i was just wondering has anyone in here raced a WRX yet, was it modified or not and what happend and did you think?

i raced one in a 4door v6 accord EX. the wrx i raced has an AEM cai as the only performance mod. we went from a standstill with me being 2 lengths in front. By 80 mph, he was about 2 cars in front of me. He told me he launches at around 4 grand. By the time i hit vtec in first gear, he was already in front of me. so yea...

When I had my 6.6 Trans Am, I did. I droped it to low, and we both went, well, I tryed to shift and couldnt, no gear change, my shift cable broke, and he had a rolling start. But, he did dust me. When I taslked to him later he told me he had a slightly larger turbo.

he started the race with "HEY!, ever been beaten by a 4 banger?"

Well, I was then :bandit:

Yes, and I won.

I was on the freeway in the middle lane. I was coming up on some slower traffic and the slow lane was full. Next to me was a newer WRX four door. I drop it a gear and take off, he downs it a gear and floors it trying to prevent me from changing lanes. Needless to say I was able to switch into the fast lane with about three car lengths to spare. I have never raced one from a standstill though.

Raced one the other day. I was following my brother some where, he was in his mustang v6 and I was in the cobra. It was a four lane road and we caught a redlight with a WRX already stopped for the the light. My brother pulled up next to him and I pulled up behind the WRX. The light turned and we all took off. I was inches off his bumper not even full throtle through first gear, but he pulled about a car lenght on my brother. At that point I swung over and floored it as I shifted in to second gear, and pulled right past him. I was kinda disapointed by how slow they really were. The way WRX owners talk you would think they were the faster then all.

wrx's dont got much after the launch. my friend who owns one tells me so...

definitly. the rex has no top end whatso ever. its more of a i'll race you in the rain kinda car. one it hits 80, it loses alot of steam. hey~ what do you expect from a rally car thats designed to acelerate.

its deffinatly not a super car but it has a desructive launch, there is not top end, the guy with the cobra should have had no problem beating the guy with the wrx. but watchout for one with a new turbo! a stock wrx only makes 237hp at the fly and like 165 at the wheel. dosent sound like much but a awd launch is no sh*t. the guy that was trying to race you probly had no hopes of winning he probly just wanted to se if he could keep up. but just imagin what a 300+hp at the wheels wrx could do :D

I've never raced a WRX, but i know that they launch good....and they have pretty good top end power....if i had the money i'd definitely buy one.
And just a little end note.....a guy I work with has a Mustang 5.0, and i got to ride in it the first time last night.....that thing has power!
He's put a lot of money into it...all the visual mods......and under the hood 400 and something horses.....450 or something and 380 or 90 at the wheels.....think it does 0-100km in like low 4's. LOVED THE RIDE!:licker:

gotta love the way 5.0 takes mods

of course causce your engines are atleast twice the size of ours~ lolz. but see a turbo charge car with a small displacement takes mods just as well as a larger v8.

What year is your bro's stang?

Speaking of a wrx with 300 hp my friend has one with a few simple mods and he pulls 300 hp and he gets 0-60 in sub 5 seconds, he can even improve on that but his data logger shows unbelievable stress on his transmission when he does... once he gets a tranny upgrade he will pull it in under 4.5 secs

Originally posted by 1320B4U
What year is your bro's stang?



Its a 1995 v6 with a couple of bolt ons.

TurboS3: 300 hp at the flywheel right? because it is kinda hard to imagine 300 hp at the wheels of the AWD car with a few simple mods. and yea, when you get to aroudn 300 hp at the flywheel the trans. is gonig to blow up.

i hope to ba making 300+ wheel hp in my wrx, im curently installing a power enterpises 1820 turbo and a blitz frount mount intercooler. i havent heard too much about trannys braking, but im sure there's gonna be lots of stress. is your friend going with an sti tranny?

his datalogger is showing stress on the trans?

star trek, what?

seeing as how it is mechanical, you can't hook something electrical to a trans and say, "gee, it is seeing some stress" no way.
surprise, a trans sees stress?

the sti has shorter gears, but nothing special about it strength wise...

i have had this debate, and people say that wrx trans is weak, but they are also citing examples that would blow up any car, like shifting into 1st from 3rd at 30mph...

i've not heard of one break... and i am pretty sure it could handle the power... build the 300hp wrx b4 you worry about the tranny...

For you guys planning on 300+ horses... Get a new tranny... Or atleast rebuild your gears. One of two things will happen, you will go to launch and tear out first, or you will rip out third at some point in time. There has been alot of debate on this and the consensus of the WRX owners is that the stock tranny will be the first weak point you will have to replace when going for big HP numbers. You might be ok at 300, but still it's a risk I wouldn't take.

Originally posted by flylwsi
his datalogger is showing stress on the trans?

star trek, what?

seeing as how it is mechanical, you can't hook something electrical to a trans and say, "gee, it is seeing some stress" no way.
surprise, a trans sees stress?

the sti has shorter gears, but nothing special about it strength wise...

i have had this debate, and people say that wrx trans is weak, but they are also citing examples that would blow up any car, like shifting into 1st from 3rd at 30mph...

i've not heard of one break... and i am pretty sure it could handle the power... build the 300hp wrx b4 you worry about the tranny...

You can get a stack that moniters that sort of thing. Mario has one :D

About the tranny deal, a guy on I-club has a video of him tearing out 3rd. There are tons of guys who have done either that or broken 1st launching.

with most cars you have to rebuild the tranny stronger when you beef up the engine. Riping out 1st or third...dosent sound too fun

Originally posted by Gonthrax
For you guys planning on 300+ horses... Get a new tranny... Or atleast rebuild your gears. One of two things will happen, you will go to launch and tear out first, or you will rip out third at some point in time. There has been alot of debate on this and the consensus of the WRX owners is that the stock tranny will be the first weak point you will have to replace when going for big HP numbers. You might be ok at 300, but still it's a risk I wouldn't take.

Hmm, you made me think here. I plan on running that kind of power if not a little more at one point. I don't know a great deal about my tranny but it has Getrag reinforced gears in it, now I know the clutch will need to be replaced, what about my tranny?

I'm unsure about the LeBaron trans, but the WRX's are notorious for weaksauce transmissions.

i also heard alot about weak center diffs as well.

You guys should check out the Sport Compact Car with the three skylines on it. An R32,33,34 and theres a Bozz Speed Lancer, like April of last year. It has a page about the scoobys trannys. It says the current 5spd has basically been around since-I want to say the 70's?; a long ass time anyway, especially for a performance car. In rally it's nicknamed it "The Glass Tranny". But the new 6spd(JDM) is supposedly a lot stronger and better geared. Not sure about the details, thats just the basics of what I remember. Issue was like April 2001.

There is a trans for the WRX called a "dogbox" that costs $11g's. It's supposed to be indestructable and will make a STOCK wrx run 12's. This is supposed to happen because you can launch at redline.

Dogbox is the term used for rally car transmissions, thats why it costs 11g's and will make it run 12's because its gears are amazingly short.

i doubt it will hurt 1st, the pe1820 has alot of lag and wont probly make full boost in first, not sure about third though. i havent heard of to many wrx guys hurting trannys at this hp unless you a horible driver. but i really don't know...itll be an experiment. wish me luck

Eventhough this thread was about racing a WRX...I must agree that the life of the tranny...and not just a WRX...all trannies depends on how well the driver knows his car, and if he can shift properly or not...being a good driver makes a world of difference...not only in 1/4 mile times, but also in the life of your car!!!!


PEACE:flash:

As the onwer of two AWD turbo charged cars (twins), you lose a ton of HP through the AWD system. As much as 25% or so. Unless you put that on a dyno you cant say for sure how much HP is getting to the tires.

A few simple mods? For 300hp? I dont think so. Any simple mod on a turbo machine that starts with 230 hp will include a bleeder valve upgrade (boost controller of one degree or another) to crank up the boost and that will eventually require that the injectors get replaced. These are not cheap.

As for racing them. I have a couple times. Not much of a race really. Both the VR4s handle it readily. It'd be a better race for the Shadow or Honda.

yeah i would agree with a stock wrx vs vr4, but a wrx with a couple of mods can put away a stock supra easy. a wrx with a turbo is a forimidible opponent. i live in michigan too, im in florida right now but when i get back i would love to run you.....see what a real wrx is. how far are you from saginaw? also what do you have done to that vr4?

oh yeah.....please dont compare the wrx to a honda it may not be a v6 but we have a good 100hp over them. i think that deserves a class change. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Skypatcorbin
yeah i would agree with a stock wrx vs vr4, but a wrx with a couple of mods can put away a stock supra easy. a wrx with a turbo is a forimidible opponent. i live in michigan too, im in florida right now but when i get back i would love to run you.....see what a real wrx is. how far are you from saginaw? also what do you have done to that vr4?

I'm up in Petoskey. If I get down your way, we can try and match them up. The 94 only has an open air filter and gutted cats. The 95 has the open air filter, straight pipping, boost controller, upgraded injectors, RPS clutch and a HKS BOV that give it more hop. Even with all that, the 94 "feels" faster, but I havn't put the 95 on a track to get comparison numbers. Its probably that way because those Spyders are about four hundred pounds heavier.

Whats a mkIV TT supra run in the 1/4 mile? Low 13's right?

Now whats a stock WRX run? mid to low 14's? Won't the WRX will need more than a "couple mods" to run faster than low 13's. But actually, what does a "couple mods" mean? Every bolt on availible or just an intake, exhaust, boost controller?

ha you wise mark IV's run's low 13's. they run mid 13's to 14 flat at best.

oops, well my bad... forget my previous post then.

i don't understand what " a wrx with a turbo is a formidable opponent " means... seeing as how a wrx w/o a turbo is in the middle of a turbo swap or something...

and what are a few minor mods?
i'm really curious...
and drag racing isn't the wrx's strong point... the vr4 should beat it pretty easily...

you guesses it :D

PE 1820 turbo ( should be here tuesday)
blitz fount mount intercooler
blitz nur spect exhaust
godspeed up pipe and down pipe
blitz bov (need to get a new one that holds more boost)
blitz intake
blitz electronic boost controller

the wrx may not have been made for dragging but it can defnatly hold its own. on the street AWD is king, the track RWD. but a stock supra on the street is almost a joke, they dont hook up at all. they do however have tons of potental and crazy trap speeds. if you saw a race between the 2 it would be like this. the wrx would be outta the hole way befor the supra and almost to the end of the track but just at the end the supra would catch up and would beat the wrx by maby 0-.4 sec if they were both stock. my car also weighs a lot less than a VR4 thats why i think it will be a good race.....also i should be running 300+ at the crank. the wrx definatly dose not get the credit as a street car that it should. notice i said street not track. Just give us a couple of years and see if people do not reconcider the wrx as a "dragable" car. the only thing that i really see as holding the wrx back is the trany the gears are way to goofy and are not set for 1/4mile. i think the problem is time just give us a while:p i'll be looking forward to meeting up:D

I dont htink people underestimate the quickness of a wrx on the street around where i live.. i think people over estimate them here... butt thats just me. I'd have a WRX if i could afford one, i think they're damn nice cars.
But, Skypatcorbin, no need to worry about the trans gears not being good for 1/4 mile applications because the trans is going to blow up soon. especially if you're running around with 300+hp at the crank:D

You should have one quick WRX though. I heard a WRX with an HKS exahust(i'm guessing becaue he had a HKS license plate and the exhaust looked of high quality), and oooh man.. it sounded sooo sweet!

This is what a WRX with a few mods is all about:

Turbo XS up and down pipe 3"..followed by a full 3" exhaust.

TurboSmart BOV

Injen Cold air intake

TurboSmart High/Low Manual Boost controller High boost=17psi or .11Mpa.

Cartech Fuel Pressure reg/Riser

Now these are not serious mods, and very little considering how muxch is out there.

Before i had the up/down pipe, fuel press reg and boost controller...my car was running anywhere from 13.8-14.0 depending on how hot the intake was and how good i would lauch. Now that i have these other goodies i will go to the track and test her out. But i'll have to agree that on the street with the above mods...it's hard to keep up or even beat the wrx.

PEACE

that sound like it pulls hard, im telling you guys the WRX dosent get the street cedit it deserves. i would like it when people talk about the big boys, supra's rx-7s, vr4's that wrx's would be added to the list, granted we dont run 10's on the track but the quickes is 11 something and lots of us can run low 13's to low 12's, and the traction of awd is no joke on the street.

Super Spec V: I'm guessing 13 flat or better for your car!