Been awhile since I had anything worth talking about, the most exciting race Ive had in two months was a couple of nerds in an s13 and s14 240 tag-team fags who thought 150bhp + RWD = teh win.

Today was a bit more dissapointing but at least the cars where faster.
I was on my way to work on the TPK with almost no cars on the road at all. Im cruising along and constantly checking my rearviews (for cops...its a habit o mine) when I catch site of a car comming up fast on me, A big car. It had an old school grill with a big ass chrome SS on the middle of it.
I figure its a Chevelle or something and make way to the side to let him pass. The dude swings around and comes up on the opposite side that I had given him. He pulls dead even with me and its an old man in a El Camino SS fully restored and he is giving me this look of disgust and yelling some crap at me that I cant hear over the radio and what not.
All of a sudden his exhaust note gets louder and he starts to try and pull away. Im like "Fuck this, come get u some" I drop to 4th and match and start to pull. By 6K I had him two cars back and shifted to 5th and took it up to 125mph, I look back and the dude is like 5 cars back giving me the finger.

Then right out from behind him a Mustang pulls out. I was doing like 100 by now so I slow down figure I'll let him catch up. Its a 66, 67 fastback also resotred. The guy was wearing shades and a cap with a Marines ensignia. He looked younger but his mustache was graying out.
He floors it and I floor it without even shifting down. We stayed matched till I hit about 100mph again and start pulling. By 120 I had 4 cars or so on him.

A third guy pulls out in a Caprice Classic. I'm thinking what the fuck is up with all these bald eagles?
I didnt even wait for him to match me I just gunned it till they where all three little specs in the rearview.

hahahahahah, RANDOM!

Good kills man, keep em' comming!

Funny about the old guy giving you the bird!

Most old men don't think anything without a v8 can be a fast vehicle. Sadly, they are stuck in their stupid ways.

Also, not all the old muscle cars from back in the day were blazing fast. Most of them were low 14 - mid 15 sec cars and arent very good for highway racing because they have the aerodynamics of a brick on wheels.

But we all know how easy and cheap it is to make an old muscle car into a 12 sec beast, plus they look so good.

Nice kills Musashi. Now go make a list in my damn thread and add these to it!!!

nice race mang, lucky basterds with the sunny winter weather, bleaggghhh...there were probably a small muscle car get-together or something, i think old men in muscle cars is the l88t, i always get scared when i see a muscle car

[QUOTE=rice(er) lucky basterds with the sunny winter weather, bleaggghhh...[/QUOTE]



It's been well over 80 degrees here for over a week. It's been so hot I've been running my a/c. Want to trade winters for a weekend? I'm tired of this inferno.

a lot of muscle car guys like to keep the car in its original state nowadays to, like if they restore a old 60s mustang that has a 200ci I6 in it, they might keep it to keep the cars value.

hehe, it's been 72 here all week. Cool mornings, warm afternoons, slightly chilly evenings.

Perfect race weather.

^ WOW. its been under freezing here in OHIO all week. reading this post makes me want to get to somewhere warm sooo bad.

^ WOW. its been under freezing here in OHIO all week. reading this post makes me want to get to somewhere warm sooo bad.


I havent seen snow in 4 years. Now how do you feel?

:lol:

I havent seen snow in 4 years. Now how do you feel?

:lol:

i love snow :dunno:

g-man- where are you in ohio?

nice races, but musashi can you do me a favor? Us poor guys who only have small 15 inch monitors that only support 1024X768 cant handle your sig. Everytime you post in a thread i have the scroll sideways like 3 inches. Could you downsize it a bit please?

here's something to look at

50 FASTEST MUSCLECARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS GEAR SOURCE
1 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/65
2 1966 Corvette 427 12.8@112 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.36 CD 11/65
3 1969 Road Runner 12.91@111.8 440 Six BBL 390 4-Speed 4.10 SS 6/69
4 1970 Hemi Cuda 13.10@107.12 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/69
5 1970 Chevelle SS454 13.12@107.01 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.55 CC 11/69
6 1969 Camaro 13.16@110.21 427 ZL1 430 4-Speed 4.10 HC 6/69
7 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.70 HC 5/68
8 1970 Road Runner 13.34@107.5 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
9 1970 Buick GS Stage I 13.38@105.5 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
10 1968 Corvette 427 13.41@109.5 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.55 CD 6/68
11 1969 Charger 500 13.48@109 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 4.10 HR 2/69
12 1968 Charger 13.50@105 426 Hemi 425 automatic 3.23 CD 11/67
12 1970 Plymouth Superbird 13.50@105 426 Hemi 425 ? ? ?
14 1968 Road Runner 13.54@105.1 426 Hemi 425 automatic 3.55 CD 1/69
15 1973 Trans Am 13.54@104.29 455 SD 310 automatic 3.42 HR 6/73
16 1969 Corvette 13.56@111.1 427 L88 430 automatic 3.36 HR 4/69
17 1969 Super Bee 13.56@105.6 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 4.10 HR 8/69
18 1969 Boss 429 Mustang 13.60@106 Boss 429 375 4-Speed 3.91 HC 9/69
19 1970 Challenger R/T 13.62@104.3 440 Six Pack 390 automatic 3.23 CC 11/69
20 1970 Torino Cobra 13.63@105.9 429 SCJ 370 automatic 3.91 SS 3/70
21 1968 Biscayne 13.65@105 427 L72 425 4-Speed 4.56 SS 4/68
22 1964 Polara 500 13.70@107.37 426 4V 365 4-Speed 3.23 HC 2/64
23 1969 GTX 13.70@102.8 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 MT 1/69
24 1969 Dart 440 13.71@105 440 4V 375 automatic 3.55 CC 5/69
25 1971 Road Runner 13.71@101.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CC 1/71
26 1971 Cuda 13.72@106 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 SS 4/71
27 1971 Corvette 13.72@102.04 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.36 CL 8/71
28 1971 Super Bee 13.73@104 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 12/70
29 1968 Hurst/Olds 13.77@103.91 455 W-30 390 automatic 3.91 SS 8/68
30 1970 Hemi 'Cuda 13.78@101.2 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 MT 9/69
31 1968 Firebird 13.79@106 400 HO 335 4-Speed N/A HR 3/68
32 1967 Corvette 13.80@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.55 HR 5/67
33 1965 Catalina 13.80@106 421 6V ? 4-Speed 3.42 CD 3/65
34 1969 Super Bee Six Pack 13.80@104.2 440 Six BBL 390 automatic 4.10 CD 7/69
35 1971 Boss 351 Mustang 13.80@104 Boss 351 330 4-Speed 3.91 MT 1/71
36 1966 Satellite 13.81@104 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CD 4/66
37 1969 Coronet R/T 13.83@102.27 440 4V 375 4-Speed 4.10 SS 4/69
38 1968 Cyclone GT 13.86@101.69 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 8/68
39 1969 Nova SS 396 13.87@105.1 396 4V 375 automatic 3.55 HR 7/69
40 1969 Shelby GT-500 13.87@104.52 428 CJ 335 4-Speed 3.91 SS 9/69
41 1969 Cyclone Cobra Jet 13.88@101.7 428 CJ 335 automatic 4.11 MT 1/69
42 1970 Olds 4-4-2 W-30 13.88@95.84 455 W-30 370 automatic 3.42 CC 11/69
43 1962 Corvette 13.89@105.14 327 FI 360 4-Speed 4.10 HR 1/62
44 1969 Barracuda 13.89@103.21 440 4V 375 automatic 4.10 SS 8/69
45 1962 Catalina 13.90@107 421 4V ? 4-Speed 4.30 MT 5/62
46 1969 Mustang Mach I 13.90@103.32 428 CJ 335 automatic 3.50 CL 3/69
47 1967 GTO 13.90@102.8 400 RA 360 automatic 4.33 CL 10/67
48 1970 Trans Am 13.90@102 400 RA 345 4-Speed 3.91 HR 2/70
49 1970 Torino Cobra 13.99@101 429 4V ? 4-Speed 3.91 MT 2/70
Legend: CC=Car Craft, CD=Car and Driver, CL=Car Life, HC=Hi Performance Cars, HR=Hot Rod, MCR=Muscle Car Review, MM=Mopar Muscle, MT=Motor Trend, SS=Super Stock

just for fun, to see and compare, of course this isnt all the imports like the evo-8 and so on



FASTEST IMPORT CARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS SOURCE
1 2001 BMW M Roadster 13.1@107.6 3.2 I6 315 5-Speed MT 4/02
2 2001 BMW M3 Coupe 13.2@106.9 3.2 I6 333 6-Speed MT 8/01
3 1993 Toyota Supra Turbo 13.4 3.0 V6 Turbo 320 - -
4 1995 Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR-4 13.5 3.0 V6 Turbo 320 - -
5 2000 Honda S2000 13.8@100.5 2.0 I4 240 6-Speed MT 2/00
6 1995 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 13.9 3.0 V6 Turbo - - -
7 1993 Mazda RX-7 R1 13.9 - - - -
8 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 14.2@94.4 2.0 F4 Turbo 227 5-Speed MT 1/02
9 1995 Toyota MR2 Turbo 14.8 - - - -
10 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 14.9 2.0 I4 Turbo - - -
11 2002 Acura RSX Type S 15.1@94.7 2.0 I4 200 6-Speed MT 1/02
11 1994 Honda Prelude VTEC 15.1 @ 93 2.2 I4 190 5-Speed CD 6/94
13 2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse GTS Spyder 15.2@93.0 3.0 V6 210 5-Speed MT 4/02
14 1997 Acura Integra Type R 15.2 1.8 I4 190 5-Speed -
15 2002 Audi A4 Quattro 15.3 3.0 V6 220 6-Speed MT 2/02
16 1997 Acura Integra GS-R 15.5 1.8 I4 170 5-Speed -
17 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V 15.6@90.3 2.0 I4 175 6-Speed MT 4/02
18 1999 Honda Civic Si 15.7 1.6 I4 160 5-Speed -

^ thats pretty neat, but being one of my favorite cars, i think one is probably not in there that none of those sources tested i guess... i would think that the 1968 427 cammer mustang would have to be in atleast the top 20 if not top 10.

also these times were probably on old out of date tires to

exactly (bout the tires)

nice races, but musashi can you do me a favor? Us poor guys who only have small 15 inch monitors that only support 1024X768 cant handle your sig. Everytime you post in a thread i have the scroll sideways like 3 inches. Could you downsize it a bit please?


:werd:

^ thats pretty neat, but being one of my favorite cars, i think one is probably not in there that none of those sources tested i guess... i would think that the 1968 427 cammer mustang would have to be in atleast the top 20 if not top 10.

also these times were probably on old out of date tires to

The Ford 427 Cammer was never put into a Mustang. Infact, it never saw production.

Comments: Without a doubt the most powerful engine ever made, the Ford 427 Cammer was developed with the intention of taking on Chrysler's Hemis. Ford gave the 427 block new heads with hemispherical combustion chambers. To cap that, they fitted overhead camshafts -- one per cylinder bank -- which gave the engine its name and allowed it to rev to an unheard of 7,500 rpm. With the regular single four barrel carb, the "cammer" put out 616 bhp, but with dual four-barrels, it produced a massive 657 bhp. With this kind of power, the "cammer" 427 was totally unsuitable for street use. These engines were not sold to the general public, but about 50 examples were built, mostly for professional drag racers. Because of the low production volumes, NASCAR refused to accept the engine as a regular production option, and thus Ford couldn't use the engine to combat the Hemi's. This sealed this engine's fate and Ford discontinued it after 1965.

Ratings:
1x4bbl: 616bhp @ 7500rpm. 2x4bbl: 657 bhp @ 7500rpm, 550 lb-ft.


You must be thinking of the 428 Cobra Jet Mustangs.

On April 1, 1968, Ford unveiled perhaps its most famous line of engines, the 428 Cobra Jet. It was based on the regular 428 but included larger valve heads, the race 427's intake manifold, and an oil-pan windage tray. It had ram-air induction and breathed through a functional hood scoop. Output was listed at 335bhp but was rumoured to be around 410bhp. In fact, after Hot Rod magazine tested a 1968 Cobra Jet Mustang and achieved times of 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, and a 1/4 mile time of 13.56 seconds @ 106.64 mph, they declared it "the fastest running Pure Stock in the history of man." This was somewhat exagerated, but it helped boost the Cobra Jet's popularity with the buying public.
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^ check out the 1968 mustang, there were 427s put into that year only, and not many people knew it so they didnt buy that many. obviously with the things you posted they arent cammers though... but regardless, the 427 in the mustang (whether it be the cammer or not) and the 428 and 429 are all totally different engines. the 427 is by far the best. i thought it was a tuned down cammer, but they did make a ohv version too, so that could be what it was.

I've read somewere that the cammer was was originaly designed to beat the Hemi at the track. It said that it made 625ish hp with a single 4 barrel and 675hp with dual 4's.

^ check out the 1968 mustang, there were 427s put into that year only, and not many people knew it so they didnt buy that many. obviously with the things you posted they arent cammers though... but regardless, the 427 in the mustang (whether it be the cammer or not) and the 428 and 429 are all totally different engines. the 427 is by far the best. i thought it was a tuned down cammer, but they did make a ohv version too, so that could be what it was.

Yeah, you could get a 427 in a '68. 390hp, but they weren't OHV versions of the Cammer. It can't be. Two totally seperate concepts.

Just like the Chevy LT1(OHV) and LT5(DOHC) are two totally seperate engine designs.




I've read somewere that the cammer was was originaly designed to beat the Hemi at the track. It said that it made 625ish hp with a single 4 barrel and 675hp with dual 4's.

Yeah, I just posted that... two posts ago...

Comments: Without a doubt the most powerful engine ever made, the Ford 427 Cammer was developed with the intention of taking on Chrysler's Hemis. Ford gave the 427 block new heads with hemispherical combustion chambers. To cap that, they fitted overhead camshafts -- one per cylinder bank -- which gave the engine its name and allowed it to rev to an unheard of 7,500 rpm. With the regular single four barrel carb, the "cammer" put out 616 bhp, but with dual four-barrels, it produced a massive 657 bhp. With this kind of power, the "cammer" 427 was totally unsuitable for street use. These engines were not sold to the general public, but about 50 examples were built, mostly for professional drag racers. Because of the low production volumes, NASCAR refused to accept the engine as a regular production option, and thus Ford couldn't use the engine to combat the Hemi's. This sealed this engine's fate and Ford discontinued it after 1965.

Ratings:
1x4bbl: 616bhp @ 7500rpm. 2x4bbl: 657 bhp @ 7500rpm, 550 lb-ft.


:thumbsup:

Good kill. Hope you buy an SRT-4 again. That will make for some more impressive kills.

Yeah, you could get a 427 in a '68. 390hp, but they weren't OHV versions of the Cammer. It can't be. Two totally seperate concepts.

after re-reading my post i can see how you thought i said the cammer and ohv 427s were same design... thats not what i meant though, i knew they were different motors. besides i dont see how it would be possible to convert a ohc to ohv... where would you put the pushrods.

I've read somewere that the cammer was was originaly designed to beat the Hemi at the track. It said that it made 625ish hp with a single 4 barrel and 675hp with dual 4's.

the 427 may not have had a shot in nascar, but it was in the gt40 that won lemans 3 years in a row :sunglasse

the 427 may not have had a shot in nascar, but it was in the gt40 that won lemans 3 years in a row :sunglasse


My god man... where do you get your Ford History from? www.nottruefordhistory.com (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=53b10678841d9b5bb300c48c0266d4d9)


The Mk1-MkIV Ford GT40 (1964-1967) was not powered by the 427 Cammer. It was powered by the same 427 OHV motor that Ford factory NASCAR teams used. And, as we know, the Cammer was never allowed to run in NASCAR.

In 1968, the FIA switched the class to run on 5 Liter motors, so the 7 Liter 427's were phased out plus, Ford had proven that an American car could not only beat Ferrari but win at Le Mans and they sold off thier cars to private teams such as Gulf Oil Co., the GT40s were now forced to use 302ci motors. In 1969, the FIA again limited the engine displacement and the GT40 was retired from racing.


Although, I found this small tid bit of info:
Around 126 Ford GT-40's were producing during the production life span. During this time a wide variety of engines were used to power the vehicle. The MKI used a 255 cubic-inch Indy 4-cam, a 289 and 302 small block. The 289 was by far the most popular, producing between 380 and 400 horsepower. When the MKI returned during the 1968 and 1969 season it was outfitted with a 351 cubic-inch Windsor engine. The MKII came equipped with a 427 cubic-inch NASCAR engine. The third generation, the MK-III, had 289 cubic-inch engines. The final version, the MK-IV all were given 427 cubic-inch power-plants.

Not exaclty a 427 Cammer... but I'd never heard of that motor before. Must do more reading...

off I go...

My god man... where do you get your Ford History from? www.nottruefordhistory.com (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=53b10678841d9b5bb300c48c0266d4d9)


The Mk1-MkIV Ford GT40 (1964-1967) was not powered by the 427 Cammer. It was powered by the same 427 OHV motor that Ford factory NASCAR teams used. And, as we know, the Cammer was never allowed to run in NASCAR.

In 1968, the FIA switched the class to run on 5 Liter motors, so the 7 Liter 427's were phased out plus, Ford had proven that an American car could not only beat Ferrari but win at Le Mans and they sold off thier cars to private teams such as Gulf Oil Co., the GT40s were now forced to use 302ci motors. In 1969, the FIA again limited the engine displacement and the GT40 was retired from racing.


Although, I found this small tid bit of info:


Not exaclty a 427 Cammer... but I'd never heard of that motor before. Must do more reading...

off I go...

:banghead: i quit at life.

im gonna go do more reading too... im pissed now. its been a while since ive read that stuff. i did however know that they used a 289 and 302 in the gt40 also... so atleast i knew something. that link you posted isnt working for me, does it say that the mk-IV 427 is the ohv version to? i actually didnt know they used the 427 in nascar? i know for a fact that they used a 429, thats info coming straight from a ford book, so if its wrong then i think i will kill myself.

lol here's where i got the info from.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z1007/Ford_GT40%20Mark%20IV/default.aspx

heres some nice info on the cammer engine itself

http://www.me.mtu.edu/~prater/cammer.html

By now you may have guessed that the cammer is based on the multi- application 427 block. One of its various forms. I wish I could remember them all. Side-oilers, top-oilers, high-risers, medium-risers, and low-risers, among others. These mills came in various vehicles, including Galaxies, Fairlanes, Mustangs, Cougars, Mercury Marauders, Mercury Comets, AC Cobras, GT-40's, etc (Mike Greene). Regardless, the cammer itself was intended for racing only, but there are a few which have made it into the "street", making life a nightmare for, in many cases younger, but less vital, hemi's, LS6 454s, and even the boss 429.

so apparently it was based off the ohv 427. how loosely or closely based, idk.

oh yeah, the gt40 won 4 years in a row, i was wrong again :screwy: i got that mixed up with the 1,2,3 finish in 1966.

this website has some pics of the 255 indy 4 cam in the indycar, and the block. http://www.avonaero.com/Foyt%20Indy%20car.htm other than that i didnt find to much of anything on the engine, i was hoping to see a hp number.

Yeah I always thought that the GT40 used the 289 just like the original shelby cobra.

g-man- where are you in ohio?
I'm in Marion, it a couple o' counties north of Columbus.

Yeah I always thought that the GT40 used the 289 just like the original shelby cobra.

yup, but the ones that were really dominant were the 427's

I'm in Marion, it a couple o' counties north of Columbus.

oh ok, im just northeast of dayton in a town called medway, right where I-657 ends on the north

The 427 was a dominator of an engine for sure.

A more conprehensive list
http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm

It's been well over 80 degrees here for over a week

bleaggghhhhh......just look at my sig, snow snow everywhere nor a flake to melt! there's even snow on my car! pffffffffttttt, the parking lot was dry cuz they just salted it, bleeaaaggggghhhhh

you may have beat the mucle today but they still looked good losing lol nice kill

^You would say that wouldnt you Batman?

okay, I resized the sig, if its still to big let me know.

Im not getting an SRT-4 anymore, 1.they are all used by now and dogged out 2. I cant afford another car right now cause all my financing is going into resurecting a demon.

Edit: oh and thats a cute list there Young ol buddy, but I'd like to see how the numbers match up if we where to take all those cars and run them around the Nurgberg Ring.

Edit: oh and thats a cute list there Young ol buddy, but I'd like to see how the numbers match up if we where to take all those cars and run them around the Nurgberg Ring.

they are muscle cars... most of them wouldnt do so hot, corvettes and the cobra on the list would own all of them, shelby mustangs wouldnt do bad tho

nice kills musashi

are you kidding me musashi? 1. your car is not stock(i presume from what ive read of your posts) 2. as mentioned earlier these cars were probably restored to stock, as they are viewed as more valuable (thats just gay). of course your car is gonna own these cars, especially at highway speeds. the top end on your engine is probably a whole hell of alot stronger than on these muscle cars, after all they most likely have hell ofa of lot of low end torque. take them from a stand still, they will most likely hand your ass to you. anyways. congratulations on the kills either way, a kills a kill.

^You would say that wouldnt you Batman?

okay, I resized the sig, if its still to big let me know.

Im not getting an SRT-4 anymore, 1.they are all used by now and dogged out 2. I cant afford another car right now cause all my financing is going into resurecting a demon.

Edit: oh and thats a cute list there Young ol buddy, but I'd like to see how the numbers match up if we where to take all those cars and run them around the Nurgberg Ring.


Um yes i would say that seeing as i did say it ..?!?!? are you mental?
dont make me hit the button that activates my cars wings.

are you kidding me musashi? 1. your car is not stock(i presume from what ive read of your posts) 2. as mentioned earlier these cars were probably restored to stock, as they are viewed as more valuable (thats just gay). of course your car is gonna own these cars, especially at highway speeds. the top end on your engine is probably a whole hell of alot stronger than on these muscle cars, after all they most likely have hell ofa of lot of low end torque. take them from a stand still, they will most likely hand your ass to you. anyways. congratulations on the kills either way, a kills a kill.

Well the only things Ive done to the car to add hp is a custom cat-back, intake and light weight crank pulley. everything else is suspension work.

And Im glad your not surprised I beat them, for the most part 95% of the people on this forum think 3000GTs are slow. I had people surprised I beat a Mazda 3....A FUCKING MAZDA 3!
I mean sure I dont run 13s but shit at least I hold down low 15s!
There was even a dude claiming his stock 170hp Ralliart Lancer was as fast or faster then me.

thats at least 3 people that have a clear picture of my car's performance now. :shakehead

Well the only things Ive done to the car to add hp is a custom cat-back, intake and light weight crank pulley. everything else is suspension work.

And Im glad your not surprised I beat them, for the most part 95% of the people on this forum think 3000GTs are slow. I had people surprised I beat a Mazda 3....A FUCKING MAZDA 3!
I mean sure I dont run 13s but shit at least I hold down low 15s!
There was even a dude claiming his stock 170hp Ralliart Lancer was as fast or faster then me.

thats at least 3 people that have a clear picture of my car's performance now. :shakehead


Shit man... calm down. Ain't nobody in here saying you're slow. Calm down, take a breath.

Maybe a chill pill or two.

:smokin:

MY CAR ISNT ON THE LIST!!! WTF!?

oh well, no love for the 3g's

^You would say that wouldnt you Batman?

okay, I resized the sig, if its still to big let me know.

Im not getting an SRT-4 anymore, 1.they are all used by now and dogged out 2. I cant afford another car right now cause all my financing is going into resurecting a demon.

Edit: oh and thats a cute list there Young ol buddy, but I'd like to see how the numbers match up if we where to take all those cars and run them around the Nurgberg Ring.

there street racing monsters, they dont need to turn:wink:

it was also in the F&F2, so u should have plenty bragging rights, just make sure to paint it purple. im not surprised my car isn't on there, but someday it might

purple wtf!? :( still no love

Shit man... calm down. Ain't nobody in here saying you're slow. Calm down, take a breath.

Maybe a chill pill or two.

:smokin:



Maybe a ban pill?



Nah, to harsh. Good kill on the old car though.

right on...good times

Yeah, I just posted that... two posts ago...




:thumbsup:


Oh oops I guess I'm not goo at paying attention to fine print. Isn't it also true that originally you only had to make 50 motors or cars to compete in NASCAR but when Ford came up with the Cammer they changed to rule to 500 and Ford just couldn't afford to produce that many.

nice races, but musashi can you do me a favor? Us poor guys who only have small 15 inch monitors that only support 1024X768 cant handle your sig. Everytime you post in a thread i have the scroll sideways like 3 inches. Could you downsize it a bit please?

for this year I am voting for you as "THE PERSON WHO COMPLAINS THE MOST".........Im pretty sure youll win......actually you will.....:cwm27: