i need to know the price, any hopes for around 25k or 26k? it would be sorta impossible for me to spend anymore than that.:(

it looks to me like 25 or 26k would be the minimum possible price for a bare bones, no options EVO, and thats sort of stretching it. You might have to save up another couple years for an EVO. IMHO they are probably gonna be 30 + for a brand new one. I have pretty much given up on buying one new, too expensive. I am waiting for them to hit the used car market.

But if everyone is thinking the same as you are, there won't be that many available in a couple of years. Besides that, the ones imported will probably be used as rallycar or so called 0 number cars (cars that inspect the rallytrack). Not to sure if you want to own that one.

Same here. There are just a few really road going EVO's around.

Anyway if one comes available in the US for 37K I will consider it as cheap. We are told to expect a price around 52K US dollars.

Nico

hey man..the WRX is pretty good and its high 24k and 25k...and the lancer is supposed to compete with WRX, how can it be that much more expensive man? thats crazy...i dont want to put anyone down....and i dont know much...but i think 37k is too much.

Absolutely no way that the WRX is in the EVO league. I own both a MY99 GTturbo (that's a 218 hp base model, the same kind you get in the US) and a MY00 EVO VI RS2. The EVO is more agressive, more direct and has a much, much firmer ride.

Chipping the GTturbo (allowing 1.2 bar boost) makes it more quick down low. Straight line performance 0-60 km/h might be the same, but above the EVO rules. Same goes for roadhandling. You have to tweek the suspension very much to get the same results.

I agree that the pricedifference is rather steep. But if you want reliable high output base performance, the EVO is where to start. You have to stretch the WRX to get to the baseline of the EVO.

Nico

what do u mean chipping? please explain...more or les...what i have to do to get the wrx to be same or a little better than a stock EVO.

There is an Aussie company called chiptorque that's sells a piggybag chip for the pre new impreza models. In combo with a bleed, you're able to run 1.2 bar safely with this chip. With a full open system you'll be able to get 270 HP and 370 Nm. Downside is that the turbo in the WRX is so small, there's no more ooomph after 4,000 RPM.

The EVO takes off at 3,500 RPM. Below that it feels more sluggish, but that is compensted by the different (shorter) gearing.

Don't know if the chip is available for the US. As for 227 HP... it appears that the US version is different. Therefore I don't know if Aussie or Euro ECU add on stuff will work reliable.

Check I-club (www.i-club.com) for more info on the US model

Nico

hey, i appreciate you helping me, im learninga lot....listen...so from what i saw in that webstie...its basically telling me that i can make the U.S model and STI model

whaaoo...this is so cool, i will be at 280 hp soon, say bye bye to all stock mustangs..... correct me if im wrong. :frog:

Well i saw an ad in either road and track(the one about future cars) or sport compact cars the other day and i saw a ad for the lancer for 14,000. maybe i read it wrong but i dont think so check it out im going to again.

lancer does not = Evo. Lancers cost 14k, Evos dont unless they are really old and in bad condition.

If mitsu prices it at 30k+ they will have a colossol failure on their hands. Hell i can buy a nice MkIV Supra for that much and mod it to 400hp to boot. For the EVO to make it in the states it has to compete with the WRX. From what i have heard it is priced right around where the WRX is from the figures i have seen from England. I will definitely buy an EVO if it is ~28k optioned out...if not i will continue looking for a Supra. I read in Turbo magazine that MotoRex is thinking about importing the IV, V, and VI even if the VII is imported to the states. I see that these companies are going to import these cars but i dont hear whether they will be street legal and what kind of prices will be attached to them. Oh well for now it seems i will wait and watch, and save my nickels and dimes.

Cheers,
Al

I don't really understand everyone who's comparing the wrx to the evo vii in the U.S. The wrx is 227 hp at the engine, I heard it's more like 180-190 bhp(at the wheels). The evo vii is 280bhp, and around 340 engine. You can easily speed up both of them, but an sti wrx has tops around what the evo has stock. With some minor tuning mods(no big $ pieces of equipment), the evo vii can easily be jumped to 340bhp, and a bit over 400 engine. It's four wheel drive system is much improved over a wrx, and handling is much, much sharper. A wrx costs 25K, but it's an inferior car at this point, no matter how you look at it. I was going to keep saving this info, but the expected price for the evo vii in the u.s. WILL be around $32-33K base and $35-36K optioned out.(I have more U.S. info, too, but not releasing it quite yet! ) In my opinion, a small price to pay for a car that can be modified to beat just about any road car you'd ever see in the U.S. for around $40k, porsches and corvettes included. Now if you're lookin for value over braun, I'd probably go for the regular wrx, and just mod it a little, and you'd have a very fast car nonetheless, but still no where near a souped up evo vii. Anyway, two different kind of cars, but if I was going to spend the money, I'd shoot for an evo.

That seems kind of weird since the gray market EVOs (the ones that are supposed to be sold here in the U.S.) are priced at around $40k. It is hard to say if the EVO will make it as a $30k+ compact car. The EVO is also in a market that effectively did not exist in America until the WRX came to our shores, which will make things even more difficult for it. It is hard to say what kind of a splash the EVO will make here in the states. The worst thing about the U.S. is the automakers here dont have the balls to go out on a ledge with a new car and all they really do is chase the trends. Who knows how many AWD Escort Cosworths Ford could have sold stateside?? Enough of my ranting...until i sit in an EVO and smash that throttle i cant really say how much i am willing to plunk down for it, hopefully that time wont be far off. Eh Xencloud what else are you hiding from the hopefuls here?

Originally posted by yamil
and the lancer is supposed to compete with WRX

i don't know if this was mentioned but the EVO is supposed to compete with the WRX STi not the regular WRX we have

Originally posted by xencloud
I don't really understand everyone who's comparing the wrx to the evo vii in the U.S. The wrx is 227 hp at the engine, I heard it's more like 180-190 bhp(at the wheels). The evo vii is 280bhp, and around 340 engine. You can easily speed up both of them, but an sti wrx has tops around what the evo has stock. With some minor tuning mods(no big $ pieces of equipment), the evo vii can easily be jumped to 340bhp, and a bit over 400 engine.

dude... bhp does not mean at the wheels. bhp=Brake HorsePower. this is the number at the FLYWHEEL. the evo vii is rated at 280bhp, thats the power at the FLYWHEEL, or as u call it, at the "engine". thats the exact same amount as the wrx sti is rated. your numbers AND your knowledge are waaay off from fact. where in the hell did u even come up with 340hp? u need to learn a little more before u come on here and start spouting off crap saying its a fact when u really have no clue.

I am not in any way tring to be an ass but I would like to correct your for you own knowledge BHP is Baud Horse Power. Where are you people coming up with the Evo running over $40k?

" In Japan, these extreme cars start near $23,000. Mitsubishi has a couple details to address before import into the United States is ensured, namely intercooler/bumper packaging and California emissions. We're told that the target price would be well under $30,000."
-Motor Trend, November 2001

" The American market can expect the rally-bred sedan to make the trip almost entirely intact, with the exception of the 276-horsepower output: while that figure was originally thought to be reduced to 250 due to emissions and intercooler packaging issues, sources now say it will have at least 260 horses. Price is promised to be under $30, which puts this ultra-sports sedan in elite performance company. Expect Subaru is to counter with its potent WRX STi."
Motor Trend, infomation from the 2001 Detroit Auto Show

I am not here to say that I know everything or that I am always right, but merely here to present the facts.

this is the definition i have:

Brake Horsepower (BHP) The actual horsepower delivered at the crankshaft of an engine.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/955950bhp.JPG

maybe "Baud" means "Brake" in another language or something?

and i think theyre getting their $40,000 estimates based on an article i saw in some magazine that compared the euro-spec evo 7 and the euro spec STi. it had the base price for the STi at $30,000 USD and the base price for the evo at $37,000 USD in that article

but mitsu is cutting out a lot of stuff for the US evo, such as the active differentials, so maybe they can knock the price down to $30,000?

just got back from the mitsu dealr he said the car should be around 30k and dosent think we are gonna get the yaw control or the good diff. but should be the evo8 with the good brakes/seats 280hp motor and a 6 speed from what he told me

:( no yaw wtf!

wat is yaw? is it the acd or ayc?

I would trust NOTHING that Motortrend says. I have seen them make so many assumptions over the years that it's down right ridiculous to think they would know ANYTHING more about the evo than most others do. And to assume they knew this much two years before the expected release of the car, is even more silly.
The evo is to compete with the STI, when these two cars come to the states it will be a fight for your money in this market. The only thing that really really ensures the EVO's success over the subaru (IMO) is the ACD and AYC. Evoloutions have suffered from crankwalk before just like alot of the AWD eclipses have, and the risk of that type of problem and still not recieving the superior awd system of the evo might be enough to turn me away.
As of now, in my personal opinion, I expect the evo 8, brembos, around 260 hp, SMIC, possibly the recaros, but thats about all that can be said. AYC ACD is a toss up, but in my opinion it would be really really stupid not to include them. But car companys have proven not to be genius before. I'm expecting to pay no more than 33k for this package and when compared to the Jspec EVO's price, then adding for the act of getting them over here. I think that's a fair price.

The Lancer Evolution is coming to the US to let you all know. Right now, the engine is 276 bhp and the Impreza WRX STi is at 265 bhp. Both cars are coming to the US either as late 2003 or not until next fall as 2004 models. The Evo will not come here to compete with the WRX, it will completely kill it. Anyway the STi is rated better than the Evo VII is both handling and performance. Now when they come here, they are not going to be totally expensive. The Evo is gonna run between 30,000 and 35,000. The STi is going to be between 33,000 to 38,000. To let you know, Mototrend is wrong. Both cars compete with each other and the WRX does not even fool with them. The WRX could compete if it had a 300 hp turbo in it from COBB Tuning. And the horsepower is from the engine, not from the wheels. Also, bhp does not matter if it is larger or smaller, it all depends on the compresiion ratio. The better the car is tuned, the better it can perform. That is why the STi, which has lower bhp than the Evo beat it. And last to let you know, the Active Yaw Control traction enhancement system uses a computer to optimally regulate torque transfer in the rear differential on 4WD models and thereby tailor rear wheel differentials to match driver operation and vehicle operating status. In this way, MMC's proprietary system both equalizes the load on the four tires by adaptively regulating the yaw moment that acts on the body and improves cornering performance without inducing any sense of deceleration. When accelerating through a corner, AYC reduces understeer by transferring torque to the outer wheel; when decelerating in a corner, AYC enhances stability by transferring torque to the inner wheel. AYC also improves traction on surfaces with low or split friction coefficients. And you can import the Evo VII into the US from www.evolutionimports.com and it passes US emissions. The Evo will have the Yaw on it and Center Differential on it.

thats right man they are bringing the lancer evo 8 to america in december and they will be around 35k with around 280 torque and horse power. and that is the truth i talked with the dealer today. spread the word. and reply to me if you have more info

Yeah! A lot of people can't wait to see the Lancer EVO in US! There are also discussions going on in http://LancerEvolutions.com

WRX VS.LANCER EVO.

Where do you get off saying that a LANCER EVO wil "KILL" a WRX STI. I was in japan with a friend 2 years ago teaching english (2years), and seen all kinds of lancers and wrx's...and let me tell you none kill eachj other some are faster than others, but thaty depends on what kind of mods it has. There was a guy who had a really fast lancer with almost everymod you can think of on it.......and he got SHALACKED HARDCORE by a fully done STI version 6...they began the race off by running the 1/4 mile (lancer lost by 2 1/2 cars...then into the first street corner where the WRX agian beat the lancer.....then i couldnt see any more of the race....they only place where the lancer would keep up was on straights...other than that IT'S JUST A SCOOBY SNACK. Although i must admit that some lancers are very fast, but they weigh alot....Thats why they need more power.


PEACE

You didn't understand what I said. An Evolution VII would kill a US version Impreza WRX. Not the WRX STi that is in Japan, Europe, and Australia. I already stated that the WRX STi beats the Evo VII in handling and performance, did you not see that. Read carefully, the EVO would be a US WRX. Peace out.