i own a 1996 acura integra LS and i'm considering swapping out my motor for a 2002 k20a (type-s) motor, or a b18 that comes in the integra type-r...which would be the better buy?

the k20 obviously, but it will be more expensive.

yeah i know, but is the extra 1000-1500 bucks worth the extra torque? because the type-r doesnt lack much more than 20hp to the k20. im lookin for the best bang for my buck. at first glance, i knew i wanted the k20 but now that i think about it, im not sure if its worth the $5000.

Personally I'd say no, and go with the Type R engine. It costs more to put the k-series in the car, because there are a lot more parts you have to buy to get it all to work. And with the $ you save, you can buy other parts to make the Type R faster than the K20. So based on cost and ease of the swap (and the fact that they're so close in hp and tq); I'd say the b18c is the best choice.

agreed, keep it B series, that will be a direct bolt in for ya

ok but i have heard that the k20a responds a heck of alot better to bolt on's
then say the type r. i see both sides of the arguement here personally i would go with k because i think 6 spd tranny would be sweetness.

I've heard that as well. But for the price vs power, the B18c takes it. The K-series isn't a straight swap like the b18c is, so you have to think about the price of those parts on top of the more $ you're paying for the Type-S engine. So from purely an economic standpoint, the extra 8tq from the Type-S really isn't worth the cost. But that's just my opinion, I'm a K-series Hater (I think they're highly overrated). Now an H22a on the other hand :naughty:...sorry off topic.

i had a chance to buy a k20 (base engine) for $1,500 but i declined because after all the cost of converting the car, the cost would be over $5000 (not including labor). for show factor seeing a k20 in a teg is still sweet. for performance factor, stick with the b18c5 and spend the extra dough on mods (turbo?). oh yeah, rsx-s doesn't have lsd unlike the itr.

I think i'll just go with the b18c5, but how much do you think a turbo will cost me? probably 2500? and which setup do you think would respond best and give the best power gain

b18c5 turbo all the way.

will an H22a fit in my 96 integra because its a hell of a lot cheaper and puts out the same amount of power

Yes it will fit, but it's not cheaper. It will end up costing just as much (maybe slightly more) than the ITR swap. Like the K-series, it's not a direct bolt in swap. However, the parts to do the swap aren't as expensive as with the K-series.

alright. i'll just go with the itr swap then. Thanks for all the help guys.

which turbo setup do you think will work best with the itr motor?

You won't need that much boost to make good power, because the ITR has high compression (11.1:1). So don't go too big on the turbo. Be prepared to spend some $ on the highest octane gas possible or even race gas, and get a good engine management system and pro tune. But personally I would either go as small as possible if you're absolutely set on turboing it, or don't do it at all until you've done a TON of research (which you'll need to do anyways). There's a hell of a lot more to it that just getting a turbo and slapping it on, or you'll just blow it up on the first run.

besides a turbo, what is the next best way to achieve a good gain in horsepower (without using nos, or supercharger)

Basic bolt-ons (intake, exhaust, header), cams (w/ upgraded valvetrain), and higher compression pistons. That's about it.

ITB's oh yea!!

The price on a full K20A2 swap will be $10k, first for a teg, u wont ever be able to pass smog with it because it doesnt have the right emissions as a RSX has. The emissions for a rsx, they have somethings that would be a very hard for a teg, rsx has a emission device in the gas tank, and many other places. K20 swaps are much better then the average b18c5 swap. ive seen integra's run 12.6's with just k20a2.

but.. if u do the actual full swap and get it bar'd, u can sell ur teg for like $20k and make bank!

up to you. id recommend the b18c5 because it will be just a easy swap for a lot more power then stock teg motors

also it would be MUCH sickkker if u had the k20a2 in it because its a fuking k20! lol