mine had the lines turned around to fit the plastic formed packing.
I gently turned them around to the front without problem.That tubing is probably pretty tough, but I treated it gently anyway.
Number 3 has to slip behind number 1 slightly. Position connectors like the technote describes towards manifold so upper half goes on OK,
Details:
http://members.shaw.ca/betterthanyoutoo/Sticking%20Poppet.htm
Between the excellent AF How To and the tech notes.
it went pretty slick.
Let us hear how you came out.
Good luck
John

Hey John just letting you know I got it on everthing seems ok, but I do have one problem that I thought this kit would fix but it's still there . Once in a while it want's to backfire on start up causing the starter to grind. A mech friend of mine said it's proable the crank sensor , ever hear of this problem?

johnhutchinsusa
04-20-2008, 05:40 PM
Hey John just letting you know I got it on everthing seems ok, but I do have one problem that I thought this kit would fix but it's still there . Once in a while it want's to backfire on start up causing the starter to grind. A mech friend of mine said it's proable the crank sensor , ever hear of this problem?


Not sure about that one, Terry,
but what do you think about starting a new thread on it in problem diagnosis section and let's see what the pros have to say about it?

John

shadowone
04-23-2008, 01:49 PM
MFI assembly 12568332
Can someone tell me if the green plastic tubes on the injectors come off. They appear to be too large for the ports.

Bryan Burkhalter
06-02-2008, 05:02 PM
Terry
Got reply today from GMDirect. You probably heard from them by now.
I picked my parts up from a dealer friend on Wednesday.
Looks like it should fit perfectly, but weather hasn't allowed me to get it on yet. I/m excited about getting that old dog of an injector body out and putting the better design in.
Let us know how you come out.

(from GMDirect)
"pk12568332" is the correct part number for your vehicle, per the VIN
supplied.


Thank you for choosing www.GmPartsDirect.com (http://www.GmPartsDirect.com)


Subject: Part number verification

**Please confirm part numbers and pricing for:

2000 GMC Jimmy 4.3 L Vin 1GKDT13W8Y2103XXX

1 each pk12568332 MFI upgrade

1 each 88894355 V6 Bracket

1 each 17113215 V6 seal kit

Were these 100% everything you needed to order online for this job? Aside from the various tools, are these 3 items all one would need to take this job from cradle to grave, assuming everything went smoothly? I too have a 2000 GMC Jimmy 4.3L, and wouldn't mind doing this job over a weekend to improve my jimmy's performance/economy.

mixin
06-04-2008, 09:39 AM
Yep, that's all you will need. I also bought a 1/4 torque wrench from harbor frieght to make sure I got the upper intake fastners installed to the correct in/lb rating (it's freakishly low)- I've heard this is important so you don't crack or distort your plastic intake from overtorquing thereby creating vacuum leaks. Also, buy a couple cans of throttle body cleaner as yours will probably be gummed up from underneath. It's also a good time to think of other stuff to do while you're at it, cap/rotor etc... Before you attempt the job, also check the condition of your lower intake gaskets as these are problematic with our trucks (do a search). If you'd like to replace yours with newer, better designed ones, installing the MFI is almost just a part of re-assembly of that job. Good Luck,

My favorite part about the MFI is the quick starts, two revolutions of the starter every time vs 4-6 with the old poppets! Now it sounds like-*wrowwrowVROOOOM* Actually makes me enjoy the truck more!

droppedbowtie
10-25-2008, 10:17 PM
hey guys im new to this forum specifically for this thread, as many of you my spiders went fubar and reaked havoc on my engine, would this swap take away my need of replacing all my spiders? cause from what ive learned so far there pricey and this swap dosent seem that bad to do effort wise and money wise?

authoriti
10-30-2008, 05:29 PM
I'm going to be replacing my old spider with a new upgraded module (used). The part that concerned me is that the new module doesn't seem to use the same style connector for the lower manifold. It's just a white tube. On my old 96 that I did the injector connectors were black with a tooth like structure on the tip to hold them on. I haven't had time to see if there is a ridge on the inside of the new one though. Is this normal or did I get a unit that is missing parts?

Thank you.

zaxx0n
08-21-2009, 07:42 PM
I'am having problem with 1 of my spider lines keeps "clogging" up, I've used fuel injector cleaner, seems to not be helping. I been searching on how to get to them and try to do it myself since mech charges me 300 to 400 bucks each time i take it back for this problem (3 time in 2yrs). Is doing this very hard to do? or is there way to just let it run and put more fuel injector cleaner in it hoping maybe it will clear up...? or any other ideas anyone has.
thx.

Rottwiener
10-08-2009, 12:15 PM
Is there an updated thread for this topic?
It appears that GM Parts Direct has changed the contents of the MFI kit. The current listing for pk12568332 includes the bracket and the seal kit, but does not include the regulator. I'd like to do this mod, but am woried about not getting all of the right parts. Any help?
Thanks,
Jeff

laxman21
10-22-2009, 02:02 PM
get it off ebay....much cheaper. My V-8 was $225 and the V-6 is about the same.

AC Delco
Adelphi
Borg-warner



They are all the same made by the same people.

krackerjack9
10-25-2009, 10:03 PM
I just replaced my CPI spider assembly in my 92 S-10 blazer. I had 273,441 miles on it. About 2years ago I thought I was going to be replaced but turned out that fuel regulator was leaking. The past 2 months my milage was down to 17 mpg from 23/24. Took me about a little over a hour and half to take out the old one and put in the new one. Used about 2 cans of engine degreaser on the uppper intake and the lower intake. Man that was just flat out nasty carbon mess!!! Any way took about 3 cranks and about minute of reving it to clear out all the engine and carb cleaner that was remaning in the ports im guessing. Drove into town and it was just smooth no more rough idling and most of all NO Service Engine Light!!!! Will post my fuel milage latter after I run 2 tanks thur it. I drive 27 miles one way to work and only 2 stop signs and 2 traffic lights to go thur so its a good 98% highway miles. Got CPI unit from Autowharehouse for 189.89 send in my old unit and it comes out to 159 and some change. Tools needed a 7mm socked, 10mm long socket, one straight slot screwdriver and one Torx bit cant remember size and that was it.

krackerjack9
10-29-2009, 06:36 AM
I couldnt wait till I hit around 240-250 miles I filled up at 153 miles and it took 6.73 for a mpg of 22.7 miles per gallon. Im sure it will go over 23 maybe 24 once I change out the oil and put in some new spark plugs.:biggrin:

socialvictim
11-21-2009, 09:31 PM
I just wanted to say thanks for this awesome write-up. It was very helpful and informative. I recently replace my fuel spider in my '99 Jimmy. It was getting to where it was very hard to start regardless of temp. I replace the spider and now it fires up better than when we purchased a couple of years ago. I am still getting pretty lame fuel mileage. But I am hoping to learn from this site on how to fix that though.

krackerjack9
11-21-2009, 10:34 PM
Up date everything is still great milage is constinatly around 23.2 mpg.
I did up my air pressure a bit to 38psi and had frontend aligned along with some new goodyear tires, I needed some tires. I checked my plugs last week and everyone of them looks like a perfect burn pattern. Other than that im extreemly pleased on results. So if I get another 5 years out of my 92 Blazer I will be more than happy. The only thing I could see going wrong is the transmission. So far no signs of anything going wrong,but I ocassionally tow my Kubota L4400 with frontend loader and Rhion 172 brush shredder. Wieght is im guessing around 5500lbs. Im on back roads and dont go over 50mph. :smokin::smokin:

Grossey
11-26-2009, 08:26 PM
Great post great pics in pic 3 is the fuel line clip upside down? the straight edge side fits on the crimp on the fuel lines better than the round edge side.

Grossey
11-26-2009, 08:40 PM
Sorry thats pic 4 with the 2 small nuts:shakehead car came to me leaking fuel there and spider sucked down in intake with no gasket on it should have caught fire.

Thetedunit
02-27-2010, 03:19 AM
Can anyone tell me why you must replace the bracket when converting to the new CPI? The old bracket looks the same to me ... doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it? 97 4.3 Blazer

Thetedunit
02-27-2010, 04:24 AM
Ok ... sorry . . . i overlooked the second (1st link didn't work for me either) link to the SB where it mentions that there is indeed a difference in brackets. One other question though ... After throwing down $300 clams for the new MFI system, I am veeeery concerned with bending the tubes in the manner necessary to reach their correct positions. SB says nothing about bending them, only says to reposition the #3 behind #1 to eliminate interference. Will these bend easily without breaking? Many Thanks to any response!

Thetedunit
02-28-2010, 02:44 PM
Ok, I knew it was a dumbass question when I asked it. Was just looking for a little reassurance I guess. For anyone else who may have the same concerns ... bending the tubes didn't damage them, it was really no problem at all. They are made of teflon or nylon or something similar with plenty of flexibility.
As far as the bracket goes, I just modified the old bracket by using a high speed to grind off the excess length then rounded off all the sharp edges. Even that prob wasn't necessary. That saved me $25! I removed the bolt in the bracket securing the fuel supply and return lines to the intake manifold and also down below i removed them from the next attachment point. This gave me enough flexibility to remove and reattach them from/to the intake without having to disconnect them next to the distributor.
Misfire codes are gone! She runs like a dream now! Drove her the 60 miles to return her to my dad and didn't really notice an increase in MPGs according to the overhead display. Performance was noticeably better though.

michaelcannon88
03-31-2010, 07:32 PM
Ok idk if it was stated earlier in this thread, I have a 93 Jimmy 4.3 W code, does GM carry this replacement kit for my model i just replaced it with oem and still hate it my truck has major problems i get 16mpg highway, dont kno how to check timing never figured it out Haynes manuel lead me in circles, running way rich starts rough and been running like crap for a while and the getup is to sluggish any ideas on my problems.

wbrilla
04-27-2010, 09:01 AM
I recently purchased a 1996 Jimmy. Body was in great shape, but the engine wasn't startable - the prior owner had been doing some tinkering under the hood. Anyway, to make a long story short, the fuel injection spider has been completly disassembled.

Questions:
1. Is there electronic polarity for the injectors?
2. Are all the injectors the same for each cylinder?
3. Is there anything I need to know about the lines and poppets?

I'd really like to see if I can get this heap running "as is" before I dump alot of money into an iffy engine, so I'm not interested in upgrading to MFI at the present time.

Any help with this issue would be greatly appreciated.

WMB

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