Rear Sub-Frames

Hey, do you guys have any pics of the rear-subframe (where the gearbox and suspension is mounted)of these cars

Ferrari Enzo
Ferrari F50
McLaren F1
Jaguar XJ220
Porsche 962C
Mercedes-Benz Sauber C9
Toyota Minolta 88c-v
Jaguar XJR-9 LM
Mazda 787B

just pics of the subframes without the gearbox and stuff mounted. thankss

anyone??

Generally, no response means 'NO', at least not yet.

But why post this in the modeling forum?

because these cars are already really rare, and a pic of thier bare chassis and stuff is probably not on the web. so i thought, a model's rear subframe will do just fine especially one from tamiya :iceslolan

because these cars are already really rare, and a pic of thier bare chassis and stuff is probably not on the web. so i thought, a model's rear subframe will do just fine especially one from tamiya :iceslolan

A Ferrari Enzo is already rare?

in some cases, there's not much of a sub frame.
in the case of the F50, the engine/gearbox is a structural element and the suspension elements are bolted directly onto the gearbox.
a pic of the rear assembly of the f50 without the gearbox would just be a pic of the wishbones and the coils.

Something like this?

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=503/67954102_0204.JPG

My Tamiya 1/24 F50.

...well, he wanted to see the rear sub-frame (assembly) without the engine and gearbox.
if you take them away from your (gorgeous) model, you're not left with much, right?

Ah, I see. Just the welded steel itself? Yeah, for cars like the F50, Enzo, and 962, you can't remove the gearbox from the subframe, because the gearbox is the subframe.

Ah, I see. Just the welded steel itself? Yeah, for cars like the F50, Enzo, and 962, you can't remove the gearbox from the subframe, because the gearbox is the subframe.

And it's seldom steel on these modern race cars and supercars.

oo yea, so the gearbox is part of the rear sub frame?? then does anybody have pics of the gearbox subframe without the engine and suspension mounted??


wow that F50 powertrain loooks amazing. so yea, something like that pic with out the engine and suspension

the enzo isn't really rare, I meant cars like the Sauber C9, and 88c-v

in those cars, the gearbox/engine is a stressed member of the cars' chassis.
if you take away the engine and suspension, all you're really left with, is the gearbox.
it would help if you could tell us what/why you are looking at this area so we can maybe find/provide you with something that might be more relevant.

lol the enzo isn't really rare? weren't there only 400 made? a ford taurus isn't rare, but all those cars you want pictures of are. you could try googling it, some sites like rpsportscars.com have good pics of exotics.

ok you guys, this is exactly the type of picture I am looking for
http://truesdell.eng.uci.edu/scale_models/reference_photos/Sauber_C9/images/c9%20aeg%20monoque.jpg
you see how there's no engine and stuff. this is exactly the type of pics i am looking for. took me a while to find it, but yea that is what I meant

so does anybody have pics?

My guess would be 'no' once more.

and if you've found one, what's stopping you from finding more?

yea thats tru im gonna look some more