OK.....here are some cars i'm considering....what would you pick?

Now see I don't like this thread already cause you've made me do something i long ago swore to myself I'd never do, pick a honda:D

Ok, Integra, not too bad of a car. it's got great handling and can have a a fair ammount of top end power. Should it ever be used for drag racing? Hell no. It's FWD, it's got a small engine, and it's got no torque. I mean I've seen Integras running 20lbs. of boost getting like +400HP, and a measly 200ft-lbs. of torque.

So, if you want a good handling car sure the integras the best choice there. If you want a sports car, especially one for dragging, buy soemthing thats RWD.

A probe? oh god, not even gonna comment.

Talon? awesome car, if it's the AWD model. Otherwise, stay away.

MX-6, I've seen one of these done perfectly, but it's still FWD and even the V6 didn't have that much power.

A cavaelier? :apuke: Don't even get me started on these things. They're a step above a Kia, and i'm not even sure they meet those standards anymore.

Perhaps add a 240sx into the equation, they can be had for the same price as the others mentioned, and have more potential

Ewww, who voted for the talon?

FWD with a non-turbo Neon engine is not a good combination.

Originally posted by CAptynCrunch
Ewww, who voted for the talon?

FWD with a non-turbo Neon engine is not a good combination.

But if it is the turbo AWD one? Then it's the best choice... (from those)

yea i could have added more to the list, but those were some of the cars i was interested in that i could get at a repo center (repossessed cars) at like 40% off

Originally posted by Tom_S8


But if it is the turbo AWD one? Then it's the best choice... (from those)

True Tom, but only the TSI was turbo and AWD.

The ES/ESI/whatever were N/A and FWD.

Originally posted by CAptynCrunch


True Tom, but only the TSI was turbo and AWD.

The ES/ESI/whatever were N/A and FWD.

Ahh damn i didn't interest in it that much... Then i would choose something else not any of those cars... damn get something with a big engine or a turbo engine and RWD or AWD not FWD crap with small NA engine...

ahh.. just get a mustang gt or cobra.

Well said :)

Get a SilEighty...

Are you a bad driver? It sounds as if you have way too many tickets and have to buy a slow car.

Tegs are always nice.

The MX6 has a J-spec version of its 2.5 24-valve DOHC mill packing 200bhp and 170ft lbs. I think there under 2g's for motor and tranny.

:flipa: :flipa: Who in thier right f*ckin mind would vote for an Eagle Talon ES? What the hell, that car is a rip off of the Eclipse anyway, so why vote for that POS instead of the Integra? Whoever voted for it needs to come to Jax, FL (DUVAL) so i can pimp smack your azz into the ground!:badass: :badass: :badass: :smoka:

yeah buddy go with the teg, outta those cars, theres not much to choose from. That would be your best bet for performance upgrades. There is a lot more out on the market.

Welcome BikeRider, how did you get hat bad ass name? Peace!:devil:

Well, you could go for the integra if you are really into hondas... I would say get a Silvia! The only downside is driving in the snow!

Since all those cars suck I'd take the better looking of all of them the Integra.

Originally posted by BikeRider
:flipa: :flipa: Who in thier right f*ckin mind would vote for an Eagle Talon ES? What the hell, that car is a rip off of the Eclipse anyway, so why vote for that POS instead of the Integra? Whoever voted for it needs to come to Jax, FL (DUVAL) so i can pimp smack your azz into the ground!:badass: :badass: :badass: :smoka:

Ok dumdass answer me this, how the hell is a talon a rip-off of an eclipse? It IS an eclipse. They're the same car, made by the same company, and as a matter of fact the eclipse is the worst out of the 3 DSM's. The Talon is better than the eclipse and the Laser is better than the talon again.

Originally posted by 1320B4U
Are you a bad driver? It sounds as if you have way too many tickets and have to buy a slow car.

Tegs are always nice.

The MX6 has a J-spec version of its 2.5 24-valve DOHC mill packing 200bhp and 170ft lbs. I think there under 2g's for motor and tranny.


like i said.....these are the cars which i can get the best deals on, which is why i'm only looking at them....that's why i'm asking, out of those run of the mill cars, which would you consider to be the best

id sday the probe or the intrega cus they r the 2 best IMM

If U were looking at the 95 & up Talon, I recommend that. Otherwise I picked the Integra...

i don't know much about the mx6 but i've heard that the mx6 v6 model has pretty good top end. some guy who eats at my restaurant hit 138 on his v6. stock. my car after 110 it slows down soooo much even though i got 2000 more revs to go. and i know for a fact that the mx6 is best handling out of the group. the only problem is not alot of aftermarket support.

I voted for the Integra... if I had to pick one of those, that is what I would go for...

-Grendel

I would say the probe or the mx6. Make sure to get the V6 though. They are moderately fast stock. I guess I am a bit partial though because a own an MX6. Head over to mx6.com or probetalk.com for more info on these cars.
BTW: If you get the 4cyl make sure to get the 5 speed because those automatics suck worse than a cheap hooker on speed.

Okay guys, he just got done saying he has to get them in stock trim because he can get them for 40% off. A 95 Integra LS will run you 5500 dollars, if you get it for 40% off you're looking at paying about 3000 dollars for it.

I say go with either the Probe or the Integra.

If you're planning on leaving them stock, go with the Integra. If you're gonna mod go with either.

For the Integra you can swap in a B18C1 USDM motor for $3,300.00 even because it comes with the GSR motor mounts and the GSR uses the same engine bay as the Integra LS, and if you get the 94-95 GSR motor which is the same year as the LS you listed, you'll easily run 15 flat with just an intake because that was OBDI I believe and the Vtec engaged at 4800 rpm rather than 5500 rpm.

For the Probe you can get the SHO Supercharged V6 motor, it drops right in and stock with the swap is M3 territory, which is a lot to speak for and you can get the motor at a large junkyard easily for about 2 grand, and the swap labor and parts will cost you about another 1500 dollars.

The SHO motor will not drop in the probe without modification. But you can put in the j-spec motor of an mx6 that with ~200 hp stock. The Probe and MX6 use the same engine and driveline. Good Luck

-Ben

200hp JDM 2.5L, I stated that one earlier.
Supercharged SHO motor? Don't think so.

Originally posted by CAptynCrunch


Ok dumdass answer me this, how the hell is a talon a rip-off of an eclipse? It IS an eclipse. They're the same car, made by the same company, and as a matter of fact the eclipse is the worst out of the 3 DSM's. The Talon is better than the eclipse and the Laser is better than the talon again.

How is the laser the best? I thought they were exactly the same...

-Grendel

Okay. *looking, looking, looking* Walk.

Seriously, the Integra is an option, sort of. I've heard that the suspension starts to go south quick on higher mileage Integras, and you've got a ton of engine work no matter which way you turn.

The Probe and the MX-6 are the same car underneath, so one over the other is an opinion of taste. Both have ultra-flabby chassis, though, and weak-suck engines to boot.

The Talon.......... without a model type I can't recommend it.

Chevy Cavalier...... tell me again why this thing is in production? It's bland, sluggish, has possibly the worst shifter action I've ever felt in a manual, the automatic has kickdown like a mule, there's no chassis prowess to speak of anywhere on the car, and to top it all off, you'll be hard pressed to find parts anywhere to cure any of this.

You'd be better off searching out an inexpensive 240SX or Hachi-roku Corolla. Or, if you want to stay FWD, maybe you might want to find a V-tec Civic, or one of the DOHC Neons. (as soon as you get it, though, get an ACR computer, it axes the speed limiter and gains you about 20hp, for a grand total of 180hp.)

It seems that your stuck in a HARD PLACE....I would take the Integra...provided that those are the only cars you're considering!!

It probally has the most aftermarket parts available than all io the other cars you mentioned.

PEACE AND GOOD LUCK!!

The Talon for sure. Not only are they pretty rare, they have a pretty powerful and modable 4 banger stock engine as well.

yea i'm not considering any of those now......that post was from a long time ago.......

Now i'm looking at an 1995 Olds Achieva with a 3.1L V6
hahaha......i hate the seatbelts attached to the damn doors though....are those safe?

don't see too many Achieva's decked out in race gear...... :devil:
It's the two-door with the spoiler and shit so it at least has somewhat of a sporty look

Funny thing is, the Z24 is the fastest of these cars.

Originally posted by Fliquer
Funny thing is, the Z24 is the fastest of these cars.


haha i was thinking the same thing... haha go chevy Go!

I really don't know why people think that the SHO motor is supercharged, its not and on top of that it takes a hell of alot of costom work to fit that motor into a probe, I have only heard of one person doing it and he had to costomize a bellhousing for his tranny and had a bunch of other problems with the swap. And it costs like 4 grand to put a super on the motor right

My sister had an olds acheiva 2-door with the 2.3L DOHC engine. She says she likes it better than the 3.1L OHV because it revved faster and the 3.1L just felt too heavy for the car, and it only had 5 more hp than the 2.3L. Also I have seen a guy with a modded up acheiva....funny as hell.:D

Originally posted by Fliquer
Funny thing is, the Z24 is the fastest of these cars.

You must remember, most of these guys are not worried about speed, but of the potential of how far it can be riced.

An Achieva? Believe it or not, you're looking at a car that has a competition heritage. Those mid-size coupes actually had some success in SCCA showroom stock meets. The thing is, in the eyes of SS racers the car didn't have much potential beyond its stock form. Eventually, the Dodge Neon ACR showed up. Now it owns F-stock and F-production. (Like F-stock, but certain mods are allowed). In fact, for the amount of money you've got, you could probably find an used up ACR hanging around your local road course. Over here, it's Mid-Ohio. Where else are you gong to get 180hp at 5200rpm and adjustable Konis for under $5,000. The catch is working your way around the lack of interior. The mounting hardware is usually all there, but the things get gutted in the quest for speed. But, hey, that gives you an excuse to get a second Recaro racing bucket and four point harness to match the one that the racer installed.

PS. Watch out for ACR's that have been rolled. It happened a LOT.

PPS: R1-rider, I hope you aren't including me in the "rice" genralization. I might appreciate a well turned out import, but I'm no ricer. How could I be with a 1970 MGB GT? There are barely enough street-legal parts left around for the car engine wise, let alone body panels.

Originally posted by street_racer_00
My sister had an olds acheiva 2-door with the 2.3L DOHC engine. She says she likes it better than the 3.1L OHV because it revved faster and the 3.1L just felt too heavy for the car, and it only had 5 more hp than the 2.3L. Also I have seen a guy with a modded up acheiva....funny as hell.:D


The 2.3 is supposedly a really bad engine though........really hard to work around........expensive repairs.......plus i'll always prefer a V6 to a 4-banger..........maybe that's just me?

Yeah I don't know, when she got rid of it at 80k miles, it was on its last legs:(

You're speaking of the DOHC 2.3L quad 4? Great little motor, made great power for an american 4 cylinder in the early 80s. It's also a far cry better than the 60 degree V6s GM was putting in everything.

Originally posted by Cbass
You're speaking of the DOHC 2.3L quad 4? Great little motor, made great power for an american 4 cylinder in the early 80s. It's also a far cry better than the 60 degree V6s GM was putting in everything.
yes, I am talking about the quad-4 used in the achieva

Are they really that unreliable? BTW, the Northstar is essentially two quad 4s. It has been revised in a few areas of course.

I've got one name in regard to the quad-four: Oldsmobile Aerotech. As in the 261mph, single turbocharger, stock block and head, 900+ HP, Aerotech.
GM had their head screwed on straight once upon a time, just the stuff they tried never funneled down to their production cars. Bummer, huh?