I recently put in tein s-techs and I'll be honest: the ride is a little bumpy. Although it does handle turns a lot better. Will upgrading from my stock shocks fix the harsh ride? The spring rate in the front is like 210 and in back it's 140. I've heard you need a shock with a dampening rate that is stiffer than the spring rate of the springs or else you get the lousy ride.

i hear that kyb GR2 Struts + tein s-tech make a good combo. the kyb arent made for stiff springs but more for confort which is perfect for the stech which arent high performance springs

yes shocks will make the ride much better. the reason being now with the lower ride height, the stock shocks are compressed to less than their intended travel, making them bottom out more easily. Aftermarket sport shocks are shorter to begin with and have a higher rate making the ride firm, but still dampened. Im in a similar situation and plan on getting KYB AGX shocks.

K, I'm glad to hear the KYB G2s would make a good combo because they're the ones I'm considering. The stechs arent really that stiff compared to other springs.

KYB are stock length struts. They will function normally with a mild drop - 1.75"max. I use AGX's on my car with no complaints, adjustable is the way to go.

IMO GR2's aren't that great, Tokico HP is a better choice for 'cheaper' non-adjustables.

Ok, so now you guys have me thinking about changing my original plans to buy some OMNI Power complete coilover's for my GSR. Everybody tells me that they are a very good setup but the $700 or so that I would have to dish out is just kind of high. It would only cost about half that if I go with some Tein S-techs with some KYB struts. But do you guys think that would compare to the OMNI's? What would be the major difference's? Ride quality, overall quality, compatability, ect. Comment's, suggestion's? I do realize that if I get the Tein's spring's then they won't be adjustable.

The only advantage to a true coilover setup is that the struts & springs are engineered to work together unlike Tein & KYB for instance. The downside is non-adjustable struts with omni and in my opinion I'd rather have adjustable struts than adjustable ride height.

i agree. i wouldnt want to lose adjustable damping. As long as you can get the right amount of lowering, you wont really want to adjust the height anyway.

Ok that sound's pretty good guy's because that will save me over $300. So do you think that Tein S-Tech's with KYB strut's on a 95' GSR 2 door with 17' Konig's will be alright? I don't want it too bumpy but I want it to look and handle good. Oh and does anybody know if you can get the G2's for an Integra? I couldn't find them. I could only find other model's.

Try Tire Rack (www.tirerack.com)

Due to your 17" wheels and thin sidewall tires you will feel the bumps no matter what. A good suspension setup will help but will not get rid of it all together. Tire sidewalls absord a lot more than people realize. Instead of GR2's you will be much happier with KYB AGX or Tokico Illuminas and if you want to spend the extra money Koni yellows.

Instead of the Tein's my first pref. & rec. is H&R springs.

To give you an idea I have H&R sport springs with KYB AGX, and if i have it set on 4 or higher....its a hard ass ride. but it handles(duh) the tradeoff is handling or comfort. You should def. get something adjustable. my setup only cost $650 total. I installled it myself in a total of maybe 10-15hrs (i take a long time) i did front springs first one day, then rear the next. then a couple weeks later front shocks. then rear. not very hard.

I am thinking of getting Tein S-Tech springs and Tokico Illuminas in the next month or 2. How do the Tokico Illuminas compare to the KYB AGX? And I have heard that if you lower your car at all you need to buy a camber kit. Is this true?
Thanks

Illuminas a better than AGX's because they feature more adjustablity.

Camber kits are required when lowering more than 1.75" not so much a big deal with less than 1.75" of lowering. The only way to have you car in factory alignment specs after lowering is to install camber kits because there is no factory camber adjustment.

My civic is lowered approx. 1.5" and with 30K miles on the tires there is hardly any inner edge tire wear.

if you lower a car, the ride will almost always be bumpy. i have not heard of anyone that has a ride like a stock car when it is lowered. it's not that bad though, i got used to it and i think the looks and handling are a good tradeoff for the ride.

if u match ur springs and struts good u shouldnt have any bouncing. but u will have a harsher ride with siffer springs. toe is another big contributer to bad tire wear. the tokico illumina only have 1 more click for adjustment than the agx but the illumina can handle a stiffer spring then the agx

Incorrect toe will eat tires a lot faster than negative camber. When the toe isn't right it's basically dragging the whole tire's surface unlike the inner edge when there is too much negative camber. This is why an alignment needs to be done after lowering, both toe & camber changes. Like I said before if only lowering a small amount negative camber isn't a severe issue like it is with 1.75" or more, still toe needs to be corrected.