I want to know why nobody really tries to make accords fast??? I mean people race pintos for goodness sake why can't we make a fast accord?? and with out doing motor swaps thats the easy way out!! in other words cheating!!:D

I want a clean look because that gets more attention than a fast car. A fast car certainly does get attention, but not unless your racing. A clean looking car gets attention all the time when you're out drivin and cruisin around. And a fast car will get you in trouble. I don't care how many radar dectectors you have you're still gonna get caught; it's just a matter of time. At 100 MPH, you are traveling 146 FEET PER SECOND. If someone pulls out in front of you 500 feet away, you have less than 5 seconds to react and slow down. You better have some damn good brakes.

Originally posted by 93speed
I want a clean look because that gets more attention than a fast car. A fast car certainly does get attention, but not unless your racing. A clean looking car gets attention all the time when you're out drivin and cruisin around. And a fast car will get you in trouble. I don't care how many radar dectectors you have you're still gonna get caught; it's just a matter of time. At 100 MPH, you are traveling 146 FEET PER SECOND. If someone pulls out in front of you 500 feet away, you have less than 5 seconds to react and slow down. You better have some damn good brakes.


you need some balls to back up all the atention you are getting.

i agree with 93speed. i got a 91 accord because it looks nice(especially for how old it is). not to mention i didnt have alot to spend, and ANY other older car, imo, looks like a literal box on wheels. its possible to make an accord faster, but not fast when compared to many car out there used for racing. i know someone with a h22 w/turbo, but still gets smoked by my friends integra-r.

overall i think of accords as show cars. if you seriously want to be able to compete with cars other than accords, youll probably need to take off as much weight as possible and of course get a swap with some sort of forced induction.

but then again, wtf do i know:D my ride is pretty much stock, but it gets me to work.

Originally posted by Got Boost?

you need some balls to back up all the atention you are getting.

If I want a fast car, I will go out and buy a supra or something that was made to go fast. I like how clean Accords look. If somebody wants to race, I'll let them look like a jack-ass and get a ticket. Call me a pussy, but all the money wasted on tickets could be used for something useful.

with 93speed.
I've spent about $1000 on ticket i've gotten..
and im just about to turn 18...
i could have done alot with that money i wasted..

You freakin morons you deserve the ticket if your racing on the street!! I was talking about a race car accord for the strip!!!:rolleyes: "its possible to make an accord faster" We will see about that in the near future.... as for motor swaps if you have to swap the motor in your car to make it faster you obviously don't know any thing about speed or how to make a car faster...

Originally posted by ShockJon
"its possible to make an accord faster" as for motor swaps if you have to swap the motor in your car to make it faster you obviously don't know any thing about speed or how to make a car faster...

Well some of us actually have miles on our cars.....168,000 for me. You want to slap a turbo or Nitrous on that? Good-bye engine.

Originally posted by 93speed


Well some of us actually have miles on our cars.....168,000 for me. You want to slap a turbo or Nitrous on that? Good-bye engine.

rebuild or swap the engine

Originally posted by ShockJon
You freakin morons you deserve the ticket if your racing on the street!! I was talking about a race car accord for the strip!!!:rolleyes: "its possible to make an accord faster" We will see about that in the near future.... as for motor swaps if you have to swap the motor in your car to make it faster you obviously don't know any thing about speed or how to make a car faster...
what can you do to an accord without swapping, and be able to compete?

I will bet you that I can have around 200 to 225 hp AT THE WHEELS by the end of the year and spend less money than you will spend on a motor swap!!! Then I will add the N2O which will put me over 300 at the wheels on the shot!!! And yes this is all with the factory 2.2L accord motor!!! I just like every body else need a little time to come up with the money... I am going for mid 12's "yes in the 1/4 for the smarties out there:silly2: " with full interior!!! We will see thats all I can say.. I know a lot of people talk a lot of BS about there cars but I am trying my best to be serious here.... I have some friends at a performance shop around here and they are ready to do it Just as soon as I get the money it is not far fetched.... I just think it is rediculous to go through all that trouble with a motor swap when you have one that WILL work perfectly fine... Oh by the way I am at 155K on the speedo.... ;)

And its a automatic for those who don't already know! :toothless

Take this how you want to, but I'll believe it when I see it.....:apoke:

all this looks and sounds good. i am really enjoying the debates on the accords it makes me happy to see ppl that love their cars.

now i do somewhat disagree on a lot of the thngs that have been said here. i have a 90' accord with a f22b DOHC in it and yes i said DOHC with a t3/t4 hybrid turbo slapped on that bad boy. i make roughly 215-225 at the wheel when i drive with the option to run around 275-300 when i up the boost, now on a mostly street car that is INSANE and i know that but i love the idea, this all has costed me somewhere in the range of $2,500, and i do have nitrous to spool up my turbo so that i avoid turbo lag. now this is all nice and fun but i wanna know how u shockjon can say that....as for motor swaps if you have to swap the motor in your car to make it faster you obviously don't know any thing about speed or how to make a car faster????? lemme know

Originally posted by ShockJon
I will bet you that I can have around 200 to 225 hp AT THE WHEELS by the end of the year and spend less money than you will spend on a motor swap!!!
if thats possible thatd be awsome!!! but no offense, you seem to be talking a bunch of "beating around the bush" nonsense. as an accord owner and fan... what can be done to a stock engine, and run 12's???

btw, i was reading through a c&d magazine. and from what your saying, you want a time comparable with a viper srt-10???(being that its has a 12sec 1/4)

i would say my car is clealy modified....
its fast enough for me....well until i get behind the wheel of my dream car, my friends '99 BMW 323i. but i am happy just trading cars with him once and a while, otherwise i would be in trouble :)

ok first of all have you stock motor owners ever looked at your compression ratio?? it is 8.8:1 that is very low... So the first thing is 10.2:1 forged aluminum pistons which with higher compression you have instant HP.... Now you hook the pistons up to a forged aluminum rod... notice every thing is forged ALUMINUM which in turn is lighter which in turn revs quicker..... now you send off the SINGLE cam and have it hard faced by CROWER for race purposes which is more HP... Am I going too fast for you??? now you have the tranny rebuilt with the level 10 kit which will put your power loss down to like 12% WHich in turn is more HP!!! not with the forged aluminum rods and pistons you are able to run up to 150 shot of N2O SAFELY.... which the last time I checked 150 plus 150 equals 300... now I haven't even got the the port and polish, flow matching the head for exaust and intake, header, exaust, and of course the air fuel fuel controller... oh yeah cam gear too.... now then if you can't get 300 Hp out of that my friends you can't add... I have already priced all this I CAN do it cheaper than the H22 and I will have 0 miles on my motor!!! oh and a light weight flywheel but I am not counting that in the price or the torque converter built buy level 10 or the tranny controller cause all that is just bonus stuff that will put me over the edge...

And you were talking about the hassle of a h22 swap :confused: From what I understand its plug and play; not tearing the damn engine apart.

All of this looks good on paper, but they also say an intake adds 15 HP which we all know is advertising BS.

Be sure to post the results of your dyno run. I'm curious to see just how much you get out of it.

Oh I almost forgot, have fun :smoka:

"plug and play" The only person that I actually know that has done a H22 swap round here had some problems with his wiring harneses and stuff like that it took him and a shop over a month and a half to get it running.... that doesn't sound like plug and play to me!! ;) And as far as the intake making a proclaimed 15hp I am not talking about changing my air filter I am going to go to the inside of the motor where the Hp is created and put it to goo use..... Thats a little more than a intake!!!

p.s.
I am ejoying actually haveing a dicussion with all you AF folks!!! :D This is fun!!! :D

I was making a comparison of what the HP gain is expected to be for the parts. You expect your HP to be 300 with those parts. Whether you get even close to that can't be determined until you dyno it.

Basic math my friend thats all it takes.....
If I am stock with 125hp with the tranny loss at 25% which is probably close I will be at about 94wHp... now the difference between a DX and a LX according to HONDA is the exaust... So by the time I do a header and exaust that at least puts me at 20Hp gain at the crank... with intake maybe 25Hp gain... So now I am up to 150Hp at the crank - 25% =112.5wHp.... no lets go inside pistons and rods with a 10.2:1 com ratio are going to add at very least 20 more Hp probly more but for argument sake.... So now I am at 170- 25%+127.5 whp at the wheels.... now flow matching and port and polish is going to add up to 20 more Hp... 190-25%=142.5 whp now then lets work on the cam that going to be 10 to 15 more with a gear so now we are at 200Hp at the crank... -25%=150Whp.... Now then considering I used skimpy numbers on the pistons and stuff I just met my goal!!! Now lets get into the tranny... Level ten shift kit.... That according to them and other people who use them that will put me equal to a 5 speed with a stage 3 racing clutch!!! That means I will be at around a 13 to 15% power loss..... Now take 200Hp -15%= 170Whp..... All motor... don't forget the skimpy numbers to get to this!! now lets add a little 150 shot of N2O.... According to many many dyno's that I have sen and others have seen N2O puts at least the shot number of Hp TO THE WHEELS!!! Now I am not saying that is every time but with the motor set up properly and breathing right it is very possible to see a bigger number..... Now then I am going to rest my case for now and see what all you folks can come up with to shoot my dream cloud down with next!!! lol!!! I know that the dyno numbers are the real thing but the way I have said all this is as close as you can get without really doing it.... Soon we shall see!!! and I can't wait!!! ;)Oh yeah and as for the mid 12's all that takes is massive weight reduction!!! ;) and a set of slicks...;)

what level10 kit are you talking about... is it the "performance auto transmission"?

Honestly dude, you keep on adding, if it makes you feel better.. Honestly I do see the possibility of getting 300 horsies out of that engine, but I dont think that your engine will last long.. Besides doing my math 300 is about the max that you can get out of that engine,, Get an H22SH Jspec and your at 220 STOCK... Only 80 less horsies than what you "PREDICT" Now you do the math... mmm and intake, exaust, cam gears and pulleys, should just about round 300 using your math... Gee and then you change pistons, rods, sleeves, cams, valves and springs, DAMN Watch out now!! Oh yea then spray your nos,, mmm I think we hit 400... Oh nows we upgrade our axles, and tranny... OMG then throw on a turbo, and we are at well over 500 to the wheels.... mmm, like I said you do the math.. Once you do like you say, you cant go any further, and you will be stuck in the 12's with your massive weight reduction, spend the extra 2200 bones and have your self the fastest accord in your area.... I promise you when you run your 12's it still wont be good enough for you, you will want more and there is no more room to work with... You will have to do the swap anyway, and the worst part is that those parts dont carry over to the H22, so if I was you I would ponder it a bit... I have spent the past 6 months weighing pros and cons. Last week I bought my H22...

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir
Honestly dude, you keep on adding, if it makes you feel better.. Honestly I do see the possibility of getting 300 horsies out of that engine, but I dont think that your engine will last long.. Besides doing my math 300 is about the max that you can get out of that engine,, Get an H22SH Jspec and your at 220 STOCK... Only 80 less horsies than what you "PREDICT" Now you do the math...
wooh, well said. preach on:D :D

on a little side note. in the first post you mentioned a swap as "cheating". if you consider that cheating to an easy hp gain, what do you think a 150shot of nos is???

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir
Get an H22SH Jspec and your at 220 STOCK... Only 80 less horsies than what you "PREDICT" Now you do the math... mmm and intake, exaust, cam gears and pulleys, should just about round 300 using your math... Gee and then you change pistons, rods, sleeves, cams, valves and springs, DAMN Watch out now!! Oh yea then spray your nos,, mmm I think we hit 400... Oh nows we upgrade our axles, and tranny... OMG then throw on a turbo, and we are at well over 500 to the wheels.... mmm, like I said you do the math..

You sir are the type person I call not too bright... If you can get 500Hp at the wheels with your Prelude motor for less than $5000 including the price of the motor and swap, I will gladly pay for your dyno to see it!!! And once again I say If you have to swap the motor in your car to make it faster your not a very good judge of buying cars.... You should of bought the prelude to start with!!! oh and you think you are getting that 220 at the wheels and you can get 8- more just with those couple of bolt ons, then I should be able to get way more than I predict....

You need yo get your butt dyno recalibrated!!!:cool:

Originally posted by ShockJon


You should of bought the prelude to start with!!!


Then why didn't you get a fast car to start with :confused:

Hypocrite! :finger:

I never said anything about getting all that horse for less than 5000, and who are you to judge my taste in cars and engines, I simply gave a little advice, you are straight out chastising me... If I wanted a prelude I would have bought one, instead I got a fricking accord... I was stationed in Japan for 2 years and seeing what an Accord SIR was capable of was impressive.... Next I dont recall saying an H22 swap was cheating, after all how could it be cheating when the car was manufactured with one in it?

Thank you 93speed, and strodda, well said....thank you!! And just to clear up my situation, I actually bought the Accord for the wife, before I knew that imports were hitting the streets and that they could be hooked up... So I kinda stumbled onto something.. And 2, I spent 2 years living in Korea, so I really had no idea what was going on in the states... I'm in the Military.. hence the Army Airborne

Originally posted by ShockJon
You sir are the type person I call not too bright... If you can get 500Hp at the wheels with your Prelude motor for less than $5000 including the price of the motor and swap, I will gladly pay for your dyno to see it!!! And once again I say If you have to swap the motor in your car to make it faster your not a very good judge of buying cars.... You should of bought the prelude to start with!!!

well first of all, saying that everyone who has a swapped accord is a bad consumer is being ignorant. personally i like how accords look, more than i do preludes. and as wagsaccordsir stated the accord sir has a h22. and since everyone is so in love with throwing around the words "jdm" nowadays, you should understand that technically a h22 is an accord engine as well.

and secondly, i would still like to know why you consider swapping as cheating?? i would think cheating could be classified as someone installing a mini rocket such as a 150shot of nos.
when people brag about their 1/4 times, they ALWAYS mention "all motor", so it would seem to me that nos would be thought of as unfair, or "cheating" as it has been put.

and one more thing. the hp youre claiming(maybe attainable, but thats beside the point), is only for a brief moment. you cant drive around with nos constantly flowing through your system. i would prefer having an overall tuned engine for daily driving, rather than a hollowed out car w/nos seeing as how that only comes handy for 12sec's down the strip. if you did everything you talked about with a h22, you could probably win without nos. now im not a big racer, but it seems a lot more impressive without the boost.

and now im hot as shit and tired from work:o , so i gosta lay down. have fun y'all.:D :D

The last time I checked I don't live in Japan and my car was manufactured in the USA.... now all the accords that I know of in the USA are not SIR's they are slow they are not from Japan... Now then.... I never said my car would be gutted, it will have full interior..... And I said at the begining of all this that I would do all this for LESS money than you will spend on the swap..... and futhermore I won't even start on why I choose N2O over turbo or s/c.....

p.s.
No hard feelings to anyone I just like the hardcore discussion... So for those of you who might want to strangle me I am sorry..... :o
But I am still right!!!:sun: LOL!!!!!

Quit arguing and get it done already!!! :finger4: ...So we can see the dyno results :devil:

:D

I have made my case and now I am finally going to shut up about it until I Dyno..... All I need is about $3500 to be complete with it.....
Thank you and good bye..... :lol2:

I am thinking about starting another argument about N2O vs Turbo vs Super Chargers.... If any one is interested let me know!!! :D

Hahaha sure, do it in that particular forum and let Drift argue with you.... :finger:

Originally posted by 93speed
Hahaha sure, do it in that particular forum and let Drift argue with you.... :finger:
damn that sound like a great idea!!!:D i wont be able to argue very well, but watchin drift at work sounds like a show.

damn,this thread is still going:D

If you are looking to increase power after you do all those mods to the stock engine in your 4th gen accord. I suggest you get larger valves... I don't know much about the heads on the 4th gen, but it is still SOHC...

One of the main reasons you can get so much more power out of the H22 is because it's DOHC... more air and fuel moving in and out... the more power. :)

I can't believe you even have to ask this question.. but we ARE on a Honda forum, so I guess we should assume that riceboys are drawn here like magnets..

im not sure what class i fall in. i guess ive gone rice by gettin a full WW kit and 18's, kept it clean by gettin all clear lighting and red-clear tails and no stickers or emblems...hell i dont even have an antenna. shortly it will be fast or faster, in the next couple weeks i am buyin my jdm h22. so i guess im gonna be alil bit of everything. only reason i am pretty much goin ahead and gettin a h22 is becuase i plan on keepin my car for a while and the f22 auto aint cuttin it, i dont like autos and so i figured while im wastin money to get it changed to 5 spd....might as well spend the extra and get everything i want done too.

I seen some pretty fast ACCORDS.. so don't make assumptions.. when they are not CORRECT. i think others in AF will agree with me.

Originally posted by StageOneGalant
I seen some pretty fast ACCORDS.. so don't make assumptions.. when they are not CORRECT. i think others in AF will agree with me.

Whats not true???

Accords can be verry fast. It depends mainly on the year model though due to different sized engines. I had a 94' accord 2.2 l. engine with intake and exhaust and 2 tornado "superchargers". These are the basic upgrades for any car and this accord would hang with mustang gt's. With new headers and minor other mods especially noz, i would have been running 12 to 13 sec quarter miles. Not bad for a 94'. It all depends on how much you want to invest in the engine instead off all on the interior and exterior. All a matter of preference.

I'm not sure I follow what you are saying??? I think I am reading this right that I can get intake, header, and exaust then out one of those $70 apple choppers and a little N2O and be in the 12 to 13 sec 1/4 times?

wow I have really been missing out!!! so If I do all that I say I am going to do and all that you have said according to you I will be in probly the 6's or 7's hmm thats beter than I expected!!!

I want to know, what do you drive now? And where do you live? I would like to race you!

If you really think you can be in the 12's or 13's with what you listed I wanna see it!!! I will give you three car lengths! and I am still stock!:)

I will bet you that I can have around 200 to 225 hp AT THE WHEELS by the end of the year and spend less money than you will spend on a motor swap!!! Then I will add the N2O which will put me over 300 at the wheels on the shot!!! And yes this is all with the factory 2.2L accord motor!!! I just like every body else need a little time to come up with the money... I am going for mid 12's "yes in the 1/4 for the smarties out there " with full interior!!! We will see thats all I can say.. I know a lot of people talk a lot of BS about there cars but I am trying my best to be serious here.... I have some friends at a performance shop around here and they are ready to do it Just as soon as I get the money it is not far fetched.... I just think it is rediculous to go through all that trouble with a motor swap when you have one that WILL work perfectly fine... Oh by the way I am at 155K on the speedo....

Well i am a honda fan and i do currently own a 90 accord and yes i do think its a great car, but with 155k on car u will more than likely do a swap before souping it up with all the power. And if this is true u might as well just by a new car and work with that, because there are alot more cars out there that just have more potential. Ihate dogging on my own car but im sorry ta say but N2o is way too harsh for your car and honestly i feel bad for such a great machine when its getting beaten up like that.

You obviously didn't catch the part about "building the motor for N2O" then the motor can stand more N2O than I can afford to spray!!!
with forged rods and high compression forged pistons and a built head I can run all the N2O I want too!!! and never hurt it... and also by building the motor I will have as much or more Hp than the H22 and less headachs to make it work, and most importantly It will be what I want to do to my car... I am looking to spray 150 shot multi-staged when I am completely done.... And I did mess up with the end of the year thing It will take me a little longer to get the stuff done... ( I had some unexspected doctor bills ) and I also had to buy my wife a Lancer before she would let me touch her car!! :silly2:

dude, good luck with your project. I support crazy idea's like this. I just hope you won't fry or dent/bend your pistons the first chance it's out. post up the DYNO results ... !! can't wait ...

Originally posted by cowgod
dude, good luck with your project. I support crazy idea's like this. I just hope you won't fry or dent/bend your pistons the first chance it's out. post up the DYNO results ... !! can't wait ...

Ahh Support!!! Is that what this this is!!!???!!! YEAH!!! I am happy now I can die in pieces now!!! lol
Thanks man! I am serious its very hard for people to understand even just a little!!!
:silly2: :) :D :cool: ;) :silly2:

hey shock, that sounds great if you can get it to work. thatd be awsome to see that kind of performance out of a f22. personally ill just be taking the easy way out with a swap, just easier and i dont know much about rebuilding an engine.

i think my accord is pretty fast :)
probably because it's still new
when i slowly tips on the gas pedal it goes pretty quick..
btw, my accord is only a 4 cylinder but it's still good :P

Accords can be fast without doing a motor swap, Intake, Exhaust, Headers, Port And Polish, Different Cam,Advanced Timing,VTEC controllers, there are tons of things to make an accord faster. Theres also little things like good synthetic oil and higher octane fuel.

where can i get a new cam?? ive never seen any for f-series.

again it won't let me vote, but my car is VERY VERY slow, but it looks good right!? lol. With all the subs, springs, performance parts, kit, rims...my car is very heavy!

Well yes there are many things to make ur accord faster....personally i have this little trick to make mine go faster....don't tell anyone, but what I do is remove the floorboard below the gas pedal...that way I can push it down just a little further...I think it's good for about 10 hp....:p ;) :D

hehheh

-Kep

only thing slower than my accord is my civic :D

i got 94 accord that runs 15's

Originally posted by teamdb
i got 94 accord that runs 15's


Didnt you say in another post that you ran 14's? Which is it 15's or 14's? And what do you have done to your 94 accord. Cause I guarantee you if its stock, you arent running in either of those brackets. Not trying to put you down , but don't bullshit. If your getting them times I wanna know how..

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir



Didnt you say in another post that you ran 14's? Which is it 15's or 14's? And what do you have done to your 94 accord. Cause I guarantee you if its stock, you arent running in either of those brackets. Not trying to put you down , but don't bullshit. If your getting them times I wanna know how..

Perhaps he was talking about the 1/8 mile. Otherwise you are right.

Originally posted by ShockJon
I want to know why nobody really tries to make accords fast??? I mean people race pintos for goodness sake why can't we make a fast accord?? and with out doing motor swaps thats the easy way out!! in other words cheating!!:D
how is a motor swap the easy way out? Have you ever done an H22a swap? If you want it to be hard take the motor apart before you drop it in polish it and measure it out to exacts. I support your Idea but in no way is a motor swap the easy way out. hurts the wallet to.

Originally posted by Got Boost?



you need some balls to back up all the atention you are getting.

thats as real as it gets. all show but no go' it's not right. "why buy big condoms when you have a small dick??"

good lookin'

ALL SHOW and ALL GO here!!! Nuff Said!!

I have 2 accords, both are 90's. The first has nothing inside but one seat and the essentials no swap on the engine. I use that accord for racing i dont mean drag i mean real racing. The second accord has an H22A Euro R prelude swap with the ext/int all done and it is fast and looks great. People that drive on the street going over 70mph are stupid. You dont need huge brakes if you are going over 100 on a street. Even though i get my rush on the track i still now and then go over 100mph sometimes over 130mph on the HIGHWAY like an Interstate plus it is like sometime between 3 and 5 in the morning when i drive like that. And last i am a Cop and ill be honest as long as you dont drive stupid we wont pull you over for racing unless theres traffic or on a busy road and you are not going too fast. So please if you want to race, race on a track and not on the street. Its your choice to drive down Victory lane or Memorial lane......In a body bag.

Originally posted by KaotiXcorp2
I have 2 accords, both are 90's. The first has nothing inside but one seat and the essentials no swap on the engine. I use that accord for racing i dont mean drag i mean real racing. The second accord has an H22A Euro R prelude swap with the ext/int all done and it is fast and looks great. People that drive on the street going over 70mph are stupid. You dont need huge brakes if you are going over 100 on a street. Even though i get my rush on the track i still now and then go over 100mph sometimes over 130mph on the HIGHWAY like an Interstate plus it is like sometime between 3 and 5 in the morning when i drive like that. And last i am a Cop and ill be honest as long as you dont drive stupid we wont pull you over for racing unless theres traffic or on a busy road and you are not going too fast. So please if you want to race, race on a track and not on the street. Its your choice to drive down Victory lane or Memorial lane......In a body bag.

I'm sorry I gotta laugh at this. "We won't pull you over for racing unless theres traffic or on a busy road and you are not going too fast."

That makes no sense, what do you think that this is a Turtle Race Scene?

Then you say don't do it on the street do it on the track, when before that, you mentioned you do 130+ mph? Comon man I don't give a shit if its 3 in the morning or not. Your supposed to set the example as a professional in uniform even when out of uniform.
I do agree racing should take place on the track, shit happens and people get killed.

"People that drive on the street going over 70mph are stupid. You dont need huge brakes if you are going over 100 on a street. "

So I guess in that statement and your 130+mph statement you admit that you are stupid, becuase you went faster than 70 mph. I'm not saying that you are stupid, but I'm assuming. As far as the big brakes, well if their not necessary I would like you to please define? If I'm going 100+mph and I saw something in the road up ahead, I would want to slow down very quickly.

"The second accord has an H22A Euro R prelude swap with the ext/int all done and it is fast and looks great."

I wasn't aware that they made a Euro R Prelude, could you please expound and share your gracious knowledge?

Sorry to question so much, but I felt you were very vague and unclear, and if that was clarity, then it was ignorant, and I would have my doubts that most, if not all of your statement was in fact fallacie.

a few things one i am in college and getting my criminal justice degree and my mechanical engineering degree i work as a cop only because i make 35K a year while i am still in school. Second i drive on the MAJOR highway and no one is on the road when i drive normally if someone is i slow down (i just do it because i am young and dumb, honestly). Last i meant to say if you arent going over 100+ mph you DONT need huge brakes i mean it is a good investment but when you do the speed limit you dont need giant brakes. And finally, the euro R prelude is available at www.TPAutomotive.com they sell it and its a just like a type R engine with light weight pistons. rods. valves, etc..

Actually I think that may be a misprint, as it should be the Type S H22

I am a Maxima fan and as much as I hate Accords, I got to give it to you guys, Honda knows hoe to make an economic, nice-looking, reliable car.

how, not not hoe, my fault.

Okay??? Anyways you Accord guys are funny. I think that you all have great ideas on making an Accord faster. I've seen many a H22 swap in Accord's and I think that swap is bad ass but I just want to know what an Accord clocks on the 1/4 with the swap. Also I've seen a SOHC Civic that was NA run 10 sec so what will ShockJon's little dream clock??

Originally posted by Pick
I am a Maxima fan and as much as I hate Accords, I got to give it to you guys, Honda knows hoe to make an economic, nice-looking, reliable car. ok.......whats your deal? If accords are economy cars so is your maxima.

Originally posted by DblOvrhedCamron
ok.......whats your deal? If accords are economy cars so is your maxima.

How is that? My Maxima will walk all over you.

Originally posted by Pick


How is that? My Maxima will walk all over you.
thats the funniest thing I've heard all day. :D

Originally posted by DblOvrhedCamron

thats the funniest thing I've heard all day. :D

What are you running, dude. I wasn't trying to offend you, BTW.

What I find funny, is that you drive a Maxima, and yet you continue to hang out in the Accord forum. Apparently you have and undying interest or an envy to be here. Of course your welcome here, but surely you have ulterior motives when coming here. Surely it couldnt be to "Pick" fights could it?

No, I'm just trying to get an insight on aftermarket tuning other than Nissan. Its cool to see what kind of times and engine setups other people are running.

Originally posted by Pick
No, I'm just trying to get an insight on aftermarket tuning other than Nissan. Its cool to see what kind of times and engine setups other people are running.

I can respect that, but leave it at that.

You have come in here made bland attacks towards Accords on several occasions. "Oh my Maxima will walk all over your Accord" Blah blah!!
Not what I would call having an interest or seeking tuning info, and you surely wont get die hard tuning info out of the Accord forum, maybe "Lets get Technical or JDM Engines" and shit.

Sounds to me like you hold some animosity towards some proud Accord owner in your area who handed you your ass to ya on a plate and now you have a undying interest to find out why as it eats at your pride everyday. Opinion not fact! So dont bother flaming me!

Hell dude, me and you have had our arguments on who ran a faster 1/4 mile amongst other things; all in this one ongoing thread.

Its just get old ya know, you look like your out here taunting. I have told ya that if you wanna meet up, I would be more than glad to show you what an Accord is capable of.

I don't blame you for voicing your opinions about your Maxima, they are nice cars, and V6's are generally fast. But you come in here with this blind inferiority complex that your V6 can walk any "weed eater" on the street. More power to ya, keep on smokin the Briggs and Stratton; if it makes you feel better to stroke your own gloat by all, but don't come here flaming because you dont want to admit that a "weed wacker" can take you on occasion from light to light. I know it must hurt, just think of the guys with the V8's that get smoked by us little weed eaters, surely that has its impact on pride.

Leave it alone dude, your fighting a fight that is pointless. Who cares who has a faster car, my feelings wont be hurt if you smoke me, hell I'll even shake your hand and congradulate you.

Your Maxima I'm sure is tight, most of them are, but the bragging would be better suited in the Maxima forum, or would that be too redundant.

If you wanna talk Accords I'm all for it, but when you start pitting it against the Maxima, you just left your original intent behind.

Sorry if I did not make sense but its 5am and I'm on my way to work... Peace!

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir


I can respect that, but leave it at that.

You have come in here made bland attacks towards Accords on several occasions. "Oh my Maxima will walk all over your Accord" Blah blah!!
Not what I would call having an interest or seeking tuning info, and you surely wont get die hard tuning info out of the Accord forum, maybe "Lets get Technical or JDM Engines" and shit.

Sounds to me like you hold some animosity towards some proud Accord owner in your area who handed you your ass to ya on a plate and now you have a undying interest to find out why as it eats at your pride everyday. Opinion not fact! So dont bother flaming me!

Hell dude, me and you have had our arguments on who ran a faster 1/4 mile amongst other things; all in this one ongoing thread.

Its just get old ya know, you look like your out here taunting. I have told ya that if you wanna meet up, I would be more than glad to show you what an Accord is capable of.

I don't blame you for voicing your opinions about your Maxima, they are nice cars, and V6's are generally fast. But you come in here with this blind inferiority complex that your V6 can walk any "weed eater" on the street. More power to ya, keep on smokin the Briggs and Stratton; if it makes you feel better to stroke your own gloat by all, but don't come here flaming because you dont want to admit that a "weed wacker" can take you on occasion from light to light. I know it must hurt, just think of the guys with the V8's that get smoked by us little weed eaters, surely that has its impact on pride.

Leave it alone dude, your fighting a fight that is pointless. Who cares who has a faster car, my feelings wont be hurt if you smoke me, hell I'll even shake your hand and congradulate you.

Your Maxima I'm sure is tight, most of them are, but the bragging would be better suited in the Maxima forum, or would that be too redundant.

If you wanna talk Accords I'm all for it, but when you start pitting it against the Maxima, you just left your original intent behind.

Sorry if I did not make sense but its 5am and I'm on my way to work... Peace!

I have mad respect for the Accord's with V6's and Engine swaps. My mom and my brother both have V-6 ones. My mom has a 2003 v-6 and it can just about stay with my car, except my torque eats it up off the line. I was responding to that guy in jest, not disrespect. I'm sure he has a fast car and I'm sure you do too. Just friendly competition. I'll cut back on it, though.....

Peace

i wanna see a fast f22, but i guess my hopes are low. i really don't see more than 160 hp all motor from it. j32a2 anyone ?:D

Originally posted by B16EJ1
Okay??? Anyways you Accord guys are funny. I think that you all have great ideas on making an Accord faster. I've seen many a H22 swap in Accord's and I think that swap is bad ass but I just want to know what an Accord clocks on the 1/4 with the swap. Also I've seen a SOHC Civic that was NA run 10 sec so what will ShockJon's little dream clock??

the accord will run a low 15 with the h22a swap and nothing done to it...

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir
"The second accord has an H22A Euro R prelude swap with the ext/int all done and it is fast and looks great."

I wasn't aware that they made a Euro R Prelude, could you please expound and share your gracious knowledge?



the ATR is powered by the h22a7 engine

running low 12's with a stock engine.
it's been done by an 88 accord hatchback.
stock engine, efi, but turbo'ed.
he's currently trying to run low 11's but it's hard.
u can check him out at www.3geez.com "88turboaccord"
or www.88turboaccord.net

Has he gotten it down to 12s already? I thought he hasn't been able to break mid 13s due to traction issues.

Originally posted by accordtunerx


the accord will run a low 15 with the h22a swap and nothing done to it...

properly tuned with a good driver, 14.8, I've seen it many times

How about a 91 Lx Coupe, JDM 92-96 H22a with Prelude 5spd ACT clutch, cold air, full exhaust (2.5"?), cams, cam gears, ignition, would you need an AFPR? Weight removal (back seat, spare, stereo, etc).
Would that only run a 15? Does anyone know a website with 4th gen accords, some are h22s, some are turbo'd, some are stock, I thought i had it marked, i cant seem to find it.

Originally posted by 1320B4U
How about a 91 Lx Coupe, JDM 92-96 H22a with Prelude 5spd ACT clutch, cold air, full exhaust (2.5"?), cams, cam gears, ignition, would you need an AFPR? Weight removal (back seat, spare, stereo, etc).
Would that only run a 15? Does anyone know a website with 4th gen accords, some are h22s, some are turbo'd, some are stock, I thought i had it marked, i cant seem to find it.

thats a lot of weight being removed, so no, I imagine that would run mid 14s with all things being equal and sound, maybe less, a lot depends on the driver, but anyway you cut it, it will be a fast Accord

jm2c

depends on driver and also what parts you get and how much it weighs. cams vary a lot. you could probably hit 13's.

h22a in a civic=13 second bound...(h/b atleast) coupes are only a couple hundred pounds more...u can still get into the 13's tho.

hehe if i can only hit 16.5. future. mine isnt too slow, at least its lighter than the 5th gens.

personally, im happy i never see fast accords around. i want mine to be the only one! just kidding, but that is of great appeal to me: having a car no one expects to be fast and building it into an impressive performer.
i'll be going the h22a4 route with as low as possible mileage and a greater than modestly sized turbo. Anyhow, my 94 has great potential, it only weighs 2,770 at the moment, so it is not the ginormous (yes ginormous) beast everyone thinks it is. just writing this, my adrenaline starts to release becuase there is so much to do with so little time! anywho, my eyelids are closing and im not quite sure why i even wrote this so reeses pieces.

Depends on your definition of fast. I mean from day one, let's think about it here. Why would anyone modify and try to make an accord fast? Well from my view point that is easy. Reason being, (in the honda line of cars) civics are slower than Accords. And now my Accord is almost as light as one at 2700lbs. I mean even the new 2003 civic Si's are slow as ass and they look like mini vans...I smoke them all the time in a 1997 honda accord with just weight reduction and bolt ons. Any car you feel like modifying is fine. As long as you don't half ass it, just about any car could be fast. You could take a geo metro (please don't) and throw a reasonable engine in there and probably smoke a lot of people...In a Geo!!! so I think what people really mean is don't give into trends like Joe Camel and don't do a half assed job. You have to live with your car not me. You don't have to make your car abrecrombie you can make it fruit of the loom as long as do it well

well if anyone reads honda tuning Comptech has made an S/C for the accord v6 that ran times of. "14.7 at 97.38 mph, and 14.44 at 97.82 mph" 0-60 being 6.19sec. not too bad for a heavy car as the accord.. this was done to an 2001 accord v6.. 230 HP at the wheels at 6500rpm. I'm pretty sure with more mods to the engine this car could pull out a decent 280hp...

what more mods are gonna give you another 50whp? even with a different pulley to turn up the boost I doubt its going to happen.

nos and turbo.

my car is pretty quick. no lagg at all. my car is all stock and fine tuned. pulls hard in every gear for an auto...

shit I'm just gonna throw a V8 shortblock with a supercharger in my car and call it a night.

I own a 98 accord EX and i tried everything with it from a t3/t4 turbo with new piston rods and rings and it just wasnt fast enough.. so i swappppped it with a h22a and now i think it is good enough for now ..
the stock f2.3 has maddddddddddd torque but thats it holmes. i think the fastes i got was about 140 mph and it took a bit to get there. soooo thats why we DON'T make our accords fast with the stock f2.3.

i raced this turbo elise today, slow as hell. i can eat him alive at 4500 rpms. messed with him a couple of times without punching my gas. haha stuck my head out the window (racing spec 96's technique) and smiled. 4 lights and he never got me...i heard his rev limiter when he hit it.

i had a longer post but it got lost so damn. haha. i just like his turbo sound...pssssssssss chhhhhhhhhhhhh. hehe.

im not too slow

I got to ask what year was the Eclipse? Are you sure it was a turbo model?

actually i think it was a elise or vw. i have beaten a low base model eclipse before as well.

i say this car was 88-94...it has a hatch back style, sporty...i didnt get a good look cause he was always behind me trying to catch up. im pretty sure it was turbo. i heard it kick in, i had my windows down.

ahahahaha i got a f22a1 motor and i have aem v2 cold air intake dc sport header nologie spark plug wire bosh spark plug ,aem cam gear, new piston cam ger port polished coustom intake manifold coustom exhaust msd ignition ecu upgrade venoom 400 95 accord ex rims h22 trany in my f22 vavle job high performance radiator and i can hit 120 130 no problem and i run 14.1 13.9 best time is 13.9 oh yeah and i also have flywheel and stage 3 clutch:smile: my project is swapping vtec head on my non vtec and get vtec controler oh man thast gonna be sick1?1??!!

AZNDAWGCHOPSTIX

That is the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard. Go back to elementary school and learn how write a basic paragraph.

hey guy's i'm new.just thought i would give my two cents,haha.i think the accord is a very nice smooth lined car,and i originally bought it a few months ago cause i always thought they were pretty sweet.knowing the whole time that i won't be thru with it till it gets a thorough rebuild.i am pretty against the motor swap.don't get me wrong i would love to have an h23 or h22,but i would rather make something out of nothing,do what everyone says can't be done.makes me feel better.right now i've only got my audio video and a few engine mods,but am working on some fabricated parts for a turbo and some other ideas that i'm gonna try.it's just so hard to find any parts for these things,but that's what sparks the imagination and get you to build one-off custom fabs.and that's what it's really about,building something creative and imaginative that no one else has and you built yourself.i think it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks,remember man it's your time effort creativity and soul that goes into whatever it is you build,and if your lucky,it'll be an accord. :bigthumb:

93 accord ex 4 door
f22a6
ractive intake,stainless steel hose,platinum+4 plugs
msd 8.5's,custom fabbed exhaust downpipe back,pioneer deh7400
5 1/4 sony explod components in front,rockford fosgate z2 pushin
twin audiobahn 15" dvc comps.7" widescreen lcd on dash,playstation two
aem fuel rail,regulator,and venom fuel pump
in the process of--
intake exhaust and throttle body port and polish
fabricating turbo kit(not sure if i'll use it though)
building custom car pc(should have prototype done in a week or so)
future mods--
currently looking for cam for f22a6 please help!!!who sells them?
coilover suspension
17's(as soon as i sell mine from my truck)
venom 400
too much to list......only had car for four months,imagination hasn't peaked yet

To all,

Greetings. I'm fairly new to the board. I've got hopes and dreams to hop up my 92 Accord EX. Yeah, I've got an AT, 4 door Sedan. I've got a self-fabricated Air Intake. Regular APC cone filter on a 3" Diameter 3" length Aluminum tube to 2.5" mandrel bent aluminum tubing. Made it over a year ago. I just saw AEM's 3" to 2.5" CAI. Hmmm...maybe I was on to something. Anyway, I've also got a low temp thermostat, IAT switch, Tokico Adjustable Illumina R w/coil overs, Thermal catback (sounds and feels great...good low resonance) no-name brand upper strut-tower bar (front) and front and rear Suspension Techniques Sway bars. Car corners like it's got paws.

If any of you have heard of Larry Widmer, he's outta texas and runs I believe an 87-88 hatchbook civic, sohc, 16 valve, ported (ENDYN) & supercharged, forged pistons and ENDYN modified Wiseco Pistons in the 11s. It gives me hope. Yeah, I've been going back and forth on to Swap or not to Swap.

Now Race Engineering (www.raceeng.com) sells custom Wiseco 8.8:1 Pistons and Pauter Forged Rods. An old acquiantance of mine from a local Import Shop tells me that both the Accord and Prelude have Ductile Iron sleeves and it would still be necessary to re-sleeve both engines (F22A & H22A). It can be done with the F22 engine but you're looking to spend more money. Let me re-iterate, "It can be done" you've just got to be willing to spend the money and/or time. With the H22 series you've already got 180-190hp to the wheel stock. That's an extra 40 horses already stock mind you.

Honda Trannies from what more experienced import racers and rebuilders have told me are some of the best in the business. For that added torque and performance it would still be a good idea and possible to get it bullet proofed at a reputable auto tranny shop (one that has its own in house project race/drag auto tranny car). Even they tell me to build up my engine first then come see them to outfit the car with the kind of tranny to compliment my powerplant.

Maybe everyone already knows all this. I'll just keep quiet now.

Try www.Gude.com for a performance camshaft for the SOHC F22A6.

I have a 94 accord EX VTEC Coupe with a cold air intake, headers, cat back exhaust, plug wires... soon i will add a new throttle body and I already have a fuel pressure regulator, Mugen Chip, and Fuel Rail... Even with just the intake, headers, exhaust my car is over 200 HP and I can notice a huge difference in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears... I can go 120 in 4th gear now... It is not slow, It might not contend with turbos and superchargers but my sleeper is quiete a nice car... I contended with a Stock Mustang GT the other day.

2.2L 4 right? Your lucky if you got 155 crank HP, maybe what...about 120 HP at the wheels. Oh, and all GT's from 87+ run under 7.0 sec 0-60mph, all lowend. IF you had an H22 you might be able to take one, it would come down to driver, unless of course your one of the people who think starting something with an 88 GT with 200k on the ticker running on 4 cylinders is a real race. You can go 120mph in 4th? how long does it take to get there? 30, 35, 40 seconds? yeah, thats something to brag about when a new full size chevy will rip you a new one.

Dadgum! Someone get up on the wrong side of bed? Well, the age and wear on the Mustang is a guess for everyone. Maybe he did and maybe he didn't at the same time. We weren't there, he was. If he's exaggerating so what. We all try to live our lives no need to get harsh on one another for dreaming if we are or wishfully thinking. Where's the gain in popping someone's daydream or trying to censor someone if they're telling the truth? Who's gain? There's definitely loss! Everyone, just quit trying to get into everyone's business or trying to be a bad Dad. Be a "good Dad" if you're gonna try and Pops somebody.

"Patience Daniel-san" as Miyagi once said.

:cool:

mustang sumshtang... my stock honda butt raced a 'stang the other week. Left him in the dust.... either he had NO idea what he was doing shifting wise or his car really stank probably both.

This thread has become HILLARIOUS!!!

Not to pop anybody's bubble Doc (youre very philosophical) but 200 hp from just ihe? On a 94 Accord?!? Dont get me wrong, I love the 5th gen Accord. had one myself and she was damn quick, but to jump 60hp from ihe is out of the question. If you have a 180hp 4 banger 03 Altima and add ihe, you might pull about 200 crank, 175ish to the street. I'm glad the man can dream though. Keep on moddin. One day you'll put 200 to the pavement.:bigthumb:

And also, somebody said something about a H23a engine? What is this out of and where the hell have I been. Is this a JDM engine? Or a typo for F23a? He had already listed H22a:confused:

The H23 is a legitimate engine came in earlier Preludes and is basically an H22 without the VTEC. Its still a DOHC. They say the block is much stronger than the H22 but from what I have heard, the rods are really weak, so much from a strong bottom end.. I don't know all the facts but thats what I know. I'm and H22 guy.. And to the guy bragging 200 horsies out of a 94 Accord, bro you on crack, you are what defines rice... You have something slow and you add a few Autozone add ons and you think you have the fastest shit around.. Thats rice!! Seriously thats ignorant... IHE you would be lucky if it added a whole 25 horsies to that Accord. and whether or not you have VTEC, well we'll assume bragging rights and say you have VTEC so 145 stock and add your whopping 25 and you sit on 170 and that is not to the wheels either.. So where did you get the other 30? Your EBAY Mugen Chup? Please!! Spare me the argument.. The only thing I would believe that you could do to get 200 to the wheels, would be the engine swap, or turbo... I don't even think Nitrous would get you 200 to the wheels... When you come around my way look me up, I will show you an Accord with 200+ to the wheels... I will post my stats later as I'm at work... I have pictures to back up the product, I have time slips to back up the times and I have certified vehicle weights to assist in the formula... I can't dyno the car as its sits to low and to get on a dyno well quite frankly I'm too lazy to adjust the coilovers just to prove something I already know... But anyways I'm not trying to flame just trying to.... Yea fuck it I'm flaming! LOL Quit being stupid, the only time you lie about you have, is when you have more than you want people to know. I never tell all my stats, I leave some for the element of surprise, plus it allows me the room to talk a little shit and always be able to back it up... Peace!

`J-Rok

P.S. to all my fellow AF'ers, I'm going to war here in the next few days, finally get my turn to play in the sand. It has been a pleasure being on here with you all learning, teaching, bullshitting and the occasional flaming... I'll be back in a year!!! I hope! See ya!!!

Peace....

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir
I'm not trying to flame just trying to.... Yea fuck it I'm flaming!

:lol:

Thanks for the info on the H23. Learn somethin new everyday. Good luck wherever you are to be stationed. Prayers are with you. If you're the one to find Sadaam, smack him around one good time for me!

that an the h23 are a lot bigger, there have been a lot of cases where the 23 doesnt pass even factory hoodlines so there is a lotta fabbin that has to be done first, but yeah the h23 is kinda like the b20 jsut kinda big an beefy

The H23 came in 92-96 Preludes. It is only .1 liters bigger than an H22(2.2L vs. 2.3L). It will bolt into 90-97 Accords and 92+ Preludes. For Civics 92+/Integras 90+ you would need a mount kit from HASport or the likes (or make your own). If you want a Honda turbo beast (15-20psi on the street) this would be the engine. Add forged rods, pistons, mild head porting, hi-rev kit, and a big ass turbocharger (and fuel, intercooling, engine management, ect.) and you would be in the realm of FAST cars (DSMs, Supras, 300ZXs, V8s) once you got traction off the line.

Originally posted by wagsaccordsir
P.S. to all my fellow AF'ers, I'm going to war here in the next few days, finally get my turn to play in the sand. It has been a pleasure being on here with you all learning, teaching, bullshitting and the occasional flaming... I'll be back in a year!!! I hope! See ya!!!

Peace....

Be safe!

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At 7.2 seconds to 60 and 148 mph, my accord is fast!! ;)

The Accord Type R here in the UK is 212 bhp... so pretty quick, don't you guys have that in the US?

The fastest stock accord would be one like mine. I try not to street race too much, but i do occassionally. Havent gotten any tickets so far, and i think im a damn good driver for being 16.

Originally posted by Head_Ed
The Accord Type R here in the UK is 212 bhp... so pretty quick, don't you guys have that in the US?


damn japan, No we dont have the Accord Type R in the U.S.

we have a car called the TSX witch Japan's body style of there 2003 Type R Accord. (NOTE: the TSX is from Acura in the U.S.)


Fun Fact: Did you know Japan's 2003 Type R Accords' are AWD.

Why are we gettin screwed here in the US??? Why can't we get Accord Type R too?:crying:

Originally posted by 00accord44
Why are we gettin screwed here in the US??? Why can't we get Accord Type R too?:crying:

I think we're being screwed because, the U.S. is greedy. Probably the reason why they split HONDA into Acura, Toyota into Lexus. The profit margin is much great that way.

The TSX has considerably less options/performance than the J-AccTR.
To compared, the TSX probably only sells for a few thousand dollars less in the U.S., than its counter-part does in J-Nation.
Which Maka Da Mo Money..



jb

I thought we had plenty of Type R's here in the US? Don't you guys look around? I swear I've seen at least a hundred Accord and Civic Type R's running around here in just Atlanta alone.

j/k :evillol:

I just bought a 94 accord ex with 120 000km not miles on it, I do not think is is a slow car at all. For its class it is realy peppy. But then again my previous car was a 94 Mitsu. Mirage with 220 000km, RIP:icesangel

Wow. The topic of this thread has changed so much, I was confused when you made a post that related to the original topic!:rolleyes:

Anyways, the 5th gen (my personal favorite) was pretty quick to me too. I had a 94 5 spd LX and that car could get up pretty quick. 0-40 seemed to take nothing but 4 seconds, it was the other 20 that dragged a lil bit. First gear was a monster!:eek: :wink: I miss my 5th gen, may she rest in peace at that big parking lot in the sky:frown: :icesangel

Originally posted by Plastic_Fork
I thought we had plenty of Type R's here in the US? Don't you guys look around? I swear I've seen at least a hundred Accord and Civic Type R's running around here in just Atlanta alone.

j/k :evillol:

Yeah me to i go to GATech plenty of rice out piece of shit Type R's here. They even have the nifty seat belt covers factory direct from japan. me i got mine off a wrecked type R accord. LMFAO

Originally posted by SimplyHONDA



damn japan, No we dont have the Accord Type R in the U.S.

we have a car called the TSX witch Japan's body style of there 2003 Type R Accord. (NOTE: the TSX is from Acura in the U.S.)


Fun Fact: Did you know Japan's 2003 Type R Accords' are AWD.


OHHHHHHHHH AWD ACCORD!!!!! DROOL.... DROOL...:worshippy
i want one
:feedback:
any websites i can read about this on???

Originally posted by Myrrdex



OHHHHHHHHH AWD ACCORD!!!!! DROOL.... DROOL...:worshippy
i want one
:feedback:
any websites i can read about this on???



I read it from a car mag. its a 2002 issue i know that.:biggrin:

if i remeber correctly, it a 6 speed tranny, and pumps 220hp..
thats if i remeber correctly....:bigthumb:

damn that sounds badass! again props the AWD Accord:worshippy

talk about Rice... naw talk about STUPIDITY...

I saw a chev-trunk with a GT-R emblem....
and a Ford Stang, with a bunch of import decals- I saw ALL/most the import stickers......

Accord Type-S Specs.



http://24.190.163.119:81/Accord%20Type%20R/Rear%20Top%20BIG.jpg

Configuration 2.4 Liter i-VTEC Inline 4
Valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves / Cylinder
Displacement 2354 cc / 143.6 cu in
Power 140.0 kW / 187.7 bhp at 6800 rpm
Torque 140.0 kW / 187.7 bhp at 6800 rpm
Bore 87.0 mm / 3.43 in
Stroke 99.0 mm / 3.90 in
Compression Ratio 10.5:1
Bhp / Liter 79.74 bhp
Redline Not Available
http://24.190.163.119:81/Accord%20Type%20R/Inside%20BIG.jpg

Chassis & Body:

Body / Frame Not Available
Steering Rack & Pinion w/ Power Assist
Brake Type Vented Front Discs and Solid Rear Brake Discs w/ Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD), Brake Assist, Mechanical Handbrake acting on Rear Wheels & ABS
Brake Size Not Available
Wheels F 40.6 x 16.5 cm / 16.0 x 6.5 in
R 40.6 x 16.5 cm / 16.0 x 6.5 in
Tires F 205/55R-16
R 205/55R-16
http://24.190.163.119:81/Accord%20Type%20R/Front%20Top%20BIG.jpg

Transmission:

Gear Type 6 Speed Manual
Final Drive 4.39:1
1st Gear Ratio 3.53:1
2sn Gear Ratio 1.88:1
3rd Gear Ratio 1.35:1
4th Gear Ratio 1.03:1
5th Gear Ratio 0.83:1
6th Gear Ratio 0.66:1


Performance:
http://24.190.163.119:81/Accord%20Type%20R/Engine%20BIG.jpg
Top Speed 235.0 kph / 146.0 mph
0 - 60 mph Not Available
0 - 100 mph Not Available
0 - ¼ mile Not Available
EPA City / Highway Not Available


http://24.190.163.119:81/Accord%20Type%20R/Mirrror%20BIG.jpg

http://24.190.163.119:81/Accord%20Type%20R/Side%20Big%203.jpg

^

I think I need to clean my shorts now...

Accord Type-S -- ..nice..

Now if I'm not mistaken, that is just a pumped-up Acura TSX (sold in Japan as the Accord) Don't you just love how car companies make specific cars for the US :shakehead They think all we want is oversized, (mostly) ugly cars with large engines instead of high output per liter engines with a nimble chassis. And what is up with the huge expanses of sheet metal between the top of the tires and the hood and rear trunklid. Put your hand over the front half of the JDM Accord, and take a long look at the rear. Even with stock 16's and not much fender gap the car is disgusting; the rear half looks like a minivan from that pic.

Now if I'm not mistaken, that is just a pumped-up Acura TSX (sold in Japan as the Accord) Don't you just love how car companies make specific cars for the US :shakehead They think all we want is oversized, (mostly) ugly cars with large engines instead of high output per liter engines with a nimble chassis. And what is up with the huge expanses of sheet metal between the top of the tires and the hood and rear trunklid on imports nowdays. Put your hand over the front half of the JDM Accord, and take a long look at the rear. Even with stock 16's and not much fender gap the car is disgusting; the rear half looks like a minivan from that pic. It's rear is almost on par with the Civic Si's.

That is one beautiful automobile :eek:

an h23 can be found in a prelude, ive currently replaced mine with an h22a,

Accords have the same block as a prelude you just need to upgrade most of your parts and get a turbo for about 3 grand and you will be able to compete.

with 93speed.
I've spent about $1000 on ticket i've gotten..
and im just about to turn 18...
i could have done alot with that money i wasted..

well, to back this up, I turn 20 in february, and this p[ost is probably going to show everyone i will never learn my lesone, but in my 3 short years of driving, adding up, impound fees, lawyer fees and court costs, Ive given washington states economy almost 4k dollars(and this isnt including the hikes in my insurance). looking back, it makes me sick on how I could have a H22 in my accord, a built CRVTEC in my hatch, but no I gotta put that damn pedal to the floor all the time

"I CAN NEVER DENY A CHALLENGE" :evillol:

i hope in the US they make a sporty accord.. the accords now are so big and bulky.. the v6 with 6mt isn't enought to satisfy the majority of accord fans out there

Didn't the 97-00 Accord Type-R's come with the f20B?? Anyone have any info on what else was different from the type-r and the USDM accord?? Would like to make my 99 into a Type-R.

Well some of us actually have miles on our cars.....168,000 for me. You want to slap a turbo or Nitrous on that? Good-bye engine.

Oh contrare... I raced my '94 Integra on an normal basis with 210,000 origional miles on it... It is in how you maintain your car. Maybe not forced induction, but bolt-ons and some headwork can get pretty far. I was raised up in the muscle car scene and that is all I know is speed. I am the only one in my family who has started racing Honda and I do because they can take the abuse. I do respect your opinion about making the car look nice but I dissagree with the fact that it can in fact be fast. My accord is pretty close to being as quick as my Integra was when i sold it.

someone posted earlier about an accord w/ an h22 and turbo, that was still comparable to an integra gsr?? i have a 95 accord that i'm about to swap ( my engine got hydrolocked, and now it's shit), and have plans to put a turbo on it, and am kind of troubled to think that it would only be comparable to a gsr. did that gsr have a turbo?

Swap or Rebuild? well my 95 lx f22b lame @ 130hp my 95 integra non-vtec had way more torque/hp I am just a firm beliver on more hp/torque with a DOHC vs SOHC. you can get a h22a for 1900 with tranny&ecu rebuilding my motor with pistons/rods/cams/(port and polish $800 for that alone) just doesnt seem worth it. Im not gonna shoot nos in my 200,000 mile motor. Ive got intake & exhaust now maybe I might be up to 140-145hp. So in my postion I think its worth just putting more into looks etc.. wait till motor blows then H22a swap. Common what would you do?

I first bought my 4th gen accord for the looks. I was gonna get all the cool bodykits and wheels and spoilers ect. but as time went on the wheel size i wanted got smaller and the bodykit wasn't wanted anymore and more and more day to day i look into and order more engine parts. A large part of the accord owners seem to think they're more for looks then for speed, but these are the people who haven't researched and don't care about the Better half of the package. Sure the accord can be a good looking car if you do the correct mods and don't sticker the shit out of it but what fun is a flashy car with NO BALLS. Just my personal opinion but i know through hours and hours of research that it is very very possible to make the accord fast w/o a swap and i intend on finishing mine over winter, but to each his own and have fun doing it....

I thought I'd chime in on this topic since it's near and dear to my heart :smile:
I own two Accords. One 1990 EX that came stock with 130HP and with some bolts on mods is now at 150HP. I also own a 1995 EX that has a 1994 JDM H22A Prelude Engine. The engine came stock at 200HP and is probably at about 210 to 220HP now. Needless to say the 95 H22A Accord is much much faster and more powerful than the 90 F Series engine Accord. The best 1/4 Mile I could achieve last season on the 90 Accord was 16.8 seconds. I haven't tested the 95 H22A Accord on the 1/4 mile yet because I just got it running last month and now have to wait for race season to start again in the spring (about 5 months away.)

Anyway, IMO both Accords are nice. For the money per HP it is less expensive to swap in an H22A engine into an Accord VS buying bolt ons. However, if you aren't going to race your Accord and don't care about going above 200HP then simple bolt ons are fun and a less expensive route and give you a bit more pep to your stock Accord.

The Accord will not be as fast as say a Civic HB because the Accord is around 3K lbs where as a HB can get down to close to 2K lbs. So you have to ask yourself what kind of car do you want? If it's just for racing and you want to go the fastest then buy a Civic HB or other light weight car. If you want a nice inexpensive 2 or 4 door car and race it occasionally then the Accord fits nicely and does very well against other cars in it's own class.

If you're interested then you can see both of my Accords at the link under my signature.

Peace :) Bruce

I dont think accords are slow anymore. Didnt u guys see the 2dr v6 6spd accords? Those things put out like 240 claimed hp to the crank. I dunno about u guys but i think that would smoke a lot of cars now. Only if the gear ratios are close together then it is like the ultimate race/luxury fwd car. Wait till they make some aftermarket parts for this baby.

you guys better not forget about the weight differences between ur accord and other cars when u race. Accords are luxury so they are heavy and Tegs are like sports cars so they are lighter. Accords werent exactly mean to be raced but Tegs i guess were sort of were. I also think doing a h22 into an accord adds a lil more weight. Think it is like 100lbs... but that doesnt really sound right since it is like the same series motor. I kno that h22s are like 300lbs heavier than b series motors or something like that. Im an Accord believer and ?enthusius? so i believe ill be seeing a lot of Accords on cover pages of mags. I already saw a 4-dr drifter on the cover so anything is possible. ACCORDS RULE!!!

Man i wish i could get faster without a swap, but ive got a second gen so theres no way in hell. ive got an 84 accord lx hatchback which came stock with the es2 engine. damn es2 makes for only 86hp and 99ft/lbs of torque. 3bbl carb isnt a real treat to deal with. i want to swap in something else, but its really hard to get help with the major lack of people doing any mods to 2nd gens. you dont see too many 2nd gen hatchbacks on the road so i really want to make this my project car. if anyones ever heard of any please let me know.

Not sure about 2nd gens, but head on over to 3geez and see if they can help you out:

http://www.3geez.com/

The general consensus for our 3rd gen Accords is the same though. If you want any real power, you need a motor swap for the older Accords. You'd have to rewire your car for EFI and I'm not even sure if anyone makes motor mounts that will fit your car. I know someone made B-series motor mounts for the 3rd gen's, but dunno about the 2nd gens.

I will probably end up selling my '88 Accord LX in favor of a 3rd gen LX-i coupe. It's already wired for EFI - just need the B-series mounts, a few other things, and drop a B-series in and go. Much easier than the headache I'd have to deal with rewiring my LX for EFI first.

And if you've got the money, a LOT of money, you can try a H22A swap. Someone on 3geez has an '88 LX and had to do all the crazy stuff I don't want to mess with, and THEN he did the H22A swap.

http://www.geocities.com/rick_spiff/car/index.html

There are also a handful of people on there that have done a B-series swap. I think one person even built a custom turbo kit for his 3rd gen.

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