Recap of Japanese F1 fleet

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bucciali

07-29-2005, 06:52 PM

Peloton25

07-29-2005, 07:34 PM

Great work - I am VERY impressed with the effort here. Thanks!!

I have one photo in my collection of the Blue F1 - #018 - in Japan. I will put it up here when I get home.

The one correction to make on the list, and it's a very recent development, is that the short tail LARK GTR #13R is no longer in Japan.

There was another post recently from coffey that showed photos of it on the MaranelloMotorsort website, so I will allow you to draw your own concluson from that. ;)

>8^)
ER

F1 monster

07-29-2005, 08:31 PM

Superb collection of info!

SD F1

07-29-2005, 08:34 PM

Great work on putting that together! The red car isn't #028 is it?

WG

F1 monster

07-29-2005, 09:11 PM

Yes it's 028, another car that's no longer in Japan.

McLaren F1 Guy

07-29-2005, 09:52 PM

Awesome list. Nice work!

peter i

07-30-2005, 12:15 AM

cool info with super detail,Soon all the number will collected! :D

MikeGTR

07-30-2005, 02:36 AM

Peloton25,

Do you know where the Lark chassis #13R now is ?

MikeGTR

jkbon

07-30-2005, 02:40 AM

Peloton25,

Do you know where the Lark chassis #13R now is ?

MikeGTR

It is for sale in Australia :

http://www.maranellomotorsport.com.au/sales.asp

coffeym

07-30-2005, 03:51 AM

Guys
The Lark 13R is in transit to Australia.
The White F1 is 053
The Lm is 002.

MikeGTR

07-30-2005, 04:02 AM

Thanks for the info on the Lark #13R. Gret to see #16R painted in Papaya Orange

bucciali

07-30-2005, 08:20 AM

Guys,

Added some changes. I thought about having all pics of these cars available, since I always try to get my hands on anything I don't have yet, just to be complete. Will start doing that this week. Anything you've got that's not in this thread yet, please send it to me.

Coffeym, thanks for the chassis # on the Lark, LM and white F1. :thumsup:
How sure are you about those? And could you also confirm the # of the burgundy GT? Is it #058F1GT?

About no. 7 in the list: the yellow F1. The chassis list mentions #014 Titanium Yellow and #060 yellow. Which one would it be? And the pictures of the yellow one, that's clearly in the states, and shown in picture below, is that the same car, or a repaint? It doesn't have the signature, shown in the ELG Engineering video.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5921/mclarenf1yellow086ta.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mclarenf1yellow086ta.jpg)

Maybe it's a repaint?

No. 08 in the list, presumably #018. Waiting for pic from Peloton.

No. 09 in the list, #003. Do you guys agree that this is the carbon one? And wasn't it just there for promotional reasons? And now probably somewhere else (where?)?

Thanks for the discussion.

/Bucciali

jkbon

07-30-2005, 09:17 AM

Did you make an actual list of Mac in Japan ? or a list of cars that have been in Japan ?

Because of this one :

8. F1 - darkblue - ELG engineering video
Presumably #018. Screendumps from video needed.

Styledoesnotscream has taken some pictures of #018 when it was for sale in Germany some weeks ago. It is grey with HDF kit, and is like this for years.
So, the number you presume is wrong, or this car was in Japan in the past. When the video has been made ?

peter i

07-30-2005, 09:39 AM

including all the race model ,total 72 cars ...ok got news that 2 crashing then 70 car still on the road,i doubt that japan have large number of F1 . About the ELG engineering do service for "international" Mclaren owner ,so some car do sent to japan for servicing. (correct me if i wrong)

bucciali

07-30-2005, 10:03 AM

Did you make an actual list of Mac in Japan ? or a list of cars that have been in Japan ?

Both I guess. There's already a split in the list, where the last ones are known to have moved. #018 probably has moved since the ELG video. I guess we can put the 018 on the bottom of the list too then.

I just searched for the thread where SDC apparently posted pix of it in Germany at a dealer. Those were hosted at the Flinger site, which is now offline. SDC, or anyone, could you post them again?

About the ELG engineering do service for "international" Mclaren owner ,so some car do sent to japan for servicing. (correct me if i wrong)

Interesting fact. Who would have done that? Asian & Australian owners? All other places in the world I would definately ship it to England for best service.

McLaren F1 Guy

07-30-2005, 10:52 AM

sweet, another LM down. I had LM2 and LM5 listed as possibly being in northern England (it was either one or the other), so if LM2 is in japan, it looks as if LM5 might be in northern England. Sweet.

F1 monster

07-30-2005, 10:56 AM

One in US 03.
One in Japan 02.
Three in Bruneii. 01, 04, 05.

Northern England? Don't think so.

Peloton25

07-30-2005, 08:31 PM

One in US 03.
One in Japan 02.
Three in Bruneii. 01, 04, 05.

Northern England? Don't think so.

One in England - XP1LM ;) :p

My photo of #018 in Japan was taken in 1995. It would seem that car has changed hands a few times. I believe that the refit to Dk Gray/HDF Kit was covered briefly in RacingLine Magazine, but I do not know the issue.

One more night of debauchery here in Sin City and then I'll get the photo posted. :evillol:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

07-31-2005, 12:54 PM

Thanks for the info on the Lark #13R. Gret to see #16R painted in Papaya Orange

It looked better in its previous livery. Blue/White/Stripe

PatrickT82

07-31-2005, 07:06 PM

why 3 LMs in Brunei:-S

all Sultans??

mini magic

07-31-2005, 07:10 PM

Sultan's Brother actually.

Speak of the devil:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rosso-8-Anniversary-Sp-book-Mclaren-F1-GTR-LARK-F430-LM_W0QQitemZ6970152692QQcategoryZ29254QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

Peloton25

08-01-2005, 02:01 AM

Here's what you have all been waiting for:

http://a0.cpimg.com/image/04/00/50599940-01a4-01E0014E-.jpg

Taken February 5th, 1995 at the Nagoya Performance Car Show. It's somewhat hard to read, but behind the front wheel, and below the side marker light you can see a 'ZENT' sticker, which gives a direct tie in to the ZAZ Museum, not to mention the fact that both are in Nagoya.

This pic has been posted before, but this is the same car in Oslo, Norway taken in 1999. This would have been when Meissner owned it I believe.

http://a7.cpimg.com/image/03/A5/42653187-7fa5-018A0108-.jpg

Sometime between then and January 2002 it would get the refit to it's current look, but I am not certain exactly when that occurred.

>8^)
ER

Jimmyc

08-01-2005, 03:42 AM

Peloton25

08-01-2005, 04:32 AM

I've always assumed that Bscher's F1 was #008 - Cobalt Blue. That's only my speculation though.

>8^)
ER

Stratoraptor

08-01-2005, 10:21 AM

Here is that isssue of Rosso magazine if anyone wants it. If the price wasn't so high, I might think of buying it just for the pictures. It would be great if someone could translate the article for us, it could help reveal some info on the the cars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rosso-8-Anniversary-Sp-book-Mclaren-F1-GTR-LARK-F430-LM_W0QQitemZ6970152692QQcategoryZ29254QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

mini magic

08-01-2005, 11:30 AM

Stratoraptor

08-01-2005, 02:32 PM

I didn't even take notice. :P

DiabloFan

08-01-2005, 06:08 PM

If I remember right, it was mentioned before, that there was blue F1 in ZAZ museum in 1996. So it must be 018.

bucciali

08-01-2005, 06:19 PM

If I remember right, it was mentioned before, that there was blue F1 in ZAZ museum in 1996. So it must be 018.

Yep, I mentioned that before. And with Peloton's foto of it, where it has a ZENT sticker, I think that settles it. Still waiting for photos of #018 inside of ZAZ museum though :D

F1 monster

08-01-2005, 10:23 PM

...So that's four F1's Meissner has had.
Is there anyone out there we're aware of (excluding the SOB) who's had as many

Ron Denis had four for a long time. Not sure if he still does, since he was making efforts to sell them two years ago.

PatrickT82

08-04-2005, 05:18 PM

So 018 was the Gray HDF apparently for sale at schaefer in Germany.
So that's four F1's Meissner has had.
Is there anyone out there we're aware of (excluding the SOB) who's had as many

Was 018 also owned by Tomas Bscher. There was an article in a UK magazine years ago when it was talking about his 200mph daily commutes and the car looked just like the blue 018.

I saw #018 this january in Germany in Leonberg at a dealership (above Gemballa Porsche tuner) and it was darkgreay with high downforce kit.

but it wasnt blue definitely!

Would be unlikely if it now is blue though!

PatrickT82

08-04-2005, 05:20 PM

If I remember right, it was mentioned before, that there was blue F1 in ZAZ museum in 1996. So it must be 018.

hmm well then I saw the same car as mentioned it is now darkgrey with high downforce kit :lol2:

bucciali

08-04-2005, 06:20 PM

I saw #018 this january in Germany in Leonberg at a dealership (above Gemballa Porsche tuner) and it was darkgreay with high downforce kit.

Would be unlikely if it now is blue though!

Yep, I read that a few threads ago. And as I stated....

#018 probably has moved since the ELG video. I guess we can put the 018 on the bottom of the list too then.

I just searched for the thread where SDC apparently posted pix of it in Germany at a dealer. Those were hosted at the Flinger site, which is now offline. SDC, or anyone, could you post them again?

....#018 has moved since 1995 (data photo posted by Peloton), to Europe. The pictures that I am waiting for, of it being in ZAZ museum, also date from that time period (1992-1995).

But to the point, SDC, or should I say PT82 :D could you find those pics you made at the dealership and post them again?

Anybody have any info on the yellow F1???

PatrickT82

08-04-2005, 06:22 PM

ok I will post the pics again soon

BRX880

08-05-2005, 06:32 AM

Hi!

Does anyone of you guys know, where I can buy this issue of rosso-mag in internet?
I live in Germany and do not have the chance buying japanese magazines at all!

bucciali

09-11-2005, 05:39 PM

I have updated the list again, by adding the following two pictures. My source has gone through his archive and scanned his analogue pictures dating from 1996. It shows #018 in its original blue coat, as we have seen it in Peloton's image a while back.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/7424/74yc.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74yc.jpg)

As a bonus, he visited the museum again this summer, finding #053 as a normal part of the exhibition, an assumption we made after seeing the Rosso article.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/3905/11cut3ic.th.jpg (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11cut3ic.jpg)

Enjoy! :D

/Bucciali

BMW.WilliamsF1Team

09-11-2005, 05:55 PM

^Thanks for the pics! I'm guessing that #018 in the blue?

Peloton25

09-11-2005, 07:08 PM

If that is any car but chassis #018 I would be shocked.

I'm also beginning to believe that we might have photos of both of the white F1s here, not just chassis #053. In all the shots of Okamoto's white F1 the car wears a windshield banner. Unfortunately that's an easy item to remove if a new owner wanted to, but I'm still not convinced they are the same cars. If we could only get a shot of the interior in the Okamoto car, or maybe even some more recent photos from his collection to show that car still there, I think we could confirm that we've found #031 and that both white F1s are in Japan.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

09-12-2005, 02:03 AM

Edited my post. Yes indeed, it is #018, as we were assuming.

Interesting theory about #030 and #053. You never really know for sure. If only my source had photographed the description stand, it may have had the chassis no. on it.

Peloton25

09-12-2005, 03:48 AM

Your source would have photographed the description of the car we already have a confirmed chassis number for though. ;)

We need someone with access to Okamoto's collection to prove if my theory is true.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

09-12-2005, 04:44 AM

Let me see what I can do.... :D

SD F1

09-12-2005, 05:39 PM

The LM here is LM02 correct?

Wayne

FortuneF1

09-15-2005, 12:20 AM

FortuneF1

09-15-2005, 12:24 AM

also 016r,the now papaya orange and road legalized, former team bigazzi car is in australia for sale from maranello motorsport as well

Peloton25

09-15-2005, 12:49 AM

anyone know where 019r is? is it still in japan, last i knew it was the yellow corn car? or have any info on thomas bscher's 1998 fia gt car the all black and red striped davidoff gtr, its impossble to find pictures of it, ive only found 2

#19R is here in the USA now and has been refitted with the LARK livery that it wore in 1997 at the 1000kms of Suzuka race. It may be owned by a gentleman named Kevin Crowder, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. Search this forum for Hudson Historics and you should find a good set of photos of it in it's present condition.

#19R was not the Yellow Corn car, though there were several references to that chassis number in the Hitotsuyama Racing literature and often the car was given that reference number in race listings. The Yellow Corn GTR turned out to be chassis #25R.

#19R raced alongside the Yellow Corn GTR in the JGTC series for several years under the Nicos and SOK liveries. You may be familiar with those. It stopped racing at the end of 2003 I believe, and was sent to the factory for its refit to the LARK livery before coming to the USA via Symbolic Motors.

The Team Davidoff liveried GTR was GTR #22R. It also raced under the Loctite livery at the 1998 LeMans race and spent some time in the GTR Euro Series in 1998. It is difficult to find photos of it in the Black/Red livery. In 1997 it was one of the Gulf/Davidoff GTRs. I don't think anyone really knows where that car ended up.

The info you offer on #16R is weel known by those of us here. In fact, one of the employees at Maranello Motorsport has made a few recent contributions to the discussion directly.

>8^)
ER

SD F1

09-15-2005, 01:28 AM

Sorry to post this again, but Does anyone know what LM this is here?
:banghead:

Thanks
WG

FortuneF1

09-15-2005, 01:54 AM

#19R is here in the USA now and has been refitted with the LARK livery that it wore in 1997 at the 1000kms of Suzuka race. It may be owned by a gentleman named Kevin Crowder, but that hasn't been confirmed yet. Search this forum for Hudson Historics and you should find a good set of photos of it in it's present condition.

#19R was not the Yellow Corn car, though there were several references to that chassis number in the Hitotsuyama Racing literature and often the car was given that reference number in race listings. The Yellow Corn GTR turned out to be chassis #25R.

#19R raced alongside the Yellow Corn GTR in the JGTC series for several years under the Nicos and SOK liveries. You may be familiar with those. It stopped racing at the end of 2003 I believe, and was sent to the factory for its refit to the LARK livery before coming to the USA via Symbolic Motors.

The Team Davidoff liveried GTR was GTR #22R. It also raced under the Loctite livery at the 1998 LeMans race and spent some time in the GTR Euro Series in 1998. It is difficult to find photos of it in the Black/Red livery. In 1997 it was one of the Gulf/Davidoff GTRs. I don't think anyone really knows where that car ended up.

The info you offer on #16R is weel known by those of us here. In fact, one of the employees at Maranello Motorsport has made a few recent contributions to the discussion directly.

>8^)
ER

thanks for the info. i have a few picture of 019r in its current livery, i didnt know if those were current though, i am familiar with the sok/nicos liveries as well. as for the gulf/davidoff/loctite/emi car the last owner i know of was thomas bscher, meaning he probably still owns it. as for the 016r reference, sorry im new to this forum as of today and obviously need to catch up on my recent mclaren f1 history, as i am a huge fan of these cars and their racing history, ive already spent hours reading these threads, lol

Peloton25

09-15-2005, 11:15 AM

Sorry to post this again, but Does anyone know what LM this is here?
:banghead:

Thanks
WG

From page 1...

Guys
The Lark 13R is in transit to Australia.
The White F1 is 053
The Lm is 002.

>8^)
ER

Peloton25

09-15-2005, 11:22 AM

as for the gulf/davidoff/loctite/emi car the last owner i know of was thomas bscher, meaning he probably still owns it.

Maybe he still owns it...

I don't believe this GTR ever carried EMI sponsorship though. That would be #24R which was owned and driven by Steve O'Rourke in the later part of it's career. We learned recently that Rowan Atkinson owns that GTR now and it wears its original FINA livery again.

as for the 016r reference, sorry im new to this forum as of today and obviously need to catch up on my recent mclaren f1 history, as i am a huge fan of these cars and their racing history, ive already spent hours reading these threads, lol

No problem - take your time and enjoy. :thumbsup:

>8^)
ER

tak43

09-15-2005, 06:48 PM

Peloton25

09-15-2005, 07:31 PM

Sweet photo!!! :thumbsup:

I think he might be specifically looking for the shots of this car when it was not wearing the Davidoff or Dayoff sponsorship. The car is almost completely black in those photos with only the red lines to set it off, and just a few remaining sponsor decals.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

09-15-2005, 07:52 PM

http://k5mcl.smugmug.com/photos/36183638-O.jpg

http://k5mcl.smugmug.com/photos/36183717-O-0.jpg

Peloton25

09-15-2005, 07:58 PM

You know, since that car wore that race number at LeMans in 1998, I wonder if those shots were taken at LeMans qualifying. Never really crossed my mind before.

>8^)
ER

SD F1

09-15-2005, 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=Peloton25]Maybe he still owns it...

I don't believe this GTR ever carried EMI sponsorship though. That would be #24R which was owned and driven by Steve O'Rourke in the later part of it's career. We learned recently that Rowan Atkinson owns that GTR now and it wears its original FINA livery again.

See Peloton I told you that this was the car that TVRFreak saw in the factory.

WG

tak43

09-15-2005, 11:31 PM

If the link did work try this and go the Mclaren
Album

http://community.webshots.com/user/tak43105

FortuneF1

09-16-2005, 12:50 AM

thats the car all right, it ran in the fia gt series in 1998. i watched all of the races on speed chaneel which was speedvision at that time, of course they condensed the races to a 1 hour showing instead of the full 3-4 hour enduro. it wore the davidoff sponsorship decals like in the first pic, great pics, thanks! oh yeah and that parabolica car in the photo album looks like 019r with the lark sponsorship removed and parabolica added. the lark 019r and the 1998 davidoff car are my 2 favorite liveries. :bigthumb: by the way anyone know the chassis #? should be the same as the loctite car for the 1998 24 hours of le mans

FortuneF1

09-16-2005, 12:58 AM

Is this the Team Davidoff liveried GTR that you are taking about i took this photo at Silverstone in May 1998 It was driven by Thomas Bscher and Geoff Lee.

I have quite few of this car

http://image52.webshots.com/152/2/65/87/452126587SrCjOG_ph.jpg

how many photos? id like to see more of the car wearing the davidoff livery, its been next to impossoble for me to find photos of it!

bucciali

09-21-2005, 03:37 PM

F1 monster

09-21-2005, 03:39 PM

Amazing pics! Thanks.

mini magic

09-21-2005, 04:26 PM

WOW. Thanks a lot dude!

F1 monster

09-21-2005, 04:54 PM

So there's 4 McLarens there, total? Pretty incredible, and definitely worth visiting.

Peloton25

09-21-2005, 05:19 PM

Looks like just two in the most recent photos - LM2 and #053. The GT isn't visible.

#018 hasn't been there for a while - since at least late 1999. We know #13R is no longer there either.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

09-21-2005, 05:38 PM

I have put up the first post of this thread as a actual overview of what we think is in Japan. I try to update it frequently.

As Peloton mentions, it seems to be 2 at the moment.

And speaking of 13R...were these known already?

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9673/2002cgnavidayf1gtr13r33mj.th.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2002cgnavidayf1gtr13r33mj.jpg) http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1299/2002cgnavidayf1gtr13r22yi.th.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2002cgnavidayf1gtr13r22yi.jpg) http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7281/2002cgnavidayf1gtr13r16mi.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2002cgnavidayf1gtr13r16mi.jpg)

F1 monster

09-21-2005, 09:57 PM

What are we looking at in the third pic? What's on the end of the engine? Throttle linkages?
Thanks!

Peloton25

09-21-2005, 10:21 PM

I had those three - and yes, that is the throttle linkage. That shot was taken through the grill on the back of the car looking into the engine bay at the back of the motor. Definitely a cool photo.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

09-25-2005, 01:00 PM

Updated my first post in this thread with all the pictures I posted lately. Also included all new facts and assumptions.
Again, if you have more info, let us know!

Peloton25

09-29-2005, 09:52 AM

Looks like Japan is the place to be on November 6th, 2005.

http://www.nigensha.co.jp/cgclub/image3/am2005pos.jpg

CG Club - Autumn Meet 2005 (http://www.nigensha.co.jp/cgclub/AM2005info.html)

Can anyone make it? :confused: :lol2:

= = = = = =

Those last three images of #13R were taken at a CG Club event actually.

From the images at that link, it would also appear that #053 made an appearance in an issue of Car Graphic recently. I'll have to keep my eyes open for that one.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

09-29-2005, 10:03 AM

Nah, those two women are not really my type (and no, neither is the guy) :P

What do you say? Cars? Well, I don't really like white cars. Red cars however I think are nice.

>on-topic< I don't think I'll be there, but I will be sure to notify my contact to go there.

Peloton25

09-29-2005, 10:14 AM

He's probably tired of looking at that car by now. :lol:

Might be a good chance to see it outside and possibly running.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

09-29-2005, 03:53 PM

Peloton25

10-28-2005, 01:52 PM

10. F1 - black - Ueno finish with GTR windshield banner
This F1 road car has a windshield banner like the GTRs have. An oddity. Chassis number unknown.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/386/ueno10ha.th.jpg (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ueno10ha.jpg) http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1100/ueno21ga.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ueno21ga.jpg) http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/83/ueno33jp.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ueno33jp.jpg)

It's been mentioned before as speculation in the original thread where I posted these photos, but I just wanted to get it on the record here. The original owner of this car is indeed supposed to have been Motakazu Sayama - the owner of "Ueno Clinic", and the one responsible for #01R even being at the 24Hrs of LeMans in 1995.

Also, even though none of the road cars on the DA Chassis History poster are clearly listed as having been painted this way, I am told that this was the original look of the car when it first left the McLaren Cars factory.

Given the dates when my source said it would have been built, I am inclined to believe this car may be chassis #043, listed as having been painted "Black Metallic". Maybe someday we will know for sure.

>8^)
ER

FortuneF1

10-29-2005, 08:04 AM

yep,:::sigh of relief::: just finished my japanese lessons, got my passport, and bought my plane ticket... im going so i can pretend the f1 is mine so i can hit on this girl:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/FortuneF1/Vertex%20Soarer/oka.jpg
and then i woke up... and realized that my mclaren f1's are 1/18th scale, which is smaller than my shoe, and that i dont have a hottie japanese girlfriend :::sigh:::

damn lotto, why cant i win it!
blahst!

FortuneF1

10-29-2005, 08:09 AM

by the way... is it just me or does the f1 look sort of wierd, like its uncomfortable in that plain white color... i wonder what a cadillac pearl white f1 would look like... :naughty: :boink:

bucciali

10-29-2005, 10:44 AM

I have updated the list with Eric's new info and the fact that 053 is for sale.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=437592&page=1

F1 monster

10-29-2005, 11:37 AM

... and that i dont have a hottie japanese girlfriend :::sigh:::
She's kinda mingin'

FortuneF1

10-29-2005, 12:03 PM

She's kinda mingin'

what the deuce? mingin?

F1 monster

10-29-2005, 01:05 PM

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minger

mini magic

10-29-2005, 04:10 PM

She's kinda mingin'

Thanks Ali G :rolleyes:

:biggrin:

mini magic

10-29-2005, 04:26 PM

I was going to wait until either me or Erik can identify this car but i figgure why not. This was taken at a dealer in Japan. I have emailed them asking for more info and if i get a reply, i'll be sure to share it. Enjoy the pic :D

http://k5mcl.smugmug.com/photos/42033485-L.jpg

BMW.WilliamsF1Team

10-29-2005, 04:53 PM

Looks like 28R to me, but DAMN that is an amazing collection. I wonder if the owner drives the cars. Probably not unforunately.

Edit: Could that be the CLK LM that was for sale on CarClassic.com a few years back?

mini magic

10-29-2005, 07:03 PM

carclassic is not a dealer. The car was sold through Oakfields

It could very well be 028R. In fact, its almost identical to how 028R appeared at Spa in '97

BMW.WilliamsF1Team

10-29-2005, 07:21 PM

carclassic is not a dealer. The car was sold through Oakfields

It could very well be 028R. In fact, its almost identical to how 028R appeared at Spa in '97

I never said they were a dealer. I merely said that it was "for sale on" CarClassic.com. I can put my car "for sale on" Autotrader.com, but that doesn't mean Autotrader.com is a dealer.

Peloton25

10-29-2005, 07:23 PM

GTR #28R also finished the FIA GT season at Laguna Seca in 1997 wearing race number '1'

It didn't race under any other liveries since then, so the hypothesis seems likely.

>8^)
ER

FortuneF1

10-29-2005, 08:18 PM

Peloton25

10-29-2005, 08:54 PM

:eek2: am i dead? i could sware i just caught a glimpse of heaven... somebody pinch me please...

I'm not able to post the words I uttered when I first saw that photo.

I do believe that it isn't a photo of one collection. I think the cars were brought together there for a "shock and awe" photo to be used on the main page of a website or in advertisements. That picture is taken on the second floor of the dealership and there weren't any other photos on their site of those cars or any mention of them being for sale.

Impressive shot though - and as Chris mentioned - it must have been taken quite recently with the MC12 being present.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

10-29-2005, 09:35 PM

I'm not able to post the words I uttered when I first saw that photo.

Uttered? A bit of an understatement :D

FortuneF1

10-30-2005, 03:45 AM

so did anyone else happen to notice the absence of the enzo? ...stupid enzo...

bucciali

10-30-2005, 09:06 AM

Wow!

I was wondering where the Gulf GTR's were.... :D :D

Nice to see such a gathering of supercars

jayfive

10-30-2005, 03:27 PM

has anyone actually noticed the f50 gt in that shot theres three in the world, rarer than a lm f1

F1 monster

10-30-2005, 06:53 PM

Yes, absolutely amazing.

FortuneF1

10-31-2005, 12:07 AM

has anyone actually noticed the f50 gt in that shot theres three in the world, rarer than a lm f1

maybe more rare than an f1 lm, but not more rare than a f1 gt...

bucciali

10-31-2005, 02:30 AM

Touché! :D

ArchangelGTR

10-31-2005, 10:58 AM

maybe more rare than an f1 lm, but not more rare than a f1 gt...

And also not quite as fast. Besides the F1 GT has racing pedigree. F50 GT?.. Stillborn...

FortuneF1

10-31-2005, 06:52 PM

And also not quite as fast. Besides the F1 GT has racing pedigree. F50 GT?.. Stillborn...

not even a stillborn, more like an abortion... sorry if i offend anyone...

F1 monster

10-31-2005, 07:21 PM

Nevertheless, the F50 GT s a very, very special car.

FortuneF1

10-31-2005, 07:41 PM

Nevertheless, the F50 GT s a very, very special car.

yeah but as you may or may not have noticed throughout these forums, im not a big fan of ferrari, or porsche... due to the political pull they have in the racing world. rules and regulation changes always seem to be made when either ferrari or porsche cant win and they start whining because they are getting their asses handed to them. when was the last time you heard mclaren whining when they were doing shitty?

Peloton25

11-01-2005, 08:10 PM

Bucialli PMd me as he was headed to bed to let me know that the user F48Koenig had posted this gem over on SCF.com today:

http://img83.exs.cx/img83/3912/mc76050514143bj.jpg

It may be a small photo, but I know I said "Wow" when I saw it... :grinyes:

His caption reads: "Pics of the workshop of Iding Power, a Japanese Tuner, with some enzo's up and on the lift, and a darkgray F1 under the lift."

This looks to me like it can only be the Tag Heuer F1 - which if I have not mentioned in this thread - is suspected by me of being chassis #012.

This is the first new photo I have seen of this car in over a year, and the existence of the Enzo in that shot serves to show that it's a fairly recent one. The car does look a bit dusty and it appears to me that all the stickers have been removed. Hopefully more pics or info will turn up soon. :cool:

>8^)
Erik

FortuneF1

11-01-2005, 08:40 PM

an amazing photo indeed, there also appears to be an f355 in the background of the photo... i like this color on the f1! sort of an in-between silver and gunmetal color... i have not seen many photos of the tag heuer car

Peloton25

11-01-2005, 09:21 PM

Iding Power is a Japanese tuner of Ferraris and BMWs. Look up the Iding Power F365 and you should find some photos/info on them.

>8^)
ER

F1 monster

11-02-2005, 12:20 AM

Great find!

bobbejaan

11-03-2005, 05:05 AM

very nice thread guys

i love the Mclaren F1

is there a list of all of the F1's in the world ?

murraydeschot

11-03-2005, 06:08 AM

is there a list of all of the F1's in the world ?

The book "Driving Ambition" - probably the greatest and most accurate source of information on the history and development of the F1, aside, of course, from our own "Brains Trust" here - has a pull-out supplement which lists every car produced, their respective V.I.N. numbers and the exterior body colour when produced (many were subsequently resprayed when they were sold on).

However, for obvious confidentiality issues, it doesn't list the locations of the cars.

peter i

11-03-2005, 09:35 AM

:D you guy really a F1 Nuts! Great Pic

hurstg01

11-03-2005, 10:04 AM

The car does look a bit dusty and it appears to me that all the stickers have been removed. Hopefully more pics or info will turn up soon. :cool:

>8^)
Erik

The F1 doesn't look too dusty here though :wink: -

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.bohp.net/html/off013.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Diding%2Bpower%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den% 26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

scroll down a bit and the great car is there for all to see

murraydeschot

11-03-2005, 10:08 AM

hurstg01

11-03-2005, 10:34 AM

Anyone translate Jinglish to English?! ;)

Google translation aide - not the best in the world :wink: :banghead: :screwy: :shakehead :headshake :rofl:

F1 monster

11-03-2005, 11:27 AM

Sorry, haven't touched Japanese in five years so it's a bit rusty...but, in conjunction with my friend, here's a better translation:
Next up in the contenders for ultimate supercar is this candidate, which seats three. For lottery winners only, it's quick-revving motor raised the standard [ either at this meet or for all supercars--not sure what the author is implying...but he's giddy about it!].

Peloton25

11-03-2005, 02:33 PM

The F1 doesn't look too dusty here though :wink: -

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.bohp.net/html/off013.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3Diding%2Bpower%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den% 26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

scroll down a bit and the great car is there for all to see

Very cool! :thumbsup:

Note that your photo appears on a page from 1997, whereas the shot Bucialli found for us by way of another forum is from March of 2005. Both are sourced from the same website.

I think he's already trying to get a high res version, more shots if possible, and more info from the website owner. I'd love to know that my speculation on the chassis number is right, but really I'm just happy to see that car is alive and well, and still in Japan.

>8^)
ER

peter i

11-03-2005, 03:49 PM

I feel Lucky to know AF F1 forums :D

murraydeschot

11-04-2005, 02:07 AM

bucciali

11-04-2005, 03:53 AM

hurstg01

11-04-2005, 05:48 AM

intersting colour combo in the 4th pic. is that red carpet or that red criss-cross metal matting type thing (know what i mean?!)?

amanichen

11-04-2005, 09:03 AM

intersting colour combo in the 4th pic. is that red carpet or that red criss-cross metal matting type thing (know what i mean?!)?I wonder if it's a temporary protector for the true carpet?

hurstg01

11-04-2005, 09:33 AM

is this one still in Japan?

http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~express/scenic/cgmw99/cgmw99.html

my bad if it has already been covered here, but i cant read japanese

ArchangelGTR

11-04-2005, 09:44 AM

Excellent find Bucciali!

:bigthumb:

bucciali

11-04-2005, 10:10 AM

Thanks ArchangelGTR! :)

Hurstg01, I think that one, presumably 003, is the one we just stumbled upon earlier on in this thread. The dusty one at Iding power.

Is that indeed what you were thinking, Erik?

/Bucciali

Peloton25

11-04-2005, 12:00 PM

No - not at all actually. The dusty one at Iding Power looks to be the Tag Heuer car to me - #4 on your original list - which I strongly believe is chassis #012.

#003 is what the black one that hurst posted should be, and I haven't seen any evidence that it has left Japan, so we'll leave it there for now.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

11-04-2005, 03:15 PM

bucciali, great work. I'd been on that site recently but couldn't work out where to go (even with babelfish translator). Btw, the site is

http://www.bingosport.co.jp/

I think you added an "s" onto the end of yours

mini magic

11-04-2005, 03:16 PM

btw, the ad says its a '94 so if thats right, it can't be 070

Peloton25

11-04-2005, 03:39 PM

btw, the ad says its a '94 so if thats right, it can't be 070

Yeah - I think we are dealing with two plain silver F1s over there for sure, plus the silver car with the red stripe, for a total of three.

If you look at the entry on page one of this thread that's marked #010/#070, I think that the photos taken inside what appears to be a repair garage would be the same F1 that is now for sale at BingoSport. Certainly the four additional holes in the front bumper have the exact same pattern.

When the car believed to be #070 was seen at the Matsuda breakfast meeting, there was nothing red in the interior either. It's hard to tell with the limited angles on the BingoSport car, but I am hopeful that the red we are seeing are simply a set floormats.

Assuming that the year in the ad is correct and the paint color we are seeing here is original, possible chassis numbers for this BingoSport car are #001 (doubtful), #006, #009, #010, & #013.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

11-04-2005, 05:19 PM

Can't be 009

Peloton25

11-04-2005, 05:30 PM

Oh yeah... I knew that. :slap:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

11-04-2005, 07:04 PM

Of course you did ;)

Peloton25

11-04-2005, 07:26 PM

Of course you did ;)

:chair: :grinyes:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

11-04-2005, 07:36 PM

Its not your fault you're getting old :p

bucciali

11-06-2005, 05:59 PM

Looks like Japan is the place to be on November 6th, 2005.

Can anyone make it? :confused: :lol2:

= = = = = =

>8^)
ER

....keeping this thread alive :D

With lack of more information at this point on the two F1's we recently '(re-)discovered', here's some pics of 053 at the CG meeting. Very tiny, I know, but I just stumbled upon them by accident. Will start hunting for HQ ones.

Sorry, no thumbs now. Imageshack is acting weird.
(http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/981375920cg-meeting.jpg)
[img=http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/442373393CG-meeting1.jpg] (http://www.uploadhouse.com/images/442373393CG-meeting1.jpg)

........10 min......Bingo!

check out this beauty! :D :D

[IMG]http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/3821/cgmeeting22fg.th.jpg (http://img475.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cgmeeting22fg.jpg)

/Bucciali

Peloton25

11-06-2005, 06:49 PM

Ok - I'm confused here... The windshield banner is back? :confused:

That looks more like the Shin Okamoto White F1 now. Hmmm... We will need to see the interior to be sure, but since it's raining their might not be any interior photos.

I wonder if #053 has been sold - I will try to find out.

If so, then this would have to be a second white F1, likely the Okamoto car and likely chassis #031.

= = = = = =

Ok, this is definitely not the same white F1 that was in the ZAZ Museum, and is certainly the same car from the photos of Okamoto's collection. Note the FUBA-style antenna which I have highlighted. Then go back and look at the more recent photos from ZAZ and Rosso and you will find that there is no antenna on that car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/fa435f2d_edit.jpg

What's kind of funny though is the CarGraphic photos of the white F1 promoting the event almost certainly show #053. There's no banner and no antenna in those shots. It's like a bait and switch... :lol:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

11-06-2005, 06:57 PM

Good work

bucciali

11-07-2005, 08:03 AM

Hmm, bit confusing with the white McLaren. Erik, I don't think it really sounds plausible that CG would use a different F1 to promote the event. The only reason I can think of is that CG had it confirmed as participant for the meeting, but that because it's now for sale, ZAZ museum didn't want to give it out (or maybe the new owner didn't?). Then they could have made a deal with Okamoto to at least have a white F1 present, so that all their promotion material would not be wrong.

Now, to keep in line with the regular sharing of beauties, I have come across another beauty. We know this car, but we only had a very very low res picture of it. This one is unfortunately not too sharp, but it's of a more acceptabe size :)

http://img346.imageshack.us/img346/5374/1999cgclubmeetingwestmclarenf1.th.jpg (http://img346.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1999cgclubmeetingwestmclarenf1.jpg)

jkbon

11-07-2005, 08:18 AM

It's the ex-Ron Dennis car

bucciali

11-07-2005, 08:22 AM

Exactly. This is #003.Unfortunately, still same timeframe, so no new info :(

cche2052

11-07-2005, 10:22 AM

whoa, what's that antennae on the back for?

Peloton25

11-07-2005, 10:47 AM

Hmm, bit confusing with the white McLaren. Erik, I don't think it really sounds plausible that CG would use a different F1 to promote the event. The only reason I can think of is that CG had it confirmed as participant for the meeting, but that because it's now for sale, ZAZ museum didn't want to give it out (or maybe the new owner didn't?). Then they could have made a deal with Okamoto to at least have a white F1 present, so that all their promotion material would not be wrong.

I see the point you are trying to make, but I don't think that #053 was ever going to be at this event. I'm betting they knew exactly which white F1 was coming, but that conveniently CarGraphic had photos of #053 from a previous occasion and figured that 99.9% of people would never notice the difference between the two cars. The reason I suggest they knew which car would be there is that you can also see Okamoto's F40 LM and his unique CLK GTR LM in the second small photo. It makes more sense to me that it would be his F1 attending all along.

whoa, what's that antennae on the back for?

I will guess and say a radio. Don't tell Gordon Murray. :grinno:

>8^)
ER

bucciali

11-07-2005, 11:59 AM

Ofcourse, I didn't think that far and didn't recognize his collection partially displayed there.

Okay, so the moral of this story.....there's two white F1's (still) in Japan :cool: and I need to change my recap ASAP with all this new info :biggrin:

When updated I'll let you guys know and don't hesitate to check it at that stage! ;)

/Bucciali

Peloton25

11-07-2005, 12:30 PM

This is one of my favorite threads on the forum - of course I will check it. Once again, the efforts here to organize all this stuff are tremendous, and tremendously appreciated. :cool:

Thanks for the hi-res shot of #003 as well. :thumbsup:

>8^)
ER

FortuneF1

11-07-2005, 01:33 PM

This is one of my favorite threads on the forum
>8^)
ER

i agree, this thread is one of the best... lots of info being exchanged/shared, and photos as well :grinyes:

bucciali

11-07-2005, 02:03 PM

Thanks guys! I am glad that I started it :cool:

F1 monster

11-07-2005, 02:39 PM

I am really enjoying this thread too. It's amazing what our eagle-eyed members can figure out. Unfortunately, I would make a lousy detective...to me all white F1s look identical--the way you guys keep track of the details is fantastic!

mini magic

11-07-2005, 05:46 PM

Thanks for the pic bucciali. Its really amazing how many pics are left undiscovered because we don't really know what we're searching for. The pic you posted is on the 1st page of the google image search for "1999 cg club meeting west"

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=1999+cg+club+meeting+west&btnG=Search

bucciali

11-07-2005, 06:07 PM

Heya guys,

I've edited my first post, to make for an up-to-date list of the Japanese F1 fleet! :-)

There's more pics, more cars (a total of 12 now!) and a new speculation (thanks Mini_Magic!)!

Check it here! (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=437592&page=1)

And to say it in a smiley:

:useless:

And remember, we are still waiting for more info, so keep your eyes on this thread. :D

One question I still have now (may have been discussed somewhere else?):
Who bought #13R at Maranello Motorsport and where is it now?

/Bucciali

bucciali

11-07-2005, 06:15 PM

Thanks for the pic bucciali. Its really amazing how many pics are left undiscovered because we don't really know what we're searching for.

My pleasure! I was quite happy to find that pic, but of course it was not through Google as you will expect. It was the fact that #031 was at this year's CG club meet that I started looking. Quite extraordinary to find a pic from that year in that resolution. Quite unusual.

But to add to your remark: there are also many pics left undiscovered because you simply cannot find them with just Google. But to give that away.... ;)

Peloton25

11-07-2005, 06:59 PM

You might want to add my "probably's" to the list at the top of the main page:

Okamoto's white F1 is probably #031.

The Tag Heuer F1 is probably #012.

The yellow F1 from ELG is probably #060.

The Ueno-look road car is probably #043.

I see those things mentioned in the text below, but it couldn't hurt to have the included at the top as well. Up to you though, since it is your baby. :wink:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

11-07-2005, 08:55 PM

013R is on its way to England. I have no idea who bought it.

bucciali

11-08-2005, 03:25 PM

Peloton25

11-08-2005, 03:37 PM

Didn't we have somebody who would pass by Maranello Motorsports by the way to photograph #16R?? Aussieslacker maybe?

sauc3 went by a day or two ago and found the place was closed and that #16R was no longer visible through the windows. He's the one who took the last set of photos of it.

Here's some more pics by the way of the F1 at Bingo Sport that I came across. NIce interior shots of the red floor mats.

Wow great photos even though they are small. That's quite a set of cars in their showroom too.

>8^)
ER

FortuneF1

11-08-2005, 04:57 PM

Wow great photos even though they are small. That's quite a set of cars in their showroom too.

>8^)
ER

quite a set indeed, i love how the f1 out-shines them all though... :iceslolan it just commands your attention so much more, i maybe be biased though... but not likely, since we all know the f1 would get more attention than any other supercar when parked near eachother...

murraydeschot

11-08-2005, 07:42 PM

That's quite a set of cars in their showroom too.

>8^)
ER

Their showroom? That'd be my garage if I won the lottery (aka Dream Stable!)

Anyway, as for the carpets ... sorry ... that smacks of the domain of 'chavs' - roughly translated as English pubescent wannabe kids, driving cars with less horsepower than your average lawnmower, but festooned with more add-ons than your common-or-garden porn queen!

REALLY NOT a tasteful F1 addition IMO!

Peloton25

11-08-2005, 08:16 PM

F1 monster

11-08-2005, 10:20 PM

They are protective mats. The real ones are underneath.

BMW.WilliamsF1Team

11-08-2005, 10:35 PM

I originally thought they could just be there to protect the carpets, but since the outer ones are cut to size specific for the F1s passenger footwells that kind of ruined my theory.

On thing that is strange though is that the one for the driver's pedal box seems to flap up over the bottom of the pedals. I wonder if that's safe or if it's just not meant to be driven with the floormat installed?

>8^)
ER

You can see the black border of the floor mats reflecting light. The furthest floor mat (right passenger) is clearly a mat and not actual carpet. You can tell because it's lying on top of the real carpet with quite a gap.

Noddy

11-09-2005, 10:18 PM

http://home.att.ne.jp/wood/svr/File/File-UK/Mclaren-1.jpg

http://www.sportscarfan.com/yasu/mclarenf1/my1/131.jpg

http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~express/scenic/cgmw99/mf1.jpg

http://sus410-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/010415/01041516.jpg

http://www.geocities.jp/signalhood/indexs/fav18/fav18.4.jpg

http://berlingo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/photo/mclaren/1.JPG

http://berlingo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/photo/mclaren/4.JPG

http://www.kappa119.com/~yanachan/m/27.jpg

mini magic

11-09-2005, 11:11 PM

^ The red car is no longer there. It was discussed recently here:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=471725

peter i

11-10-2005, 05:37 AM

thanks ,cool pic!:]

bucciali

11-10-2005, 07:32 AM

Sorry Noddy, all well-known pictures for me. Thanks for the effort though!

mini magic

11-10-2005, 03:56 PM

Yes, all those pics are quite well known. I think all have been posted here at one time or another. But its the thought that counts ;)

Noddy

11-10-2005, 05:02 PM

Sorry Noddy, all well-known pictures for me. Thanks for the effort though!
Damn, 30 seconds of searching and 5 minutes of copy/paste right down the toilet... :smokin:

bucciali

11-24-2005, 07:20 PM

Peloton25

11-25-2005, 10:53 AM

bucciali

11-25-2005, 11:55 AM

Cool! Thanks Erik, for the info. Indeed, very nice to see a McLaren coming to Japan, helps to keep the thread alive :-)
Now all we need to find out is who the owner is and get some more pictures.
Still in the dark on what kind of event this was...:(

FortuneF1

11-25-2005, 08:15 PM

yes we must keep this thread alive at all costs...its one of my favorites...

Jota 5084

11-27-2005, 05:25 AM

#51 is no longer registred in Sweden , the roadregistratoin ended 2005-10-18. What a pitty , one less McLaren in Sweden!

bucciali

11-27-2005, 11:11 AM

et voila!

http://img456.exs.cx/img456/8932/mclarenf183oq.th.jpg (http://img456.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img456&image=mclarenf183oq.jpg)

Its green colour comes out better in this shot.

More coming up......

BMW.WilliamsF1Team

11-27-2005, 09:47 PM

^Thanks for the pic bucciali! I think green definitely looks great on the F1. It doesn't appear to be the same as British Racing Green, but close in that shot. Looks good on it.

bucciali

11-28-2005, 10:05 AM

Here are the other highres images of #051 at this 'supercar' show. All credit goes to fellow-rarity-searcher F48Koenig, my dear 'colleague' on Supercarfrance, for passing me the link that contains these images! :thumbsup:

http://img498.exs.cx/img498/2690/mclarenf113xx.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf113xx.jpg) http://img498.exs.cx/img498/8761/mclarenf121py.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf121py.jpg) http://img498.exs.cx/img498/7558/mclarenf130jx.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf130jx.jpg) http://img498.exs.cx/img498/1702/mclarenf145ke.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf145ke.jpg) http://img498.exs.cx/img498/5865/mclarenf156bw.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf156bw.jpg) http://img498.exs.cx/img498/7498/mclarenf166zn.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf166zn.jpg) http://img498.exs.cx/img498/8826/mclarenf175sp.th.jpg (http://img498.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img498&image=mclarenf175sp.jpg)

To keep the track clean and F1 focused, here's a link to SupercarFrance.com to see pics of the other cars present at the show:
http://www.supercarfrance.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=290&start=2500.

bucciali

12-05-2005, 06:06 PM

Here's a few more, with a clearer shot of the interior:

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/4510/p38rf.th.jpg (http://img207.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img207&image=p38rf.jpg) http://img207.exs.cx/img207/305/p42qg.th.jpg (http://img207.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img207&image=p42qg.jpg) http://img207.exs.cx/img207/7244/p57ez.th.jpg (http://img207.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img207&image=p57ez.jpg) http://img207.exs.cx/img207/6066/p60jf.th.jpg (http://img207.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img207&image=p60jf.jpg)

FortuneF1

12-05-2005, 08:03 PM

im likin that green suede and leather, looks nice!

mini magic

12-07-2005, 10:03 PM

Do you have a date of this show in Japan. The car has had 5 owners before Meissner (who obviously no longer has it) and i'm trying to work out if it went new to Japan or not.

Peloton25

12-08-2005, 12:30 AM

Do you have a date of this show in Japan. The car has had 5 owners before Meissner (who obviously no longer has it) and i'm trying to work out if it went new to Japan or not.

Chris - these pics are obviously taken quite recently given some of the other cars in the shots. Meissner had this car since 2001, so there's no doubt in my mind that the car made its way from KS Autohandel in Germany to a new owner in Japan.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

12-08-2005, 01:14 PM

I also suspect that the show was helt very recently, since the photos surfaced at several places at the same time. The other cars in the show also point in this direction (the MC12 coz it's new and the EB110SS that recently came on the market there/into the country as shown on T2M.jp). But let me check my records, I can't remember a date right now.

/Bucciali

mini magic

12-08-2005, 07:05 PM

Thanks. I didn't think about the other cars.

Jota 5084

12-09-2005, 02:56 AM

Do you have a date of this show in Japan. The car has had 5 owners before Meissner (who obviously no longer has it) and i'm trying to work out if it went new to Japan or not.

The car had 5 owners in Sweden , doesent mean the it is 5 different persons ho owend it. If you own different companys you can put the company as the owner. #51 was used in trafic in Sweden first time 2000-04-18 , 2002-11-29 was milage on the car 3552Km. It had 5 owners in Sweden , the last owner was Stephen Rosenberg before him it was writen on a company called Naksam Maskin AB ho owns a Diablo GT
aswell (maby the EB110,CLK-GTR,Dauer....i have to check that). Before Naksam it was Förvaltnings AB Kungsängsliljan ho was the owner , all (owners) are lokated around Stockholm.

mini magic

12-09-2005, 08:31 AM

^ Thanks a lot for the info. I appreciate it.

So it goes:

First Förvaltnings AB Kungsängsliljan
Then Naksam Maskin AB (Meissner?)
Then Stephen Rosenberg
Then Japan

?

PatrickT82

12-10-2005, 08:26 AM

the white one from ZAZ is now for sale on www.mobile.de

search for McLaren

I contacted the seller and they replied that is still is in Japan and will stay there until its sold.

So maybe the white F1 will come to Europe! If so I must know where!
I'll keep contact with the seller

FortuneF1

12-10-2005, 09:52 AM

that site lists 4 f1's for sale. 2 gtr's, including a 97 longtail, and a yellow and a white roadcar!!!! the yellow one is rather close to me, in chicago... hmmmm... roadtrip!!!!!

mini magic

12-10-2005, 10:21 AM

The yellow one is not in Chicago. Its in California at Silicon Valley Auto Group

http://www.siliconvalleyautogroup.com/marques_stock/mclaren_1900/photo_page.html

FortuneF1

12-10-2005, 12:37 PM

hmmmm... that crazy german site says its in chicago...

Peloton25

12-10-2005, 02:50 PM

hmmmm... that crazy german site says its in chicago...

No... it says that the person to contact on that ad is in Chicago. It's likely just a broker trying to get in on the action. :screwy:

I've heard that #014 may already be sold. Not a huge surprise as it seems there are more F1 buyers now then there are cars available.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

12-11-2005, 09:58 PM

I now strongly believe the car for sale in Japan is 070. The colour is too light to be Magnesium Silver, which only leaves 070 which is M.B.S

http://tinyurl.com/c9alp

"* Tokyo showroom exhibition car 輌 * the new model car the valuable car which makes an automobile delivery in price application/response talks * travel distance 9900km * one owner car * Japan the there being * mechanic tool box a it is, * new model car accessory (FACOM tool set the) * pillow - the genuine travel case * genuine body cover and the like for connected private torque wrench * load."

Peloton25

12-12-2005, 04:23 AM

I think the previous Bingo Sport ad clearly ID'd that car as a 1994 F1 which rules out #070. :dunno:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

12-12-2005, 05:40 PM

ummm....

http://k5mcl.smugmug.com/photos/48063135-O.jpg

Peloton25

12-12-2005, 06:29 PM

ummm....

ummm....

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=3543972&postcount=120

:dunno:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

12-12-2005, 07:24 PM

Well, i now think its 070. The ad says '97. Why would they change it to '97 if it wasn't a '97?

Peloton25

12-12-2005, 07:52 PM

Why was it listed as '94 to begin with? Maybe they don't know what year the car is. :shakehead

Anyway, the car we believe to be #070 didn't have a red driver's seat insert - it was light grey. They aren't the same car.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

12-12-2005, 08:11 PM

Damn. Missed that one. Then i'm stumped. Has anyone tried emailing these guys?

Peloton25

12-12-2005, 08:21 PM

I believe that bucialli mentioned he emailed them and they wouldn't provide the info. I'm sure that's in this thread somewhere.

>8^)
ER

mini magic

12-12-2005, 10:35 PM

Thats the downside of a group of "trainspotters" like us is that people are less than willing to pass out info about particular cars. Although, having said that, the ferrari spotters have the same problems so i guess its not only us. Another reason why i think we should move to a private forum format. But thats for another day...

Peloton25

12-12-2005, 11:55 PM

Take this to a private forum and it will just be us chatting with each other. I can't count the amount of info and contributions that have come our way because of how readily available this forum is to everyone.

>8^)
ER

bucciali

12-13-2005, 04:52 AM

:-)
Well, communicating with Japanese is pretty hard in the first place, no matter how hard you try.
And they said something about them being prohibited by law to pass the chassis nr, according to Babelfish :) Some lame-*** excuse if you ask me ;)

I had a trip to Japan planned for next year, but things came up and it will probably be 2007 the earliest.

My source has disappeared into thin air, so I gotta find me a new one to keep us all posted.

Mini Magic, I cannot find any mentioning of an official date, but the photos seem to appear in week 47, so my best guess is the weekend of 19/20 november.

/Bucciali

mini magic

12-13-2005, 10:02 PM

Mini Magic, I cannot find any mentioning of an official date, but the photos seem to appear in week 47, so my best guess is the weekend of 19/20 november.

Thanks

PatrickT82

12-15-2005, 02:40 PM

I never read #51 has been inGermany at KS Autohandel

But Peloton replied to me in another topic it has been there...

anyone can clear this up.

it was the green one that was shortly at www.ks-autohandel.de

mini magic

12-15-2005, 03:02 PM

It was there for sale, but was sold and has now ended up in Japan

PatrickT82

12-16-2005, 02:04 PM

thnx\

then I am the more glad I take some nice shots of it~!!!

bucciali

12-21-2005, 01:28 PM

mini magic

12-21-2005, 05:22 PM

Nice. Good work once again

Peloton25

12-29-2005, 02:14 PM

Someone on SC.net just found this:

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1924263dsmall.jpg (http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1924263d.jpg)

Here (http://jmsk.cocolog-tcom.com/4cityroad/2005/11/f1_4279.html)

I haven't done the translation yet to see what info can be had, but figured I would pass it along for the rest to enjoy. :cool:

>8^)
ER

FortuneF1

12-29-2005, 02:43 PM

interesting wheels, must be custom, they dont appear to be lm/gtr wheels, any ideas anyone?

Peloton25

12-29-2005, 03:09 PM

Definitely custom as far as F1s go - it may be an off the shelf wheel from many of the wheel distributors in Japan that was simply forged as a blank and then the hub area was machined to match the F1. There are plenty of companies in that part of the world who could do something like that and the Japanese commonly mod their supercars in more unique ways than you see in many other parts of the world.

>8^)
ER

McLaren F1 Guy

12-29-2005, 04:01 PM

Those wheels look pretty cool, and usually I hate aftermarket wheels on an F1. I think they're a tad too big though. Looks like the #010/#070 car, huh?

hurstg01

12-29-2005, 06:07 PM

Those wheels look pretty cool, and usually I hate aftermarket wheels on an F1. I think they're a tad too big though. Looks like the #010/#070 car, huh?

i enquired about the chassis# on sc.net, but thought i'd try here as well

i was thinking of Jap F1's too, but the two listed above don't have the red stripe down the side

Erik - your expertise is needed!

mini magic

12-29-2005, 06:18 PM

The car with the red stripe is not 070. Its an earlier car. We don't know the chassis # though.

Peloton25

12-29-2005, 06:49 PM

i enquired about the chassis# on sc.net, but thought i'd try here as well

i was thinking of Jap F1's too, but the two listed above don't have the red stripe down the side

Erik - your expertise is needed!

I'm currently locked out of my SC.net account - I changed my PW to something case-sensitive over there and have now forgotten what I changed it to exactly. I'll have to play the 'Forgot Password' game with it a bit later. That's why I haven't replied over there to thank JapPerformance for finding that, or to answer your question.

As Chris states - the red stripe car is not one that we know the chassis number on. I haven't really pursued finding it to the fullest extent as I was hoping that bucialli would figure it out ;) but some people over there must know which car it is given the frequency that it is spotted.

I saw you said you only have two pics of it though - you should be able to find more searching this forum. In fact this link to several shots (http://berlingo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/photo/McLarenF1.html) is in the first post in this thread. I know there have been several more posted and linked. Unfortunately most of them are Japanese-sized photos. :disappoin

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

12-30-2005, 04:56 AM

I'm currently locked out of my SC.net account - I changed my PW to something case-sensitive over there and have now forgotten what I changed it to exactly. I'll have to play the 'Forgot Password' game with it a bit later. That's why I haven't replied over there to thank JapPerformance for finding that, or to answer your question.

As Chris states - the red stripe car is not one that we know the chassis number on. I haven't really pursued finding it to the fullest extent as I was hoping that bucialli would figure it out ;) but some people over there must know which car it is given the frequency that it is spotted.

I saw you said you only have two pics of it though - you should be able to find more searching this forum. In fact this link to several shots (http://berlingo.hp.infoseek.co.jp/photo/McLarenF1.html) is in the first post in this thread. I know there have been several more posted and linked. Unfortunately most of them are Japanese-sized photos. :disappoin

>8^)
ER

Xmas arrives late for Hurstg01!! Cheers Erik :smile:

bucciali

03-22-2006, 05:17 AM

Peloton25

03-22-2006, 05:37 AM

Nice to see this wonderful thread back on top with an update. Thanks for the continued efforts my friend. :)

>8^)
ER

FortuneF1

03-22-2006, 09:10 AM

where did the f1 gt go???

bucciali

03-22-2006, 06:12 PM

The GT hasn't been in any recent pictures of the ZAZ line-up. I believe on page 1, the actual recap, I listed it as 'up for discussion'.
It was part of the Rosso magazine August 2005 edition special on F1's, however a small pic that they had on their website announcing that special, showed the same setup as on the pictures I've just shared today.

I think it could still be the ZAZ collection, just not on display. I have seen many different line-ups (check the 1996 pics, only LM2 and 053 are shown there). However, with 013R being sold, it could very well be sold too.

Maybe Shin Okamoto was interested in expanding his collection. But then again, the gems in his collection were out on a field trip at the CG November Meeting, and the GT wasn't there. However, I have the suspicion that there are a few "high-end" collections in Japan, that we aren't seeing much of on the Internet.

Maybe 'coffeym' is still lurking the forum and could provide us with some info. Otherwise I guess we all need to chip in our :2cents: to save up for a AF-F1 community sponsored visit to Japan.
I volunteer to take the long flight :biggrin:

bucciali

03-23-2006, 06:02 PM

A few more. July 2005 this time. Now, I know the brightness is sorta lacking, but I like the yellowish/orangy glow to the pics.

I like the 3q frontal shots the best.

http://img109.exs.cx/img109/1986/20050703zaz025yt.th.jpg (http://img109.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img109&image=20050703zaz025yt.jpg) http://img109.exs.cx/img109/9012/20050703zaz043lh.th.jpg (http://img109.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img109&image=20050703zaz043lh.jpg) http://img109.exs.cx/img109/4874/20050703zaz031iv.th.jpg (http://img109.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img109&image=20050703zaz031iv.jpg) http://img109.exs.cx/img109/8749/20050703zaz012oy.th.jpg (http://img109.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img109&image=20050703zaz012oy.jpg) http://img109.exs.cx/img109/3202/ca7c5bm.th.jpg (http://img109.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img109&image=ca7c5bm.jpg)

On another note. I think it's so amazing how not more pics are floating around from any of the Japanese F1 fleet. The Tag Heuer one, for example, that has shown its face a few times at the Iding Power garage. How come there are not more and more decent pictures of that????

It is such a pity. Some cars with such a nice history, that we are not getting any wiser about. Just yet. Let's hope things change. Let's hope I win the lottery this Sunday, so I can buy myself a flight ticket and 2 months of holiday, to go and see these beauties and other Japanese automotive madness.

Oh well, back to work.....

hurstg01

03-26-2006, 02:50 PM

Here are some more of the unknown Silver/Grey Jap F1 with the red stripe and aftermarket wheels -

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1245/japf1unknown7pc.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japf1unknown7pc.jpg)

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6267/japf1unknown19kl.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japf1unknown19kl.jpg)

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/4288/japf1unknown20sv.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=japf1unknown20sv.jpg)

2 new pics of 2 different cars all on one weeks upoad from ExoticSpotter.com (other found on Erik's Paul Stewarts F1 thread here http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=539337 ) - proves they are still out there and being driven
:) :) :) :) :)

Peloton25

04-09-2006, 04:45 AM

Unknown silver F1 in Japan. Great photo though... :cool:

http://img52.exs.cx/img52/7400/12813xm.th.jpg (http://img52.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img52&image=12813xm.jpg)

Unfortunately it appears to be sold...

http://search.carhoo.jp/wa1459/car_detail1060215000.html

Poke around on their website and you will uncover a few more pics of this car.

>8^)
ER

peter i

04-09-2006, 10:47 AM

The Jap are so $$$$$$ :p

Le Man

04-09-2006, 01:19 PM

Many thanks for the link Eric, Interesting tech pic in maintenance section, (rear underfloor removed) That is the type of pic, I like to see.

bucciali

04-09-2006, 04:07 PM

Nice find, Erik!

Sweet pic too

amanichen

04-09-2006, 04:21 PM

Many thanks for the link Eric, Interesting tech pic in maintenance section, (rear underfloor removed) That is the type of pic, I like to see.Exactly where is the maintenance section? Most of us here don't understand Japanese.

bucciali

04-09-2006, 04:33 PM

Right here!
http://dp06122097.lolipop.jp/maintenance.htm

amanichen

04-09-2006, 04:36 PM

Right here, Andrew!
http://dp06122097.lolipop.jp/maintenance.htm
Thanks, but who's andrew? ;)

bucciali

05-02-2006, 04:34 AM

The red-striped F1 has been spotted at Tokyo's Special Import-car Show of this year (SIS 2006).

http://img55.exs.cx/img55/1903/f1jpredstripe3oj.th.jpg (http://img55.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img55&image=f1jpredstripe3oj.jpg) http://img55.exs.cx/img55/6426/f1jpredstripe27dk.th.jpg (http://img55.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img55&image=f1jpredstripe27dk.jpg)

hurstg01

05-02-2006, 07:28 AM

bucciali

05-10-2006, 03:56 AM

Here's a picture of a sign outside the ZAZ museum, listing the cars on display. Taken in November 2005. Note there's only mentioning of 2 McLaren's, the LM and the road version. Now, the white one is still for sale, no?
And the GT not being on the list, would that mean it has been sold?
http://img78.exs.cx/img78/2037/img8170931302373607wq.th.jpg (http://img78.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img78&image=img8170931302373607wq.jpg)

bucciali

05-24-2006, 05:07 AM

At a Ferrari track event in 1999.

http://img141.exs.cx/img141/3720/991128macf1jp20ji.th.jpg (http://img141.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img141&image=991128macf1jp20ji.jpg) http://img141.exs.cx/img141/8098/991128macf1jp10fm.th.jpg (http://img141.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img141&image=991128macf1jp10fm.jpg)

My guess: 053

Peloton25

05-24-2006, 05:24 AM

Nice find, but your guess appears to be incorrect.

#053 was confirmed to be the chassis number of the ZAZ Museum car. This car has the stickers, windshield banner and unique Fuba-style antenna, so this has to be the other one owned by Shin Okamoto which should be #031.

Continuted thanks for keeping this thread alive, as always. :thumbsup:

>8^)
ER

bucciali

05-24-2006, 05:39 AM

My pleasure.

It's been 'quiet' on the Japanese F1 market ;-)
so that's why it's only old pics that I can find right now. :D

Le Man

06-02-2006, 06:09 PM

Found this!! (not sure if its been seen before?)

http://www.motormagazinesha.co.jp/medialog/modules/tinyd1/index.php?id=9

Tag Heuer car!!

Peloton25

06-02-2006, 06:16 PM

I have seen it before but I don't think you'll find it linked in this thread. All we really need are hi-res versions of the photos so that the chassis number (which I believe to be #012) would be visible in the start button shot.

>8^)
ER

Jota 5084

06-03-2006, 01:18 PM

Found this at Lambo-power, there is a Maroon F1 in the workshop on the left of the picture. http://www.rosso-mag.com/07/movie/11.wvx
Hope its not a repost.

mini magic

06-03-2006, 01:44 PM

Maroon? It seems to me to be black or carbon. Its probably 003

Peloton25

06-03-2006, 02:00 PM

Maroon? It seems to me to be black or carbon. Its probably 003

Definitely #003 - the JPN plate that car wears reads 76 - 89, just like the one in the video. You can see the plate in the second photo here. :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/mcl0001.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/mcl0002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/mcl0003.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20B/mcl0004.jpg

Incidentally, that link didn't work for me and I suspect it may give others problems, so here's a direct link to the video:

http://www.rosso-mag.com/07/movie/11_1dvd.wmv

>8^)
ER

hurstg01

06-03-2006, 04:48 PM

Incidentally, that link didn't work for me and I suspect it may give others problems, so here's a direct link to the video:

http://www.rosso-mag.com/07/movie/11_1dvd.wmv

>8^)
ER

All i can see on the video is a sideways 360 Modena.....

try this one instead, not the one quoted above but anoher F1 video on track v Ferrrari Enzo

http://www.rosso-mag.com/07/movie/06.wvx

bucciali

06-26-2006, 07:21 PM

Tada. Nothing high-res or anything, but a nice shot at least. And a detail shot of the dash, showing some 1000+ KM's driven.

http://img105.imagevenue.com/loc34/th_49996_mclarenf1_jp_white1.jpg (http://img105.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc34&image=49996_mclarenf1_jp_white1.jpg) http://img12.imagevenue.com/loc115/th_50003_mclarenf1_jp_white2.jpg (http://img12.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc115&image=50003_mclarenf1_jp_white2.jpg)

Peloton25

06-26-2006, 07:40 PM

...and the clock battery is low. :tongue:

>8^)
ER

mini magic

07-05-2006, 06:23 PM

New pic?

http://cars.zaobao.com/pages3/carnews050630.html

hurstg01

07-06-2006, 02:26 AM

New pic?

http://cars.zaobao.com/pages3/carnews050630.html

New pic to me! Cheers :thumbsup:

bucciali

07-06-2006, 12:10 PM

New pic?

For me it is, yes.
But on first sight, I'm guessing this is a Chinese site. And the plate is from that Singaporean dealer, is it not?

In good time, I will update this list with all recent changes, also to include the "asian" F1's that don't have a thread for their own yet.

mini magic

10-01-2006, 09:56 AM

It has been confirmed on ferrarichat that the silver car in the showroom in Japan is 063

hurstg01

10-01-2006, 10:11 AM

It has been confirmed on ferrarichat that the silver car in the showroom in Japan is 063

can you pop that Fchat weblink on here please?

mini magic

10-01-2006, 11:38 AM

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136116412&postcount=28

hurstg01

10-01-2006, 12:40 PM

http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136116412&postcount=28
top man! :thumbsup:

Peloton25

10-29-2006, 10:53 AM

It has been confirmed on ferrarichat that the silver car in the showroom in Japan is 063

My roommate is in Tokyo right now, so I sent him over there to check it out and hopefully bring back more photos. :cool:

GUESS WHAT!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/party.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/party.gif

Yo Erik-
Two Mclarens at the place in Tokyo

Numbers 13 and 63

Both are the standard silver/grey color

wait for it... :naughty:

13 had a red accent on the side and a gordon murray signature on the left rear part of the wing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/woohoo.gif

I haven't had a chance to ask him what wheels were on it yet. I assume he would have mentioned the alternate wheels as well if it had them. Living with me means that he certainly knows what wheels an F1 should have, plus there was another one in the room.

Hopefully he snagged a bunch of photos (I asked him to take pics), which would be nice because I only have this one hires shot of what we now know to be chassis #013.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/th_PB260128.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/PB260128.jpg)

BTW: I don't know if this means that it's for sale. I checked their website yesterday and it wasn't listed. #063 is still there though:

http://www.bingosports.co.jp/

>8^)
ER

mini magic

10-29-2006, 02:35 PM

AWESOME. Good work Erik's roomate :D

hurstg01

10-29-2006, 03:15 PM

another mystery solved!....:thumbsup:

Peloton25

10-29-2006, 06:29 PM

Well the bad news is that "the grumpy bastard at the shop wouldn't let me take any pics". I figured that was a possibility since there weren't any photos in the email he sent. That's a shame, but I'd be more disappointed if they were cars we hadn't seen before.

Apparently #013 is wearing the standard F1 wheels again and does appear to be there for sale and not for some other reason. I guess I will be watching their website in the coming days/weeks to see if it appears there. We can hope...

He said that if someone wanted to go by there, they could get a few shots through the front windows. He apologizes for not doing so himself, but when he left the guy was still there watching him and making him uncomfortable. :frown:

With so many F1s over there, we really need to make some friends in Japan one of these days.

>8^)
ER

zx4000

10-29-2006, 07:02 PM

I bumped into a auto mania on the web but he live in Japan as Korea with Japan nationality. He frequently come to my blog to see Mclaren F1 stuff. One day, he posted two Mc pics in his blog with comment " I was surprised at seeing a Mclaren F1 enthusiast on the web who seem to know nearly Mclaren F1, so as reward to him, posting 97 year Mclaren F1 which is taken from my sort of close car freak", so the potential possibility as to chassis Nr. is #070 isn't it?

Another story is that there is a Mclaren F1 in Korea. The owner is ex-Ssang Yong auto company chairman now this company is belonged to SAIC, China auto company. One of my friends not having seen for a long time told me he saw obviously it was standing basement parking lot with protective Musso off-road car against bullet when he came by that chairman house with document in 1996. Recently i heard he handed it over to very close mate.( Not sure how much deal)

Anyway , you can find it below link ( it doesn't work for downloading the pics from that site), first click above the title "404 Blog Not Found" in his blog and then you can see it in page 2.

http://profile.blog.naver.com/hhroshi.do

bucciali

11-04-2006, 04:23 PM

http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc454/th_75074_bingosports_122_454lo.jpg (http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=75074_bingosports_122_454lo.jpg)

Peloton25

11-04-2006, 04:32 PM

http://img146.imagevenue.com/loc454/th_75074_bingosports_122_454lo.jpg (http://img146.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=75074_bingosports_122_454lo.jpg)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/bowdown.gif Nice work man, nice freaking work! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/ten_out_of_ten_emoticon.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/dude.gif

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bucciali

11-04-2006, 04:43 PM

jayfive

11-04-2006, 04:47 PM

so how many F1's does this make for sale then, counted at least 5 and most of those are silver :)

hurstg01

11-04-2006, 05:07 PM

Some great Pics Bucciali! :thumbsup:

Peloton25

11-04-2006, 06:34 PM

so how many F1's does this make for sale then, counted at least 5 and most of those are silver :)

I think the two Silver ones at BingoSport are the only road cars still for sale in Japan now. According to a source who had inquired about purchasing one from them, they are not interested in selling the F1s outside of Japan. That's a strange way to do the business of selling million dollar plus supercars in my opinion. Given the limited market for those cars as it is, I would imagine finding any buyer might be difficult at times, but it's their business.

The silver F1 that was for sale at LMP Cars (#070 we believe) is now marked sold in their inventory list. The silver one spotted in the Miyaoka showroom was almost certainly the same F1. Here's the last shots from LMP's website:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/IMG_1481.jpg

Before they sold it they added a satellite navigation unit, fitted HIDs to the car, and changed the battery.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/th_IMG_3342.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/IMG_3342.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/th_IMG_3332.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/IMG_3332.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/th_IMG_7566.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20C/IMG_7566.jpg)
Photo #1 comes 'oh so close' to making it into the chassis plaque thread. :frown:

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jayfive

11-04-2006, 06:51 PM

My fault i actually meant F1's in general not just japan

PatrickT82

11-05-2006, 08:58 AM

amazing!

ArchangelGTR

11-05-2006, 10:38 AM

It's interesting how each owner decides to add their touch to the interior .. especially the electronic gadgets.

Thanks all for the pics.

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