I wanna know what's the detail difference between the 2. beside being able to control the center diff, and a 300hp motor, 6speed tran, what else is different?

And, the most important of all....is it worth the extra 9,000USD? or is it worth buying a low mile second hand STi?

I heard about a great website which lists all the differences, but it's actually a top secret site so I can get in trouble for posting it here, it's called http://www.subaru.com

emm...don't u think i went there before coming here? 2.5litre DOCH engine with turbo intercooler, that what was decribe as engine for both...so same engine different boost?

I'd get a bug-eye STi...the first one that came with a 6-speed (I have no idea how it was marketed, if at all, in the USA). But imo, the 2L STi's are far superior. They have more of the rally heritage and they have forged internals.

so the new one have cast internal? that's surpising....does that apply for both STi and Wrx?

stupidity strikes again.....please, do a serious search. Also, if you dont know the difference between the two cars, it means you dont need to get one.

I'd get a bug-eye STi...the first one that came with a 6-speed (I have no idea how it was marketed, if at all, in the USA). But imo, the 2L STi's are far superior. They have more of the rally heritage and they have forged internals.
There was no USDM '02 or '03 STi. Therefore, there was no 6 speed Impreza in '02 or '03. Wow......

emm...don't u think i went there before coming here? 2.5litre DOCH engine with turbo intercooler, that what was decribe as engine for both...so same engine different boost?

If you did, it doesn't show. Subaru have a comparison feature on their site which allows you to do a comparison between the two.

stupidity strikes again.....please, do a serious search. Also, if you dont know the difference between the two cars, it means you dont need to get one.

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so the new one have cast internal? that's surpising....does that apply for both STi and Wrx?

The WRX has always had cast internals, nd yes, Subaru did something weird by switching the new STi's to cast internals.

Takeittothetrack, I apologise for not knowing how subaru markets their cars in america to the tee.

I don't know why you guys are being so harsh on this guy, I think he wants to know a bit more than the hp and tq diff between the two engines.

I don't know why you guys are being so harsh on this guy, I think he wants to know a bit more than the hp and tq diff between the two engines.

Because that info in available on Subaru.com :smooch:

u ever use the comparision page? it have nothing on the detail of the engine just the spec...http://www.subaru.com/tools/comparator/comparator_list.jsp?command=3&soaModelCode=6JJ&soaModelCode=6JF&baseSoaModelCode=6JJ

in that site both were label using the same 2.5-liter DOHC intercooled turbocharged aluminum-alloy horizontally opposed Subaru Boxer engine.

Plz show me...where in the bloody comparision site of subaru mention anything about the engine being different? so are u saying that the engine are the same running different boost? huh!? if so couldn't u just say yes? are all the WRX owner in US jackass like u?

stupidity strikes again.....please, do a serious search. Also, if you dont know the difference between the two cars, it means you dont need to get one.

don't you think this is my last resource? since when does noob has a say in anything? :screwy: please show me any site that explain the difference of the engine beside just the hp and tq firgure.....i have already posted the the compare page of subaru.com so don't tell me to go there. and thx for ur concern, its my money, its my car that i am going to buy, and i don't need ur useless comment :uhoh:

u ever use the comparision page? it have nothing on the detail of the engine just the spec...http://www.subaru.com/tools/comparator/comparator_list.jsp?command=3&soaModelCode=6JJ&soaModelCode=6JF&baseSoaModelCode=6JJ

in that site both were label using the same 2.5-liter DOHC intercooled turbocharged aluminum-alloy horizontally opposed Subaru Boxer engine.

Plz show me...where in the bloody comparision site of subaru mention anything about the engine being different? so are u saying that the engine are the same running different boost? huh!? if so couldn't u just say yes? are all the WRX owner in US jackass like u?

Sorry, but when you ask questions without specifying what you're looking for, how do you expect to receive the exact answer you want.

The Subaru site gives you the man-on-the-street comparison of the cars, Joe Spitz's website gives a more in depth comparison:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2006.html

I may come over as a jackass, but I get as frustrated at questions which aren't specific as you do at not getting your specific answer. I apologise.

since you dont want to search, I'll give you the answer about the "boost":



WRX turbo- TD04
STi turbo- VF39

I think thats correct. Do you really think though that subaru is just going to make two cars with an $8000 price difference and make it so all you have to do is upgrade the turbo to make the cheaper one exactly the same as the expensive one? logic man....LOGIC...our world needs more people that use it

Sorry, but when you ask questions without specifying what you're looking for, how do you expect to receive the exact answer you want.

I think you're getting cranky in ur old age ray =P. But you can see from him being a pretty regular member that he wants to know more than hp and tq figures. I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think thats correct. Do you really think though that subaru is just going to make two cars with an $8000 price difference and make it so all you have to do is upgrade the turbo to make the cheaper one exactly the same as the expensive one? logic man....LOGIC...our world needs more people that use it
Of course not that's why he asked the question. He wants to know all the differences between the two. Not just some crap u can get off the subaru website.

If you weren't such a jackass and lashed out at him and just explained to him the differences there would be no need for any hostility. You obviously know some good stuff, but if you can't intelligibly get your info across without flaming people, then you're useless.

Ray I can understand because we get idiots on here all the time. But you being a n00b you have no right to flame someone for asking a question with answers that are not readily available. If you can't be bothered to explain to people something, leave it at that.

The arrogance you have displayed over the 5 or so posts you have posted goes to show a lot. Yes you know stuff, yes you know more, but it doesn't mean you have to laud it over ppl like you're king shit. As I said before, if you can't discuss things in a civil manner, your knowledge is useless.

And if you want to talk about logic. What's more logical. To provide a member with info you know off the top of your head? Or to flame him and waste the same amount of time?

And to answer the original poster's qeuestion.

If you can put up with the harshness of an STi, then get it. The WRX is nowhere near the performance machine the STi is.

And personally, I would get a second hand one, there is nothing in my body that would make me get the new ones. The power delivery is quite linear compared to the old ones which gives u a kick in the pants when boost came on. That makes driving more fun, imo, but you may like the more linear power delivery.

The fun part about these cars is that off boost they are slow and feel fat. But once u hit boost, you get a kick in the ass and cars feel so damn nimble.

I have no idea what kinda STi's america has floating around on the 2nd hand market but if I had the money, I'd trade my wrx up for an STi with 6 speed, forged internal, 2L. The My02 is the best example of this. But since they were never sold in USDM...oh well, I'm glad I live here then lol.

Or, just get an evo.

Thx rob for understanding....

I might have failed to say what "detail" i want, but by my second post i have already say that i want to know more about the engine since it was label same engine with different hp and Tq figure on the engine, and i have also say that subaru.com was useless....however u keep asking me to go there....

either way...thx u for the http://www.cars101.com/subaru/impreza/wrxsti2006.html...it got the stuff i need..