I am totally ignorant to the specifics of HID. What I wanted to know is which kits are out there for a 6gen. Civic, and which are the best quality. I notice on production cars equipped with HID, some seem to have more blue tint and others have less, does anyone know what determines this, and do the various kits have these differences as well?
Finally, is it possible to use OEM HID lighting from another car make, and convert it to my Civic?

Thanks to anyone with info.

the best thing to do is get a full HID conversion kit, these range from 500-900. they are the best and look the best. they use about half the watts but give off 3 times the light and it looks more crisp, blue and whiter. its the best lighting you can get for your car. you can transfer it from another car if its plug and play. plug and play will work on just about any car. the differences in color is due to the different kelvin temps such as 4000k, 6000k, or 8000k. there are blue and purple tints to each of them. the best Xenon HID conversion kit IMO is from germany, blue 8000k hella/phillips.

hope that helped...

www.hids4less.com


that should point you into the right direction.

Thanks you guys, Ill check out the link and look into your suggestions as well MidNiteMisT! Looks like my patience finally paid off :D

So the Phillips 8000k blue? What difference does the kelvin temps make, is it generally the higher the better? Is this just a matter of brightness?

Thanks again for the help you two.

The higher the brighter.....but i wouldn't go with something too high...i've heard of the wires melting.

well, my brother has the 8000k kit and it seems to be working fine for him and i absolutely LOVE it. its the sickest lighting you can get for a car. the higher the kelvin, usually the nicer the color. a better site for getting this kit with a much lower price is http://store.autotoys.com/cgi-bin/wfp53024.storefront my brother got it within around 3-4 days. look anywhere else and you should see that they charge like 700. thats the best i found so far. theres also http://www.groupbuycenter.com/ but i dont understand how that thing works so i recommend autotoys.com they also have a lifetime warranty so you dont have to worry. but it doesnt cover the bulbs or false installation. if your looking for the ultimate in lighting, XENON HID is the way to go. the pic of the xenon kit on autotoys.com is actually my brothers kit! they opened his kit and took a pic of it and put it on their site. we know for sure cuz they are exactly the same. isnt that messed up? anyway.... tell us how it works out and if you have more questions, just ask :)

p.s. if you get it, please post pics. ill try and post pics of my brothers tonight.

For the Civic since you don't have separate high beam and low beam. Most HID kit are only single filament that means they are either high or low.

However just recently Bellof made H4 HID for the Civic and they are dual filament HID. Its expensive though but they are from Japan so its quality parts.

I would stick with 4200 K HID since its is brighter then the 6000 and the 8000K. :cool:

Originally posted by EliteAccordPH
For the Civic since you don't have separate high beam and low beam. Most HID kit are only single filament that means they are either high or low.

However just recently Bellof made H4 HID for the Civic and they are dual filament HID. Its expensive though but they are from Japan so its quality parts.

I would stick with 4200 K HID since its is brighter then the 6000 and the 8000K. :cool:

nah, i dont agree, i think 8000k is much nicer then the others. its the latest and greatest style. much crisper nicer look to it. its true that u have to have seperate hid lights but u only need it for low beam cuz how often do you put on your high beams? just to flash someone.... you can just get a hyper white piaa bulb for the high beams because you will see the low beams most of the times. what you could also do it just get the xenon fog lights and only put that on at night. i think that looks pretty cool.

I got a 7000K kit for my Accord V6 at a really cheap low price from a local importer in my area. It's hecka nice and good quality too. I'll try to post some pics. :cool:

Originally posted by EliteAccordPH
I would stick with 4200 K HID since its is brighter then the 6000 and the 8000K. :cool:
EliteAccordPH is correct ...

hmmm, now we have conflicting suggestions. So does the higher number actually equal brighter lights?

Also, as far as the matter of low/high beams, does that mean the HID is the "low beam" and there is no brighter option? Is it necessary to have brighter with HID anyway?

Now Im really wondering, 8000k or 4200k, which is better? Im assuming the 4200k is cheaper?

well since they are saying that 4200k is brighter then i guess the higher number doesnt mean as bright but it should be...

IMO, i like 8000k the most cuz it actually looks the best.

you can get the kit for low beams but to have it for high beams also, you would have to buy another kit to have xenon high beams and xenon low beams.

4200k is cheaper. usually, the higher the kelvin, the more expensive the price because its newer.

if i bother my brother, maybe i can go take some pics of the lights.....

4200K is the brightness, but still yellow like halogen bulbs. The higher the kelvin rating, the bluer or purpler it gets, but not as bright as the 4200K. The higher kelvin is still 2-3 times brighter than stock halogen.

I haven't taken any pics of my HID yet, but here's a sample pic of the HID I have. I have the middle one, 7000K.

click here (http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jan/20021214155371015789443.jpg)

I think Im starting to understand.....uh, maybe...

Personally I like the blueish tint HID, but if thats the only difference the 8000k kit makes, Im not sure its worth the extra money. Is the color really the only difference, surely there is some other benefit or something here that makes the 8000k cost more?

i think its just the color change.i guess the 4200 only comes in yellow as a previous post mentioned. the reason 8000 is better then 7000 is because of the color. thats what makes the headlight

4300k is considered stage I and 6000k is considered stage II take a look at these photos and you will see that the 6000k IMO is much nicer even though the 4300k is brighter. the 8000k would look even nicer then the 6000k because of the higher kelvin and it looks much more crisp and clean and white then the 4300k. personally, i would definatly get the 8000k instead of 4300k. ill try again to take a pic of my brothers lights tonight if he lets me.

http://www.hids4less.com/images/300stageiporsche.gif http://www.hids4less.com/images/300stageiiporshe.gif

here is a quote directly from hids4less.com

"The major difference is in found in the bulbs. Stage 2 bulbs run at 6000k and are composed of a gas mixture that emits a very purplish hue, Versus a Stage 1 kit, which run at 4300k, and emit a very white light. The stage 2 system is the same exact system found on the European Le man Race cars. This system eclipses any other automotive lighting system on the market today. Nothing can even match the light output. Stage 2 is much more purplish hue than Any BMW, Mercedes, or popular luxury car on the market.. "

they dont have to come in purpleish tint, they come in either blue or purple, its up to you.

heres another pic comparing the two...
http://www.hids4less.com/images/stage1andstage2.jpg

Originally posted by EliteAccordPH
However just recently Bellof made H4 HID for the Civic and they are dual filament HID. Its expensive though but they are from Japan so its quality parts.
HID systems don't work that way; there's no filament(s) to burn in HID's. The Bellof kit employs the use of a "bulb cover" to simulate a halogen-like low beam and a high beam with the H4 bulb application.

you damn moderators are all so damn smart.... i didnt even notice he said that. keep up the good work xivera! :p

Heres a pic of my bros car lighting up the road.... it looks very very nice :) my brother kinda explianed more about xenon to me, he said that the 4300k may be a little brighter but it doesnt give off the right light. the 8000k gives off a beautiful super white bluish light that really lights up the road and reflects amazing off signs like a stop sign. i dont care what you other people say about the 4300k being bright cuz the 8000k is so much nicer and whiter and bluer. its the latest from japan so what would you expect? its even better then the xenon that comes with cars like lexus. he also said other stuff but i didnt understand it so i cant tell you but THIS SHIT IS SICK and if your getting a kit, you might as well spend a extra few bucks and get the 8000k. believe me, youll enjoy it :p

i went for a ride in my bros car for the first time with his xenon and all i have to say is.....

WOW

those lights are absolutely AMAZING, it lights up every sign i see and lights up all the reflectors on all the cars and all the reflectors on the road and lilghts up the white lines too. dont get the 4300k, im sure you will be MUCH more happy with the 8000k. it gives off such a nice output and light that a picture cant explian it, you have to see it to really appreciate it.

We here in Germany use the following conversion kits:

2 electronic Xenon ballast (made by Hella-Germany)
2 Xenon bulbs (made by Phillips)

for H1 and H7 sockets.

These are original parts which are used by BMW, Mercedes Benz etc. The ballasts carry the Hella and BMW stamp, nevertheless we use these kits for almost all car brands with H1 and H7 headlights. So far we did not find a car where it does not fit. You can also use it with H3 and H4 sockets but than some mill work is necessary, so that the new Xenon sockets fit in.

We tried around 10 different sets from China, Korea, Taiwan etc. but all were real crap. First of all you do not know which quality the parts have and in addition most kits are far to expensive.

Street price here in Germany for the original kit is around 500 Euros ~ 455 US$.

Carl
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