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snake fe
12-20-2005, 07:33 AM
Hello all,

I encountered strange behaviour (read similar posts down there) - engine shuts off while driving. Then engine check lamp came on. I was able to turn it on after few minutes but 'check' remain lid. It happend again after I run 2-3 km (normal road driving, speed ca. 80kph, 3000rpm). Again I stopped an after few minutes I was able to start the engine. Then I drove more delicated manner not to exceed 2000-2100 rpm and I successfuly went 100km back home.

Today I visited a service. They have changed fuel filter (diesel) as they planned due to 60.000km inspection coming (currently is 56.000km). They also checked computer - error code D0009 - not defined :)
We went for a test drive and it happend again with testing device connected and running. Nothing strange noticed, the same error code returned and fine drive back with keeping rpm below 2000.
They said they did not know what's up. Does anyone know that code number or have any ideas?
Fuel filter is new, no water reported, immobiliser checked (today they actually programmed new remote control and registered a new key so they checked everything).

Regards
Rafal

snake fe
12-20-2005, 06:52 PM
Hello all,

I encountered strange behaviour (read similar posts down there) -

Hi again

In a meantime I get some news - they are going to disconnect CAN (or something that sounds like that) as they suppose (found similar issue in Holland) there is smth wrong with 4wd. They also wait for Korea to get an advice as European network never had that problem and this error code is 'not known' :)
So, again if you might have any hints I'd appreciate them. It is most likely that error comes from one of the computers and it is caused by any common communication bus problem.

I read some other forums and knowledge bases but now I get still - there is too much guessing. I will drop further news as soon as I get any.

Rafal

PS. I hope you manage with my English :)

snake fe
12-29-2005, 04:51 PM
Hello,

So, after several days they finally got a hint from Hyundai Korea (as I was told). According to manufacturer this code points on electronics amd means that there is a problem with pressure sensor or pressure monitor. Today they got it at workshop and replaced suspected ones (both, to be more specific).
Unfortunately they missed - nothing has chnged and I start to wonder if it makes a sense to stay with Hyundai if authorised service and manufacturer itself are not able to define a source of the problem.

For the New Year I go with Opel Vectra - for almost two weeks Hyundai can not fix its own car, Santa Fe 2003.

I was promised by service that they would do their best tommorow to isolate problem but I do not believe them any more. They are searching for something but they do not know what happens.
Santa Fe is now dangerous as it shuts off with no warning. What is interesting - it works perfectly at any revs when not in move (neutral gear)

To be continued.....

Rafal

twospirits
01-02-2006, 10:39 PM
hmmm this is quite interesting, you are the second person to mention that the vehicle just shuts off for no reason and yet I am curious to see what Hyundai finds out.

TS out

snake fe
01-03-2006, 06:19 PM
hmmm this is quite interesting, you are the second person to mention that the vehicle just shuts off for no reason and yet I am curious to see what Hyundai finds out.

TS out

So far - nothing. They put other Santa Fe aside and replace part by part with no effect. The longest distance they run was 13km after they changed fuel pump (high pressure) but then it happened again during a test drive.
So, they already checked fuel line, fuel pressure monitoring and measurement, fuel high pressure pump (complete with valves), all connectors, computer, they also connected LEDs to all sensors and valves to observe what happens. And they are still keeping my car :(
They say that main valve is being turned off but they do not why and how :). They put replaced parts to that other vehicle to ensure they are operational and OK. They all are fine:)

What's more - I was trying to get in touch with local Hyundai - on Friday (Dec 30th) it was not possible to call them, no one picked up the phone. Today I was unable to reach area manager responsible for service so I will try again tommorow. I am going to askt them how it is possible that they play guessing game with their own product.
They also did not respond for my e-mail sent last week using online fill-in form...

Yesterday Hyundai Poland told them to check wiring again - it seems that they really do not have an idea what is wrong. I will send another post as soon as I have any further news. And I am going to send an e-mail to Korea with some complaints. It really starts to make me ... you can imagine what :)

Regards
Rafal

twospirits
01-03-2006, 09:13 PM
That would drive me crazy. I tried finding out about that D0009 code, but unfortunently the Hyundai USA Webtech site does not list any information for Deisel vehicles nor does that D0009 code show up anywhere. Its a shame that Hyundai does not have a European version of the USA Webtech service.

A few other european members have had a similar problem of their diesel Santa Fe shutting down.
One member was because the fuel pump was leaking diesel fuel from the 3rd cap located below the intercooler. They replaced it and the problem never resurfaced.
One member had to replace the whole fuel filter block just before the high pressure pump as well as some valves. The member could not drive the vehicle except in first gear only and not for long.

I'll ask a few of my friends that have diesels over in the UK and see if they have any ideas.

TS out

snake fe
01-05-2006, 05:26 PM
Thanks for your effort. In a meantime I got some good news from the workshop. They seem to know what is wrong - it is a fuel injector.

After replacing all main units and creating doubled wiring to ensure there is no problem with any cable they replaced injectors and .... Eureka! :) ...they drove over 50 km and everything is fine.
Then they spent some more time to isolate problem (within four injectors) and they found that it was one of them that was faulty (of course that was the last they tested :) ) and was causing all that mess putting fuel on bypass and then shutting off the engine. Luckily my 2003 SantaFe is old enough to accept one injector to be replaced. As I was told all four injectors must be replaced in newer diesels as they are 'selected'. They are going to put everything together and check out again during a longer test drive but it seems that my Santa Fe comes back to papa next week.

Now, some info to share with you. As TS noticed there was no web info for Europe and diesel engines. However there is Korean site that might be interesting for you:
http://service.hyundai-motor.com/TechInfo/LTS/lts_main.asp

It is strange that it is neither listed by Google nor announced by Hyundai as it is in part available without any passwords. My problem is located in group 300 (fuel and engine), sub-group 353, OP Code 35310R00 - if you check NC CODEs there are both warning lights and engine stalling.

One more result of my research is VIN information website including all details of the car (options preinstalled, warranty record etc). I wonder if I can put it straight so I will send it to TS by e-mail :)

I will drop another post after all story comes to a hapy end. Or if it won't :)

And by the way: Happy New Year!

Rafal (Snake)

snake fe
01-08-2006, 08:18 AM
Hi,

I got my Santa Fe back yesterday. It is fixed and double checked. I drove over 100km in the city just to ensure they fixed it indeed.
No complaints :)

I hope that story will be helpfull for other owners including the one posting similar story below (assuming it was concerning CRDi engine).
I was lucky as it was possible to replace just one injector - in newer cars it is required to replace all four despite of their condition as they are selected to work in sets.

What is also interesting was a reason for that failure (suspected). The most probable one was ... fuel quality that caused mechanical problem (tear off). And that was a reason that computer was not able to diagnose it - electronically it was fine but mechanical damage caused injector to stuck, then presure drop that influenced overall fuel line behaviour reported by several monitors and causing unknown error code. That's the story.

See you!
Rafal

twospirits
01-09-2006, 09:44 AM
Glad everything worked out and thanks for those links, pretty cool.

TS out

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