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A few noble questionsMr.INSANE 11-08-2005, 11:12 PM Well as you see im a newb I have a few questions regarding the z series and such so you hang with me and hold back your flame urges. First off The 280z Whats its 0 - 60 time stock How does it handle What kind of engines can it hold ala skyline celica etc etc Is there much room for handling improvements How is the shifitng does it tend to buck alot or is it very smooth After that I have a rather odd question Now i have a racing game {who doesnt} as you might know if it its called forza motorsport well there happens to be a care called the 240zx made by nissan but has a datsun signal near the back. Its not like any other z mainly the only real difference i can spot is the mirros are about halfway up the front ala kinda like some older cars. i can get pictures if needed but does this car exist or it just some mistake by the forza team xXxRocker5150 11-08-2005, 11:24 PM the 240sx does exist.... the 1st version of the z cars was the 240z than the 260z than the 280zx and finally the 300zx... as far as the tranny shifting... it depends on the previous owner and as to whether or not they abused it... the engine in stock form isn't that fast, but it has alot of potential... if I were you I'd get a 240z or a 260z, and do an engine/tranny swap... you'd have one hell of a beast... ohh and btw all Nissans before 1984 were called Datsuns Mr.INSANE 11-08-2005, 11:35 PM Thanks alot for the info. But why isnt the 280z as good as the others? can it not hold as many engine types as others. Lastly you misread it the car is called the 240 zx not sx DeleriousZ 11-09-2005, 12:50 AM the x in zx wasn't introduced until 81 when they made the 280zx if you're going with a 240-280z, you'll probably want to swap in a 5 speed from a 280zx as all of the previous z's (i believe) came with 4 speed manual tranny's the mirror's could be a styling thing, i've seen a few with them on... however i'm sure there were a few specialy z's all along the line that nissan made purely for racing etc. the 280z is heavier than the earlier models.. more luxury items etc... the 70-72 240z's are the lightest Mr.INSANE 11-09-2005, 09:18 AM Thanks If you would like i can get a screenshot of the mysterious car probehtr300 11-09-2005, 12:53 PM its ok we know what it is, ive seen it when my friend was playing the game and its a mystype. They meant to say 240Z, not 240zx. and yes some of the earlier 240z's came with the mirrors halfway up the front fender. xXxRocker5150 11-09-2005, 03:39 PM the reason I wouldn't get a 280zx is becuase I heard that straight from the factory they were lemons... I'd get a 240 or 260, but that's just my .02 Mr.INSANE 11-09-2005, 07:41 PM thanks anyways so putting in a tt skyline engine? how much would this cost and is it easy k3smostwanted 11-09-2005, 07:59 PM thanks anyways so putting in a tt skyline engine? how much would this cost and is it easy not easy and expensive. lots of fabrication as in motor mounts, tranny mount, shifter linkages, wiring, driveshaft etc. not to mention the motor with a GT-S tranny will run you closer to $5k probably. plus you will need the ECU, wiring harness, etc. dont forget you will probably need to swap in a stronger diff and a better suspension. if a skyline motor is really an interested...i would look more at the RB25DET or RB20DET. very strong motors and capable of anything you can throw at it. Mr.INSANE 11-09-2005, 09:43 PM Hmm How about a celica motor or something a tad less expensive how fast can you get a 240 or 260 without adding a new engine btw i am planning on buying a 240 if you wonder why im asking these i just want the car to be good xXxRocker5150 11-09-2005, 10:01 PM well with any amount of money, you can make any car fast... as for the stock engine, I wouldn't stick with it. please DONT DONT put a celica engine in that beautiful car... you can put in a nice VG engine, or even a v8... if it were me, I'd prolly swap in a 240sx KA engine, and mod from there.... or a vg33DET and go from there... but that's just me DeleriousZ 11-09-2005, 10:03 PM a celica motor in a z would go 0 mph because you would have a hail of angry z enthusiasts coming down on you for putting a toyota engine into a nissan classic.... you'd be better off finding another small sized engine, nissan's ca18det comes to mind, along with the much more expensive sr20det... both are turbocharged 4 bangers, both have the same overall potential to a point.. but the ca18det is about half the price of the sr20det because the sr has become so popular.. sticking with the n/a inline 6 won't get you much faster, but dropping in an L28ET from a 280zx will give you a nice bump in power and an excellent platform to start modifying... that and they're Incredibly cheap... you could also consider a v8 swap, but that guzzles gas and is generally frowned on by true nissan enthusiasts (unless it's a nissan v8 of course) but the folks over at hybridz.org will tell you it's the thing to do.. Mr.INSANE 11-09-2005, 10:24 PM Hmm So any good sites for car engines besides ebay Well look right now im looking at something its reasonably easy is not to expensive and gives me a good bump in power Oh sorry about the celica thing i jsut got up stephenp 11-10-2005, 11:55 AM no put an old block (ie 1979 and older 280, as for thicker rings than the newer) throw on a 81 to 83 turbo head(, with porting polishing and slight chamber adjustment) and put a 2 mm head gasket on it and run a huge turbo and huge injectors and youll be old school with about 400+ bhp k3smostwanted 11-10-2005, 05:50 PM no put an old block (ie 1979 and older 280, as for thicker rings than the newer) throw on a 81 to 83 turbo head(, with porting polishing and slight chamber adjustment) and put a 2 mm head gasket on it and run a huge turbo and huge injectors and youll be old school with about 400+ bhp we generally dont listen to mr. stephenp because his ideas are pretty off the wall most of the time as you can see. whether they work or not...he is one crazy kid that likes to work on cars wayyy too much. anyways, if i had to choose a motor to swap in a 240Z it would be a RB20DET. better power band than the SR or CA because it is an inline 6. offers about the same power as the SR with the same modibility capabilities if not better. its cheaper than the SR and about the same cost as the CA. it is a relatively easy swap for the 240Z because it is a rear sump motor which means you will not have to switch over oil pans or any of that jazz. its capable of 400+rwhp on stock internals and comes from arguably one of the strongest series of motors put into Japanese cars. my thoughts... Mr.INSANE 11-10-2005, 07:08 PM Thanks again you are really helping me out here anyways along the lines of handling to the cars do generally well or should i need to get a new shocks tires etcs later on if i get a skyline engine Also sorry to be newb but wheres a good place to get these engines online maybe theres a place nearby me whoknows k3smostwanted 11-10-2005, 07:42 PM Thanks again you are really helping me out here anyways along the lines of handling to the cars do generally well or should i need to get a new shocks tires etcs later on if i get a skyline engine Also sorry to be newb but wheres a good place to get these engines online maybe theres a place nearby me whoknows contact Arley Leghorn at http://www.SpeedlineGroup.com for more info on availibility and pricing. he gets some of the best JDM motors to come over seas. im sure there are some other good companies but i have talked to quite a few people who have bought motors from him and they always seem to get very good ones. also, there is a place called venus-auto. you may want to try searching for them. heard good from them. you will want to get a whole front clip to do the conversion, therefore you will get the wiring harness, ECU, shifter, trans, motor, etc. everything you need except fabricated parts to do the conversion. also this front clip will be from a R32 Nissan Skyline GT-S. as for handling, im sure all of the major name brand companies like Tein make all sorts of stuff for the 240Z. you may also be interested in ordering a catalog from the following: http://victoriabritish.com they carry almost every OEM part you can imagine for the older Z cars, plus some aftermarket and tasteful body modifications. Mr.INSANE 11-10-2005, 07:48 PM Is the conversion basicly a bolt on ala no real welding making extra engine hooks etc etc Mr.INSANE 11-10-2005, 07:54 PM Well my stepfathers a mechanic i bet he could lend a hand anyways would the tt guide work for this aswell or is there a better guide somewhere out there for what im gonna do k3smostwanted 11-10-2005, 08:12 PM Is the conversion basicly a bolt on ala no real welding making extra engine hooks etc etc its definitely not a bolt on...i dont think there is an engine that will swap in without modifications. like motor mounts fabbed up, custom driveshaft, tranny mount, radiator mounts, etc. if your lucky, you may find a place that sells a kit. check out and contact this place for details. they have done RB20 and SR20 conversions on older Z cars so they know exactly what is involved. hell if your close enough, i think their prices are very fair. http://www.vildinimotorsport.com/ or you can PM or email AF member SR240Z (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member.php?u=201472) he works at Vildini and he can give you all the information you ever needed to know. DeleriousZ 11-10-2005, 08:30 PM this front clip will be from a R32 Nissan Skyline GT-S. GTS-T actually... GT-S has the mundane rb20de.... boooring lol Mr.INSANE 11-10-2005, 08:37 PM Ouch thats pretty far but if things get to that point i could proballly drive there Oh yeah i live in turlock which is quite far away from that place k3smostwanted 11-10-2005, 09:04 PM GTS-T actually... GT-S has the mundane rb20de.... boooring lol sorry about that...i knew it didnt look right when i typed it. Celica what??? well, sometimes if you have the money its well worth it to let someone who has done the swap before do it. if they do it many times, 9 times out of 10 they can do it faster and thus will not charge as much money since most shops base their fees off hourly times. good luck man... longlivetheZ 11-11-2005, 04:45 PM The old school Zs were fast for their day, handled GREAT and were pretty cheap in the beginning. This is what made them so successful. They DOMINATED all the races they competed in, too. Great cars...all of them...from 240Z up to the 350Z...they're all very different, though. If you want to build a beast (and actually have the means, which I kinda doubt), get a 240Z...they are VERY light and there's tons of aftermarket shit for them, plus you can drop in other engines too. But if you put a Chevy big block in one, I'll hunt you down. Good engines but they don't belong in Zs, imo. What I'd still like to do, but don't think I'm gunna...drop the built Z31T engine I have (once it's done, of course) into a modded 240Z chassis...that thing would be painful. DeleriousZ 11-11-2005, 07:51 PM http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3825/crazyvg8mx.jpg (http://imageshack.us) oh yes.... oohhhh yes.... i think that badboy has direct ignition on it or something... the 6 coil packs sitting atop the valve covers.. that and it's also spraying:sunglasse looks like that guy did prettymuch Everything right... all but the radiator... i dunno if that'd provide enough cooling for that Beast.. k3smostwanted 11-11-2005, 08:23 PM i dont know delerious, that radiator looks pretty thick... DeleriousZ 11-11-2005, 08:48 PM i'm pretty sure that's the stock rad... looks similar to the one out of a 240z... which is what i think that car is anyway lol... Mr.INSANE 11-11-2005, 08:49 PM Yeah Well ethier way you guys did it for me. im now on the lookout for a z most likely a 240z k3smostwanted 11-11-2005, 11:28 PM Yeah Well ethier way you guys did it for me. im now on the lookout for a z most likely a 240z :lol: awesome!!! xXxRocker5150 11-11-2005, 11:55 PM My work here is done (don't give Jason or Delerious n.e. credit man... it was all me!!) Stack240z 11-15-2005, 04:32 PM Here's what you can do with a 240z with more money than sense: http://www.servinitup.com/gallery/Darius240z Just watch a couple of the videos on there longlivetheZ 11-15-2005, 07:18 PM I love the 240... http://www.servinitup.com/gallery/albums/Darius240z/byron_z_joe_011.sized.jpg Just SO bad. I just don't get why people put a chevy engine in them. Sure, they're good engines, but why THEM? There are tons of great engines out there...I wonder...why the LT1? I'm considering putting the engine I'm building into a 240Z, but it would be a TON more work. I can find a nice Z31 and probably drop it right back in there in my Uncle's garage. That'd be the easiest thing to do. But I'd really love to put it in a 240. They're the lightest Z ever made...there are TONS of aftermarket suspention stuff out there (which is all that would matter to me since the engine will already be done)...there are TONS of interior pieces out there...etc. It would just be a REALLY NOT simple thing. Decision is a long way off still, so I have time to decide still. DeleriousZ 11-15-2005, 08:18 PM yeah, 240z is definitely an AWESOME car... i agree with LLZ tho... chevy engines, while they're great engines for making power; especially with FI, they don't belong in a z... mind you i'm somewhat of a purist, but to each his own i spose.. Mr.Molasses 11-15-2005, 09:00 PM yeah i think we can all agree that american v8s dont belong in a z. I would personally use a l28et out of and 81-83 280zx turbo. they have great hp and torque and can make tons of power with just a bigger turbo and big injectors. Plus all the 240z-280zx engines and transmissions can be interchanged with little modification if any. I personally picked the 280zx beacause i like the higher bumpered z's but thats just a matter of preference. the ultimate for me would be the front of a 280zx with the smoother 280z rear quarter, but now im just carrying on. oh and wile we're on styling the mirrors on the fenders were only on the japanese versions of the z's and they were called the fairlady z, regardless of what Forza says (sorry about the lecture) Stack240z 11-15-2005, 09:24 PM yeah i think we can all agree that american v8s dont belong in a z. Hey guys... I'd like to think we could all agree that the more Zs that are on the road (no matter what's driving them) the better! And there is one other good reason its done more than any other conversion: http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Datsun_Z_V-8.html Because there IS a kit a ready to go... basically bolt in. The pros/cons, right/wrongs about whether to do it, or not to do it, will go on for eternity... I personally welcome any conversion, so long as its tastefully done. probehtr300 11-15-2005, 09:24 PM Im studying Automotive design in art school and ive discused the 240z along with the Miura as two of the most beautiful and timeless designs ever. And ive been completely backed on that statement by profs. and alumni that are now auto designers. I would LOVE to have an early 73' 240z someday. BTW. all those pics of those Z are way badass. jszarecki 11-27-2005, 08:24 PM i agree with your statement. is that a wide body pic "longlive the z"? is it yours? longlivetheZ 11-27-2005, 09:16 PM I WISH it was mine, man. I got that off another site. That dude put a Chevy engine in that car...damn shame... But...I am building a VG30ET (turbo enging out of my last Z, an 86 turbo) and I'm considering putting it in a 240Z. I just don't think I'd be easy to find a nice, low mile Z to put it in... Oh...and jszarecki...read the last post in the thread about the sponsorship thing. Wes had to go and close it RIGHT as I posted a nice long post...reply in PM. Oh...and for the newb...PM = personal message. Just click the little "PM" button in the bottom part of this post. ...we have music to talk, man... xXxRocker5150 11-28-2005, 08:53 PM ^count me in too Hodo 11-29-2005, 05:35 PM Ok the 280ZX was not a lemon, it just was not well recieved, kinda like the 300ZX (Z31) and the 350Z (Z33). It was new, not like a new car, but a new idea for a old car, they went in the luxery direction with it. Which added about 400lb or more to the wieght of the car and they softened the suspension of the car up for a more comfortable ride. But in the proccess they alienated most of the Z fans out there. Much likethe Z33 has done in more recent history, many dont like its departure from the Turbo power of the past, but many of us forget that the first Zs were NAs. The Z33 kinda harkens back to that. Back to the 280ZX. If you want a older Z then any of the early Zs are about the same, 240-280Z, note I said Z not ZX, the ZX was too heavy and you end up doing alot of reverse engineering to get to where you want it. As for the power plant, the L28 engine in the 280Z is one of the stouter Z engines made. As for a fact there is a guy in my local area who drives a 240Z with a L28 in it that has been turbo charged and is running 21PSI and running close to the 10s in this car. The only reason he runs a 240Z is because his 280Z was hit by a 17yo girl driving a VW jetta. But after all a Z is a Z, even if its a ZX its still a Z. longlivetheZ 11-29-2005, 06:50 PM The Z car line is amazing cuz the SAME LINE covers such a wide spectrum of uses and goals. The 240Z was a stout, simple, affordable TRUE sports car...the Z31 was more of a sports tourer. All this said, NONE of them are so far gone that you'd have to do an arm and a leg worth of work to them to get them to a pretty down to business sports car status again. jszarecki 11-30-2005, 01:34 PM damn girls in jettas. i was "run over" in my VW Corrado a few years back. her BF's jeep literaly ran over the passenger side of the car xXxRocker5150 11-30-2005, 04:46 PM ^damn dude, that's f'd up... and wtf's up with all the ads now at the bottom of the page... there's an ad for wendys on mine and damn I'm hungry k3smostwanted 12-01-2005, 04:21 AM ^damn dude, that's f'd up... and wtf's up with all the ads now at the bottom of the page... there's an ad for wendys on mine and damn I'm hungry yeah, that gets me. last time i was on here it was at the top of the page. but the ads have been at the bottom of the page forever. longlivetheZ 12-01-2005, 06:06 PM This site is turning into a giant billboard. xXxRocker5150 12-01-2005, 08:34 PM guh I know, I remeber when the first started the picturless ads at the bottom, and now this crap :( longlivetheZ 12-01-2005, 08:53 PM And, when it started, I thought to myself "well...maybe this will lead to no more of the infamous 'automotiveforums is down for maintenance, check back in 5 minutes" thing. Soooooooooo much for THAT... medic300zx 12-02-2005, 01:46 PM Looking at the post about the 280 vs 260 vs 240 - Well I will agree with most members who state to use the 240 series. I at present have a 300zx with a manual trans and can tell you the 1972 Datsun 240z that came stock with 150 HP would take my 1984 Nissan/Datsun 300zx(year that it changed and list both on car) with 160 HP on bottom or top end.I bought a 1985 Nissan 260 which only came out with 139 HP and it was weak. When I say weak I mean my moms 1985 Nissan truck could take it I believe. I posted message about trans problems on the 300 zx prior and even though it had trans. bands were practically worn out and overdrive band locked up it still DOGGED 90'S Model civic top and bottom. Its in the shop at present replacing trans. with new one. jszarecki 12-02-2005, 02:11 PM lets not discuss the shortfalls of the SX series. i was talking abtou the Z series a far more fun/advanced car in my opinion anyway xXxRocker5150 12-02-2005, 03:03 PM the 240, 260 and 280s with an RB engine swap would be one hellofva car IMO longlivetheZ 12-02-2005, 04:40 PM lets not discuss the shortfalls of the SX series. i was talking abtou the Z series a far more fun/advanced car in my opinion anyway He wasn't talking about the SX... jszarecki 12-05-2005, 01:41 PM yes he was.... "I bought a 1985 Nissan 260 which only came out with 139" the 260Z was stopped in the early 70's Stack240z 12-05-2005, 02:02 PM yes he was.... "I bought a 1985 Nissan 260 which only came out with 139" the 260Z was stopped in the early 70's He probably meant to type 1975 instead of 1985. '74/'75 260Zs were weak with the square shoulder carbs. xXxRocker5150 12-05-2005, 03:12 PM he could've mistakenly typed 260z instead of 240sx??? IDK longlivetheZ 12-05-2005, 04:54 PM :dunno: medic300zx 12-06-2005, 03:16 PM No mistake made - I had a 260ZZZZZZ - Anyboby knows the 240SXXXX CAME out later and is a TOTALLY Different car - A 260 ZZZZ is very weak because of the HP compared to the 1972 240 ZZZZZZ - at 150 HP - Not trying to BELITTLE any car - Just talking from expierence - I do know the difference from a Z-ZX-SX - Hoping just to give advise like buy the 240 ZZZ not the 260 ZZZZ -- The 1984 300 ZZZZZ I own is only 160 HP. --- Mean no disrespect to your 260 xXxRocker5150 12-06-2005, 05:05 PM your 84 zx has 170 if it's n/a and 200 if it's turbo... Hodo 12-06-2005, 05:51 PM Easy medic300ZX dont blow a O-ring. They are questioning your 1985 260Z, There was no 85 260Z, a 300ZX (Z31) but NO 85 260Z. Thats why they are thinking you meant a 240SX. And even then I dont think the 260Z came with 139HP........ thats even low for a 240Z, maybe at the wheels that would sound right but not at the crank. Oh well moot point arguing these Zed-laws. longlivetheZ 12-06-2005, 07:29 PM Well...the 240Z has 140hp or what ever you said (I don't know off hand) and weighs only 2400 lbs The 300ZX (Z31) has ~170hp (or something like that...I don't remember off hand) and weighs ~600 lbs more... Which did you EXPECT to feel faster? Just my :2cents: DeleriousZ 12-06-2005, 07:53 PM 160 hp!!! maaaan longlivetheZ 12-06-2005, 08:30 PM Yea...whatever...it's just a number...lol. I'm more interested in how it works and how I can make that number bigger, ya know? But I do know that the turbo has 200hp, 205 in the 87-89 turbos. Just honestly don't think about the NA much. k3smostwanted 12-06-2005, 08:34 PM Just honestly don't think about the NA much. as it should be...:rofl: xXxRocker5150 12-06-2005, 08:42 PM lol, man via's gonna' go loco on your ass Jason k3smostwanted 12-06-2005, 08:44 PM lol, man via's gonna' go loco on your ass Jason ahh...he is going Twin Turbo. he see's the light. i am more worried about freak getting his panties in a bunch, but everyone knows to take my comments lightly. :D xXxRocker5150 12-06-2005, 08:52 PM hahahaha yea stupid long haired hippies... rackalec 12-06-2005, 08:58 PM I really just need to know what super HICAS means? Don't laugh!!! My dream car has always been a 240sx and now I have a 91..........5 speed.....yes I am blonde and I am a girl. Just please answer the question. I have had my 240sx for about 5 years now and the HICAS light came on the other day, but then it went off..........I looked it up in the manual b/c I realized that I had no idea what it was and all it said was see your nissan dealer k3smostwanted 12-06-2005, 09:09 PM I really just need to know what super HICAS means? Don't laugh!!! My dream car has always been a 240sx and now I have a 91..........5 speed.....yes I am blonde and I am a girl. Just please answer the question. I have had my 240sx for about 5 years now and the HICAS light came on the other day, but then it went off..........I looked it up in the manual b/c I realized that I had no idea what it was and all it said was see your nissan dealer there is a 240sx forum but you asked a question that Z owners can answer also because the Z32TT also came with Super HICAS HICAS = High Capacity Actively Controlled Suspension AKA 4-wheel steering it basically has the ability to turn your rear wheels up to 3 degrees to the left or right depending on your speed, how much and how fast you turned the wheel, and which way you turned the wheel. this helps with high cruising steering but most disable it for a standard RWD format. it really can benefit the driver if the driver can drive with it instead of against it. the earlier models ran hydraulically off of the power steering pump and later models were all used electronic actuators. yours is hydraulic. to solve your problem, check your power steering level. make sure it is high enough. this is usually the main cause of the HICAS light coming on and off. ***enough with all that BS...blonde girl you say? hi, my name is Jason and i run this particular forum you posted in. j/k but seriously, if you need any other information, ask away or check out the 240sx forum. :D*** DeleriousZ 12-06-2005, 09:42 PM it basically has the ability to turn your rear wheels up to 3 degrees to the left or right depending on your speed, how much and how fast you turned the wheel, and which way you turned the wheel. 2 degrees wasn't it? :D ***enough with all that BS...blonde girl you say? hi, my name is Jason and i run this particular forum you posted in. j/k but seriously, if you need any other information, ask away or check out the 240sx forum. :D*** :grinno: lol k3smostwanted 12-06-2005, 09:45 PM 2 degrees wasn't it? :D 2 degrees or 3 degrees...same difference. im not gonna get out a protractor! and DZ, your just jealous because i got to the hott blonde first! DeleriousZ 12-06-2005, 09:50 PM lol, if you could measure it with a protractor i'd give you a very large sum of money, as you'd have to do it at whatever speed it kicks in... and going around a corner.... now THat would require some skill :p k3smostwanted 12-06-2005, 09:51 PM lol, if you could measure it with a protractor i'd give you a very large sum of money, as you'd have to do it at whatever speed it kicks in... and going around a corner.... now THat would require some skill :p nah, just persistence!!! medic300zx 12-06-2005, 10:26 PM I was saying from my first post I had a 1972 240 Z at 150 HP and a 1975 260 Z at 139 HP from the factory rating - The question was which was better 240 Z OR 260 Z - Through SX out of the whole mix because someone tried to bring in I was slamming SX - From driving both the 240 Z out preformed the 260 Z by far - SORRY to everyone for the misunderstanding. (P.S. - I have a factory listing of my 1984 300 ZX at 160 HP - Which I hope is wrong - is non turbo) xXxRocker5150 12-06-2005, 10:31 PM lol no one cars about your 260 or 240 n.e. more... it's all about the hot blonde now!!! :p sooo you got n.e. pictures of your.... car??? Either way welcome to the forums, and get a 300zx :D 1viadrft 12-06-2005, 10:42 PM LoL I stop checking into thread and it goes to hell! Talking shit about NA, Foo'! I'm goona kick yer arse, Jason! :) Yuh... I'm kinda partial. I'm building an NA now... butI shal4l5 .Convert to the Darkside in time. k3smostwanted 12-07-2005, 12:02 AM LoL I stop checking into thread and it goes to hell! Talking shit about NA, Foo'! I'm goona kick yer arse, Jason! :) Yuh... I'm kinda partial. I'm building an NA now... butI shal4l5 .Convert to the Darkside in time. you couldnt lift up your leg high enough ya old man! :lol: i remember reading somewhere... N/A is like having infinite turbo lag Hodo 12-07-2005, 09:32 AM Man you all are sad sometimes....... LOL Get out of the garage an meet some girls, go to a autocross event or even to the track on occasions you will meet girls trust me. Any way I am with 1viadrift on this one.... NAs are cool too. On the plus side, NAs dont have to worry about oil leaking from the turbos. I personally love the NA engine more than the boosted engine but I would like to have both, a NA and a turbo car, so I will build this one into a turbo car and buy a Z33 and keep it NA. Mr.INSANE 12-07-2005, 09:37 AM I love how theres two more pages and none of its actually related to what i asked. Seriously though and update for you guys ill probally get my z in about three to four months. Its a bitch trying to put money aside for a car. medic300zx 12-07-2005, 01:48 PM If you had read the whole message such as P.S. - I do own and drive a 300ZX --- Thanks for the advise though -- Yes I agree with you on the Blonde k3smostwanted 12-07-2005, 05:46 PM Man you all are sad sometimes....... LOL Get out of the garage an meet some girls, go to a autocross event or even to the track on occasions you will meet girls trust me. shit...i have my hands fool with 1 girlfriend. On the plus side, NAs dont have to worry about oil leaking from the turbos. they also dont have to worry about making power. thats like comeone without an ass hole saying " on the plus side, i dont have to worry about wiping my ass anymore". :rofl: 1viadrft 12-07-2005, 05:58 PM N/A is like having infinite turbo lag That doesn't even make since! :screwy: :loser: :cwm27: k3smostwanted 12-07-2005, 06:04 PM That doesn't even make since! :screwy: :loser: :cwm27: makes perfect sense...think about it a little longer. :D DeleriousZ 12-07-2005, 07:15 PM I love how theres two more pages and none of its actually related to what i asked. Seriously though and update for you guys ill probally get my z in about three to four months. Its a bitch trying to put money aside for a car. man around here 2 pages is nothing... threads don't tend to die out for a long time because people always go way off in different directions that are completely off topic... you get used to it after a while lol xXxRocker5150 12-07-2005, 09:56 PM If you had read the whole message such as P.S. - I do own and drive a 300ZX --- Thanks for the advise though -- Yes I agree with you on the Blonde lol naw man, I was telling the blonde chick to get a 300zx... Hodo 12-08-2005, 03:05 PM Some people get a little boost in their lives and they think their kings now........ Boost is good, No boost is good. Depends on what you are set up for. I would personally rather drive a NA on a twisty technical track than a Turbo, becuase they powerband is alot more stable and flat. Now for the 1/4 mile or 1/8th mile I would perfer a turbo, just because I can get in it from a standing start and let the turbo lag be my engine limiter till I can get grip. k3smostwanted 12-08-2005, 08:05 PM Some people get a little boost in their lives and they think their kings now........ Boost is good, No boost is good. Depends on what you are set up for. I would personally rather drive a NA on a twisty technical track than a Turbo, becuase they powerband is alot more stable and flat. Now for the 1/4 mile or 1/8th mile I would perfer a turbo, just because I can get in it from a standing start and let the turbo lag be my engine limiter till I can get grip. its hard to make big power without FI. good luck competing on any twisty track with a 200whp 3300lb car. and have even better luck getting an N/A Z32 to make big power without Nitrous or FI. there is nothing wrong with N/A. but you cant compare it with FI. all you can say is that you have a smoother power band and it may be a tad more reliable. ok...lets look at a TT's power band compared to a N/A's...ok an N/A' may be smoother but look at how much more power the TT is making at that same RPM. almost twice the amount of power. and good luck getting some torque out of a small displacement N/A engine...your dyno sheet will look like a tuned civic. there is absolutely nothing wrong with N/A but for performance reasons it is inferior to the same motor Forced Inducted! 1viadrft 12-08-2005, 08:25 PM LoL Who says I'm comparing NA to Fi, retard? LoL k3smostwanted 12-08-2005, 08:47 PM LoL Who says I'm comparing NA to Fi, retard? LoL no one retard...i wasnt talking to you, you senile old fucker! 1viadrft 12-08-2005, 08:54 PM Where am I? k3smostwanted 12-08-2005, 09:07 PM Where am I? :eek7: 1viadrft 12-08-2005, 09:09 PM LoL k3smostwanted 12-08-2005, 09:31 PM LoL postwhore... so hows the TT swap coming? you havent gave us details on your plans! 1viadrft 12-08-2005, 09:36 PM What TT swap? LoL longlivetheZ 12-09-2005, 12:10 AM man around here 2 pages is nothing... threads don't tend to die out for a long time because people always go way off in different directions that are completely off topic... you get used to it after a while lol Cuz, more than anything, we are all friends and have been talking to/with each other for quite a while. There are a lot of us on here that are pretty veteran posters and this is really the ONLY place we post. Sure...we venture off from time to time, but for the most part, we stick to our forum, the PZC forums. This leads to us just ending up bs'ing about stupid side topic shit that drags threads out for quite a while from time to time. I've noticed this too. It's ok...it's good shit. Try to find another forum that's like this one...I dare ya... medic300zx 12-12-2005, 11:01 AM I have searched many Z forums prior to this one and this is THE BEST DAMN ONE OUT THERE - Check it faithfully like email longlivetheZ 12-12-2005, 05:25 PM This is the only forum I regularly look at. Have been coming here for years. Broke_as_**** 12-12-2005, 05:30 PM I'm mostly here for the free parking. Yaggus 12-13-2005, 05:41 AM I'm mostly here for the free parking. Hahahahaha... I like that :p medic300zx 12-16-2005, 02:49 PM Where else can you get free parking than here - We have many that sit, park and watch and others that drive onto the POST REPLY Highway Mr.INSANE 12-18-2005, 03:54 PM Holy Shit guys i think i might have scored a deal Datsun 280z Needs new oil pump and battery Price: $500 Oil Pump suggeste price in my victoria british magazine $50 Battery : $40 Total price :$590 k3smostwanted 12-18-2005, 04:54 PM Holy Shit guys i think i might have scored a deal Datsun 280z Needs new oil pump and battery Price: $500 Oil Pump suggeste price in my victoria british magazine $50 Battery : $40 Total price :$590 yeah? cool! Mr.INSANE 12-18-2005, 05:56 PM Its gonna be a merry christmas for me :) DeleriousZ 12-18-2005, 06:08 PM that kicks ass dude! Mr.INSANE 12-18-2005, 06:30 PM I should have it by this wednesday ill be sure to post pics longlivetheZ 12-18-2005, 07:58 PM Damn RIGHT! vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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