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stupid a$$ questionnimitz23ky 10-24-2005, 01:26 AM i know this is going to be a really stupis ass question, but i am going to ask it anyhow....what is the difference, if any for an intake made for 95-99 neon with AT/MT tranny's...? if i get a MT for my AT will it still work? like i said, i am going to get beat down for this question....but, i would like to know the difference. i do have an rs akimoto intake, but want something different....not liking the rs any longer.... and another question. i have a hahn racecraft stage 2 turbo with intercooler already installed. how hard would it be, if at all possible to add another one to it. the fabrication part, i can do that. certified welder...worked in a machine shop from graduation in 97, until just a few months ago. had to move for my other job, so.....just, if you think it could be done, without detonation, let me know. even if it detonates, it would still be alright. can rebuild, this time even stronger.... current mods include: ur udp crane cams camshaft crane cams valve spring/retainer set aem adj. cam gear mopar performance pcm arp main studs eagle h-beam connecting rods obx throttle body spacer..(seems kinda worthless, but it was just 5.00 off ebay.) walbro 255 lph fuel pump 30lb injectors msd ignition msd coil nology wires nology plugs apexi turbo timer apexi super afc II egr block-off plate straight-through flow design cat driveshaftsop stage III axles je pistons sfi approved flexplate indy intake manufold high performance valve boby kit obx limited slip diffrential mpx 3" turbo muffler mpx blue throttle body high performance tranny kit moroso oil pan and a few other odds and ends for suspension...yeah, i know. alot of money to spend on a 96. i could have bought an SRT-4 and built it up a bit, but no....had to build this one first. maybe later....but, if you think the twin turbo design could work, let me know....it would be helpful das2123 10-24-2005, 09:04 AM what is the difference, if any for an intake made for 95-99 neon with AT/MT tranny's...? if i get a MT for my AT will it still work?There is no real difference. The only difference I know of is with the Iceman, but the tube just needs to be cut to fit. i have a hahn racecraft stage 2 turbo with intercooler already installed.How are you running an aftermarket intake with your turbo setup? Do you have any pic's of your engine setup? nimitz23ky 10-25-2005, 12:11 AM the intake was coming straight off the turbo, until i went to the intercooler. i just got it in. cost was outrageous, but it was worth it, i suppose. for the winter, i want to take the turbo off, because i have an itchy trigger finger and just know that spot of ice out there will have my name on it. so, i was wanting to know if it is possible to just run an intake for a MT on my AT.....normally i would not attempt to pull the turbo off, but part of me wants to see next spring too. just know i will kill myself with it....really bad winters here....no pics uploaded just yet. only get a few hours off from each job, and i don't like spending them all on here. will get them soon, though....so please, just hold your horses or whatever it is you want to hold.....will be uploaded soon nimitz23ky 10-25-2005, 06:36 AM to clarify the intercooler, cold air intake crap....the intercooler was supposed to have arrived and been installed by the time i got back from a trip....but, needless to say, it was not...just installed it today. i took a buisiness trip, the people helping with the car took thier own trip...intercooler is on now...and here i am going to take it all back off. but still, just wanted to know about. should have posted it in the first place, but just forgot about it...although, which is better? nos or turbo? das2123 10-25-2005, 08:24 AM which is better? nos or turbo?Define better...NOS is cheaper and a better bang for your buck, but you will have to refill the tank. You also don't have as many things to add. A turbo has to be installed with many parts, tuned, dyno'd, and other things but when it is all done, you are done! nimitz23ky 10-26-2005, 06:49 AM to define better......which is better for more HP? nos or turbo....i know i do risk certain detontation factors with a turbo, and the same for nos....but, i just want to know which is better for more HP....can i run both? or, do i then pose the risk of a major detonation the first time i hit them both at the same time.....back to the itchy trigger finger thing...i like buttons. i like to push them, when i know i should not. too many times when there was a shark right beside me....i mean i know you can have a super and nos runnng off one engine, but then again a super and a turbo are two totally different setups as well...i mean, my turbo looks so small compared to the super on my lil brothers camaro....but then again, his has a nice 5.7L, and mine just a 2.0L....big difference, but.....just thought i would ask. everyone seems very helpful here, so i figure i can ask just about anything....do want to say thanx for the air intake ? though..... das2123 10-26-2005, 08:38 AM Well if you believe the numbers, the Hahn Stage II kit puts out around 250-275HP at the crank for around $3000. A Basic EFI Nitrous kit. Comes with 35, 50 and 75 horse power jets for around $580. So on a stock DOHCX MTX neon if you were to use the 75 HP jet you would be around 225HP at the crank. Looks like NOS is just as effective and alot cheaper. And yes, you can run a turbo with nitrous. Do some studying and research. Nitrous is much safer nowadays than in the past. nimitz23ky 10-27-2005, 03:53 AM thnx for the tip, das....i know nos is alot safer then in the past. seen a few cars completely destroyed from the old setups. sometimes i still wonder about it, but....yeah, and i do kinda see the numbers from the turbo. not quite what they said, but if the boost is high enough, it starts getting close to the point of said numbers. i will look around, do alot of research before i even attempt to run nos with the turbo...don't want to do something, and kill myself the first time. just something i like, i guess. all the shinny buttons.... das2123 10-27-2005, 08:33 AM yeah, and i do kinda see the numbers from the turbo. not quite what they said, but if the boost is high enough, it starts getting close to the point of said numbers.I forgot to mention that is on 8 PSI. Turn up the PSI and you would see more. But then you get into rods, rings, pistons and other expensive stuff. nimitz23ky 10-29-2005, 01:13 AM i've already got all the rods & pistons for it. i used JE 8.8:1 pistons .020, JE piston ring set, and Eagle H-Beam rods....i still just run it at arond 8psi....not too sure about the setup, and sometimes, since i already have all this money invested into it, afraid to tear it up...but, i suppose that is just one of the cons to building such an elaborate car...all good things must come to an end....maybe if i do turn up the boost, but then, do i need higher compression pistons or not? das2123 10-29-2005, 09:47 AM maybe if i do turn up the boost, but then, do i need higher compression pistons or not?You shoule be good with your pistons. IIRC those are the turbo pistons right? nimitz23ky 11-01-2005, 04:00 AM yeah, they are the 8.8:1 turbo pistons. got them from modernperformance.com.....and so i tried to turn the boost up. had it close to 22psi...and i know it is just a little 4cyl.....but still, it was able to make think twice. it can handle it. so, not too worried about that. and yeah, those numbers were somewhere way back there. had quite a bit of power....still would be cool to dump it like that with a small NOS kit on it, though...i was thinking maybe a 35-70hp kit....nothing real elaborate, but a small does, just to see what it is capable of....probably scare the hell out of me, but hey, that's why we build them, huh? das2123 11-01-2005, 08:14 AM but hey, that's why we build them, huh?You should be OK with a 50 shot. Just don't overdo it! nimitz23ky 11-23-2005, 03:44 AM thanx for the help with this, das...local shop hooked it all up, with me watching everything of course. do not trust people with my shit...but, it is running from a 35 shot...really moves the car good. like it, and will probably keep it there. had to move the buttons for it all, though....wanted to let them both fly at the same time, tried it once...nice show....turbo running at 22psi, and nos at 35 shot...really put on a good show...have a set of 18" RVM Bomb wheels on it, with spinners. all of it together made the wheels turn, and when stopped, the spinners barely moved...getting ready to put in up for the winter, and let loose with the TSi AWD...it is a good car, but nothing like the neon...need another neon, i think....? but, just wanted to say thanx for the help. anything i find i need to ask, i will look you up, if that aight.... das2123 11-23-2005, 08:56 AM thanx for the help with this, das...local shop hooked it all up, with me watching everything of course. do not trust people with my shit...but, it is running from a 35 shot...really moves the car good. like it, and will probably keep it there. had to move the buttons for it all, though....wanted to let them both fly at the same time, tried it once...nice show....turbo running at 22psi, and nos at 35 shot...really put on a good show...have a set of 18" RVM Bomb wheels on it, with spinners. all of it together made the wheels turn, and when stopped, the spinners barely moved...getting ready to put in up for the winter, and let loose with the TSi AWD...it is a good car, but nothing like the neon...need another neon, i think....? but, just wanted to say thanx for the help. anything i find i need to ask, i will look you up, if that aight....Glad you got everything hooked up and hey that's what I'm here for, to help! You'd pick up some better acceleration if you lost those 18's and went to 15's. Something to think about, if you ever hit the track with it. nimitz23ky 11-28-2005, 04:34 AM never thought about it that way....yeah, the 18" add about 30lbs each...lot ot weight to be pullin around...never did think about that part. what, like a set of enkei or konig's or something of that attest...something light, right? will probably do that before next spring. when i am ready for a show, slam the 18's on it. wen just out, put the 15's back out...would probably make it go a lil better....again, thanx for the insight there. das2123 11-28-2005, 08:31 AM never thought about it that way....yeah, the 18" add about 30lbs each...lot ot weight to be pullin around...never did think about that part. what, like a set of enkei or konig's or something of that attest...something light, right? will probably do that before next spring. when i am ready for a show, slam the 18's on it. wen just out, put the 15's back out...would probably make it go a lil better....again, thanx for the insight there.The 15's will defintely help your acceleration than the 18's will, regradless if the overall diamter is the same. Some people want to argue that point, but it has not been proven yet. 18's for show, 15's for go :) vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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