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freakray
02-20-2006, 07:41 PM
From F1-Live.com

F1 teams would be unable to modify their engine designs for three years from 2008, according to Max Mosley's latest radical proposal.

In his compulsive drive to cut costs for smaller teams, the FIA President says manufacturers should have to submit a fixed V8 specification to the governing body so that it could monitor and penalise any design tweaks between 2008-2010.

The move could then precede Mosley's next step - a fuel consumption formula for 2011.

Mosley said the beauty of an engine freeze, and the associated cost savings, is that nothing will change for the man in the grandstand.

Although some quarters of the specialised media claim that Renault's interest in the idea is 'new information' - and therefore has political implications - the concept of a three year freeze first surfaced in January 2005 -- in a letter from the French carmaker to the FIA boss.

« The technical and sporting regulations should be frozen for a minimum of three years, » the team proposed more than a year ago. « Stability of regulations will reduce costs. »


http://f1.racing-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/060220185631.shtml

freakray
02-20-2006, 07:43 PM
Personally, I think Mosley needs to move to Nascar, he certainly seems to be intent on making F1 a copy of the tedious 'great American motorsport'.

What's next, Mosley proposes all F1 tracks are only allowed to have 2 to 3 turns which must all be left hand and not exceed a length of 1 mile?

-The Stig-
02-20-2006, 07:53 PM
Personally, I think Mosley needs to move to Nascar, he certainly seems to be intent on making F1 a copy of the tedious 'great American motorsport'.

What's next, Mosley proposes all F1 tracks are only allowed to have 2 to 3 turns which must all be left hand and not exceed a length of 1 mile?


That'd be awesome.


:disappoin

DinanM3_S2
02-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Terrible idea. Without engine changes you would have the same teams winning 2008-2010, and the same teams losing. I don't like this at all. Teams should be constantly improving their engines, not relying on 3 year old technology.

TheStang00
02-20-2006, 08:59 PM
i dont see why it would be necessary, arent they already cutting production costs by 90% with the recent rules package?

RallyRaider
02-20-2006, 10:15 PM
Max is a very talented man, or does he have an army of scriptwriters deaming this suff up? It is comedy gold I tell you. :lol: Or at least it would be if it wasn't the onc great sport of F1 he was rolyaly fucking over

Another of his recent gems was stating the next Concorde agreement should pay only the privateer teams, not the manufacturers. Funny part was that for some reason he didn't view Ferrari as a manufacturer under this potential rule. The more things change, the more they stay the same...

drdisque
02-21-2006, 11:50 PM
Renault actually supports the engine rules freeze.

Teams would also be allowed chassis development, which is more than enough for teams to give themselves a chance.

RallyRaider
02-21-2006, 11:56 PM
Hang on Renault's proposal of a regulations freeze and Max's of a development freeze are two entirely seperate things!

Rule stability is the one thing F1 needs over and above anything else, it is the only way to reduce costs and bring the grid closer together.

freakray
02-24-2006, 07:25 PM
Renault's letter is simply being turned against them in this situation, it's Max's special way of trying to place the blame elsewhere....

DJ SlipStream
02-25-2006, 10:38 PM
wheres my gun

/me shuffles around the house looking for the M4

aha found it! now tell me where this punk lives??

he really should move to nascar, i got into F1 because it was different from all the other motorsports, now its just becoming another spec series :(

TheStang00
02-25-2006, 11:31 PM
well ill tell you... the one rule change that really pissed me off was the rule on mandated gears, i mean not even nascar did that until a year or two ago.

Dreamspawn
03-05-2006, 05:05 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't F1 the most technogical adnvacned motorsport? Freak it bring back the choice of engines to teams and slicks.

drdisque
03-07-2006, 06:35 PM
despite the restrictions, it is still the most advanced.

SeaWarrior
03-08-2006, 10:21 AM
Terrible idea. Without engine changes you would have the same teams winning 2008-2010, and the same teams losing. I don't like this at all. Teams should be constantly improving their engines, not relying on 3 year old technology.

Ferrari won for several years in a row with engine changes...:p

DinanM3_S2
03-10-2006, 01:52 AM
Ferrari won for several years in a row with engine changes...:p

True, but they also had the best driver in the world. Engine changes should level the playing field from year to year at least among the major teams.

freakray
03-12-2006, 06:59 PM
It's amazing how people can make a one line post and display their complete lack of knowledge about F1.

beef_bourito
03-14-2006, 08:17 AM
i agree with renault, a rules stability would be a good thing, but a developement shouldn't. the only reson for changing rules should be because the cars are too fast or are dangerous, which is why we don't have side skirts, turbochargers, adjustable wings, v12's or v10's. money shouldn't factor in unless some important teams are threatening leaving formula one. these teams are ready to spend the multi millions it takes to run a car, cost reduction will only put more money in their pocket. another reason to reduce costs would be if one team was winning because they had more money, like when the teams could design their own fuel. then it would be an unfair race.

now honestly, where does max moseley live.

Mpowered
04-07-2006, 11:10 AM
I had hoped that the break away group would succeed. Then maybe some decent rules could have been put in place to keep the pinnacle of motorsport at the top. Max continues to drive it down. Don't know how much longer it will remain interesting. The 2 race per engine rule already restricts competition. You see people not going all out because they are afraid the engine will not last. It makes things very uninteresting. The only thing Max is interested in is himself, and stuffing his pockets with everyone else’s hard earned money.:banghead:

CarInfoGuy
04-17-2006, 11:10 AM
What's next, Mosley proposes all F1 tracks are only allowed to have 2 to 3 turns which must all be left hand and not exceed a length of 1 mile?

What, like the IRL?

Seriously, whoever is winning in 2008 is gonna love this restriction, but some of the teams not winning might not survive to see 2011. Might be useful if F1 is trying to clear out the backmarkers and get F1 down to 5 teams and 10 cars, because that's a serious possiblity with that kind of engine deal.

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