well heres my latest project the bmw m3 been on it for 2 days now hopefully i will finish this one unlike my last 2 projects.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5319/1stprogress8wc.jpg

o and raytracer2k2 i finally figured out how to get the whit background lol.

sweeeet

Thats a good start. What method are you using to model?

extending not splin modelling i dont like splines, theyre just messy to me.

its time for some progress. well over half way, looking ok.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2015/2ndprogress25ut.jpg
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1207/2ndprogress32qk.jpg

That's fast modelling! You almost done with the car body. Only thing left are some details, interior, wheels. Keep it up.

well ive left school and i hant got a job yet lol, so i just got alot of time on my hands lol.

next update, ive made little progress ive been on it for about 4 hours straight and in that time it crashed and i hadnt saved it for a while, and i made ALOT or errors where i had to go back and fix. its all just body details.
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9892/3ndprogress24wv.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2542/3ndprogress0kf.jpg
Next on the list will be headlights!!!! im looking forward to them, i will post them as soon as i finish them but thats enough for tonight, in aus its 11:00 and im tired.
please post what you think theres been over 60 looks and only like 4 replys or sumthing.

cmon guys why arent you posting your thoughts??? i reply to yours now its your turn to reply to mine.

very nice work.

did you learn this in school or is it just a hobby?

Just a hobby, 2 years ago i was exploring my computer and i found this program called cinema 4d, i opened it and was like:wtf: then i searched some tutorials and got into cinema, then i thought there might be a beter program than this, got lightwave and been using it for about 6 months now (on and off).

pretty damn good for self-taught.

if you are looking for work, maybe you should look into finding a job in this field.

that IS NOT possible in aus to do this shit you need your "higher school certificate" (year 12) i went to year 10 and failed my "school certificate" so that means i find it hard to get a job anywhere at the moment im looking for work in a warehouse or a factory. there is the option of gong back to school but then i cant get a car.

finished the headlights finally, alot of errors again were i had to go back and fix them up. im pretty happy with it.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4552/4thprogress6gv.jpg
sorry i havnt put any materials on it yet (coloured) i will do that when i finish the whole body (just before i start the rims) hopefully that will be tonight.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2221/4thprogress26mt.jpg
hey raytracer maybe you could help me, what are those lines on the front bar?? and all those specals aswell, and how do i get rid of them? ive tried everything.

ive added the rear detail not very happy with the lights, the bumper and the quater panel doesnt meet up,im thrilled with those exhausts tho i think i did a real good job on them.
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/7299/6thprogress6be.jpg

why doesnt anyone reply????? is it the car? is it me?? what is it?

Ey man, got ur pm. Working on a weekend? :D
Let me see a wire of that bumper and quarter panel. You might be missing some rows of poly on the quater panel that you will need to add by bandsaw. The bumper was bandsawed that's why its sharp so you need to bandsaw the quarter panel, too. Remember, you can make a triangular poly if you dont want the bandsaw to go all the way around the body.

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/4372/picture0348hs.jpg
http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/9920/picture0336us.jpg
here they are, are you talking abvout the boot? im not too sure what you mean if your not talking about the boot. sorry for the lack of quality on the pics i took them on my phone. o and whenever i have time i will work on my cars lol.

Can you print screen the viewport? just press printscreen on the keyboard and paste to any paint program so I can see the mesh better. But from the pics I think the quarter panel rows is going down not going towards the trunk that's why they dont line up.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6581/wiremesh0nf.jpg
its very messy, i think i might not do an interior with this model, i might just finish the materials do the rims and put a dark tinit on the windows.

dood how do u do that with ur WMP?

right click on your , oh shit, ummm, that blue bar (youve probably changed the color and style and that) i think its the status bar right click on it and go to toolbars, then click "windows media player", and when you minimize it it goes down in the corner ;)

Heres what I think the mesh should flow
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1075/wiremesh0nf3nl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

See the red straight lines. Make some horizontal cuts so that it matches the trunk rows of poly. As of now your quarter panel only matches the break lights but not the one beside it, the trunk.
The crooked lines are rows of polys that I think you can remove since the mesh is very dense. You can bandglue those to join the rows together.

ok ive done this with it instead of adding another bandsaw to make the trunk even sharper, i turned it into a tri poly so i still have the sharpness but the trunk isnt any sharper.
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/4959/wiremesh48xq.jpg
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8779/wiremesh30zu.jpg
http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/591/wiremesh25kb.jpg

heres most of the materials done, just a few more body details about 2 more materials, and then ill start the rims, its 8 pm in aus so ill probably do the rims tomorow.
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/88/7thprogress4uh.jpg

The third screen cap looks like you got the mesh right.
The render looks good. I think this car deserves to get an interior. It might sell for $70 with interiors.

ok ill give interiors a go, i was going to ask you how much i should put it up for lol.

im starting to put alot more time into detail but im still having a problem with the rear lights, i put a chrome backing in the light that made it a bit better, but what else will make it look beter? at the moment it just looks so fake. please raytracer help me out!!!

ive been messing around with some bevels and this is the best i could come up with.
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9928/46hg.jpg

Post the real car's break light and make comparisons.
You should make the surface % 70 transparent and add some reflection. Try texturing it with the real texture from the breaklights of the car. Add the texture to the diffuse, specular and bump mapping using the texture. Make the inside reflective like just like in real life.
I saw your website. Cool man, atleast your doing something productive while you're out of school. Why dont you apply for google adsense while you're at.

ive tried all off that but its just not coming together, the texture i tried to apply was the actual brake light but it showed up the same as normal only a tiny bit difference barely noticeable. thanks for taking a look at the site, i put it up 3 days ago, i just tried applying for adsense and you have to be over 18 im only 15 lol, ill try and get around it though, and i dont even think i would get much from it.

if anyone wondering why progress is slow its b/c my lightwave is playing up, im reinstalling it now so hopefully it wont crash anymore.

well i reinstalled lightwave, and i now have 7.5 not 7, i really need an upgrade but i cant afford it at the moment. you can pre order version 9 now, and im still on 7 lol. o well ill get 9 one day. well heres the latest ive finished the body, i will start the interior tomorrow!! im excited! if ive left anything out please post, it only takes a few seconds.
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8937/8thprogress4yo.jpg
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1428/8thprogress24fx.jpg

Looking good. You're missing the signal lights. You should put some transparency on glass. In layout you should check raytrace shadows, reflect, refraction, Turn recursion to only 4. You're right about he adsense not making money. Realistically I see earnings of $50 a month. But I'm just amazed at technology and how the content is related to the ads in real time. Check my site and the ads are somehow related to whatever junk I write there. Hehe.

thats what i thought about the signal lights but i cant seem to find them. and how does adsence work is it hits? or searches? or what?
heres a pic try and find the signals yourself.
http://fast-autos.net/bmw/e46m313.jpg

i messed with some of the main body material and i came up with this.
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/7532/9thprogress8qy.jpg

heres my interior, im just starting on it now, ill probably work on it for about 3-4 hours. we will see what i can do with it in that time.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1501/10thprogress2uw.jpg

well heres the latest, i was having some trouble with my website so i was working on my site for about 2 hours thats why progress is slow. An d my modeler crashed when i was up to this part i i didnt save it so i needed to do it ALL over again.
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4034/11thprogress5fa.jpg

You earn money when someone actually clicks on the ads at your site. Not all ads have the same value. Some are worth a few cents, some a few dollars. I just put it on mine coz its something I dont have to tinker around with and "maybe" it earns. Its just like interest. You dont do anything but you get pennies. Hehe. Again realistically I see earning of around $50 a month not more. But I do know popular blogs that earn maybe %500 a month and some great forums that earn $1500. Its all in the traffic your site gets. Even automotiveforums has one.

Why does your lightwave crash? Mine only crashed less than 10 times in the 2 years I've used it. Why didn't you start with the doors and dashboard. They're more visible. Its also easier to fit the dashboard once the door interior are done. Its all in the mustang tutorial.

i just didnt know where to start, its the first complete car without following a tut. o well you learn from your mistakes. the crashing had something to do with my windows media player sound wierd?? its b/c every time the song changes i little window comes up and interferes with my zooming and rotating so it would freeze and then a windows error sign comes up...
well how much do you get for one search?

Yeah live and learn. When I was 15 I was wasting my time in the arcades. Hehe. Now you've got a chance to either go in the automotive design industry(the next chip foose), or in the cgi industry(george lucas). Lightwave will give a good foundation for 3d visuals in either field.
I dont know how much adsearch value is since no one has yet used my search bar. Haha!

i am afraid that is not possible my good friend, i failed school, its wierd because if you saw me on the street you would think i wouldnt know how to turn on the computer. im the type that wears bandanas and has guns and loves fighting, yet in the computer world im a computer wiz lol, if my mates saw how i wrote on this site they would be like wtf, dey wud expekt me 2 write lik dis lol. but i might go back to school and pass, but even iff i did pass how would i get into the gd industry? and if you use my adsense ill use urs!!

again having problems with my website so progress is slow, but ive done some more.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7909/12thprogress8vs.jpg

progress has been flowing good for the last half hour, heres my door interior.
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9967/13thprogress1im.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i finally finished the dash, that was one of the hardest parts of the car without a doubt, it was just hard selecting the points on the door and the front window b/c i didnt know where the dash meets up to the doors, but i got through it, next will be the seats, are m3's 2 seater or 4 seater? i think they are 4 o well ill find out soon enough well heres the latest.
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5099/14thprogress5gh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

what program do you use to do this??

newtek's lightwave, its one of the cheapest 3d programs and its also one of the best.

i am afraid that is not possible my good friend, i failed school, its wierd because if you saw me on the street you would think i wouldnt know how to turn on the computer. im the type that wears bandanas and has guns and loves fighting, yet in the computer world im a computer wiz lol, if my mates saw how i wrote on this site they would be like wtf, dey wud expekt me 2 write lik dis lol. but i might go back to school and pass, but even iff i did pass how would i get into the gd industry? and if you use my adsense ill use urs!!

Well I was a punk kid with orange dyed hair, earing, leather jacket, colors, etc. But skill is skill. If you have it companies would want it.
Dont do any scam on that adsense. Its not worth getting in jail. Haha! Heard a buhch of college kids got prosecuted for clicking on each others ads raising it up to $16000 in a month. They got caught coz google detected "patterns" in their adsense. Smart dorks!

hahahahahahahah 16k a month!! thats some funny shit, i went on my other computer and clicked it once to see how much you get for one click, its like 6 cents, i got 29 cents in my account lol, from one and a half days, its a start, but the link WAS usefull it motorsprot clothing, if i had enough money there may of been a chance of me buying a tshirt or something.

i just finished modelling the stearing wheel and the seats. They arent too detailed but like i said i just want a simple interior.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6209/15thprogress8wa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You should improve the seats. They're a bit blocky. They're visible in renders and would be smart to make them nice.

Damn, that looks good. How much time do you spend on it daily? Looks pretty sweet.
Ever though of designing you totaly own car? Like a dream car or something?

nahh ive never really thought about that pablo im not openly minded like that lol i need refrence. and i spend about 3 straight hours a day on it, and ive been on it for like a week and a half i think.

ive rouned the seats off some more ill still make them a bit different tho.
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/8519/untitled3dn.jpg

well almost its really finishing days now, all thats left is the interior trim (around the roof), the rims, numberplates, and badges. thats it! i plan on finishing tomorrow, thats if i dont go out or something. if i do finish it tomorrow im thinking of starting the ferrari f430 ( thanks to raytracers idea) but i might look for different car.
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/9967/16thprogress6yf.jpg

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
finally finished lol, progres has been SLOOOWWWW ove xmas partys and presents you guys know how it is...
well heres the finished product!!
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7583/final16my.jpg
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8063/final31pv.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6489/finalclay24lf.jpg

mayn is secksay but some of dem body lines is lookin a little iffy... u need more diffinition between the body and the headlights for sure... there is a DEFINATE gap in the real headlights and there is not in ur car... other than that some body lines are messed up a tad but its still totaly secksay

yea i nkow but i just wanted to get this project out of the way, there is no gap because of this stupid subpatch weight i use it too much but im not going to use it any more i will just do knife cuts and bandsaws instead.

hey legionofone, why dont you get into 3d??

Im back. :p
So its finished. The mesh looks good. Now you really have to work on your renders otherwise people who are thinking of buying it might not.
For now I think its time for you to learn rendering.

i dont know how to render any better :( ill look for some good tutorials...

correct me if im wrong.... this is one awesome clay render.... 1 hour and 48 minute render... it would want to be a good one....
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/176/finalclay6ec.jpg

Why did it take so long to render? What's your scene setting?

monte carlo, resolution 9x16, i think that resolution was too high lol.

Here's the scene file.
http://savefile.com/projects/125109

It should look like this render. Scale your car to metric so it fits in the camera
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/4391/raytracer18qo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/571/mazda0ua.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

thanks a bunch raytracer ill post my render when its done.

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2340/1110xq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
thats what my render came up with :(

ok car material can do some tweaking but o well its not a final render...
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/8467/11113bk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Render your finishid models.
Why is the first render so bright? Did you direct the files to point to the uffizi.hdr and plane.lwo?
The materials you really have to study. There's lots of tut about them on the net.
The scene I gave you is a trade secret. No radiosity.

i left everything normal and yea i loaded everything in.
the problem is if i render my finished models i will see mistake and i will want to go back and remodel them, i dont want that, im half way through my nsx and i want to get it done ASAP, ive got a job now so i wont get as much time to model, i work 3 days of the week all day.

Cool man. What's your job? 3 days a week aint so bad. Even if you dont model its easy to pick up again with lightwave.

dont laugh, i work in a warehouse lol. gets me around $250 a week. savinig for a s13 ;)

dont laugh, i work in a warehouse lol. gets me around $250 a week. savinig for a s13 ;)

Its a job. I was a dishwasher once. :grinno:
Your website is pretty cool. There's tutorials and blueprints. My fav page would be the About page. Hehe

haha tnanks man, i know i shouldnt really be making tutorials because i still have loads to learn about lightwave, but it bring traffic to my site ;) and at least its a good tutorial.

i was going through your web site looking at the blue prints and what you marked as a charger is really a challenger

ok thanks man, at the moment im finding it hard to
1. Stay alive
2. keep going to work
3. go on the computer
so ill get around to it one day....