Bolt Kits?

I am looking for a complete bolt/screw/fastner kit for a 1973 240Z?

What is the name of the stuff you spray on the bolts so they dont rust, when you are putting them back in?

I need to wash my carbs, intake manifolds, etc. Suggestions on chemicals/fluids and procedures to do so? Also suggested container size?

L24 engine stand, from who and how much are they normally?

Thanks in advance.

I am looking for a complete bolt/screw/fastner kit for a 1973 240Z?

What is the name of the stuff you spray on the bolts so they dont rust, when you are putting them back in?

I need to wash my carbs, intake manifolds, etc. Suggestions on chemicals/fluids and procedures to do so? Also suggested container size?

L24 engine stand, from who and how much are they normally?

Thanks in advance.

not sure about the bolt kit...that might be a little difficult to locate. as for internals...ARP makes a bolt kit for just about everything.

as for cleaning...carbuerator cleaner will work fine. spray it generously and watch the dirt roll.

To make a long story short. This is a big project for me. Its the first time I have touched a engine other than filling my engine coolant. Sorry if I am stupid but I cant help it.

I am pulling the engine from my car. Going to check for cracks, burnt pistons. Everything in the manual says I am suppose to look for. I got that much.

What should I have my local speed shop due to my engine. What would you do? overbore, flycut, head gaskets

if you're looking for power, i'd turbocharge it... if you have any nearby graveyards see if there are any of the 280zx turbo's in there... the blocks of the two engines are the same, so swapping won't be a problem... i guess it depends on what your budget is and what you're wanting to get out of it... even adding a turbo and running low boost (3-5psi) will give you a good kick on the higher compression of the l24e, and shouldn't sacrifice reliability too much...

oh.. as for the bolt kit... i have no idea? i've never heard of something like that for the z's...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-240-260-280Z-280ZX-Engine-Stainless-Bolt-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46098QQitemZ7996011 147

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-240Z-260Z-280Z-Interior-Trim-Stainless-Bolt-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42612QQitemZ7994371 094

sweet... that would definitely come in handy..

I definetly want more power, budget inst a issue because neither is time. So can I take 280 heads and put them on my 240 and then run turbo?

I definetly want more power, budget inst a issue because neither is time. So can I take 280 heads and put them on my 240 and then run turbo?
just swap in an L28 Turbo with fuel injection.

if time isnt an issue, nor money...

RB20DET all day...best swap for a 240Z IMO. :D

youll need the fuel injection setup......
also ask your local "speed shop if they are familiar with the l series datsun motors.... if so cool port polish etc but if not no touchy touchy .... it takes someone who is wel experienced witht the l series to know how much to take from where and event then sometimes they dont get it perfect....
also you might have a good motor and carb set up to go with high compression
get a wild lift cam and ripo up 9000 rpms and make every boosted honda in your area drool as you rip past them.....

but thehn comes boost a little trickier to tune but a little easier to get everything to do it up......

but the things your local shop can do is to remove the pisons from the rods magnaflux, balance and shot peen them..... after that it depends on what your gonna do (how wild) and are you gonna boost it or not...... personaly id go with the high compresion since you have mnost of it.... but if you happen to come across a 80 to 83 boosted \280 theres your new parts baby..... but its now 2005 and there getting few and far between

ok im rambling on


either way turbo high compression either or the l series is a ripper

either way turbo high compression either or

or both... you should be our test monkey for a high CR low boost engine :D

When I said money wasnt a issue, I didnt mean I was rich. On top of this project I have a $620 a month truck payment and $240 a month insurance. If I want something I will save for it then get it. I am liking all the ideas that you guys are giving me.


On the RB20DET motor swap, correct me if I am wrong. The 240Z doesnt have a ecu and the RB20DET requires one. Which mean I would have to get a stand alone engine management system and there about 3 g's. Right?

well, if you're going turbo on anything, i suggest you convert to FI... adding an ecu does require a bit of work... but well worth it... it's much easier to get an ecu reprogrammed rather than trying to screw around with air/fuel mixtures with turbocharges on a carburated engine...

i guess it depends on how confident you are with running and spicing wires... if you can find a donor 280zx then you're in business, as it's just direct pull plug and play with the sensors... i think? actually i can't give you a 100% on that as i'm not sure what's required for converting the L2*E to an ET.. it's probably easier just to swap it out with an L28et that's already got all the sensors and such... but if you're into swapping and have a little time.. rb20det is definitely the way to go.. the engine itself is much cheaper than all of the other engines (aside from the L series which seem to be dirt cheap) and has tons of aftermarket parts for it..

mind you.. this will give you one FAST car... one of the mods used to have an SR20DET'd 240z running about 300hp and he was regularly hanging with c5 vettes... with an RB20DET you could easily surpass this mark if you felt necessary, but it sounds like you just want a bit quicker of a car, so the l28et (if you even want to do a swap) is the best way to go... if you don't even want to go in depth as that, you can always just get your l24 rebuilt with stronger internals and a higher compression and some upgraded carb's (twin SU sidedraft carbs :D) and that will get you going with a noticeable boost in power


or you could swap in a Nasty nissan v8 and twin turbocharge it... have the car running flat 9's on the 1/4 mile:sunglasse

RB20DET...all the way. other swaps are a waste in my opinion unless your kinda trying to keep the original L series.

just get a front clip from a R32 Skyline GT-S...whatever wiring you cant figure out, take it to a specialist. but im sure the wiring isnt all that sophisticated. virtually plug'n'play one would think. you will just need to pull the ECU and wiring harness out of the front clip and find a place to mount it in the 240Z.

http://www.vildinimotorsport.com/
http://www.sr240z.com/

that first place is located in california i think and they specialize in past Z swaps. also, there is a guy on AF that goes by the name of SR240Z...he would be a good person to discuss the details of this swap with. i am pretty sure he works at the shop i was talking about above.

i still don't get the design of the rb's intake system.... why the hell would you want it to go OVER the hot engine? it's beyond me..

i still don't get the design of the rb's intake system.... why the hell would you want it to go OVER the hot engine? it's beyond me..

im sure it doesnt effect hardly at all. its probably because nissan always puts their turbos on the driver's side so they had to get the piping over there somehow. :dunno: im sure they had it all thought out. :D

I have been looking at motors and have a question

RB25DET or SR20DET

Which is the better motor? Which one is the easiest fit? Could I use it with my recently rebuilt transmission that came with my 240z?

Still dont quite understand the ECU issue. There is nothing to plug from my car in to the engines ecu. So do I need to get a stand alone system?

I have been looking at motors and have a question

RB25DET or SR20DET

Which is the better motor? Which one is the easiest fit? Could I use it with my recently rebuilt transmission that came with my 240z?

Still dont quite understand the ECU issue. There is nothing to plug from my car in to the engines ecu. So do I need to get a stand alone system?

better motor = RB25DET
easier fit = SR20DET

the RB25DET and RB26DETT are front sump which i think the oil pan sits in front of the front cross member. this means that you would have to use a RB20DET oil pan to properly swap in the RB25DET into the 240Z. no you will probably not be able to use the L24 Transmission. it will probably not bolt up, let alone stand up to the power.

for Nissan ECU's...nothing from the car connects to the ECU. the ECU connects to a wiring harness that connects to the Engine's numerous sensors and such. so if i were to swap in an RB26DETT into my Z32....i would need the RB26DETT wiring harness, ECU, and motor. nothing from my car would hook into this sytem. So if you swapped in a ECu controlled motor, you would need the EFI harness from that car and the ECU. im not sure how the power source works but im sure it could be figured out.

You know...I was actually looking for something like this for the VG30E(T)...the bolt kit in particular. That'd be GREAT...

So is $2500 a good price for a
RB25DET with ecu, turbo, all accessories, uncut wire harness and 5 speed transmission?

Or would it be worth upgrading to the RB26DETT for $3500? Comes with all the same stuff except twin turbos instead of single.

yeah i think 2500 is a good price for the 25... as for the 26, that will require a bit more work.. as you'll have to use the rb25det transmission with it... bit more wiring and headaches... but if you're willing to mess with it, it'll pay out in the long run. btw you'll probably have to make all sorts of custom mounts and stuff like that to use the 25 or 26... as well as a custom driveshaft(1 piece is good if you don't mind the vibration)

either way you're looking at a pretty big project that requires a lot of planning

KEY TO ANY SWAP...

PLAN!!!

Then plan some more.


Then do a bit more planning.












Then, just when you think you're done, go over your plans and squeeze in a few last minute plans....






...then plan for changes in plans cuz "even the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry"...

^^^^ what he said