I have an 06 sentra 1.8 LE. I'm debating to either get the popcharger or cai? maybe even a short ram. What's best performance wise?

THANKS!

get a CAI tube with a pop charger on the end

wtf is a pop charger?

Just wait until your waranty is over and swap in an SR20VE with an SR20 FWD trans.

get a CAI tube with a pop charger on the end




ditto, best flowing filter+ best max hp intake= teh win

Just wait until your waranty is over and swap in an SR20VE with an SR20 FWD trans.

dude where in the thread is he wondering about engine swaps?



ummm we have a winner...
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9407/youwinprize6mw.jpg

A pop charger IS a short-ram. As far as choosing....it's really very simple. Cold air = bit more hp, Pop charger = better sound. The pop charger filter design is meant to be coupled with the oem intake tubing. Putting it on the end of a CAI will be exactly the same as using a full CAI kit w/ it's own filter...Unless it's from eBay.

JWT filters flow better than aem, nismo, or injen, using the filter will squeeze out maybe an extra hp over just a CAI, its been discussed as the difference in breaking 200whp or not, a few guys have hit 198-199 NA

oic...nothin new to be worried about...thats what i thought it was. my car can't use a pop charger, id have to buy a whole CAI since my air comes through a plastic pipe from the fender wall...

Can't use a pop charger? Damn, you should take a pic of your motor sometime. Sounds weird.

i think i might have one handy lemme look

here, but its what is under the air box, its a '2 wide tube that goes into the firewall

http://tinypic.com/i2kp5w.jpg

yeah i know what you mean, i have the 06 sentra SE.
im gonna get a CAI pretty soon, and after the air filter box, there's some sort of elbow down to the right side wall. It looks almost impossible to get to, and that's where the filter for the CAI goes i believe.

So how the hell would someone do that????

you have to beat the shit out of it, i had to remove that to install my CAI, you have to remove the gravel guard and there are clips on the underside of it that come off, it goes in 2 peices

Couldn't you just rest the pop charger's filter housing in the bottom half of the air box? I mean, disconnect the box from the intake tubing, then connect the pop charger to the tubing and rest it on top of the firewall crap(or whatever it is)?

Ok, so based on what you guys are saying, it's better off putting the popcharger on the stock air filter box, and not modding anything? .

I mean, if that's the case for more sound/hp, that's the way to go.
Or should i get a CAI from hotshot.com and install it.

How hard can it possibly be to install a CAI on an 06sentra SE?

noonononononnonononoo
you take your stock airbox off and put the pop charger on the end of the tube. itll fit trust me
the pop charger is better than a normal filter because of the velocity stack under the filter element. its like the APEX'i power filter. they both have the same basic design. the velocity stack helps the air flow smoother and more evenly, meaning less intake resistance. ive seen dyno numbers where an AEM CAI with AEM filter is used, then a pop charger is stuck on the end of the CAI tube and it gains like 3 or 4 hp.


if you want a CAI, just remove the tire, remove the fenderwell plastic cover, and its just right there.
not too hard at all

its almost worth it to get even a short ram tube to replace the stock tube because of all the irregularities in the stock tubing cause air turbulence and restriction

i know its not hard, i just don't like the sound of the airbox and its performance. but i see a big difference when i WOT in the cold.. im starting to want it...

The airbox only silences the sound if it's a complete box. Taking off the top of it will totally nullify the silencer effect. I'd suggest just getting a short-ram/pop charger, and rest the filter in the lower half of the box. Then you'll have the good filter design, good sound, and the stock plastic tubing below the airbox will still deliver cool air straight to the pop charger's filter thru the hole in the bottom of the box.

i think i might do that. imma check and look @ autozone for a K&N air filter adapter thing

Ok, Since i have an 06 sentra SE... Where can i get a short ram to install the JWT popcharger? Since the stock tubes have restrictions, etc. And also, Once i get the CAI tubing, ill connect the popcharger at the end of the short ram, and then leave 1/2 of the plastic air box on, so that the cold air from the right fender wall is still doing it's job>?

Is that best for HP and sound... over a CAI ? ? ?

Ok, Since i have an 06 sentra SE... Where can i get a short ram to install the JWT popcharger? Since the stock tubes have restrictions, etc. And also, Once i get the CAI tubing, ill connect the popcharger at the end of the short ram, and then leave 1/2 of the plastic air box on, so that the cold air from the right fender wall is still doing it's job>?

Is that best for HP and sound... over a CAI ? ? ?

this is what I did:
get a cone filter, heat shield.
and the MAF sensor adaptor(any kind but plastic).
(I don't no about urs, but when I got the adaptor,
the holes for the MAF sensor were way off,
but don't worry, just drill new holes, it'll work just fine)

buy the cold air intake tube for the 99 civic from the auto zone,
the tube is made of aliumum, about 3 ft long with 45 degree angle.
and it's actually too long, but the angle is perfect,
so cut about 2 inch off.

then, loose the battery holder, move it to the left as far as possible.
(I mean, just push it, but the battery still stay in the base.)

now u see, u can install the filter right behind ur driver side headlight,
which is right next to the battery.
and the heat shield is not really to prevent heat,
it's preventing rain, water from wetting ur filter.

it's not really a CAI system, but it's pretty far away from the heat,
and it's very very close to the hole where cold air coming from the bumper.
u'll c when u take ur intake box out.

in pep boys, they sell those custom CAI tubes,
with all different angle and length so u can build ur own.
Don't every waste ur money on those, they r made of plastic,
I can break them easily with just two fingers.

anyway, whatever u do, there's still restriction around
the throttle....and there's not much we can do about it.

anything made for a civic should not be put on our cars :screwy: plus i think the civic CAI, or at least the ones ive seen, have smaller intake tubing, AEM's is a 3 inch tube. you should know that installing a true CAI also means shaving the inside of your fender to make the pipe fit through the hole that is there, and dont listen to any garbage about sucking up water, you have to completely submerge the filter in water to ingest anything, not splash it with a puddle

anything made for a civic should not be put on our cars :screwy: plus i think the civic CAI, or at least the ones ive seen, have smaller intake tubing, AEM's is a 3 inch tube. you should know that installing a true CAI also means shaving the inside of your fender to make the pipe fit through the hole that is there, and dont listen to any garbage about sucking up water, you have to completely submerge the filter in water to ingest anything, not splash it with a puddle

that civic tube is 3 inch.....and for me, as long as it works great,
I don't really care which car its made for.
but like I said, that's not a real CAI.

about the water, I'm not really worry about sucking water.
however, if u let the rain wet ur filter, it creates moisture - BAD for the performance.
and if more than 70% of filter is wet, it won't even start.
(I don't no if it will still running if the engine was on.....
but it happened when I washed my filter and didn't allow enough
time to dry, install it, won't start. I though I screw up, but it's
just a wet filter)

this is what I did:
get a cone filter, heat shield.
and the MAF sensor adaptor(any kind but plastic).
(I don't no about urs, but when I got the adaptor,
the holes for the MAF sensor were way off,
but don't worry, just drill new holes, it'll work just fine)

buy the cold air intake tube for the 99 civic from the auto zone,
the tube is made of aliumum, about 3 ft long with 45 degree angle.
and it's actually too long, but the angle is perfect,
so cut about 2 inch off.

then, loose the battery holder, move it to the left as far as possible.
(I mean, just push it, but the battery still stay in the base.)

now u see, u can install the filter right behind ur driver side headlight,
which is right next to the battery.
and the heat shield is not really to prevent heat,
it's preventing rain, water from wetting ur filter.

it's not really a CAI system, but it's pretty far away from the heat,
and it's very very close to the hole where cold air coming from the bumper.
u'll c when u take ur intake box out.

in pep boys, they sell those custom CAI tubes,
with all different angle and length so u can build ur own.
Don't every waste ur money on those, they r made of plastic,
I can break them easily with just two fingers.

anyway, whatever u do, there's still restriction around
the throttle....and there's not much we can do about it.



hahahhaha ROFL thats exactly what i did on my old sentra!!!
i didnt think anyone else would think of that!

sounds like im going to do that today...imma look into it and see about how much it'll cost. btw, what does it take to remove about '2 from the civic CAI tube, a steel saw?

yeah just use a hacksaw.
and there are probably a couple breather hoses that plug into your stock tube. you have to punch holes in the rubber connectors of the new intake and plug them into there. and plug up the civic plug holes in the tube if you dont use them

yeah just use a hacksaw.
and there are probably a couple breather hoses that plug into your stock tube. you have to punch holes in the rubber connectors of the new intake and plug them into there. and plug up the civic plug holes in the tube if you dont use them

oh yeah, I forgot about that part, the only thing left out is the air temp sensor.
On that tube, there's a hole for the temp sensor, but it's somewhat too small, so I just drill it, trim it, make it bigger then it fits perfect.

I just checked the box, it's not just for civic, it also fits for
accord and integra, and here's how much I spent:

$39.99 for the tube
$6.99 for the MAF sensor adaptor
$8.99 for the heat shield
I forgot how much the AEM filter was.....bought it long time ago.
that's pretty much it

So what's the best cia for the spec? 1st performance wise, then bang for your buck

yo since im a newbie at this CAI crap, would anyone do it for me, and ill pay... ? labor and parts? ship it to orlando, fl. I got an 06 sentra 1.8s.

Hardly any companies have anything for my car yet, so i would really highly appreciate it.

So what's the best cia for the spec? 1st performance wise, then bang for your buck

id say AEM, NISMO, and hotshot are all very quality
bang for buck nothing can beat a custom short ram. or even if you want to get more pipe and rout it to the fender for a custom cold air.
popcharger from JWT and the APEX'i power filter are both based on the same design and work very well on any performance intake tube.
while the JWT has the velocity stack on the bottom, the apexi filter smooths the airflow coming in with a funnel top part, achieving most of the same efficiency
http://www.driftshop.com.au/engine_files/apexiairfilter2.jpg
http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/images/POPCHARGERGENERICSMALL.jpg

yo since im a newbie at this CAI crap, would anyone do it for me, and ill pay... ? labor and parts? ship it to orlando, fl. I got an 06 sentra 1.8s.

Hardly any companies have anything for my car yet, so i would really highly appreciate it.

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Or does anyone know any companies that sell the CAI for the 1.8 06 sentra? HOTSHOT claims to say that it will NOT fit. AEM, won't work, so im lead with nothing...



Thanks.

lol, slideways you love pretending i know what i'm talking about with cars :P

I prefer the HKS filter over any other. It gets a bad rap from lab tests, but it performs much differently when installed on a motor. Best of the best if you ask me.

but its just a filter...









im pimpin apex'i and JWT because they have an additional part that helps smooth airflow in addition to the filter.
otherwise hks is one of the best for just plain filter...

yo since im a newbie at this CAI crap, would anyone do it for me, and ill pay... ? labor and parts? ship it to orlando, fl. I got an 06 sentra 1.8s.

Hardly any companies have anything for my car yet, so i would really highly appreciate it.

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Or does anyone know any companies that sell the CAI for the 1.8 06 sentra? HOTSHOT claims to say that it will NOT fit. AEM, won't work, so im lead with nothing...



Thanks.

well first of all look at my sig and guess whether or not i live near FL... :P


second of all... looking at pics of the engine bay, it looks like the same general layout as the B14 SR20DE engine bay...id bet a 95-99 2.0L intake would fit like a charm. otherwise do the thing with the civic intake vs hacksaw. it looks like it would fit perfectly too.


1995 200sx SE-R with injen intake
http://www.injen.com/webpages/intakes/intake_images/web_ready/is/is1955.jpg

2001 sentra 1.8s
http://motioncars.com/archive/car_review58/sentra_07.jpg
http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/images/01sentra_engine.jpg

well im gonna take a pic of my engine bay pretty soon, so that i can show you guys. If anyone wants to make the intake, ill be glad to pay, because im such a newbie at this.....!

thanks

well im gonna take a pic of my engine bay pretty soon, so that i can show you guys. If anyone wants to make the intake, ill be glad to pay, because im such a newbie at this.....!

thanks

I live in GA, don't really mind to make one for u, but just don't think it's worse the risk.

for 06 sentra,
the MAF sensor might be different,
the engine compartment might be different,
there might be extra sensors....who knows.
I need an actual car to make sure it fits.

for now, it's best to just install the pop charger or leave it as it is now
and wait til a CAI for 06 sentra came out.

but its just a filter...









im pimpin apex'i and JWT because they have an additional part that helps smooth airflow in addition to the filter.
otherwise hks is one of the best for just plain filter...



I was talking about the whole filter assembly. I think the internal design of HKS's filter assembly is top of the line.

idk how their filter would be so much more superior than maybe an apexi or another high quality company. i personally haven't seen a hks intake on a fwd car personally, and what ive read is that they need constant cleaning due to the foam filter...do they even make a cai(hks)?

either way hks doesn't make a intake set up for my car unless i get a s13/s14 intake for the non turbo model, which i dont think will fit

just hook a mini intercooler up to your throttle body and spray teh outside with co2, make your intake charge like 10 degrees, theres a CAI for ya.....lol

ooohhh ok the true hks mushroom has a velocity stack inside also.(looked at the website, didnt know they had a pic of the inside before)
and chiquae no the RWD intake wont work. it stretches across the engine bay like the 240sx intake.
http://202.21.128.20/photoserver/43/14237943_full.jpg

It's because the HKS filter isn't paper. It's a plastic sponge material that flows much better. To clean it, all you need is to spray it with an air compressor to blow all the dirt off of the magnetic coating. All you need is the MAF adapter and a universal HKS filter assembly. Just make sure it's the rights size for the MAF. I have an HKS filter kit on my FWD Sentra. And, no, HKS doesn't believe in CAI. But since you have a B15 Sentra SE, you can use the old-school kit for the older SE-R. They're all SR20's!