first of all the car in the picture is ugly

second i still think they should keep it american
next thing you know it wont be chevy,ford,and doge it will be toyota,honda,and nissan :shakehead it just makes me sick
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i like the competition, besides if theres one thing american companies know how to make its a pushrod v8 (heh right now they are all a ford design). toyota has little experience in it, but they do a great job on factory backed racing. dont worry though the american companies wont get slaughtered. thats such a bad misconception. they make so much money off nascar its rediculous, they wont slouch. chances are toyota is gonna copy the same engine design everyone else is using, maybe with a tweak here and there.

More inmages of the camary http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2007toyota.htm

I heard on speed news, Honda is coming 2008 and Nissan trucks 07 or 08. They need to bring BMW and Mercedes.

the engines aren't really a "Ford design", all the blocks are custom built.

Toyota will build the engines just as any other NASCAR engine builder would, from scratch. Hell, there's a good chance they'll hire an established company to build their engines for them, that is if they decide to supply their teams with engines (Ford, Chevy, and Dodge don't).

I heard on speed news, Honda is coming 2008 and Nissan trucks 07 or 08. They need to bring BMW and Mercedes.
Like i said earlier honda applied for truck templets havnt her nething bout nissian as for bmw and mercedes don't hold your breath. BMW just bought there own f1 team merceds is backing mclaren and they both have DTM

the engines aren't really a "Ford design", all the blocks are custom built.

Toyota will build the engines just as any other NASCAR engine builder would, from scratch. Hell, there's a good chance they'll hire an established company to build their engines for them, that is if they decide to supply their teams with engines (Ford, Chevy, and Dodge don't).

there won't be ne toyota backed teams btw

second i still think they should keep it american

Then we would only have Chevy & Ford, Dodge sure in the hell aint american anymore.

merceds is backing mclaren and they both have DTM

Mercedes does back a team, I forgot, it's called DODGE!

Honda doesn't have a pick-up truck, they got something they might think is a pick-up. First they need to make a real pick-up then worry about Craftsman Truck.

Dodge has been raicng and at time domnating in NASCAR long b4 there merger with Mercedes. As for honda its called the ridgeline and it does meet nascar qualifcation for the truck series also found this on a sear through jayski.com NASCAR is apparently working with Honda on an engine development operation for the NASCAR Technical Institute in Mooresville [NC],

well, according to a NASCAR.com poll, 46% of the people voted said "they do not like Toyota's decision to race Nextel Cup." Competition is what fuels the world. If it wasn't for competition, the automotive industry would be dull. The racing industry is a seperate entity of the automotive industry, but it still an off-shoot and has many similarities. If the Japs come in and compete with the Big 3, that's a huge marketing pit for them and will increase sales for them, since most people are brand-loyal.

Honda doesn't have a pick-up truck, they got something they might think is a pick-up. First they need to make a real pick-up then worry about Craftsman Truck.

i couldnt agree more, how much of a pathetic joke is it that they got truck of the year at the detroit auto show... thing has no torque!! thats all that matters in a truck.

Nascar should change their mind,pull toyota out including Dodge.Chrysler is not American owned now,German owned.If nascar lets any Nissan and Honda in,I am done watching Nascar racing

Nascar should change their mind,pull Toyota out including Dodge.Chrysler is not American owned now,German owned.If nascar lets any Nissan and Honda in,I am done watching Nascar racing
Wow what a racists and stupid statement. Why would quit watching? do you watch any other form of racing Le mans,Speed world challenge when teams from countries start competing the better the competition cause then not only does bran loyalty matter so does nationality.

Wow what a racists and stupid statement. Why would quit watching? do you watch any other form of racing Le mans,Speed world challenge when teams from countries start competing the better the competition cause then not only does bran loyalty matter so does nationality.

His comments weren't racist, he never mentioned anything about race. The competition isn't going to be any better when Toyota joins, the cars are equal as it is, and it's not like Toyota is going to have some advantage, they can only do so much to the cars, Nascar has basically put them in a box, which I think is a good thing. I will say that Toyota is doing it right, but no matter how much money they throw at the program they can't work outside of the box.

I still don't see how people can label any brand as "American" or "Japanese" or "European" anymore. Ford has a large car market not only in Europe, but in Australia as well. GM also has its own division down under, markets Cadillacs in Europe, and owns a Swedish automaker. Chrysler isn't even Chrysler anymore, it's Daimler-Chrysler. It's just as much European as it is American. As far as calling Toyota a "Japanese" car company, that's true, as far as the fact that Toyota originated in Japan, and has a Japanese car division. Fact of the matter is, the Camry is built in America, by American workers, and its part content is largely American as well. Most of Toyota's American market cars and trucks are similar in this regard, and are so far removed from their Japanese counterparts that you could hardly consider Toyota of Japan and Toyota of America the same brand anymore. The bottom line is that the Toyota that we have here is NO less American than Ford, Chevrolet, and Dodge.

This country-based brand loyalty has to stop.

So a Toyota Camry is no less American than the new Corvette Z06, or the new Dodge Viper (which is hand-built in Detroit), or the new Mustang?

Wow what a racists and stupid statement. Why would quit watching? do you watch any other form of racing Le mans,Speed world challenge when teams from countries start competing the better the competition cause then not only does bran loyalty matter so does nationality.

I wouldnt call it racism. I dont necessarily consider pride in your country to be racism. NASCAR is one of the few sports left in America that is purely American. I, personally, dont have a problem with Toyota, only because they brought plants here and gave work to American workers.

Personally, I think if pride is what is involved here, then the attitude should be "bring them all on, we'll kick their butts" instead of "it's our little club, we don't want your kind here".

Personally, I think if pride is what is involved here, then the attitude should be "bring them all on, we'll kick their butts" instead of "it's our little club, we don't want your kind here".

exactly what im saying

If I may deposit :2cents:

A- Toyota has seem to do just fine in the Truck series after everybody got in uproar then.

B- Honestly, I see the introduction of Toyota in the Cup series as a way for Dodge to sneak out the back door without anyone noticing. I don't know, all the problems and "expeiriments" by teams with the '04 Intreped vs. the Charger, teams not being confident with what they have, just seems like a WWE storyline to me, so obvious.

C- As for "all American", what happened to the "all American past time game" of baseball. Half the players out there now are foreign?