New Dodge Challenger concept

Jaguar D-Type
01-09-2006, 12:27 AM
It is off-topic, but there isn't a Dodge Challenger section.

The 1970 Dodge Challenger was a pony car that competed with the Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac Firebird, Ford Mustang, and the Mercury Cougar.

A new Challenger will likely debut in 2009.

Around 165,500 1970-1974 Dodge Challengers were built.

The 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T (Road and Track) was the high performance version and came with sport suspension.

1970 Challenger R/Ts are shown below.

Here is a 1970 Challenger R/T in Plum Crazy with a black top and interior, a 440 Six Pack, and a Hurst pistol grip shifter.

Dodge built the 1970 Challenger T/A to go racing in the Trans-Am Series.

It had a sport suspension, front and rear spoilers, increased rear camber to clear the wider rear tires and the 'megaphone' side exhausts (among the first production cars to use different sizes of front and rear tires) front disc brakes, and a matte-black fiberglass hood.

The race cars had a destroked version of the 340, but street versions took the 340 and added three of two-barrel carbs atop an Edelbrock aluminum intake manifold, creating the 340 Six Pack. Dodge rated at the 340 Six Pack at the same 290 hp rating as the original 340 engine (and mysteriously the same rating as the Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 and the Ford Mustang Boss 302), it actually made about 350 hp.

1970 Challenger T/A shown below

1970 Dodge Challenger from the Trans-Am Series

Why does it have "R/T" instead of "T/A" on the side?

The Dodge Challenger received a new grille for 1971.

This 1971 Dodge Challenger convertible originally had a 318 cubic inch V-8, but the car was restored and now has a 440 Six Pack and a shaker hood (it mounted to the air cleaner and stuck up through an opening in the was known as the "shaker" as it vibrated along with the engine).

1971 Challenger

Check this link for the new Dodge Challenger concept

2006 Challenger concept (

Jaguar D-Type
01-09-2006, 12:48 AM

Jaguar D-Type
01-09-2006, 02:53 AM

Jaguar D-Type
01-09-2006, 04:33 AM

01-09-2006, 07:14 PM
I think im starting to drool,..............ah, there we go.

Jaguar D-Type
01-09-2006, 09:52 PM
Trevor Creed, Senior Vice President, Chrysler Group Design

Jaguar D-Type
01-10-2006, 02:01 AM

01-10-2006, 02:24 PM
That thing would look amazing if it were a convertible.

01-11-2006, 12:17 AM
the hood vents pop open too ;) good to see they made a believeable retro-comeback. the charger is a nice car but it shouldnt have the charger nameplate. i think if they make this car the way it looks in those pics, itll be a home run.

Jaguar D-Type
01-11-2006, 03:28 AM
I like it a lot, but I'm not sure it would be a home-run if it weighed 4,160 pounds. This is attached to the new Challenger concept.

01-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Absolutely beautiful!!! I've seen pics of the Camaro concept and this thing blows the Camaro concept out of the water! Dodge would be nuts not to produce the Challenger.

Jaguar D-Type
01-12-2006, 03:26 AM

01-12-2006, 06:37 PM
They haven't made a rear wheel drive 2 door V8 car since when? 1983? I won't get too excited until I begin seeing them on the road.

If it still looks something like that when it comes out, still has 2 doors, and drives how I expect it should, I will order one.

Jaguar D-Type
01-12-2006, 11:44 PM
Here was news from exactly 7 months ago.

Likely Challenger: Dodge prepping a rear-drive coupe to take on Ford's Mustang

RICK KRANZ | Automotive News

Posted Date: 6/13/05

DETROIT -- Watch out, Ford Mustang. Dodge is preparing a challenger.

In fact, it's likely to be called Challenger.

Chrysler plans to resurrect a respected name from the pony car era for a rear-wheel-drive Mustang fighter, industry sources say. The car is expected in 2009 on the LX platform, the basis of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum and Charger.

"It is a two-door, essentially a competitor for the Mustang," says Catherine Madden, a production analyst for industry research group Global Insight. "They are really excited about it."

Madden says the sport coupe is planned to debut in 2009, when the next-generation LX vehicles are scheduled to be re-engineered and restyled.

"They would be able to make some additional investment in the platform, make some adjustments for that product" at that time, she says.

"The enthusiasm for that product," Madden says, is "very big."

Chrysler hopes to sell 60,000 to 70,000 of the cars a year, she says. An assembly site was not identified. Production of the 300, Magnum and recently introduced Charger is expected to fill Chrysler's Brampton, Ontario, assembly plant.

Chrysler officials are not talking about the car, but industry analysts say they are familiar with the plans.

Jim Hall, vice president of industry analysis at AutoPacific Inc., says he isn't sure Chrysler can pull it off. "They have a lot of stuff that has to be cleared off the table before they start playing around with that car," he says.

The redesigned 2005 Mustang has exceeded initial sales estimates. Ford expects to build 192,000 Mustangs this year, and most retail units are selling at a price near the sticker.

The 1970-74 Challenger was Dodge's answer to the original Mustang, as well as the Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac Firebird, Mercury Cougar, and AMC Javelin.

01-13-2006, 04:20 AM
thats how much the srt8 charger weighs and that thing hauls.

01-13-2006, 10:53 AM
Cool! Much, much, much, much, much better than the Camaro concept released by Chevy. My gripes about this car are two- 1- proportionally speaking, it's not quite as "low and wide" as the original, meaning it loses a little of the aggressiveness. The original E-body looks lower and wider, making it look a little meaner. 2- I have to wait to 2009 to get one.

It'll be interesting to see how much the interior changes to be "production ready".

01-13-2006, 12:20 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting goosebumps...

Ford hater
01-13-2006, 03:15 PM
The new challenger is the best looking car dodge has put out well one of them at least. :2cents:

Jaguar D-Type
01-13-2006, 07:22 PM
thats how much the srt8 charger weighs and that thing hauls.

4,000 pounds is way too much for a new pony car. While only a concept, the new Challenger is around 10 inches longer than the new Camaro concept.

Does anyone know if the edited information on old Dodge Challengers is correct?

01-15-2006, 01:04 PM
carbon fiber and led's shouldnt be on muscle still looks awesome, but the tuner stripes kinda killed it. no only if i had 50 grand to get the 392 with 500 horses in that bad boy. at least dodge is getting the picture somewhat now!! if they ever read this post: MAKE IT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS, MINUS THE NEW CRAP!!!

01-16-2006, 03:43 PM
Tuner Stripes??? muscle cars were the cars that made those stripes popular. i love the whole car. It is one of the best dodges IMO. I just hope they make it. There is also a more in-depth video at

Jaguar D-Type
01-17-2006, 02:09 AM

01-17-2006, 02:17 AM
Good it looks so friggin good. though not much room for a supercharger or turbo's.

01-17-2006, 04:56 PM
Do they have a date for its release?

01-17-2006, 06:13 PM
It's got rims like a truck. Truck grille. Ram head logos all over it too.

I'd change some things of course, but the car is all there. It'll probably get 2 more doors by the time production starts...

01-17-2006, 06:40 PM
2 more doors? no way. this is a muscle car man.

01-17-2006, 08:33 PM
so was the charger. not that its slow or anything but 4 doors.. :(

01-17-2006, 08:59 PM
so was the charger. not that its slow or anything but 4 doors.. :(
Yeah eh. They had this nice 2-door Charger all drawn up, and then suddenly these 4-door cars are sitting on the lots. That Charger was supposed to be a "muscle car" too. Maybe it is, but it's not a 2-door car...

01-17-2006, 10:40 PM
yea. i remember back in 99/00 when motor trend or car and driver or someone had an article written up on the prototype. it was a CNG car and it looked pretty awesome. i guess you could call the srt8 charger a muscle car but i dont really know so much about calling it a charger :(

01-18-2006, 02:22 AM
my piss por attempt for a photoshop...

01-18-2006, 07:01 AM
but the charger cant really be considered a "muscle car" now. (due to the 4 doors). and the whole reason they kept the SAME style as the old challenger was to reserect the older muscle car style, that people seem to have forgotten. dont get me wrong i like the charger, its just i dont consider it a muscle car. maybe they will throw on 4 doors, and if they do, i think people will be very disapointed. my $0.02,

Jaguar D-Type
01-22-2006, 04:33 AM

Jaguar D-Type
01-22-2006, 04:43 AM
Do they have a date for its release?

Dodge's new pony car will likely go into production in 2009.

01-23-2006, 12:57 AM
Dodge's new pony car will likely go into production in 2009.
I think that they know so many people would pay more to get it sooner so they will let it out as a 08' where that meens have your money buy late 07'.

01-25-2006, 11:13 PM
Look at the economy, is the new Challenger just that, a Challenger? With Ford cutting back seriously, GM constantly losing money, will the economy be stable for people to buy this type of car? Don't get me wrong, I'm absolutely in love with this car and wish it would come out no sooner than '08. But with our failing economy, though there's a big place for rear-drive musclecars, will there be enough customer around to afford it?

Jaguar D-Type
01-29-2006, 06:59 PM
There is still demand for rwd cars. Pontiac has over 15,000 orders for the Solstice and the turbocharged Solstice GXP hasn't gone on sale yet.

01-30-2006, 12:36 AM
not a musclecar just because its a fourdoor? i think thats a little harsh.

01-30-2006, 07:26 PM
not a musclecar just because its a fourdoor? i think thats a little harsh.
no it isnt...

02-03-2006, 11:59 AM
The new Challenger concept is awesome. Like most of you there are a few things I'd like different but overall its a sick, sick ride (for me its the headlights; why not expose them completely instead of tucking the very top up under the body). I hope this car see's the street.

This new revival is so cool. I love the new stangs and the new Cobra with the dual racing stripes looks insane. Ford hit a homer, Dodge surely will with this Challenger... I've never liked the new "Charger" - don't get me wrong its a nice car, my buddies brother got a silver one with the Hemi. Interior is beautiful and it really IS a nice, fast car. But its not a Charger. And 4 doors?? I will say that the R/T Charger's with the two-tone colouring (black spoiler, hood, etc.) makes the car look really muscular... I think because there's so much going on you gloss over the fact its a four door.

I agree that the new Camaro concepts look bland. Not enough retro perhaps. I can see they're trying to make it look like the original 1st gen but just doesn't seem to pull you in.

Can't wait to line up against these new cars on the street!!!
(Gotta lot of work to do though, 355 ain't going to cut it anymore... 385, 396 here we go)

02-12-2006, 02:48 PM
I really need to find out what the color code to that orange is. I have been looking everywhere. If anyone knows the color code please leave me link or the code. I would greatly appreciate it.

02-28-2006, 06:03 PM
I rem seeing on msn the new concepts, 2 from DC and the restyled camaro. It is exciting to get to live in an era where the 3 big muscle cars may infact be pounding the pavement and tearing up the roadways once again just as their ancestors did 30+ years ago. I still havent been able to pick up my jaw from scrolling through all these pictures of the challenger, hopefully DC wont slap 2 more doors on this thing before they release it. I mean ford at least kept the mustang true to its past.

My opinions on these new cars are right about with everyone elses, one quick glace at the new camaro and it to me looks like another hopped up caddy. The mustang is totally eye catching as is the challenger to which i have yet to stop looking. As far as the weight goes it seems a bit on the chubby side, the stang is close to 3200lbs, but id be curious to know how heavy the shelby mustang concept weighs for comparison. We all know that a heavy car can in fact be fast, just look at the M5 BMW. Yes it is a 4dr thats very luxurious, although we are talking about a concept that has a lot of eye candy features to go with. =)

Jaguar D-Type
03-04-2006, 05:39 PM
Here is Chris Bangle (head of BMW Group design) checking out the Challener concept. He doesn't like retro styling.

03-05-2006, 03:40 PM
only under very select circumstances would i believe a head of a euro car maker like an american stlye car. the viper yes, but americas roots has pretty well been in the stip, not the track. while euro has been about handling with lighter, big power small engine. i mean look at the ferraris in the late 60's and look at american cars.

so i really wouldnt expect a foreign head to like our styling... especially retro (since none of them have gone retro).

Jaguar D-Type
03-07-2006, 11:37 PM
Ferraris in the late 1960s weren't exactly affordable. The Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Daytona didn't handle as well as the other Ferrari of the same period.

The new BMWs look ugly, imo, compared to the older ones.

I find it interesting that it took Dodge to make a station wagon cool (read: hot rod looks) which is something BMW hasn't done in North America (no E34 M5 Touring, no E39 530i Touring, no E46 330i Touring, no E61 M5 Touring, etc.)

Michael Castiglione, principal exterior designer.

The Viper has bigger roots in sports car racing than drag racing (an RT/10 was race at Le Mans in 1994, won GTS class in 1998-2000 with a GTS-R, overall Rolex 24 at Daytona winner in 2000, several Championships won, winner of the 12 Hours of Sebring, 24 Hours of Spa, Petit Le Mans, and will now race all over the world with Comp Coupes this year).

04-25-2006, 05:07 AM
I don't mean to resurrect another old thread, but this car is absolutely beautiful to look at... in a "mean" sense. This is by far the best retro-concept I have seen come out of Detroit yet. I thought the new Mustang was a right-on concept and great platform, but this thing blows it right out of the water.

If you look at this car and adreneline doesn't rush through your pants, something isn't right. Makes me want to take my Neon out on the road and power-shift it all the way through redlines until it blows... tell my wife a different story and maybe she'll let me order one of these instead :-)

07-27-2006, 03:08 PM
Here is Chris Bangle (head of BMW Group design) checking out the Challener concept. He doesn't like retro styling.

That's OK. Hardly anyone liked Chris Bangle's BMW designs :grinyes:

08-21-2006, 09:28 PM
i see that nobody has posted on this thread in a while but i figured this was as good a place to post as any.i just got the most recent hot rod magazine and in the beginning it says that the challenger will be released in '08 as an '08 model.i dont think theres anything but rumors so far as to exactly the powertrain, but hot rod's sources say the SRT8 will be released first with the 6.1 and 6 spd and the smaller hemi will follow.but to put guesses about the production to rest, the car is going to be produced.thank god.

08-21-2006, 09:32 PM
sorry i just actually looked and saw all the other threads saying exactly what i just time ill look first.

Ford hater
08-23-2006, 01:33 PM
I would like the to see the thing come down in price and be as affordable as the older ones once were.:wave:

08-26-2006, 11:15 AM
Those rims are about 6 inches too big.

08-29-2006, 04:03 AM
I would like the to see the thing come down in price and be as affordable as the older ones once were.:wave:

The new one will have to comply with regulations almost 34 newer.

not going to happen

11-13-2008, 10:49 PM
I owned a 70 Challenger and I think it was the best looking muscle car ever made! I'm 50 now and I could easily afford to buy a new one but it just didn't come close enough to what I wanted to see in a redo. The car is nice but but the 70 just was so much nicer!

01-13-2009, 12:02 PM
The new 2009 Dodge Challenger is supper nice! I am, a very big fan! I saw this video review the other day on OMG the interior and overall performance blew me away. This is totally a retro muscle car!

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