93 pa won't turn over
i didn't have a chance to check it out, its been raining started raining yesterday, this morning went to start the car all the dash signal lights turned on as normal, headlights turned on but the car won't crank i am going to check out the selonoid

should i look for something else

Is the PassKey light staying on?

Is the PassKey light staying on?

i don't see a PassKey light there's check engine soon, coollent, airbags, secuity etc and they always come on

i'll check the selonoid

yep it was the selonoid

Moral of this thread is; if the engine will not turn over and the solenoid does not click, there must be a reason the battery voltage does not show a drop when trying to start. (The solenoid does not engage). If it were the VATS system, the starter would be completely disabled and there would be no voltage applied to the purple wire on the solenoid. Also the "security light" would be constantly on. With the limited amount of information given in the first post, the symptoms were not obvious.