my parents really liked the kia sedona for some reason, and the kia dealership here seemed really nice, and such, they asked my parents to test drive one, so they did, and when my parents pulled out and started driving down the street, the van went clunk, jerked, and all the lights on the dash came on.., they turned around and drove it back..only had 1st gear..told the guy.., and well, it's pretty obvious my parents didn't buy a kia..lol