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I took a shower in 90 weight oil..Mbrannon 07-13-2005, 01:44 PM So, a couple months after picking up my '97 240SX that I posted pictures of on here a while back, the clutch started slipping. So, I decided, fuck it. Lets just start here. I picked up an ACT 6-Puck clutch kit and Fidanza flywheel and got them in yesterday. I am still looking for someone that can fabricate a lightweight driveshaft for the S14 which would more or less complete my initial drivetrain work. Anyways, on to the shower. Let me tell you that getting this transmission out, even after all nuts and bolts were removed was not an easy task. We kept making contact with the firewall and we had to more or less pry this thing off. But in order to do that, we had leaned it at a very steep angle in order to try to lower it without hitting the firewall (which we still hit). It was a tight fit to say the least. At the point of leaning it down, I was torwards the back supporting the weight of the thng which was now more or less not connected to anything but just didn't have enough room to slide out. I feel a drip and am just like fuck, so I try to move out of the way as I get splashed with 90 weight oil on its way down to the pan we had set out. Bob, one of the guys who runs the shop that I am allowed to use though was not as lucky as me and he was positioning the transmission jack when he took a shower in the shit. Let me tell you, this is the most putrid stuff in the world and it ruins anything it touches. Bob was basically gagging because this stuff just poured on him. We all tried not to laugh too hard but its funny not to. I owe all of these guys a case of beer after tomorrow night. And that is my story. We called it a night after we got the transmission out. Took a little less than 2hrs from the time we got it on the lift until the time everything was out and on a jack. Today, we should have everything back in and I can drive it home tonight. Good times. orestes 07-13-2005, 01:46 PM gear oil smells so bad, man that must have sucked. Mbrannon 07-13-2005, 01:52 PM gear oil smells so bad, man that must have sucked. Yeah, it's hard to top how bad this stuff smells. It really is enough to make you sick when it actually is spilled on you. I mean, I could barely handle what I was splashed with. I couldn't imagine how Bob felt. orestes 07-13-2005, 01:55 PM lol if only it was caught on video. no offense to that guy though. YOU'RE A SOLDIER BOB HANG IN THERE nissanfanatic 07-13-2005, 05:09 PM Yea drain the tranny first. For one thing, it makes it a lil lighter. Shit most of it drained out when I lowered the back of the tranny.lol And lower the engine a lil by loosening the crossmember bolts some. Makes removing the tranny much easier. My car smelled like gear oil after I changed my tranny's oil.lol And I didnt' spill a drop. I guess its just gay... If I ever replace my clutch again, I'm removing the engine. Gives me open access to the pressure plate bolts so I can torque them properly. BTW, its important to torque the flywheel bolts as well as pressure plate bolts. TRUBO_89 07-13-2005, 05:21 PM damn thats nasty shit first time i smelled that stuff during auto class and i almost puked my lunch out sidewayzS13 07-13-2005, 07:11 PM u should have taken pics of him covered in oil sidewayzS13 07-13-2005, 07:14 PM gear oil smells so bad, almost as bad as me. dude if you smell worse then gear oil that sucks sorry to hear that. maybe some perscription strength deodorant would help Chuki_breath 07-13-2005, 07:47 PM i think enjuku racing makes driveshafts for 240s. Not sure if there s13 specific or not. sidewayzS13 07-13-2005, 08:02 PM Chuki_breath 07-13-2005, 08:03 PM yep they seem to be s13 specific. Im sure they could work with you though if you really wanted one. orestes 07-13-2005, 08:13 PM dude if you smell worse then gear oil that sucks sorry to hear that. maybe some perscription strength deodorant would help lol yeah ive been trying to get around to that, but i would need luxuries like running water and a mirror and soap to really get the job done. and my cave doesnt have any of those so i guess im screwed. oh well its worth it because caves are tight. sidewayzS13 07-13-2005, 08:48 PM you cave doesnt have running water but it has high speed internet? Chuki_breath 07-13-2005, 09:13 PM be sure not to chip a tooth lol. Im sorry im lame. orestes 07-13-2005, 10:25 PM you cave doesnt have running water but it has high speed internet? ya i know its weird huh? but overall its a pretty pimp cave. zacremacle 07-14-2005, 01:37 AM orestes 07-14-2005, 02:11 AM ewww hell naw that bitch is gross Mbrannon 07-14-2005, 02:44 AM Yeah, it should have been drained. It's one of those afterthoughts that was just forgotten in the moment as we were doing it. I am sure Bob assumed it was drained when he started positioning the jack. Anyways, got home a couple hours ago and everything is more or less done. I left it there to go back tomorrow and do some last minute finishing up since I only had about 2hrs today and had to be heading out by 9:30pm. On an unrelated side note, I really need a driver's side tail light cover for a '97. This thing is annoying the shit out of me. Checked the local junkyard and ebay and found nothing at the first and only a passenger side on the latter. This (http://photobucket.com/albums/y164/mbrannons14/?action=view¤t=damnrock.jpg) makes me cry. 240SXSlideStar 07-14-2005, 11:44 AM mbrannon, I'd kill for a 97 with a broken tail light! lol orestes 07-14-2005, 02:55 PM orestes you postwhore! he made me do it orestes 07-14-2005, 09:22 PM no i didn't nissanfanatic 07-14-2005, 11:05 PM man I don't know what kind of problem your talking about putting in the tranny and pressure plate bolts.. its easy on that car. I just took apart a S13 5 speed and it was fairly easy to take out compared to other transmissions. Also I dunno why you have problems with the pressure plate bolts, thats basic shit, and if you can't get to one at the top, if thats your problem, get a short stiff prybar and move the flywheel. Removing the transmission is a lot easier then pulling the engine, I have no idea why people remove engines to get out the transmission......... just be patient and don't get frustrated, thats really the best advice I can give in the long run. I have fun when I do it. I meant getting to the pressure plate bolts with a torque wrench. I don't have good enough clearance where I work to get a good view of the torque reading or really good enough clearance in general with the torque wrench. And when torquing bolts, you shoudl really be comfortable when doing it so you don't make any careless mistakes. I wouldn't remove the engine to take the tranny out, but to change a clutch, I def would. GSR2NR94 07-15-2005, 01:04 AM Make sure you break that ACT in really good first. You probably already knew, but just thought i would remind ya so you don't end up replacing the disc in 4 months. lol. sidewayzS13 07-15-2005, 01:10 AM u complain about your broke tail light and ill complain about my passenger door, rear quarter panel gas door, and tail light that all got fucked today when the guy im doing work for backed into me it fucking blows. but hes rich and it will get taken car of nissanfanatic 07-15-2005, 01:13 AM Yea, ACT clutch is not something you really wanna fuck up. Kinda expensive..lol Mbrannon 07-15-2005, 02:05 AM Well, the job is done and the car is home. And on the way home, I got rear ended. Nothing major, just some paint scratches around the license plate but it felt a lot worse than that. I got out of the car expecting a disaster and at first I couldn't even find the point of contact. I talked with the guy and he works at some law firm so I got his business card, home phone, cell phone and license plate number. He told me to drop off a copy of an estimate from the body shop at his office and he'd take care of it. Basically, I was stopped at a red light to get on the 101 and he was going through his wallet and thought nobody was there and ran into me at like 5mph. Never a dull moment. I guess I will take a picture to post tomorrow morning. Mbrannon 07-15-2005, 10:51 AM We torqued everything but we didn't really have any problems getting to them or anything like someone else mentioned. Even the one at 12 o'clock was pretty easily in reach. Mbrannon 07-15-2005, 01:46 PM I just got back from the body shop and the estimate comes out to $929.34. They said the previous owner had painted over the bumper to cover up a few scratches and they didn't want to put a third layer because it would just crack again with a slight bump or collision so they want to order a new bumper for it. I was just like whatever, either the guy or his insurance company is paying for it so do the best you can for my baby. He also tossed in the tail light assembly that has been bugging the shit out of me and blamed it on the collision. So, we kill two birds with one stone. nissanfanatic 07-15-2005, 05:29 PM dude you guys are taking this torqueing down the flywheel way to seriously... just put it on there tight! shit I put them all on by airgun, I've only torqued ONE before. Thats how we been doing it for 30 years, thats how everyone else does it. When you've done 10,000 clutch jobs you realize that doesn't make a shit of difference. This is how it works in the real world. you can tell me well if you don't torque it this will happen and such, but it doesn't LOL, they run perfectly, they last a long time, and they don't destroy parts. I know this guy at a dealer who rebuilds engines, never uses a torque wrench, always uses an impact gun.... in the world of professional mechanics speed is key, and if its 30 minutes faster to just tighten them down enough with your gun then torque shit down, its going to be tightened by the gun. Seriously every drivetrain mechanic RARELY, REAL RARELY, uses torque wrenches on clutches. your attitude of, "oh i gotta torque all this down exactly" just goes to show what you think you know, and what you haven't been doing. Thats why the FSM lists torque specs for them huh?http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon14.gif GSR2NR94 07-15-2005, 06:55 PM No shit SR20Power. Will you please drop the "I know it all and I have replaced 10,000 clutches so everything is wrong unless it is my way." Jeese man, you bring up posts like 2 pages ago just try and prove yourself. Kinda childish if you ask me. And please don't come up with some lame ass comment like "No one asked you though dumbass." Yes SR20Power, you are the master of clutches and everyone who does something a different way than you is WRONG. 240SXSlideStar 07-15-2005, 11:13 PM If you don't torque them at work to save time, that's fine, but if someone cares enough about their car to torque the bolts, then let them do it right. nissanfanatic 07-17-2005, 05:46 PM I dunno, im going to side with myself even from a nuetral stand point here. The people arguing about installing clutches, lets look at the sides. On one side you have someone who works on transmissions, and has been around the shop pretty much since I can remember as a little kid. On the other side you have some people who read a book, book smart people, who thinks just cause some asshole wrote some book about it that you have to do it that way or its going to be wrong. You probably got out some instruction manuals or some shit to install your last modification, if you even installed it yourself. What have you done one or two clutch jobs in your life if that? You can sit there and read your books and think your smart cause you just read how to do it, but in reality, actually installing dozens, is way better then any book you can read, book smart people don't get things done in the blue collar world of automobiles shit all these people who think they are so turbo smart and read all these books and can copy and paste mathematical formulas so they look smart couldn't whipe their ass without their mother helping. I bet they couldn't diagnose a misfire if a plug wire was chopped in half LOL. FYI, my car has never been to a shop because I don't want people like you working on it. I have personally done every bit of upgrading and matinence myself. And the asshole you refer to is Nissan. But I'm sure drivetrain shops know way more than them huh? They only built the cars... I do get my instruction manual out for installs. That is why I only have to install it once. And that first sentence separates smart people from dumbasses. If you don't read the instructions on something the first time you install it or if you haven't installed it before, you're a dumbass. Plain and simple. Yup, two clutch jobs. First one, I just tightened the pressure plate bolts as tight as I could. I broke it in for 300 miles of easy driving. Guess what? Chatter like a bitch. It was just a replacement from Advanced auto. Second one, I torqued the pressure plate bolts. Broke it in for maybe 50 miles.lol I had just installed my turbo too. It has never chattered. Agree to disagree please... ghostchild316 07-17-2005, 06:19 PM Whatever you do,dont use air tools on pressure plate bolts....:slap: I'm on the same boat as SR20DEPower.Hit those damn flywheel bolts with an Impact gun! vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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