Its saturday night in Austin, Tx. This is the usual night for streetracing in austin. Im hanging out with my friends at the Chilles resturaunt on the corner of 183 and IH 35.

Just to let yall know it's mostle domestic's and muscle cars, no imports except for some supras!

Anyways were just sitting up their talking when we see this civic and hear the typical fart can exhaust, and then a high pitched blow off "ppssshhh" fly by the parking lot. Ive seen this guy before and I have been wanting to race him for a while.

Well as soon as he flew by I got in the vette and fired her up and took off after him. I guess he saw me coming because he slowed down so we could both catch a light. Sure enough we both caught a red light. It just turned red so I rolled down my window and asked him what he had.

He said "Exhaust, intake, fuel regulator, and $$$Turbo"

He asked "what do you have?" I told him, "One big azz cam in a 350"

So i revved to about 2500 for the torque convertor, and he was revving as well. When the light turned green he tore out their and i eased on the gas so i wouldn't kick it sideways. At the end of first he was 1 car in front of me, i shifted to second and the rubber screached as my b&m shift kit did its part and i pulled even in the middle of second, when i shifted to third it was over. That big azz cam was doing its part, i shut it down at 100 and i was a good 4 cars ahead of him.

After the race we pulled back into chilles, and we talked it over. I was cool with the guy since he did hang with me. Its not every day that you see a civic on a 350+hp vette's ass.

All in All It was a worthy midnight snack:licker:

american iron!

good kill :bandit:

Is'nt the smell of smoked rice GREAT!


Good Kill

hahahah yeah that civic did better then i expected him too. i guess v-tec and turbo put together is pretty good huh?

just a cam gave you 350hp?

seems like you led him on a bit... shift kits and tq converters usually mean more than a cam... oh well... nice kill...

i must admit tho, that i give more props to the civic, b/c he hung in there... just me tho

Originally posted by flylwsi
just a cam gave you 350hp?

seems like you led him on a bit... shift kits and tq converters usually mean more than a cam... oh well... nice kill...

i must admit tho, that i give more props to the civic, b/c he hung in there... just me tho

"One big azz cam in a 350"

That means he has a racing cam in a 350 chevy smallblock, in other words 350 cu in of displacement, and it also has 350 hp.

Ahh
Glad to hear
another ricer met his match!

I'm just glad to hear he had the balls to race a vette. Most civic drivers wouldn't go for it.

most civics wont even take me on

how does saying he has a big cam mean he has 350hp?

on the quote about the "fastest fwd cars running 8s and your car runs 10s"

damn dude.

that's like saying that, "well, the fastest rwd cars run 4s and 5s, so your 8 or 9 is nothing."

it costs money to run as fast as that... you know that. why such a lame quote?

most fwd owners can't afford to run 8s. like you can't afford to run 4s.

geez...

but most fwd drivers (read ricers) around here say shit like they run 8's and 9's, some say they run 6's and 5's. They keep spweing bullshit and then never stage it up.

And the idea is, RWD is made for higher speeds, alot more power. Alot of these FWD cars are made for family cars, not for pure road stomping power.

Originally posted by flylwsi
on the quote about the "fastest fwd cars running 8s and your car runs 10s"

damn dude.

that's like saying that, "well, the fastest rwd cars run 4s and 5s, so your 8 or 9 is nothing."

it costs money to run as fast as that... you know that. why such a lame quote?

most fwd owners can't afford to run 8s. like you can't afford to run 4s.

geez...

What im saying is ricers throw bs storys like their civic runs a 10 in the 1/4 mile, when the fastest top fuel fwd car runs 8's.

Now if a domestic were to tell me that their vette runs 8's in the quarter mile and its street legal i would have to say bs as well. But even an 8 in the quarter is still possible by a street legal vette. But their is no way in hell a civic can be street legal and also run 8's.

Originally posted by erricer


What im saying is ricers throw bs storys like their civic runs a 10 in the 1/4 mile, when the fastest top fuel fwd car runs 8's.

Now if a domestic were to tell me that their vette runs 8's in the quarter mile and its street legal i would have to say bs as well. But even an 8 in the quarter is still possible by a street legal vette. But their is no way in hell a civic can be street legal and also run 8's.

Are their really street legal tires that can hook up well enough to pull 8s?

I think theyre might
Theyre are some that could do 9.24
I believe they were on a Linginfelter 'Vette (The L word is spelt wrong)

:)

Originally posted by erricer


What im saying is ricers throw bs storys like their civic runs a 10 in the 1/4 mile, when the fastest top fuel fwd car runs 8's.

Now if a domestic were to tell me that their vette runs 8's in the quarter mile and its street legal i would have to say bs as well. But even an 8 in the quarter is still possible by a street legal vette. But their is no way in hell a civic can be street legal and also run 8's.

I wouldn't call a 8 sec street legal 'Vette BS... I saw a Dodge Dart w/ a blown Hemi on another forum who was street legal (probably had slicks tho) and ran 6's

-Grendel

i understand, but here is the point.

the fastest rwd cars run 4s. no one bs's that they can run 6s.

an 8 sec fwd car is the fastest out there right now. however, 10s are not too hard to attain. hell, look at the video of the dodge k car that ran a 10 and smoked a supra.

breaking into the 10s is similar for both rwd and fwd, but fwd has a huge barrier to overcome at 8 secs..

so what i am saying is that common knowledge will tell you how fast a car is. i know that anyone who tells me they have a 10 sec car in general is lying, regardless of fwd vs rwd.

but your quote made little to no sense.

and no one said that there was a street legal 8 sec car. and i highly doubt that having slicks on a car that runs 8s (rwd) counts as street legal.

perhaps the term 'street legal' means that they drive their cars on the street... hahahahhaha :flipa:

Originally posted by flylwsi
[B]i understand, but here is the point.

Obviously you dont understand or you wouldn't have written this long thing that says my quote makes no sense!



an 8 sec fwd car is the fastest out there right now. however, 10s are not too hard to attain. hell, look at the video of the dodge k car that ran a 10 and smoked a supra.

If they're not so hard to attain, then why don't I see 10's civics at the tracks? I have yet to see a fwd car do 10's at our track and many other tracks. Hell some of the fastest crx's only do 11's!

breaking into the 10s is similar for both rwd and fwd, but fwd has a huge barrier to overcome at 8 secs..

If breaking into the 10's is similar then why dont I see a 10 sec fwd car at the tracks when I see 10 sec rwd cars all day long? Fwd cars have huge barriers to overcome at 11 seconds much less 8!

so what i am saying is that common knowledge will tell you how fast a car is. i know that anyone who tells me they have a 10 sec car in general is lying, regardless of fwd vs rwd.[QUOTE]

But ask yourself this, who would you believe more, a Chevelle owner, or an Acura owner?
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but your quote made little to no sense.

Only to you it made no sense!

So to conclude my lecture, I think your lost in the world of physics. You think that a car that makes momentum from the front wheels while the wieght of the car shifts towards the rear wheels will be a quicker car!

You probably think that a turbo charger is a replacement for displacement.

Let me tell you a little something. There is no replacement for a big fat cock! Only a guy with a little cock will tell you that its not how big but how good you are! But the guy with the big cock can be just as good and still have the bigger cock! *translate to engines* There is no replacement for displacement. You can have a 5.0 go against a 2.0 and the 5.0 will spank the 2.0 all day long. Now if the 2.0 gets a turbo all the 5.0 has to do is get a turbo aswell and the same results. The 5.0 will win all day long. No if's and's or but's about it. Its pure physics.

Originally posted by erricer

Let me tell you a little something. There is no replacement for a big fat cock! Only a guy with a little cock will tell you that its not how big but how good you are! But the guy with the big cock can be just as good and still have the bigger cock! *translate to engines* There is no replacement for displacement. You can have a 5.0 go against a 2.0 and the 5.0 will spank the 2.0 all day long. Now if the 2.0 gets a turbo all the 5.0 has to do is get a turbo aswell and the same results. The 5.0 will win all day long. No if's and's or but's about it. Its pure physics.

Haha, good analogy... :P

-Grendel

ahem, pardon my bluntness, but...


WHO GIVES A DAMN! It was a little signature not like he personally said it to you. And it makes plenty of sense to me. It's like someone saying they can bench press 400lbs when the world record is 405 (don't go correcting me the numbers are merely for the analogy). Basically he's saying that if the best of a certain car overall runs this, than close to that probably isn't likely on the street, and he's right. Sorry but civics are NOT DESIGNED TO BE FAST. Yes they can be, anything can be. But the point is, it's a low displacement 4 cylinder engine, not designed for preformance. I just went to the forum recently and they admit they lack torque. And what's perfect for street racing and draging in general? Good ol' low end torque. Sorry but like i said any car can be made fast, but civics weren't designed for preformance. Sorry i just can't stand it anymore, im in no way bashing civics, they can be done very tastefully and have a very vast aftermarket allowing uniqueness in each car, but they aren't built stock for speed, and it takes lots of money to make on go 10's. ditto for lots of cars! people think 10 secs in normal after fast and furious but beleive me, 11's is very quick in real life, and 10's are awesome.

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To get a street legal car into the 10 second range takes alot of work and money. And a whole hell of a lot of stress on the engine depending on its size. And I have never seen a FWD car come even close to hitting 10's.

does anyone know what kind of 0-60 time a 10 second car would do. i know there would be different factors such as turbo lag and power bands that could affect it, but do any of you have a general idea as we dont really talk about quarter mile times in europe, more 0-60 and 0-100 times.

0-60 should be around 2.5 - 3 seconds
0-100 should be around 7.5-8 seconds

Those can very depending on weight and torque curve.