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R.W.240
01-27-2006, 12:56 AM
http://media.putfile.com/Movie_00019185


Dragon Force kicks your face in.

Hit_N_Run-player
01-27-2006, 01:24 AM
the white S13 is you right? Nice vid, and that S14 looked like it was having trouble getting sideways, but that only showed one drift of it..

R.W.240
01-27-2006, 01:31 AM
We were all having problems. I don't have Powersteering or a diff and Stew just went to N/A KA and lame VLSD.


The White Black S13 is mine.
The Red one is Darnell (lilredstiffy)
The White S14 is Stew (Johnny5)

Hit_N_Run-player
01-27-2006, 01:39 AM
not having PS must suck, i love having powersteering. And why dont you have a diff? I thought you had a 2way? I still think they were cool drifts, better than i can do.

57r337.Dr1f73r
01-27-2006, 02:04 AM
Nice vid R.W. and ya its hard withought power steering I tried messin around in my friends 280z and I got my thumbs a couple times.

and I have a question on drifting if I could, i've been messing around with the whole shift lock thing and I just wanna be sure i'm doin it right, you just come into a corner too fast and drop a gear dump the clutch then power through it right? or is it more of a rough heel toe downshift?

I've got an open diff too i'm starting to hate it so I think later on when it gets closer to summer i'll wheld it.

TatII
01-27-2006, 03:36 AM
nice driving. looks fun as hell, but too bad i don't have money to drift since it puts so much wear and tear on the car.

R.W.240
01-27-2006, 03:36 AM
I've got a welded sitting in my garage right now... I'm gonna throw it in in a couple of days. I'm praying to god I have a VLSD so I can sell it to some idiot for big money. One day I'll prolly spring for a legit diff like a Cusco MZ or ATS Deftforce but right now 21$ welded is the most effective diff for me.


shift lock is down shifting without matching revs you just let the RPM fall and shock the tires loose by forcing the RPM back up.

I've never done it. Its been clutch kick, feint or mid corner power over for me since powersteering is a bitch for entry.

57r337.Dr1f73r
01-27-2006, 03:59 AM
Ya that's what I thought just drop a gear an dump the clutch, I’m messin around with it cuz I’m getting pretty bored with clutch kicking. It's pretty easy to get the back end out shift locking I’m just having trouble keeping it there, I’m probably just not giving it enough gas though.

And I’m looking into starting to get some suspension stuff.
I'm thinking JIC coilovers, Cusco sway bars, Nismo power brace, Cusco 3 point rear strut bar (I already have the front bar), etc......

I'm having trouble feintin though, there wasn't enough room in the abandoned parking lot I used to practice in, plus all the other high school guys started using the area to just powerbrake with their auto's and the cops have suddenly started paying attention.

I found a new place its a semi truck loading area out in the industrial district I think next time it rains I’m gonna go out and try to get the feinting thing down and work on smoothing out my recoveries.

Oh and the roll center adjusters thing confused me a bit. Sry I’m trying to leech offa your knowledge here but I’m just trying to better understand my suspension so I can set it up better.

An thanks for helpin me out

nissan_240sx
01-27-2006, 05:32 AM
nicee vid

R.W.240
01-27-2006, 01:57 PM
Ya that's what I thought just drop a gear an dump the clutch, I知 messin around with it cuz I知 getting pretty bored with clutch kicking. It's pretty easy to get the back end out shift locking I知 just having trouble keeping it there, I知 probably just not giving it enough gas though.

And I知 looking into starting to get some suspension stuff.
I'm thinking JIC coilovers, Cusco sway bars, Nismo power brace, Cusco 3 point rear strut bar (I already have the front bar), etc......

I'm having trouble feintin though, there wasn't enough room in the abandoned parking lot I used to practice in, plus all the other high school guys started using the area to just powerbrake with their auto's and the cops have suddenly started paying attention.

I found a new place its a semi truck loading area out in the industrial district I think next time it rains I知 gonna go out and try to get the feinting thing down and work on smoothing out my recoveries.

Oh and the roll center adjusters thing confused me a bit. Sry I知 trying to leech offa your knowledge here but I知 just trying to better understand my suspension so I can set it up better.

An thanks for helpin me out

A) JIC Suspension is bad quality and overpriced. Avoid at all costs. For that price range get Silk Road, KTS or Buddy Club.

B) If your having problems keeping the rear end out its probably that your not commiting enough (which is hard to get used to on the street) once your going on a open diff you need alot more throttle input than if you have a LSD.

C) Austin sucks for practice, the private airport got wise and got a security guard and the other giant parking lot is literally 100ft away from a police department.

D) Don't worry about roll center and rollcenter adjustment for drifting at all.

orestes
01-27-2006, 02:17 PM
doin the damn thing

driftking777
01-27-2006, 03:09 PM
wow not bad at all R.W. here in SD were working on getting another drift event togather in a lot that is bigger than our previous lot (small parking lot) so we can actually do some nice high speed stuff...getting tired of going parking lot to parking lot around here for practice...but this summer i will have some vid of my new car drifting...that is..once it gets here :(

Hit_N_Run-player
01-27-2006, 05:58 PM
Ya that's what I thought just drop a gear an dump the clutch, I’m messin around with it cuz I’m getting pretty bored with clutch kicking. It's pretty easy to get the back end out shift locking I’m just having trouble keeping it there, I’m probably just not giving it enough gas though.

And I’m looking into starting to get some suspension stuff.
I'm thinking JIC coilovers, Cusco sway bars, Nismo power brace, Cusco 3 point rear strut bar (I already have the front bar), etc......

I'm having trouble feintin though, there wasn't enough room in the abandoned parking lot I used to practice in, plus all the other high school guys started using the area to just powerbrake with their auto's and the cops have suddenly started paying attention.

I found a new place its a semi truck loading area out in the industrial district I think next time it rains I’m gonna go out and try to get the feinting thing down and work on smoothing out my recoveries.

Oh and the roll center adjusters thing confused me a bit. Sry I’m trying to leech offa your knowledge here but I’m just trying to better understand my suspension so I can set it up better.

An thanks for helpin me out

Your in gresham right? You found a spot to go drive at? Im in Vancouver, but my did lives in Gresham/Fairview. You should hit me up with a PM, we should go drive there.

R.W.240
01-27-2006, 08:21 PM
VLSD owns open diff so bad its not even funny so stop your hateraide son, especially when its free..

Owning a Open isnt saying much.

My welded cost 15$ and a Cheeseburger. VLSDs cost 150$ for some busty 160k one.

The only good VLSD is a shimmed one.


shift lock is going to OWN your universal joints, what do I know though I just work on that kind of stuff, listen to some 16 year old who watches Initial D first!!! That sends a nice jolt to the entire drivetrain system, say what you want but I hope u like messing around with 2 14mm wrenches, I sure as F don't... Import Driveshaft fastener setup=gayness(Nissan, Toyota, Isuzu, Mitsu) U-joints are just the weakest part and hopefully and usually that is what gives first... although sometimes its the clutch disc that shatter right off the input splines, or the input shaft itself, but Nissan has a good design on that so its unlikely... if u drive another type of manufactuer watchout.... I've seen this stuff happen numerous times.....

revmatching owns, theres a reason why it feels so nice and smooth, there are other ways to drift, try picking on practicing some that don't fuck up your car as badly.

Huh? they're U joints? if it breaks find a whole new driveshaft for 10$ and go about your business. And if people can run 1.4 60fts on the stock R200 Axles your good to go on a 205/50 clutch kick.

The only way to initiate quickly is to shock the tires... You can do the lame mid corner power over like I was doing all day but that shit is just that - LAME.

There are two things you'll kill faster in drifting, powersteering pumps and clutches. Everything else is gonna wear just as fast as if your doing old man autocross.

XeVeNskyLiNE
01-28-2006, 02:10 AM
Meh, here we go again.

FYI, shift lock will fuck your tranny to hell and back faster than all the other drift techniques if you're doing it on dry roads . Best to shift lock when the ground is wet so it won't be so hard on the drivetrain.

Oh ghyeah, hey R.W. I got some good news and some bad news, or maybe just good news all together. My friend told me that there isn't gonna be anymore Texas Drifts. The upside is that they might be moving it to Texas Motor Speedway. Sounds kinda badass because it'll be ALOT bigger in terms of people who go, but then again that's kind of a downside to me. Alot of people mean alot of jackasses, TX Drift was cool as hell to me last time.

nissan_240sx
01-28-2006, 02:17 AM
Meh, here we go again.

lol

R.W.240
01-28-2006, 03:29 AM
i beg to differ on that....

it is simple concept that parts in the drivetrain are seing the immediate rise in torque, which tries to shear things in a reaction. Every action has an equal reaction. When you put in that welded diff, something else, or that, is going to take a lot of abuse.... thats not my opinion, thats not anyone elses opinion, thats just the plain truth. Something has to and will give.


Driveshaft for 10 bucks? ya ok buddy, and here you are talking all high and mighty that only the most badass parts are worth buying and your trying to nig rig, srry, everything on perhaps the most important aspect of your car....

thats a god damn shame


when u know the difference between a good drivetrain, a stock one, and a shit put together junkyard part one.... you let me know

and just because one person did something a couple times doesn't mean everybody's car will put up with that same thing for ever... just cause your butt buddy who u sack ride(thats just fucken great, like how u always try to make fun of me in the same way for sticking up for some local v8 powered guys, now your doing the same shit for this dude "kuah") made a few passes at 10 seconds doesn't mean the drivetrain is invincble and will do it forever....... do it a thousand times and report back to me on what you think of the SMALL nissan drivetrains.

I will refrain from saying anything else hurtful about your setup for the time being

Fogive me for not using a Carbon Fiber Driveshaft on my car that will never see over 350whp.

Point in fact people do this shit all the time and have no problems. I haven't heard of ANYBODY breaking driveline parts because of a welded diff... and whens the last time someone said "I drifted and my driveshaft fell out"? yeah... probably never unless it was some rusted heap.


Kuah? who said I was talking about Kuah? I've seen Kuah break an Axle Stubb and a shitty poly motor mount. But Im not using an R230, Launch control or a 10in slick so thats about as irrelevant as it gets. Im talking about every IRS 240 I've seen in the 10s. You act like running anything other that shitbox oem bushings and a VLSD is gonna make your car explode.

Cliff Notes: Im not the first person on the planet to daily a Welded. Fucking Half of Dallas and Houston and the rest of U.S. 240 owners do it. its 90% of what a Clutch type can offer at 2% of the price.


Oh ghyeah, hey R.W. I got some good news and some bad news, or maybe just good news all together. My friend told me that there isn't gonna be anymore Texas Drifts. The upside is that they might be moving it to Texas Motor Speedway. Sounds kinda badass because it'll be ALOT bigger in terms of people who go, but then again that's kind of a downside to me. Alot of people mean alot of jackasses, TX Drift was cool as hell to me last time.

Yeah, they don't have anything on their site. Whatever, Daily Drifter / Houston is ballin hard this year.


17th - Formula D Qualifier practice (Racetrack in Galveston)
18th - Formula D Qualifier (Gulf Greyhound)
19th - No Problems Raceway Import Faceoff. (BFE louisiana)

Im gonna drive the feeder practice and hopefully the one at NPR. My PS bracket should be in in 2-3 weeks so I need to start collecting wheels and tires. I'll probably trailer my car... going out of state for an event is serious business.

P.S. Everyone knows there will never be any drifting at TWS... its too big anyway and the owners a kike. (he thinks it will chew up the asphalt.)

Skylindrftr
01-28-2006, 04:57 AM
A while a go benson hsu broke jdmrice's driveshaft in a clutch kick drift, but that's that only time ive heard of that happening really...
and leave your rascist comments out...

57r337.Dr1f73r
01-28-2006, 05:35 AM
lol and I have shitty ass 195 tires so it's not that hard to spin them. I'm hopeing to find some 15x7.5 mesh rims (ssr reverse mesh or something like that) with anywhere from +15 to 0 offset they don't cost much and I think they look cool. But then again I知 broke right now so I値l be waiting for tax returns and I知 gonna pick up more hours at work.


and SR20DETpower
I hope your not referring to me as that "some 16 year old who watches Initial D first!!!"

1 If you are that's kinda disrespectful.

2 I致e been coming here to learn plz don't insult me.

3 Granted I知 young (turnin 18 in a couple weeks!) but I知 trying to learn all I can so I can do whatever I want with my car the right way.

4 I practice in the rain most of the time to save my tires plus I don't have to go as fast. If you have any other way to practice drifting in a small space other than clutch kicking with my stock Ka24de motor and open diff plz gimme an example. (other than a e-brake pull) I知 messing around with the shift lock thing cuz when I was learning how to heel-toe downshift I spun out on this curvy ass road. I figured why not. :dunno:


Ooh and on my way home from work it was hilarious cuz I saw cops pulling over ricey ass Hondas everywhere. One guy floored it on one of the straight country back roads not knowing that the state trooper was the car right behind him.

R.W.240
01-28-2006, 02:32 PM
no man by no means am I referring to you, or anyone particular on this board, its a general statement.

when your u joints wear out the driveshaft does come apart.

oem bushings? your using sub par oem shit.... thats my point

worse then oem stuff, you got 15 year old rusty pos oem shit

rigging is all good for some performance, but you have to build a durable car that takes abuse, the drivetrain is not an area where u want to be a cheap ass about. If you really want me to give you abuot a hundred instances where welded diffs broke shit, just ask and I will if it means that much

cheap intake... badass,,, cheap exhaust... cool

cheap clutches, differentials, worn out rusty parts, and 15 year old junkyard oem shit= REALLY SHITTY


Man, you are so fucking rediculous its not even funny. The only cars I can think of in any Drift feild with custom driveshafts are the ones that have a motor swap that requires it.

YOU ARE FUCKING DUMB
-CARS DO NOT NEED CAM BEARINGS
-CARS DO NOT NEED BIG DOLLAR DRIVESHAFTS

Man, I really don't know if your just fucking with me to get me pissed off this is so retarded.


what a piece that car is, i thought byy the way you talk it woulda been much nicer and your drifts are the suck

Im no master and I self admit that, but with a vlsd and a stock s13 i can pull off some of that shit

ORLY?

How come you aren't then? Will your driveshaft fall out?

Until I see some footage of you doing something other than... wait... we've never seen your car. That must be because its stock and nobody cares about it?


Heres the part I want you to read... and since your a fucking dumb bitch I'll Bold it for you.

You are a fucking Idiot. You pick some obscure driveline problem and when someone calls you on it you try and blow it off as "I work in a driveshaft shop so it doesn't matter that I don't know what I'm talking about." Go suck a dick, people do what your womping about all the fucking time with no problems and the only way you've gotten away with it is posting all this misinformation is by doing it on a begineer forum where noone can argue with you.

XeVeNskyLiNE
01-28-2006, 04:27 PM
P.S. Everyone knows there will never be any drifting at TWS... its too big anyway and the owners a kike. (he thinks it will chew up the asphalt.)


Yea that's what I told him, but from whoever he heard it from they said TMS could be the next spot.

OT, the guy with the green S13 is now starting a project on his Hachi, KA powered no less. Not sure how that's gonna go, but if he gets that done this year I might be driving the S13 or Hachi at whatever drift event we can get too, if I haven't gotten my own drift peice by then that it.

R.W.240
01-28-2006, 05:43 PM
Yea that's what I told him, but from whoever he heard it from they said TMS could be the next spot.

OT, the guy with the green S13 is now starting a project on his Hachi, KA powered no less. Not sure how that's gonna go, but if he gets that done this year I might be driving the S13 or Hachi at whatever drift event we can get too, if I haven't gotten my own drift peice by then that it.

Why? I saw that his car got backed into and his diff broke on ProjectNissan?


Seriously, tell him to stay away from rollas... those things suck so much ass its not even funny.

57r337.Dr1f73r
01-28-2006, 05:51 PM
I kinda like the hachi's if I had the money i'd love to strip out a hatch and set it up as a pure track car. That is unless I could find a s12 hatch in decent condidtion.

XeVeNskyLiNE
01-28-2006, 07:59 PM
Why? I saw that his car got backed into and his diff broke on ProjectNissan?


Seriously, tell him to stay away from rollas... those things suck so much ass its not even funny.


Lol yea, he was in my car when I saw our other friend about to back into it. I had an "oh shit" moment and couldn't think fast enough to do anything. All it did was bend in the left rear quarter panel, it isn't too bad besides being cracked a bit. And yea, diff is still open, not sure what he's gonna do. Might just get a junkyard diff and weld that one.

About the Hachi, it was a free rolling chassis that's in pretty damned good shape. I think he's planning to SR the S13 whenever the money is right, so that's how the whole KA in the Hachi idea came up.

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