2003 Nissan Z Car ( 350Z )

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03-05-2002, 06:02 PM
is there still a screen in the 350z, even if u dont get navi..or is it only with navi??

03-05-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by DMC12

I was not dissing the car. It is honestly ugly, people! I just can't understand why anyone wants to plunk down $37K for it.

I do like the newer photos of the interior. However, its not the interior that needed changing. The front intake is my biggest beef. It is a square, while the rest of the car is flowing. I love the tail lights... so where did the designers get a square intake from???? It just look thrown together.

You're like about .1% of us who think it's ugly. The other 99.9% think it's from beautiful to gorgeous. Anyway, who cares! As long as I'm happy driving it. That's all it's about--satisfying the driver.
The square front intake is taken from the Skyline GTR, I think. Well, GTR's have square front intake opening. I'm not too thrill about that intake either, but it definitely doesn't make the whole car ugly. It's still gorgeous to ME.:smoker2:

03-05-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by arpiburpi
is there still a screen in the 350z, even if u dont get navi..or is it only with navi??

Nah! I think it's left with an opening without a Nav. BUT, you could always close the lid (like the S2000). Unless you decide to get it later, or an aftermarket one.

03-05-2002, 07:15 PM
hey....just a quick thought.....why do you like your delorean....i am sure its a cool Car in LBC

Is that Long Beach College or what is that?

03-05-2002, 08:12 PM
Is that Long Beach College or what is that?

LBC = Long Beach City. Listen to Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre, Sublime (all from here) and they will mention "LBC". This is what it means. The city that's low, urban life by the beach.

I thought florescent green went out in the early 80s, it is 2002 now-WAKE UP!!!

This thread is featured on the AF home page. I was not aware when I first posted that it was in the Nissan fan's portion of the site. Obviously a user with the handle "ZCARFAN" is biased to anything Z, so I will stop posting to this thread.

I did NOT intentionally click on over to "Nissan Z cars" forum to start sh*t. I don't like it when people do this to forums I am in, so I will stop. I have taken my campaign to the "cars I dislike" forum.

03-05-2002, 11:33 PM
DMC, thats cool, I really didn't know why you were doing it either, I don't like when people do that, It runs wild on clubsi, but VWvortex is much more mild.

03-08-2002, 10:51 PM
First post here...suppose ,I just search some information about my 350Z and 240Z body painting..finally find this website...
here is my Z bodies.....BTW, the 350Z really nice.(I mean the real car)



03-09-2002, 03:31 AM
those are some sic looking RC cars.....wish I had some that good looking

03-09-2002, 04:45 AM
Hey Wing, are those RC bodies for the HPI RS4-2 model? Damn, I got an RS4, I gotta get one of those 350Z bodies. They came out already? Kool!!!

03-11-2002, 11:03 PM
Make no mistake, anyone reading MCERVANTES brief profile of Nissan's new entry into the Z realm. THIS CAR WILL CHANGE THE FACE OF SPORTS CARS UNDER $50K AS WE KNOW IT. Nissan has raised the bar so high by offering a brilliant marriage of performance, styling and affordability, it will leave other Japanese car manufacturers racing around to try and compete. Germany, England and Italy will no longer hold the monopoly on high-style performance machines once this car hits the streets. Mark my words. I have seen this in tests at the So Cal facility and even the sound of this scaled up prototype illicits the kind of childish giggle once only reserved for Ferrari's screaming V12.

I drive a Vantage and am considering trading down to the new Z when it comes out... or, would it be, trading up?

Happy hunting enthusiasts.

The Villain

03-11-2002, 11:30 PM
thats strange.. i read an article somewhere .. anyway they tested the prototype 350z .. it wasnt final prodution model and the magazine didnt see it to being anything tht special.. sure good but nuttin drastic.. but i dont remember where i saw it.. :confused: :confused:

03-11-2002, 11:31 PM
I hope you are right about the sound, one of the magazines calls the sound of the S2000-having a similar sound as a ferarri when it is wound up, with 1/3 the cylinders, after driving and S2000, I must agree, lets hope that the Z sounds like 1/2 of a ferarri and at lower RPMs, while love the S2000, I haev a feeling that it will be replaced as my favorite "reasonably priced sports car", and will soon be 2nd in that catagory.

03-12-2002, 10:47 AM
I think it is great that everyone loves the new Z, and it is a beautiful car. However, I think the way people are talking up it's performance is unrealistic. I haven't seen any definites on pricing, but assuming it will be available around $30k with 280hp it is not mana from heaven.

In the stop-light nationals, on the mean streets of the USA, it will not be a heavy contender. As long as it is trying to stack up against V-8 powered, live rear axeled, pony cars it will loose. It is very difficult for small displacement V-6s to rival the power of a V-8. I am not merely speaking of power in the figurative sense, but in the total energy under the curve vocabulary.

When it comes to winning street races, straight line performance is all that really counts. I am an avid auto-crosser so there is no need to convince me that the 350Z will kick butt in that arena. However, a V-6 and an indipendent rear suspension just don't make for straight line performance. The Z will also be left wanting in the HP and TQ departments. (Please no discussions of mods, thats a whole different conversation).

I guess all I am trying to say is that the 350Z is a great car, but claims that it will be the end all, be all for around $30k is unrealistic. I think there is sufficient iron in the market now that will best it in many of the motorsports arenas. I believe the Z will be an awsome car, but not neccessarily the standard by which other sub $30k sportscars are judged.



03-12-2002, 01:23 PM

you are talking to a crowd that probably couldn't care less about those push rod V-8s that only seem to perform well in a straight line (except for the vette) and use very crude suspension and other such parts. btw, the z28 is gone after this year b/c of lack of sales, that should tell you something about what the public in general feels about ONLY straight speed.

the fact that so many people here are using 0-60 figures is b/c that is what most mags judge teh quickness by, and a figure that we are all familiar with. there is NO dopubt that I would rather have a 4.9 VS a 5.3 0-60 time, BUT if that means owning a chevy SS vs a Z car or even a Porsche boxster S, forget it, give me the slower time. (btw, I have nevere seen an SS do a 4.9, it was just brought up as an example). if I can have a beautiful, relaible car that does low 5s and handles well and id REFINED!!! that is much more important to me. btw, the stock Mustang GTs aren't overly quick, so to say that the v-6 can't compete is a little bit narrow minded.

03-12-2002, 01:25 PM
btw, a 3.5 L v-6 in NOT a "small displacement V-6"

03-13-2002, 12:02 AM
compared to Domestic motors it is.

03-13-2002, 10:12 AM
the actual size of the piston would equat to a 5.25L V-8, that is NOT a small displacemant, unless you are comparing it to a 4.1 L 6 that jeep uses which is HARDLY a high performance engine

03-13-2002, 10:50 PM

You are correct. The Z motor is not small displacement. I mis-spoke. I was merely trying to illustrate a point that the Z motor does not have comparable cubic inches to small block V-8s. Therefore torque will always be lower, and inevitablly HP as well.

I would also agree that both the Mustang and Camaro are aging platforms, that use antiquated suspension technology. However, these are the cars that you will meet at the stop lights, and they are the top dogs as we speak.

If the Z comes in at close to $30k it is going for market share in Cobra and SS teritory. It is my opinion that the Z will not be able to out muscle the Cobra and the SS, on the street. The Z will surely sell out and be hugely popular, as it is a very cool looking car. However, bragging rights will remain in the hands of the ponys. Autocrossing, hmmmm... I guess that depends on the course.

Finally I will agree with you again, on the point of which would I rather own. Certainly it would be the Z car. (I can tell you from painful experience, the delights of being serviced by Chevrolet.) Although, the Z would be more attractive with say 320-330 hp. I just think that entering into this forray with 280hp is an odd bet that sets a beautiful car at a disadvantage. I am sure that Nissan will up it's HP numbers each year for marketing purposes, alla the "pony car wars". Keep in mind that GM will only retire the Camaro for 2 years, then introduce the Australlian sourced platform that has all the bells and whistles.

As a side note: The reason I am posting on this sight is my intrest in the Skyline GT-R, and other cool Nissans. If a Skyline GT-R was for sale through Nissan in the USA I would most likely be driving it instead of the Vette. I would also have probablly jumped at the Z if it had a bit more power. Still... the future is full of wonderfull posibilities!



03-13-2002, 11:24 PM
I dont know if you know, but the Z will start at under $27 (that is will the same 280+ engine), so indead it is a great deal

btw, look for a G35 infiniti coupe in the fall and a possible M35 coupe a year later (said to use a high output V-8), this info is what I have gotten directly from an infiniti rep, as for the Skyline, it should be interesting to see if the skyline will be called the "M35" or if that is a completely different car?

03-16-2002, 12:47 AM

I guess we will have to see what is standard on the Z, and how much the goodies cost. I think the stock Camaro SS and Cobra are $27k and $28k respectively, which puts them all in the same price range.

This means the stock SS and Cobra, will have around a 40-45hp advantage. This is pretty sizeable advantage. I am interested in seeing how much the Z will weigh. I believe the SS and Cobra are around 3600lbs.

If you go by the quick rule of "for every 100lbs lost, you gain 1/10th of a second in the quarter mile", the Z might have a chance. My estimate would be that it would have to be around 3200lbs and have a 3:42 - 3:55 rear axle ratio to be competitive.

It will be interesting to see what the final product weighs, and how it performs. I am also curios what the top of the line will cost. I thought someone posted a figure of around $37k.

Anyway, time will tell all.



03-16-2002, 10:33 AM
Z is supposed to be between 3150-3200 lbs, but I still don't really expect it to beat an SS, but maybe hang with it?, sure.

03-17-2002, 04:01 AM
The strength of the Z is not its stock hp, trust me. I need not remind anyone of how easy it was to pull a couple hundred extra horses out of the last Z. The VG35 is a powerful motor. Power can be easily remedied; the Z already has a leg up in handling (I think). We'll see if these weight balance issues pan out by August. I'll bet that within 3 months of the Zs arrival, you'll be able to hit 350 hp with aftermarket parts.

BTW, torque and horsepower are not so dependent on displacement, not in this context. Granted, if you had two nearly identical engines of modular design, one a 3.5l V6, one a 4l V8, the V8 would produce more power and torque. But it's more of an apples and oranges scenario with the Z and the Camaro. Unless Chevy breaks with tradition and goes all-out high tech on the next Camaro, it will be the same old technology that's been propelling American cars for a long time. We're starting to get into overhead cams, thankfully. The Z's engine is pretty much on the cutting edge. It has everything short of Neo-VVL (which it wouldn't hurt Nissan to implement in America over the next few years). It's simply more dynamic and thus more efficient. I know I'm asking for it by preaching this doctrine, but facts are facts. I'm not saying the next Camaro will be a big, slow dinosaur. I am saying that relying on ancient pushrod technology and huge displacement will not be enough, not in this millenium (there, I finally made one of those "new millenium" statements).

And you know, I could build a motor with a tiny bore and a really long stroke and out-torque a V8 with an I4. If I wanted to. I guess. Well, just trying to prove a point.

03-17-2002, 04:42 AM
Lets see a 9.6 litre in-line 4? mmmmmmm 1912 here we come.

Point taken, and remember the Z wasn't ment to be a turbo car to start with, it only got the turbo to compete in the American GT series, and it when on from there, I think the VQ35DE will have aftermarket Turbo kits for it , hey there is already one being moulded off the Z32 VG30DETT, they are waiting on the placement of the turbos, or it could even be a single turbo layout who knows..

I wonder if the new Z will beat the R35? It did in the past!

03-17-2002, 04:47 AM
ok wrong idea, how would you do it I mean the small bore, long stroke?

you not talking of masterbating are you. Hee Hee.

03-17-2002, 04:33 PM
The 350Z versus the R35 GT-R? Well, if the GT-R gets the VQ30DET, then the Z will have a .5 liter displacement advantage. With an equal turbo setup, the Z will generate more power. And without the added weight of AWD, the Z could be faster. However, we really don't know much about the GT-R yet (I say we, but maybe it's just me).

No, I wasn't talking about masturbation, although that's about what it would be like trying to run anything on that hypothetical 4-cylinder. Taking a tiny motor and stroking it to death with the longest rods possible will make a bunch of torque because it's the product of force and distance. Think leverage. But even with a large capacity for torque, the motor wouldn't rev very high with the miniscule bore, so peak power will be low. Plus, that torque isn't going to be available at low rpm because the super-long rod screws any chance for exhaust gas scavenging.

As you can see, I will make up all kinds of stupid analogies to make a point. Don't assume that they make sense.:smoker2:

03-17-2002, 10:49 PM

I think modifying stock cars is great. It is the bond that unites most enthusiasts no matter what brand they support. It promotes continued competition and developement. It makes our sport what it is today.

However, I think that saying any car is better modified than another is merely an argument like "religion" or "politics". There is no final answer, and you will never convince anyone they are wrong. Case in point: Mustangs and vettes have twin turbo kits on the market as well. The type of power they produce is dizzying. To keep things simple it is best to talk stock. Everyting else is armchair quarterbacking, on the senate floor, wearing holy robes.

The next Camaro should be interesting. I saw an article a while back, that it will be an Australian platform, with 4 wheel independent suspension, and rear wheel drive. (Anyone please provide facts, I haven't had time to research this car.) Also I believe Chevy said there would be a two year hiatus. It will be intersting to see if the price stays low. As we already know, Chevy isn't shy about horsepower either. Could be interesting! Then again maybe we will get a skyline stateside too! Man, we live in amazing times. Forget the sixties, today is the best muscle car era ever!!!

Peace on earth, and let horsepower reign supreem!


03-18-2002, 12:00 AM
HB, your right, this HP race is great and the people who benefit the most is the consumer!! it is awesome, who thought that they would ever see stock cars from Honda, subaru, nissan, mazda, etc,etc... doing under 6 seconds 0-60 and UNDER 40K!!!! these are great times! glad that all the "conservative" companies have caught on (actually theu always had these cars, they just kept them in Japan)

03-18-2002, 06:31 AM
Holyterror, damn it it's good to have someone with a sense of humour, cheers dude.....:sun:

Anyway, back to the Horse power thing, Man I live nissans, but a stock car in standard trim, if I had to go for a non-nissan, will always be and I mean always the Corvette, I would have brought one by now, but I do love the Z 06, thats cool, ZR-1 is the god of the new age muscle cars, to me it has no rival, I hate the Viper but the guy who lives down the road from me own a RT/10, we race each other when we get the chance, they are fun to drive but compare it to the Vette or 300ZX, nah it's not the same, both the Vette and 300 don't have the horsepower but they rock, it's all about what you like, I like Nissan's, but If I had money left over ZR 1 would be welcome in my garage, well if I got a Callaway Corvette then the table would turn....

Callaway Corvette Vs Viper GTS-R Vs Superbeast 300ZX GTS

Callaway Corvette 560KW rear wheel horse power 22" wide rims, oh yeah, just wait until I finsh the 300ZX(WELL actually get started on it)

Keep it evil.......

03-19-2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Holyterror
The strength of the Z is not its stock hp, trust me. I need not remind anyone of how easy it was to pull a couple hundred extra horses out of the last Z

The big reason for that was the turbos. Easy to do with a turbo car
(look at the TT Supra). But you're not going to magically pull
a couple hundred extra horses out of a NA engine. Not flaming you,
but this thing needs a turbo or 2.

05-28-2002, 05:48 AM
Nice car!!!:D

06-03-2002, 02:06 AM
:bandit: Well , this car is juz bad. It looks like it has everything..I wonder if it ties your shoes too ?! :bloated:

06-03-2002, 02:52 PM
To 4dr_civic91: No. just everything else.

Everyone else: I think Nissan might want to keep with its tradition of keeping lower HP, for Insurance reasons. Also, since NISMO is coming to the US, chances are, there will be a ton of extras for the Z. It's probably wiser for Nissan to do it this way, otherwise non of us will be able to insure the car, if it was tweeked to 350 or higher bhp. I know for my G20, I'm paying closed to $4k, and I'm above the age of 25.

06-05-2002, 04:52 PM
Look Nissan-put a V8 in it and a 6speed at300 hp or more and keep the price from $25-35K US Dollars and I will get one right now:sun:

06-06-2002, 01:23 PM
RTurpin; Why would you need a V8. The six is sufficient enough to do what you want it to do. Look at Porsche. they're using 6s in most of they're cars.

06-15-2002, 06:29 PM

08-09-2002, 06:51 PM
anyone noe where i can get wall papers of da 350Z..or any other nissans
or wall papers of da cartoony car pictures..similar to da ad of da car on the top left corner of this page?...dankz alot

08-10-2002, 01:21 PM

It's not the HP alone that determines a car's insurance cost, it falls heavily on the cars past record of insurance claims. I have owned several different Mustangs and now a 2001 C5 Corvette. I pay only about $1200 a year for full coverage on my vette ($300,000/$100,000). I used to pay almost double that on a stang, and I was 29 when I got the vette.

I asked the cost if I owned a new Mustang GT, the answer was almost double the vette. The Vette has 350 HP and the Mustang ony 260 HP. The insurance company said it is all based on how many accidents and claims per model each car racks up proportionately. Unfortunately, Mustang GTs are disproportionately owned by young male drivers, who have disproportionately high numbers of claims. This is not to say that all Mustang owners are bad drivers, but enough ruin it for the majority. Therefore if the irresponsible among the fast and the furios crowd buy the 350Z and seek to drive irresponsibly, you will be gauranteed a high insurance rate no matter what the HP rating.

It's sad that what makes sports cars and racing great is also the same ingredient that attracts those who are irresponsible.


08-12-2002, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by HellBent
It's sad that what makes sports cars and racing great is also the same ingredient that attracts those who are irresponsible.
Too true. There is definitely an advantage to sleepers: they come in under the radar to the people who would abuse them.

As for how much horsepower can be extracted from the VQ35DE... it looks like the argument is that you can't get an extra 200 horsepower without turbocharging. That's actually what I was proposing. The turbo could conceivably double horsepower (look at the KA24), and any subsequent modifications would produce much larger gains.

But if you want all that power from a stock, N/A engine, look elsewhere.

08-13-2002, 08:37 AM
In due time, that might be possible, but I think you'd be more scared of the car with it's tenticles coming towards you.

08-20-2002, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Raddog
I see it's an automatic. Will this car be available in a 6-speed manual?

yes, Hell yes

08-20-2002, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by RTurpin
Look Nissan-put a V8 in it and a 6speed at300 hp or more and keep the price from $25-35K US Dollars and I will get one right now:sun:

Why a V8???:bloated: V6 is much better for a sports car that is going to cost less then 30K Handle like a champ and keep the weight down. Slap a turbo on there and f--k 300 now your looking at 340hp I'm sure that will come in time...
V8's suck I just wish everyone in the industry would get as much power out of there cars as porche.

08-21-2002, 08:43 AM
I don't agree with your assesment, since most insurance companies look at statistics for horsepower/torque ratio, prior accidents ratios, cost of maintenance/repair/parts, and price to determine what kind of an insurance rate to put out on a car, according to Geico and Progressive. Now it could be these two companies that are basing their insurance starters on these issues, i don't know, but since they have hp/torque on their list of remarks, that's why I said what I said. Unfortunately, the Z car might be targeted for high insurance, since parts for the car isn't readily available in the US, in mass quantities. Also i believe since the car is coming back after more than 5year the last Z car, it may get a new rap with the insurance industry which would be kind of nice.

On one of the notes you mentioned about bad driver, I agree. Unfortunately, since the price of the car is set around 25-35k, a lot of people want the car, which will include sucky drivers too.

By the way, you're lived in Kyosho, Jpn; how come you didn't import a car like the skyline, or some other exotic Japanese car here?

10-31-2002, 03:45 AM
The Z has already been released in Japan, specs look good am thinking of buying one next year.


10-31-2002, 11:06 AM

Well we can agree to disagree, I enjoy the different opinions though.;)

The reason I didn't try to import a car like the Skyline was the cost and the headache. I really enjoyed the 2001 Vette and I got agreat price. I couldn't bear the thought of shippiing the Skyline and having it damaged in shippment, plus all the waiting and hassles.

The biggest heartache I would have is owning and driving it in Japan for $40k-$50k then having to pay another $25k just for the priviledge of driving it in the USA. No thanks.

The C5 turned out to be an awsome car, and I really enjoyed the experience of being part of a National Champion Corvette Club.

Well, I am headed back to Japan in December for another two year tour. Now I can have my Skyline for a reasonable price!


11-05-2002, 08:51 AM
You do realize you can insure it during shipping. In fact Motorex will insure it if you use them working on the shipping. If it's damaged, get another one for equal or greater value. The only headache you should have is waiting for the car to get to the US and finding similar parts. Let me know when you're heading back to Japan. If you're interested, you could be a parts finder and shipper for my Lex. I'm finding it difficult to find parts for my 94 and am looking for someone to send me parts from Japan.

11-05-2002, 10:50 AM

I am not sure of the duties and legalities with shipping auto parts from Japan to the US. That is something you would have to do the research on. I believe there are restrictions and duties to be paid, otherwise the parts get confiscated.

As for the insurance; I know it is possible, I would just hate to have any damage on a $60k - $80k car. It is just an altogether different experience. I wouldn't want the aggervation of having to repair or eventually resell an expensive car with body damage or paint mismatches. People are real picky when it comes to buying high priced cars, and rightly so!


11-06-2002, 08:49 AM
No, not these particular car. The technology for matching paint has improved. Reselling a GTR 32-34 or 35 in this country is not going to be an issue. First the ones interested in this car are Nissan fans and who love the Skyline. The average joe won't even know what it is, and when they see a right-hand drive car will shrug away. Besides if no one buys your car, I'll buy your car, as long as you don't ram it into anything. Insurance is going to be kind of expensive, but since you can afford to buy a C5, i'm guessing you can afford to pay to have a rear car.

As for the shipping of parts, all that you're going to do is pack it up, call FedEx and ship it to the US. Government won't know anything about it because FedEx isn't a government entity. Also, induvidual parts can be shipped to the US without govenrment intervention since they are just parts. Do you think Lexus, BMW and the other foreign manufacturers pay duty on thier parts from Japan and Germany. Hell no. I know this because a couple of my friends have sent me parts from Germany and England. There are others in this country that do the same all the time. if you still don't want to do it, it's ok; it was just a thought.

11-06-2002, 03:27 PM

In regards to the paint question, it is still difficult to match paint for many reasons. Just look on the Corvette forum of how many people have had nightmares matching paint. When you are talking about enthusiasts buying a $50k - $80k car, they tend to be a bit more picky! Trust me, I just sold my 2001 C5 and it is just a different kind of buyer. Heck, you should have seen me when I picked it up. The dealer did a horrible job prepping the car, and I ended up filing a BBB complaint against them for their abyssmal service, but that is another story...

As for auto parts, anything mailed back from Japan to the USA or even into Japan from the USA must have a customs lable attached. They routinely search packages and if the contents don't match the lable, the shipper is in hot water. The government always makes life more complicated than it needs to be.:(


11-06-2002, 04:03 PM
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11-07-2002, 08:54 AM
never mind

05-02-2003, 04:24 AM
its a nice car....shit if i had 30,000 i would get rid of my accord and buy one for shure....my bro currently just bought a 91 300zx TT, and it is hella nice so i am expecting big things from this car in the future

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