Does anyone have any idea how much the 240sx is really worth now? Do you think that the new movie F+F: Tokyo Drift will have a big impact on the value of one? S13/14/who knows ...maybe S12?

fuck that prices might change on s13 and s14 but s12 your stretching it big time are you nuts? only major drift cars that have exposure wil be affected if they are even affected

(Disclaimer: s12 fans this is not the thread for you)

okay, forget s12s then. Focus on the S13 and S14. In my opinion, this movie looks okay but whether the fast and furious genre succeeds or fails, drift cars are getting even more popular.

yes drifting is getting more popular thats happening even w/o the movie though the movie will probablly make kids think that they can drft anything. oh well ive spoken on this subject on to many forums and in to many threads im over it

i think there's gonna be a boom for 240s, fds, fcs, rx7s and all of the rest.. thats part of the reason i'm selling my car.. the only problem is that by the time i have money for a new one IT will be more expensive too.. but i think the value will increase quite a bit after the movie comes out

Is the movie coming out within a few months? I only have some months to sell it after college ends and then I have a stay of execution till my summer job starts up.

i think it's gonna be import apocalypse....the automatic 240s are gonna get expensive and you're gonna see a whole lot of them riced just any car within their price range is gonna be a little more popular riced out, bad thing is there's a 350z, 240sx and a skyline in there + the thing is i wanna see it so i can review it but i don't wanna be seen anywhere buying tickets for that this summer

here's the trailer: http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/thefastandthefurioustokyodrift.html

"when you drift, if you ain't out of control you ain't in control" wtf? i don't like drifting and even i know it's all about being in control.......i can point out 5 mistakes from just the trailer

well it is a controlled loss of control but thats beside the point.
if i was a theif i would be hitting up the movie theater parking lots like mad on opening night of this movie. come to think of it i think im going to start.
ill go see the movie for entertainment purposes

i think im going to sit out side the theater and walk w/ the crowds when the movie is over and see how many people say "man im going to learn how to drift now" of soemthing to that affect. then i can punch them in the face. and when i get arrested i will claim that im just trying to save lives

wah wah people will you shut up already

me?

question: half of us wanna sell our 240 when the movie comes out, why do you want to sell it, and what do you plan to buy, becuase from the way i see it everything else will raise in price and really in the end you have gained nothing. but thats just me.

Second, ya i could really careless. I mean the more 240's people buy, the most stupid shit they do, the more in the junkyard, the more easier it is to find parts.

they'll go up. They wont get riced out anymore than they already are.....these cars are hard to find still. Iv noticed alot more around here already with the drift craze. But it seems to me that 99% of 240 people are performance oriented. Not show oriented they just want a clean ass 240. Thats just around here though i guess. I have yet to see a super ricey 240 around here. When i do, ill get a little disappointed, but then realize that i dont care because i know what i got. To each there own.

well it is a controlled loss of control but thats beside the point.
if i was a theif i would be hitting up the movie theater parking lots like mad on opening night of this movie. come to think of it i think im going to start.
ill go see the movie for entertainment purposes

i think im going to sit out side the theater and walk w/ the crowds when the movie is over and see how many people say "man im going to learn how to drift now" of soemthing to that affect. then i can punch them in the face. and when i get arrested i will claim that im just trying to save lives

DAMNIT I was gonna make that my signature but it was too long.

question: half of us wanna sell our 240 when the movie comes out, why do you want to sell it, and what do you plan to buy, becuase from the way i see it everything else will raise in price and really in the end you have gained nothing. but thats just me.

Second, ya i could really careless. I mean the more 240's people buy, the most stupid shit they do, the more in the junkyard, the more easier it is to find parts.

You'd kill me if I told you, and relax, it's not a honda. I'm selling my 240sx for a few reasons (I always have a few reasons)
1. It doesn't get good enough gas mileage
2. The speedometer goes to 110
3. The car goes to 110

Those are my few reasons, other than that, it's a great car.

You'd kill me if I told you, and relax, it's not a honda. I'm selling my 240sx for a few reasons (I always have a few reasons)
1. It doesn't get good enough gas mileage
2. The speedometer goes to 110
3. The car goes to 110

Those are my few reasons, other than that, it's a great car.


uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i was thinking the same chuki

i'm selling my car because i know i can get a coupe for $1000 and sell my hatch for $6000... add that on to the $15,000 i'll be making this summer and you got a good 240. not tryin to jinx myself but whatever. i'll do what i can. the prices will definitely increase but only on the ones with good bodies and frames. also, the prices of the sr, rb and ca will increase, so if you have one and you're getting rid of it, WAIT TILL THE MOVIE COMES OUT. *COUGH DARIN COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH WAIT COUGH*

i've already got my extra ka which will be worked on over the summer, along with the body of my current hatch, which i just put a down payment on!!

NO MORE RUST

anyways its time to go to the bar.. GO SENS GO (for anybody who is following the playoffs - ottawa beat john tortarella and his fucking flaming lightning..) TIME TO CELEBRATE!! SENS ARE BRINGIN THE CUP HOME!!!

im keeping my fucked up sr and rebuilding the shell will be going to a friend im pretty sure and ill sell the front end for like 1k

i know ill have a nice amount invested......and the needle wont stop at 110 nor will the car.......and i would never sell it. Fast is fast.....it can never get out dated. Iv heard tv shows on speed and shit, talk about how the 240 is the "57 chevy" of our time. popular and somewhat rare car of our time.

lol the 57 chevy or our time..........right.............

uhhh what showsaid that? weird

i know ill have a nice amount invested......and the needle wont stop at 110 nor will the car.......and i would never sell it. Fast is fast.....it can never get out dated. Iv heard tv shows on speed and shit, talk about how the 240 is the "57 chevy" of our time. popular and somewhat rare car of our time.

I'm speaking from the standpoint of a car designed to be fast. The gas mileage.... back in 92, they weren't as concerned about fuel mileage as they are now? I dunno. The 240sx has served it's duty to me, getting me back and forth to college. It does have a lot of potential. But I'm really better off getting a newer car more suited to my purpose. You're all making me feel guilty!!

I'm sure your Camaro will get great gas mileage........


ANyways, who cares, what happens will happen and it's not by discussing it that it will make ricers go away. But I agree with chuki, most people don't want to rice otu their 240s, but they don't know anythign abotu cars so they end up with 17x7 rims and Groutn Control coilovers, not because they are ricers, but becuase they are new to actual sports cars.

I'm sure your Camaro will get great gas mileage........


ANyways, who cares, what happens will happen and it's not by discussing it that it will make ricers go away. But I agree with chuki, most people don't want to rice otu their 240s, but they don't know anythign abotu cars so they end up with 17x7 rims and Groutn Control coilovers, not because they are ricers, but becuase they are new to actual sports cars.

I'm not here to start a war, especially because I like the 240. But for the last time, it's not the greatest car in the world. Yeah I know some guys will dispute this statement but I don't want this thread locked because I blew a gasket.

I'm starting to fear this, EVEN NEWBIER DRIFTING CRAZE because i've watched some amateur drift videos and I can't frickin believe they're doing all of this on public streets. They're too reckless and newbs with cars are REALLY gonna put lives at risk.

I can't fully agree with you about the performance oriented type in drifting because depending on the *coughcough* 'content' of previous F+F films, kids will believe they can do just about anything in a ricer. We've seen very bad drag racing attempts in the past, imagine a VERY BAD drift.

I hope I sell my car to someone who knows what they're doing.

fuck the F&F. people keep saying "stop your bitching". But a few months ago this ricer guy was talking to a friend and was like "your VTEC doesnt boost and throw you back in the seat like mine does". A couple days ago i saw this bitch ricer talking about how he likes 240's so much when i was hanging with a friend who has an SR. Every honda owner is going out to buy S chassis because they automatically think they can drift. Everytime friends and i roll up to any car meet, we get the usual "hey are you guys drifters?" from all the damn ricers. Just because you have an S chassis, doesnt automatically make you a hardcore JdM drifter. IDK, maybe im just ranting against all the rice, but i hate seeing honda owners going out to buy 240's.

fuck the F&F. people keep saying "stop your bitching". But a few months ago this ricer guy was talking to a friend and was like "your VTEC doesnt boost and throw you back in the seat like mine does". A couple days ago i saw this bitch ricer talking about how he likes 240's so much when i was hanging with a friend who has an SR. Every honda owner is going out to buy S chassis because they automatically think they can drift. Everytime friends and i roll up to any car meet, we get the usual "hey are you guys drifters?" from all the damn ricers. Just because you have an S chassis, doesnt automatically make you a hardcore JdM drifter. IDK, maybe im just ranting against all the rice, but i hate seeing honda owners going out to buy 240's.

I don't know about drifting but I've become a better driver, and in some eyes, a worse driver. But you're absolutely right, you gotta know what you're doing and the consequences of it but the idiots probably won't care about all of that. This is gonna be fun to watch.

i think im going to sit out side the theater and walk w/ the crowds when the movie (f+f3) is over and see how many people say "man im going to learn how to drift now" of soemthing to that affect. then i can punch them in the face. and when i get arrested i will claim that im just trying to save lives

lmfao sheer genius! :grinno:

today i saw a black girl drive a s13 coupe w. some 17x7 "blingin" rims i wanted someone to either shoot me for witnessing this or shoot her or both. i felt bad to bad i wasnt able to pull her over and offer her 1k on the spot cash cause i would have if i could

lol the 57 chevy or our time..........right.............


i cant remember where. But they were saying how the 240 kind of followed the 57's footsteps of that time. Like they werent really in that high of demand at the time, but later on they became "cool" and well now almost everyone has heard of a 57 chevy for sure. Thats what i was trying to get across.

i hope f and f flops. in few years im gonna sell my coupe (drifting is already huge in newzealand so i doubt f and f will do much over here) and move back to NY, and buy a hatch. im gonna be super pissed if i have to spend more than 1k for a fucked-powertrain-beater that just doesnt have rust. anyways, im off to go flush $900 down that could have been saved for adjustables but will be spent on kyb's and king's. l a m e

D-bo, why are you sticking with 240s? With 15k you could get an older M3 which will own the 240 in every way, plus they make like 600hp with a turbo kit. Think smart, imo spending high money on a cheap car is not very smart, for the money spent you could always have a car that won't lose its price very easily and will own almost everything.
I personally went with a E30 BMW 325, I'll probably sell it soon as I am almost done with my turbo set up on the civic, but i'll see. For my next car I'll prolly go with a 944 non-turbo, which will out handle practically anything without any upgrades.
As for 240s, the real price right now is under $2000 for S13 and 3-4 for S14. Good condition exapmles here go for about 4000 for a S13 and about 7k for the S14s. My guess is that the price won't go up as drifting is very well known among many kids, and not too many actually go out and drift their cars as it is too expensive. Hicas models will prolly drop in price as they "can't" drift, so I might be getting sooner or later, if there will be some left un-converted.

Think smart, imo spending high money on a cheap car is not very smart, for the money spent you could always have a car that won't lose its price very easily and will own almost everything.


I personally went with a E30 BMW 325, I'll probably sell it soon as I am almost done with my turbo set up on the civic, but i'll see....

ownage dude that whole post is a contradiction to itself

lol that was a dumb post........its about what you like bro. lol i know plenty of beamer guys. Shit i work with a member of the board for the stl bmw club (highly sponsored club....he goes on trips and shit and test drives beamers)...he test drove the m6. He has an all out racecar bmw too. I forgot the model (not a beamer guy sorry) but its fully caged, fiberglass panels, suspension work, lap counter/timer, totally gutted, race slicks, wheels,and plenty more that i dont remember. its basically a road course car only. Has to be trailored. Its pretty cool. STOCK engine. Its still quick and agile for what he uses it for though. Granted its no 10 second beast.

ROUGH ESTIMATION
I bought a 240 for 1600. Put 20k into it and you'll have a monster. I mean 10k in engine would be fully built and standalone and very very very strong lol. Plenty hp for any roadcar/circuit car. 10k in suspension/drivetrain and other little tid bits(more so driver comfort items) and you have a solid performing streetable car.

Plus it depends on who you know and what deals you can come across. I mean you dont need a super sweet rare jdm bride seat....you could just get some cheap ass used one and work just as good. It all depends on taste and style for what one would spend to "go fast".

Dont get me wrong i can see your point. This is most likely how domestic guys view it. Why spent 5 grand to make a civic run 13's lolololol. When you can buy a old beat up foxbody mustang and spend 5 g's on engine and run a very very very fast time. It all depends on what you like and what YOU want and what YOU want the car to do.


why spend 300,000 on a ferrari. Spend 300,000 on your e30 and will it out perform the ferrari??? Most likely so, but who still has the cooler car??? Which car would more rather be wanted??? But who cares you built what you like, the ferrari owner got what he liked. So your post was really "ignorant" in a way.

the way i see it is you failed already by even wasting time on a civic. To many turbo civics around here that get stomped on by lightly(and i mean lightly) moded rwd cars. Roll patrol sure there "quick" but race from a dig and watch yourself most likely get amtrak train lengthed on.

/end rant

oh and trust me, as soon as your turbo setup gets owned by a stage 2 neon(hell maybe even a stage 1), that civic is as good as sold.....im telling you, you'll have fun with it, but quickly see what potential it really has. Your gonna have to spend more on getting the power to the ground and hooking up alot sooner than what a rwd car would. I would just scrap that project and immediately go into the beamer. You will like it better.

I'll prolly be selling my 240 (for way too much to some dumb ricer) when I can afford an S2k.

keep the 240's yall... the hipe will go down.... and the value will go up =)

ehh im 240less now but i stil have my engine i will find a hatch later.

and haha a amtrack train length ahahahaha

I'll prolly be selling my 240 (for way too much to some dumb ricer) when I can afford an S2k.


wtf if you like torqueless wonders go ahead. s2k slow as fuck with supporting mods. But handles well. I guess it depends on how much you drive twisties.

lol that was a dumb post........its about what you like bro. lol i know plenty of beamer guys. Shit i work with a member of the board for the stl bmw club (highly sponsored club....he goes on trips and shit and test drives beamers)...he test drove the m6. He has an all out racecar bmw too. I forgot the model (not a beamer guy sorry) but its fully caged, fiberglass panels, suspension work, lap counter/timer, totally gutted, race slicks, wheels,and plenty more that i dont remember. its basically a road course car only. Has to be trailored. Its pretty cool. STOCK engine. Its still quick and agile for what he uses it for though. Granted its no 10 second beast.

ROUGH ESTIMATION
I bought a 240 for 1600. Put 20k into it and you'll have a monster. I mean 10k in engine would be fully built and standalone and very very very strong lol. Plenty hp for any roadcar/circuit car. 10k in suspension/drivetrain and other little tid bits(more so driver comfort items) and you have a solid performing streetable car.

Plus it depends on who you know and what deals you can come across. I mean you dont need a super sweet rare jdm bride seat....you could just get some cheap ass used one and work just as good. It all depends on taste and style for what one would spend to "go fast".

Dont get me wrong i can see your point. This is most likely how domestic guys view it. Why spent 5 grand to make a civic run 13's lolololol. When you can buy a old beat up foxbody mustang and spend 5 g's on engine and run a very very very fast time. It all depends on what you like and what YOU want and what YOU want the car to do.


why spend 300,000 on a ferrari. Spend 300,000 on your e30 and will it out perform the ferrari??? Most likely so, but who still has the cooler car??? Which car would more rather be wanted??? But who cares you built what you like, the ferrari owner got what he liked. So your post was really "ignorant" in a way.

the way i see it is you failed already by even wasting time on a civic. To many turbo civics around here that get stomped on by lightly(and i mean lightly) moded rwd cars. Roll patrol sure there "quick" but race from a dig and watch yourself most likely get amtrak train lengthed on.

/end rant
Amen to that brother!!

wtf if you like torqueless wonders go ahead. s2k slow as fuck with supporting mods. But handles well. I guess it depends on how much you drive twisties.
IMO S2k > 240

imo
240=2000>S2K=15000. Give me whatever the difference is in the cost of the S2K and ill own it all over. Ive almost got my turbo setup built for a little over 1000, that would leave alot left for suspension setup...

there are forced inducted s2k around here.......not worth the time if you want to go fast. But if thats your ride of choice. go ahead and buy it. You like what you like. There are pretty nice cars. There is one around here with a fujitsubo exhaust and test pipe. It sounds nice NA. THey can handle the twisties, but i wouldnt say they owned a 240. Of course im biased. Stock for stock sure i guess. But the s2k is one of honda's "better" cars. Nissan has bigger better stuff to worry about for that department.

imo
240=2000>S2K=15000. Give me whatever the difference is in the cost of the S2K and ill own it all over. Ive almost got my turbo setup built for a little over 1000, that would leave alot left for suspension setup...


yea and suspension isnt really that expensive lol. Well it depends on how extensive you want to go. I basically just bought aftermarket stuff to replace all the multi link suspension pieces. But i did get the over priced tein flex's way back in highschool. So you could knock off 500 if i got the KTS set up.

IMO S2k > 240


well its official in my opinion is the stupidest remark you can ever make of course its your opinion no need to state that. ahh i hate that phrase now onto cars. 240 dollar for dollar much better.

well its official in my opinion is the stupidest remark you can ever make of course its your opinion no need to state that. ahh i hate that phrase now onto cars. 240 dollar for dollar much better.
Well no shit its my opinion but its seems whenever I don't tack that on people seem to think Im trying to pass it off as fact.

nope its a stupid ass remark to say
thats almost as bad as saying "no offense" before you say something rude to someone
and what you said could not be construed as fact any way you look at it i hate the phrase see me hating the phrase = fact

How the fuck is it ownage you retard? My turbo set-up cost me under $300, WOW thats fucking high! For $1200 total spent on my car including car itself and my stereo, it powns you stock 240s ass. So stfu noob.
And what kind of retard would rather own a sr20 swapped 240 instead of an M3? Get a life.
My turbo is 100$, mani-$16, injectors w/intercooler $50, BOV $15, rechip ECU-Free, DP-$50, plus oil lines which should add up to a little under 300 + adapter plate for the turbo. No fucking way I am gonna spend more than $2000 on a civic.
Its like people started bashing the guy who got a c-class mercedes instead of his 240, so retarded.

And Chuki for 25K I would rather get an old porsche 944 turbo, put 1k into suspension and 1k for a new turbo and trust me, in the twist it will still kill the 240. And have over 10k for whatever I want, shit a new car or something.

By the way, why is this not in the off-topic section? Has little to do with 240s anyways.

How the fuck is it ownage you retard? My turbo set-up cost me under $300, WOW thats fucking high! For $1200 total spent on my car including car itself and my stereo, it powns you stock 240s ass. So stfu noob.
And what kind of retard would rather own a sr20 swapped 240 instead of an M3? Get a life.
My turbo is 100$, mani-$16, injectors w/intercooler $50, BOV $15, rechip ECU-Free, DP-$50, plus oil lines which should add up to a little under 300 + adapter plate for the turbo. No fucking way I am gonna spend more than $2000 on a civic.
Its like people started bashing the guy who got a c-class mercedes instead of his 240, so retarded.

And Chuki for 25K I would rather get an old porsche 944 turbo, put 1k into suspension and 1k for a new turbo and trust me, in the twist it will still kill the 240. And have over 10k for whatever I want, shit a new car or something.


like i said to each there own. Thats still going to be a pile for what you have into it. 25k into a 240 is almost a brand new car full of aftermarket. 1k into porsche suspension is nothing....coilovers whoopedy do. And a new turbo...big woop still a slow pile. Its all driver skill. So you go ahead with your old ass worn 944 with coils and a "new turbo".

and your turbo kit sounds so cheaped out. Ill give you a 14 second pass at best.......lol, not worth 300 bucks. Good luck man. Once its all said and done. you will realize. There are kids around here with way more "better" and done up nicely stuff as far as turbo and superchargers go on there civics and they will be the first to tell you, dont waste the money. But its whatever. Personal experience is the only way you'll learn. You will see very fast.

I see what you'r saying, yes it is a civic, it will be slow. But KA takes too much gas, and 3.09 per gallon for a 17 year old high school student is pretty high. I decided to get a turbo to do something, plus I can still get good fuel economy if I stay off boost. If it wasn't for gas prices the civic would be long gone.
And speaking of 944 turbos, for 10k you get a perfect car with about 50k miles, with a bigger turbo you have 300whp+ and with coil overs that thing will outhandle anything, the suspension there is all racing, all you need is different front L-arms. Those cars are amazing for their age (rear mounted tranny). They are actually in a way similar to 240s, thats why I really like them. And I still do love the 240s, just with the gas situation I decided to keep the honda.

Staying on topic: I really don't think it is going to change much, all the new drifting shows already effected the whole situation.

wow, lets all spend out the ass on porsche parts. And yes, it is cheap as hell to build a turbo civic, because everyone has one, and they are about the rice these days. In the end, you still drive a FWD car that everyone hates, YAY HONDA FTW!!! Yeah the porsche 944 does handle like a beast, but your still gonna pay alot for shit, i bet coils for a 944 are 4x the cost for awesome coils on a 240sx.

Nope, thats the nice thing, prices for porsche parts are very similar to other cars, labor is what will screw you up the ass.
About my civic, yes, everyone has one, I would not call a stock civic with integra rims rice, but hey 28mpg city is good enough of a reason for me to keep it, for now at least.

http://www.paragon-products.com/

500$ for a MAFS, 120$ for an armrest, 185$ for a door handle, a sport clutch is 775$, and race is almost 1200$, fuel injects are about 150$ a piece (isnt all that bad, but if your saying you can just slap a larger turbo and get 300hp your gonna need 600$ worth of injectors, and they want 500$ for an ECU, 210 for a fuel pump...adds up easily for what you say is a simple turbo upgrade), there 3" catback isnt even very impressive and its almost 800$...

Overall, some parts are cheap (still not cheaper than for a 240 though), but alot of that shit is way to damn expensive.

And you say your stock civic isnt rice? I thought it had a turbo kit? That wouldnt be stock..Or you are building the kit? Because in that case ive almost got my turbo kit built for my S13 and total ive spent about 900$ so far...

can we please go on topic again? the shit about wheter that dude's civic is rice or not, why do you care? this is the internet. lol

i hope the value goes up, a lot. if not, i didnt lose to much money anyways lol

oh i owned a civic.. wel a crx to be exact. and if your buying a $300 turbo kit. it cant be that great. what is it a ebay turbo for 100? with ebay intercooloer for 50? and shit i spent well over 2k on my crx but it would run about mid 12's while i have spent like 600 on my 240 and its running mid 14's and the 240 dont eat that much gas. i just found building a crx a street/drag racing a waste. dont get me wrong it was a fast car just had traction probs

Nothing beats RWD, and the 240 is one of the cheapest rwd you can get while still having some style...

/\ thats true.
And for my civic it is a rebuilt starion turbocharger with DSM 450cc injectors and DSM smic, DSM piping, Bosch BOV, Civic HF mani with adapter plate. Modified starion DP. Yes guys its that cheap. Nothing is in yet, I have a broken arm and waiting for that to heal.
Porsches are just like other cars, you need to know places to buy stuff off. Clutches are generally $300+, for 300whp you don't need to upgrade anything but you'll be maxing out the stock turbo at 300. And chips can be burned using simple software called motronic editor. I recently got into chip tunning, thats actually another little reason to keep my civic, with a chip burner you practically have a stand alone. Plus if I blow the engine, it won't be a big deal.

oh i owned a civic.. wel a crx to be exact. and if your buying a $300 turbo kit. it cant be that great. what is it a ebay turbo for 100? with ebay intercooloer for 50? and shit i spent well over 2k on my crx but it would run about mid 12's while i have spent like 600 on my 240 and its running mid 14's and the 240 dont eat that much gas. i just found building a crx a street/drag racing a waste. dont get me wrong it was a fast car just had traction probs




bwhhahahahaha this guy just said everything i told you would happen bwhahahahahahahahahaahah. He learned from personal experience.....like i said. Good luck pavlo....hope its a mini van soccer mom beast eater.

and a 300 dollar clutch??? where did you get that walmart?

howd you break your arm?

[QOUTE]Nothing beats RWD, and the 240 is one of the cheapest rwd you can get while still having some style...[QOUTE\]ever heard of AWD?faster acceleration, and in more advanced 4WD systems(like the nissan skyline system), better cornering

[QUOTE]Nothing beats RWD, and the 240 is one of the cheapest rwd you can get while still having some style...[QUOTE\]ever heard of AWD?faster acceleration, and in more advanced 4WD systems(like the nissan skyline system), better cornering

Yes I have, but RWD to me is more fun ;)

well to be honest. i have driven sports cars in all drive trains. RWD. i have a 240 and a camaro z28. FWD. my CRX. and AWD i have a talon turbo. and the talon is slowest. from what ive seen awd is heavier since the 3000gt is a heavy car the stealth ie... and it dont mean you can go faster. only thing awd does for you is take off grip(and thats if its a good awd) and thats mostly fixed with a good set of tires and shit nowdays. and i think funnest is RWD. unless your in like 3 foot of snow.

awd......f1 dont use it........they accelerate, and corner better than anything....good game though.

rwd is better then awd except of the line.
almost every super car in the world is rwd they must be using it for a reason

oh i know its better

But sport cars arn't made to be daily driven, that what civics are for, they are safer for general crowd. And yes RWD is fun, nothing beats a tail friendly light RWD car (E30 ftw!), not too many people like the styling of the E30s though, and I didn't go with 240 because it is just too common nowdays.
Ohh and I broke my arm armwrestling, and no it wasn't one of those disgusing breaks, it just cracked. Sucks because I can't work for a while now (I am a mechanic). Shit happens.

to common nowdays? its not like they have made any new ones since you first started liking them

But sport cars arn't made to be daily driven, that what civics are for, they are safer for general crowd. And yes RWD is fun, nothing beats a tail friendly light RWD car (E30 ftw!), not too many people like the styling of the E30s though, and I didn't go with 240 because it is just too common nowdays.
Ohh and I broke my arm armwrestling, and no it wasn't one of those disgusing breaks, it just cracked. Sucks because I can't work for a while now (I am a mechanic). Shit happens.

armwrestling? wtf? thats wierd...

Lol, yeah.
And about 240s, not there aren't more on the road, but too common in the tunning industry. Go to an autoshow, chances are it will be filled with 240s, and civics. It hasn't replaced the civic, but it did join it.

RWD is more fun, thats given ;)

one of the main reasons 4WD isnt in formula one, is that its illegal, and just to heavy.


rwd is better then awd except of the line.
almost every super car in the world is rwd they must be using it for a reason

oh i know its better


ferrari is developing a 4wd drive system now, which is extremly lightweight, and BNR34 like working, so only during acceleration and while losing grip in corners (or just as soon as you lose grip).

i prefer RWD, but i dont mind AWD as the skyline has.

rwd is better then awd except of the line.
almost every super car in the world is rwd they must be using it for a reason

oh i know its better


yea i would say awd is better for EVERYDAY driving.....rain, snow, ice, dry. Jsut because you dont know wtf is going to happen. But you can still manage without it. But for an all out reason to do something rwd is obvious winner. Dragsters etc rwd. F1 rwd. Indy rwd. I mean if all the top dog industries that put millions into research and development use rwd......it must be for a reason. Yea yea those arnt street driven....but thats not the issue. He simply said awd is better. Obviously not. Because if it was better they would design all those industries around it. It may have its benefits and what not, but i guess the negatives out number the positives. Or else they would design around it.

and plz im not saying awd cant be fast lol..........i think we've all seen fast ass examples of both drivetrains. I mean even fwd can be fast.

LMAO, this thread has discussed everything, from Porsches, Hondas, to FWD, AWD, RWD advantages and performance.
This will never die lol.

and breaking your arm when your armwrestling. Actually, Do tell, i wanna hear the story LOL

now all we need is more cow bell.

this tread is still alive? wow...

this tread is still alive? wow...

That's what I was about to say. The day of judgement is coming...

Yo!

hi...

yea i would say awd is better for EVERYDAY driving.....rain, snow, ice, dry. Jsut because you dont know wtf is going to happen. But you can still manage without it. But for an all out reason to do something rwd is obvious winner. Dragsters etc rwd. F1 rwd. Indy rwd. I mean if all the top dog industries that put millions into research and development use rwd......it must be for a reason. Yea yea those arnt street driven....but thats not the issue. He simply said awd is better. Obviously not. Because if it was better they would design all those industries around it. It may have its benefits and what not, but i guess the negatives out number the positives. Or else they would design around it

the issue Formula one doenst use AWD is because its illegal.

the reason Indy car doesnt use it is because they need grip going out of the oval(as in you dont accelerate from 30mph to xxx mph, with 900 horses behind you), and because the system will add weight.

to be honest i dont know the official drag racing rules, but i simply just guess its because the front wheels barely have traction because during the first bit of acceleration, the wheels are most likely in the air. when the front wheels touch the ground again, it means that the rear wheels have full grip, so there are no needs for the front wheels to be driven aswell, because it will actually slow yourself down. the car generates less 'thrust' on the rear wheels, equalling less power overall, resulting in worse times.

why is it illegal in Formula one? well thats because the cars will have so much grip, they could just show trains racing each other. a RWD F1 car has so much grip already, FIA is designing new rear wings for the teams to use next year, to make it more interesting...

exactly dude.......if it was better to make the sport more appealing they would design around it.....you dont need to elaborate it.

i just saw the commercial...awww fuck, the shits about to hit the fan.

well shit. we hit on about everything here. so how does everyone feel about the '67 stang with the rb26 in it?. thats alot of damn weight for the RB. funny they had to load a nissan engine into it to drift with it. shows alot for ford and muscle =)

well shit. we hit on about everything here. so how does everyone feel about the '67 stang with the rb26 in it?. thats alot of damn weight for the RB. funny they had to load a nissan engine into it to drift with it. shows alot for ford and muscle =)



uhhhhh dude they could drift without it........they're just being a movie with all this nonsense of swappage. Jsut like the hondas with a couple of "nissan sr20's". Nissan owns all lol.

were the SR20's prepped for race wars?

were the SR20's prepped for race wars?


lol. Yea they had two batteries for more power...and a custom johny tran vtec conversion.

i still wish they didnt kill the blown charger, yenko and r/t. god damn cars

well shit. we hit on about everything here. so how does everyone feel about the '67 stang with the rb26 in it?. thats alot of damn weight for the RB. funny they had to load a nissan engine into it to drift with it. shows alot for ford and muscle =)

You should know my take on it. I can't believe they pulled that sh** but it is hollywood like chuki said. No offense, and for once I really do mean that to Nissan fanatics but can't other japanese companies make drift ready engines? How about mazda? TOYOTA?? Why nissan?

because nissan is blowing up all the sudden. I mean they've always been big to me. But more kids are going towards nissans now. ANd the GTR is getting alot more recognition over here now. So i would just guess there putting all the new "trendy" stuff in the movie to draw more of crowd. In turn making there pockets fatter. Which allows them to live life with no worries. F'ing bastards.

well good news for y'all....no 240sx's in the fast and the furious (i've got a feeling it's been said in the previous pages but i dont feel like reading them)...i guess it's because they don't have 240sx's in japan and they couldn't do a front end conversion cos they would have to convert it to rhd. we just need to hope that ricers don't figure out that they can make a 240sx look like a silvia. Bad news is that classic fastback mustangs, evos, 350zs, rx-7's and rx-8's, r32 golfs and maybe camrys if they realize that they cant find a chaser so they improvise are all gonna go up in value.

just for fun here's a little info on the movie i got from sport compact car:

The Fast and the Furious 3: We Test The Hype
Tokyo Drift Movie Cars: Dyno Thrashed & Tokyo Crashed

The following is the main info from the article, I didnt read the article yet so I cant touch further on any of the data.

Neelas Turbo RX-8 0-60: 6.7 / 14.9@ 95 mph
RMR EVO IX (rwd) 0-60: 6.6 / 14.5@ 103.6 mph
Volkswagen R32 (awd) 0-60: 6.1 / 14.4@ 94 mph
Toyota Chaser 0-60: 6.1 / 14.3@ 101 mph
Hans Veilside RX-7 0-60: 6.0 / 14.1@ 104.5 mph
RB-powered Mustang 0-60: 6.0 / 13.8@ 105.4 mph
Drift Kings 350Z 0-60: 5.7 / 13.2 @ 114.8 mph

RX-8 w/Greddy turbo 191.4hp / 186 lb-ft of torque
67 Mustang w/RB26DETT- 340.2hp / 264 lb-ft of torque
1998 Toyota Chaser Tourer V 246.8hp / 250 lb-ft of torque
R32 MkV w/rwd conversion 210.9hp / 208.2 lb-ft of torque
RX-7 w/HKS T047 turbo kit 305.7hp / 256 lb-ft of torque
Drift King (APS Twin Turbo) 350Z - 430.3hp / 413.3 lb-ft of torque
EVO IX w/RMR rwd conversion 289.5hp / 289.5 lb-ft of torque

The quickest car to 60 on 2Fast 2Furious was the Honda S2000 with a 5.7 posting and 13.9 @ 99mph ¼ mile and the R34 GT-R did 6.0 to 60 and 14.1 @ 101mph in the ¼ mile. I would have posted the rest of the 2Fast 2Furious numbers, but the fastest suck and I'm not typing the rest of the slowpokes.

By the numbers

$150,000 - Asking price for the Veilside Fortune RX-7, which was crowned Best of Show at the 2005 Tokyo Auto Salon.

$50,000 - How much Universal actually ended up paying

$20,000 - Cost of the custom red leather interior inside of the Veilside RX-7

6 - Cans of black Krylon spray paint used to paint over this interior

1 - RB26DETT-powered 1967 Mustang Fastback built for the movie

5 - Different V-8 Mustang fastbacks created for the movie

2- mustangs destroyed in the movie

7 nissan silvia S15s imported for the movie

4- number of these silvias thar were Spec R versions with the SR20DET, the other three used the NA SR20DE

0- number that actually had an RB swap

25 Nitrous oxide bottles installed on various movie cars

0 Cars actually ran nitrous oxide

2 MkV VW R32s converted to rear-wheel drive by Volkswagen AG (in Germany)

8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolutions converted to rear-wheel drive

4 VW Touran minivans converted to like the incredible hulk. Why? We don't want to know

8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolutions converted to rear-wheel drive

1 RWD Lancer EVOs broken during our test session

1 1970 Monte Carlo engine detonated at the same test session

$14,000 Cost of the Monte Carlos Billy Mitchell-built 572 cubic-inch engine that was destroyed

9,373.4- How many cc's 572 cubic inches equals

4,000 Approximate number of Toyo T1R tires offered for the movie production

2,000 Approximate number of tires actually used

170 Volk Racing wheels donated for the movie

30 Sparco racing seats acquired

30 Recaro racing seats acquired

50 Most number of wheel/tire changes per night of filming

45 Days used to build all 200 movie cars

100 Cars wrecked during filming

260 Rented modified cars used for parking garage scene

600 Asian extras used for LA filming

I officially hate hollywood.

There's going to be S14s, S13s and 180sx's though right? Or is every car they tested, and that's all they're going to use???

just edited the thing (i missed out a few things) there's a s15 that's supposed to have a rb26 swap then he crashes it and swaps the engine into his dad's mustang....any other silvia/180sx in the movie is gonna be a rented extra

this movie looks like too much fun to miss, downloading

ok i doubt they bought the real fortune rx-7. Maybe the damn kit...but not the car lol. Fortune is a kit line they release. If it is the real fortune, then veilside probably just wanted the car in the movie, just like signal etc. And everyone knows the cars were slow as hell......

close plz

anyone have a torrent for this sucker?

close plz


agreed...


I think we can all agree it'll be a great comedy to go see in the theatres... it just so happens to have cool cars with a subcool plot.


Let's let it die.