http://mantapower.viciousnest.net/vid/220mph.wmv

Looks real enough to me, but how can someone hang on at speeds like that? I mean, 220MPH winds (not including any gusts there could've been) hitting you head-first could easily knock you right off.

idk if that is mph but it was def. past 220...gotta love the hya

i have my doubts...i mean, i know that bikes can be insanely fast with crazy power to weight ratios...but that thing went from 60-220 like 11 or 12 seconds!

Damn. That was rediculous. It was really hard to tell if her was actually doing 220. He might've had a miscalibrated speedometer. Stuff was going by fast enough that it was believable, but sometimes it looked a little too slow. If he wasn't going 220, I think he was going damn close though. He was deffinately going at least 200 mph at the end.

I Had Post This Befor

I Had Post This Befor

and what are your thoughts on it?

It's One Hell Of A Video

Busas are notorious for their speedo inaccuracy. A friend of mine had tested its top speed several times using GPS and the best he could do (the bike simply couldn't go any faster) was 188 mph (with light tailwind) while speedo was buried past 220mph. This is stock bike. But even if moded, once you reach that speed, it takes a lot to gain 30+ mph, a lot! Assuming you can hold on of course which is entirely different topic.
Nevertheless, this is very impressive, this guy is doing wheelie past 130 mph!

All I know is that was damn fast and that guy was ready to meet his maker.

My vote is defenately not faster then 188MPH, but it sounds good.

Impressive, no matter how inaccurate the speedo was.

i've read on stock gearing and in totally stock form that can pass 200mph (performance bike magazine) but they lose in the handling stakes, beside these bikes often have over 1000bhp/ton in standard from an much of that power is totally accesible an little is lost through drivetrain like you get in cars. i doubt that a speed is so inaccurite to read 220+ an be doing a "real" 188, but thats just my opinion

No way is he doing 220mph. He's going quick but it ain't no 220. Watch the median access roads they go past way too slow for over 200 miles an hour. Also watch the cars on the other side, distance will appear to slow them down but they down right crawl by him. I figure 150+ range but not 220. Heck when the Busas first came out it took a pro-rider 3 passes down a specially prepared airplane runway to get his Busa above 200, no way this guy does it on an open road in less than 19 seconds. (He lays into the bike 14 seconds into the video and the speedo tops out at 33 or 34 seconds.) Plus holding a wheelie at 130 mph seems a bit far fetched to me, especially as high as that one was. In my never so humble opinion he has rigged the speedo to read faster than what he's actually doing.

NOT 220mph.... get in your car, get on any road, hit 100mph, watch the lines go by...
look at how slow the lines where going by in the vid when he was doing "100mph"
my geussing is he has a rear sprocket that the trick bikes use and never had the spedo recalibrated for the different gear ratio.
also, in the begining when he is creaaping over to the other bike at maybe 2-3mph the spedo looked like about 5mph.
also
yo ucan have the power to weight ratio but you have to have the traction to over come the friction caused by the wind...accelerating like he was at "180mph" + is not likely when you have the traction patch of a size 6 shoe....
there is a thing with high performance bikes called "tha hand of god" where you will reach a ver yfast speed, have the power and gearing to keep going but not the traction. hence the drag bikes that really do do 220mph have a rear tire the size of jr. Dragsters....

still a kool vid though

I just watched it again, and CBFryman is right. Watch the last 5 seconds of the video or so, when his speedo hits 100 look at the lines in the road. Now, I've never been 200mph, but I have been up to 100mph and those lines go by A LOT faster than that at 75 or 80 much less 100mph. This video is faked for sure.

I'm going to have to argue you all here. Owning a 600cc CBR I know how fast 100mph feels. Also, I know this history of that bike in that video. You can't see it (but you can hear it), its a completely worked (and on 17psi) motor putting close to 500hp down to the rear wheels. Theres a video floating around somewhere where they dyno queened the thing up to 701hp. I think the speedo could be off perhaps 10mph at worse, but anytime you're putting close to 1hp per 1lb, things get fast. (Imaging stuffing 2700hp into a honda civic)

that isnt the point, the point is he doesnt have the TRACTION to burry the needle, that quick at that.
when he does another video and holds a gps in his hand and the gps shows 220mph + or - 10mph i will beleive it...untill then i said the gearratio's where changed...

and you can stuff 2700 hp into a civic... and id put my truck on it it couldnt hit 220mph that quick, if at all. 220mph via wheel power (not rocket power) is no laughing matter. imagine the difference between 25 and 50mph on a bike, BIG difference... 100 to 200 mph would be even greater id imagine.

You must be confused with an other video, I just saw the gostrider bikes again and these are real 500bhp bikes. And you can easely tell the difference in sound and speed. The video on this toppic never showed a bike anywhere near 220MPH. I guess 180MPH if not less. The guy must have changed gear ratios and you can tell this bike didn't had any where near 500 bhp, the speedo and the rev indictors showed no wheelspin at all. Very unlikely for a 500+bhp bike if you consider the wheely at the start. (he defenately opend the throttle) And a bike with a 1000bhp/ton ratio sounds impressive but including the driver it's going to be a bit less :icon16:

that isnt the point, the point is he doesnt have the TRACTION to burry the needle, that quick at that.
when he does another video and holds a gps in his hand and the gps shows 220mph + or - 10mph i will beleive it...untill then i said the gearratio's where changed...

Then please explain to me how top fuel dragsters can do 330mph+ in 1400 feet? He can get the traction, its possible. When you weigh that little, you don't need the same traction area as a car, especially since the bike is RWD. Again, reffering to experience, bikes can accelerate that fast.


and you can stuff 2700 hp into a civic... and id put my truck on it it couldnt hit 220mph that quick, if at all. 220mph via wheel power (not rocket power) is no laughing matter. imagine the difference between 25 and 50mph on a bike, BIG difference... 100 to 200 mph would be even greater id imagine.


Again, I don't have to imagine, I know, I have the experience. What about the Mclaren F1? It has 627 HP and weighs in at 2840lbs. It has a top speed of 231 MPH. Thats 4 lbs per hp. If it were to put down 1hp to lb, it would a sub 6 second quarter mile car.

I have a busa, that is not 220, what he did was an aftermarket face gauge, Max in 6th gear.. about 190 is 10,500 rpm's. Also by his shift points it looks like he has a larger rear sporcket, which also would account for speed being off. That is about 160mph... 200 look ALOT faster than that, beleave me its not real. Also, a McLaren take a long time to reach 231. Ill post the video later, and you need alot of room. Even with a stock busa you need a mile or so to really reach top end.

Here is a photo of my gauges
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5103/792b6yu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1760/811b7fi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


on the right you can see the speedo, indication the SAME position as the one on the left, The one on the right reads 180 mph and the one on the left reads 220



Oh btw, where the rider shifts from 5-6th is the same point you would shift from 160

Here is a stock hayabusa sprocket, works with a stock hayabusa. Why? becasue the speedo is calibrated to the output shaft of the transmission.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1218/851b25gq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The actual speed sensor is located on the cluch/sprocket cover housing located on the right
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9859/b41b24qi.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


here is your aftermarket sprocket. causing a huge difference in rear wheel speed. the speed sensor would not pick up on that change becasue the chain and the output shaft are still moving at the same speed as before.. Its like changing the rear end in your car, or the tire size and expecting the same speed reading

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6154/6513sy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

people that think he is doing 220+ are the same people you see looking in car windows to see how fast the car can go by the speedo.

BTW where he shifts from 5th to 6th at "210" is the same point you would shift at. at 170, also his rpm gauge is wrong too, where it reads 11,200 rpm's is where 10,200 rpms are at. 10.2 is where your gov is limited to in 6th gear. :)

http://curl.planetmirror.com/pub/misc_trailers/motorcycle/Hayabusa-Aarhus.mpg


there is what 187 really looks like... (300 kph)

cant beleive he was doing a wheely at that speed

I just watched it again, and CBFryman is right. Watch the last 5 seconds of the video or so, when his speedo hits 100 look at the lines in the road. Now, I've never been 200mph, but I have been up to 100mph and those lines go by A LOT faster than that at 75 or 80 much less 100mph. This video is faked for sure.

ive always thought this was fake, at the start of the vid the manouvering of the bike looks very awkward, the rider in the reflection in the clocks nods his head twice, you dont actually make out his hands lettin off the throttle between changes (i know full throttle and clutchless changes are possible but you gonna try it on a busa with the frotn wheel in the air?

probably stemmed from some guy in a fast car goading a biker on a forum and he came up with the vid.

the speed it is travelling at is wrong compared to the speedo yeah, it doesnt look as if it gets more than 150, the speed it accelerates from 50-100, 100-150 and 150-200 is the same on the speedo, even i know that aint possible! ive driven at 190mph and scenery goes past you a hell of a lot quicker than that!! when you aint glued to the road not blinking :)

Theres a big difference between a car with slick aerodynamics and a bike...

Theres a big difference between a car with slick aerodynamics and a bike...

meaning?, i would say a bike is more aerodynamic than a car by a big margin, fairing pushing air upwards to try and clear riders head, side fairing has indents for legs to be pressed into and the low down position is a lot more slippery than a car?

what did you mean by it?

well i may as well defend my view point even if its adead thread...

Then please explain to me how top fuel dragsters can do 330mph+ in 1400 feet? He can get the traction, its possible. When you weigh that little, you don't need the same traction area as a car, especially since the bike is RWD. Again, reffering to experience, bikes can accelerate that fast.



Again, I don't have to imagine, I know, I have the experience. What about the Mclaren F1? It has 627 HP and weighs in at 2840lbs. It has a top speed of 231 MPH. Thats 4 lbs per hp. If it were to put down 1hp to lb, it would a sub 6 second quarter mile car.


Traction patch of a McClarin F1 is far greater than the bikes AND had more weight over the traction patch resulting in even greater traction.

look at a dragsters tires and look at a motor cycles tires. the traction patch is at least 5 times greater from one wheel and is probably made from a much stickier compound and on a much stickeier road with more weight over its traction area.

once agian i will say that there is a thing called the "hand of god" where you can have the power to weight ratio but you just start getting wheel spin at high speed which had resulted in death in some casses due to lack of controll.

I recall reading somewhere that motorcycle manufactuers tweak the speedometer to say its going faster then it truely is. I believe it was around %10 - %15. That could account for some of the speed.

thats 220 km...look at the gauge and mph is right inside there.

meaning?, i would say a bike is more aerodynamic than a car by a big margin, fairing pushing air upwards to try and clear riders head, side fairing has indents for legs to be pressed into and the low down position is a lot more slippery than a car?

what did you mean by it?
You couldn't be more wrong.
If bikes were more aerodynamic an 11 second bike would have a huge top speed...

http://sportrider.com/tech/146_0106_aero/ The ZX-12R has a frontal area of 6.09 ft2 (0.566 m2), physically larger than the Hayabusa, which is 6.01 ft2 (0.558 m2 ). But the advantage for the Suzuki is not just in frontal area. With figures for both drag and frontal area, it's possible to calculate the coefficient of drag, which is 0.603 for the 12R and 0.561 for the Hayabusa. The winner of this wind tunnel shootout is the Suzuki. It's worth remembering, however, that neither of these CD figures indicate a particularly impressive degree of streamlining, since even a typical passenger car has a CD of less than 0.60 and some models are lower than 0.30. A fully streamlined Bonneville speed-record bike might have a CD of 0.10. Such is the nature of streetbikes, where performance derives mostly from extreme power-to-weight ratios.

You couldn't be more wrong.
If bikes were more aerodynamic an 11 second bike would have a huge top speed...

http://sportrider.com/tech/146_0106_aero/


bored now, if you notice, i put 'i would say', that means i thought it would be like that? i would never be so up myself to actually search the net or stats to find out the frontal area of a bike :) thats so, er, geeky, unlike most people on the net i have a life outside my pc :) a land of crap vtecs, subaru's with drain pipe exhausts, v8's which has been proven that the bigger the cubic inch the bigger the cock in your pants and the ability to say rice without being derogatory to the supreme jap technology that is about these days. i love it, so many people to take the piss out of :)

Thats like 140-160 tops. If that. He just has those fake gauges. IF you look at, for example, some 2ng gen Eclipse speedos, they go to like 170mph.

very true that everything looks too slow on the road around him.... ive raced a gsxr1000 on the highway in my 02 civic going 140mph so i know what high speed looks like..... but i also remember the bike pulling up a wheelie at 120mph so..... there was a vid posted here a while back of a turbo busa and that did hit 200+, however it took even longer than that stock busa. my vote is along with yours, the vid is impressive even tho the speedo is inaccurate

bored now, if you notice, i put 'i would say', that means i thought it would be like that? i would never be so up myself to actually search the net or stats to find out the frontal area of a bike :) thats so, er, geeky, unlike most people on the net i have a life outside my pc :) a land of crap vtecs, subaru's with drain pipe exhausts, v8's which has been proven that the bigger the cubic inch the bigger the cock in your pants and the ability to say rice without being derogatory to the supreme jap technology that is about these days. i love it, so many people to take the piss out of :)
Well if basic understanding of aerodynamics is geeky than I would rather be a geek :iceslolan
It took me less than a minute to find that link, and since I'm actually interested in cars and bikes beyond simple "duh how will it go duhhh" I found the read rather interesting.
I've known forever that bikes have horrible aerodynamics compared to a car but never actually need a good read like that wth stats.