Window regulator clips have snapped...


atchisbr
07-05-2005, 07:36 PM
My wife's 2000 Alero driver side window started acting up this weekend. It appears that one of the clips (not sure if front or back) had snapped so when the window was going up/down it would tilt one direction or the other. I had a very similar issue on my 96 Vette that was easily fixed by replacing the broken window clip ($200 with labor).

I take the Alero in today and the estimate is $800! The mechanic removed the window from door and showed me the rear clip is snapped and said I need to have a new regulator, new rear clip, and probably a whole new window (even though this one is PERFECT). He claims that there isn't a way to remove a broken clip without destroying the glass so I should just buy a new one. Call me skeptical, but I thing I am getting played.

Has anyone had luck getting just the clip replaced? If so, how do I do that? Will a glass shop be able to assist? I see regulators online for $90 vs. the $150 at GMPARTSDIRECT.

HELP!
Atchisbr

cficare68
07-11-2005, 01:55 AM
You have to replacec the entire window regulator you can't just by another clip

atchisbr
07-11-2005, 09:29 AM
I found out you can purchase the window sash clip (attaches with epoxy to the actual window) from GM for $13. Once that is attached to the window, you then bolt the window to the regulator. Found a regulator on eBay for $70 with shipping so just waiting for that to show up.

Thanks to everyone that has replied!!

Bryan

**Can't wait to ditch the Alero**

mncan1987
07-16-2005, 08:19 AM
I'm curious how the window sash clips attached with epoxy is working as I need to find a solution to the broken clips...thanks

atchisbr
07-16-2005, 12:06 PM
Well not sure yet. I purchased the new sash clip from the GM dealership for $13, epoxy for $13 (from 3M at NAPA Auto Parts), and a new regulator unit off eBay for $66 with shipping. I am taking it today to get it installed (I tried but I dont have the patience). The guy at NAPA told me the epoxy is better than what GM used in the first place. I hope he is right.

tsquad26
08-06-2005, 03:53 PM
I found out you can purchase the window sash clip (attaches with epoxy to the actual window) from GM for $13. Once that is attached to the window, you then bolt the window to the regulator. Found a regulator on eBay for $70 with shipping so just waiting for that to show up.

Thanks to everyone that has replied!!

Bryan

**Can't wait to ditch the Alero**
Bryan, My name is Todd. My girlfriends car has the same problem and the dealer told me they have no part number to order just the clip.A new window they want almost $400.00. I would appreciate if you could email me or send a message back on this site with a part number or a phone number where to order them from.
Thanks Todd.

xmurkx
08-14-2005, 03:17 PM
I have this exact same issue with my girlfriends 2001 Alero. THe clips you're speaking of, are white plastic, correct? If so, I would also like to know where/how you got the clips because my g/f works at a GM dealer and they said there was no such thing.

Thanks!

autoperson
08-21-2005, 07:39 AM
I have the same problem. The GM part number for a window regulator clip is 12337848. Good luck

pacbreeze
11-02-2005, 11:37 PM
GM now has the white clips GM# 22697622 at a ripoff cost of $32.00!

sp3edr4cer
11-03-2005, 03:28 PM
i had that happen on my wifes car and i just went to the junk yard and got a whole new regulator and then i unbolted the window from the regulator and tracks and bolted to the new regulator and tracks cost me 2 hours (never done it before till then) and 20 bucks

PotIsYourFriend
11-03-2005, 08:34 PM
i had that happen on my wifes car and i just went to the junk yard and got a whole new regulator and then i unbolted the window from the regulator and tracks and bolted to the new regulator and tracks cost me 2 hours (never done it before till then) and 20 bucks




I'm sure there's enough in the JunkYard to get any part.. :frown:

alero99
11-03-2005, 10:19 PM
this happened to me too...
i gotta aftermarket regulator for 75 bucks and 2 clips for 20 bucks through the local junkyard, epoxied them to my window and theyve held up ever since and that was about 2 months ago. just make sure that you pile up the epoxy around the edges and leave ur window sit up over nite. If you do decide to get a new glass go to a local junkyard and usually you can get one for about 75 bucks. I had never done it before and it took maybe 2 hours tops

LifeIsPain
12-03-2005, 08:28 PM
I have a 2000 GLS Alero 4 door. I've already had the front two window motors replaced under warrenty. Now one of the rear windows is broken. The window won't stay up. When I engage the button you can hear the motor turning but nothing happens. It's like it fell off track or the clips are broken. Currently I have the window taped up. I'd like to fix it myself as now it's not under warrenty. I removed the two screws under the door handle, but I can't figure out how to get the panel off. I've tried pulling up from the bottom but it doesn't want to move.

Any advice on how to get the rear door panel off? Thanks much.

xmurkx
12-21-2005, 04:32 PM
I have a 2000 GLS Alero 4 door. I've already had the front two window motors replaced under warrenty. Now one of the rear windows is broken. The window won't stay up. When I engage the button you can hear the motor turning but nothing happens. It's like it fell off track or the clips are broken. Currently I have the window taped up. I'd like to fix it myself as now it's not under warrenty. I removed the two screws under the door handle, but I can't figure out how to get the panel off. I've tried pulling up from the bottom but it doesn't want to move.

Any advice on how to get the rear door panel off? Thanks much.

You may have to pull it quite a bit, but it will pop off. Door panels are usually just held on with plastic clips that are slid into a hole in the frame of the door.

As I stated, my girlfriend had a 2001 Alero and there were 3 screws that I had to take off before I could get the panel off, 1 was under the lower light lense in the door, it was red in color, this just pops off if you stick a tiny screwdriver along the sides. Don't pry too hard, you can crack the lense easily. The other 2 were under a small plastic panel just inside the handle of the door that you grab to close the door once you're inside it.

Once the screws were out, I had to pull pretty hard to get it off, but it did come off. Again, you can try a screwdriver or some other prying device you may have. Screwdriver's will scratch.

PotIsYourFriend
12-22-2005, 04:43 PM
Man my driverside window was up all the way and I go to the switch to make it go down and out of now where it just falls down... I took off the door panel and found these white things that were broken. I'm guess it's the clips... I also tried to take off the black clip thats on the window but it's on there pretty good..


Is this what I need?

window regulator clip is 12337848.

PotIsYourFriend
01-20-2006, 11:43 PM
Jesus, anyone out there?

brianod
02-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Can any of you tell me how you got the old clips off? The epoxy that is holding them on is as hard as a rock! Someone told me to try acetone but Im not having much luck. Any advice would be appreciated.

BNaylor
02-04-2006, 05:37 PM
Can any of you tell me how you got the old clips off? The epoxy that is holding them on is as hard as a rock! Someone told me to try acetone but Im not having much luck. Any advice would be appreciated.

Checkout this link it may have helpful info:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=514155

PotIsYourFriend
02-05-2006, 03:24 PM
Can any of you tell me how you got the old clips off? The epoxy that is holding them on is as hard as a rock! Someone told me to try acetone but Im not having much luck. Any advice would be appreciated.



All I can say is good luck getting them off... The epoxy is like CEMENT....

brianod
02-06-2006, 01:37 AM
I got part of one off today using a hair dryer and a flathead. I went and got some epoxy remover from lowes and Im gonna try that next. If that doesnt work Im gonna get a dremel or a heat gun. Im worried that the tempered glass wont hold up to the heat gun but what the hell the worst I can do is break the glass and have to buy another. The hair dryer almost did the job it just wasnt quite hot enough.

Pot if its the clips that are attached to your window that are broken you need new sash clips. The auto parts store o'reilly sells them for like 5 dollars a piece. At least I know they sell them for the grand am, but Im pretty sure the grand am and aleros internals are identical. Why pay gm 30 or 40 dollars for something that costs .50 cents to make? I'm not gonna give those con artists anymore of my money. Anyways thanks for the advice guys.

PotIsYourFriend
02-06-2006, 10:49 AM
I got part of one off today using a hair dryer and a flathead. I went and got some epoxy remover from lowes and Im gonna try that next. If that doesnt work Im gonna get a dremel or a heat gun. Im worried that the tempered glass wont hold up to the heat gun but what the hell the worst I can do is break the glass and have to buy another. The hair dryer almost did the job it just wasnt quite hot enough.

Pot if its the clips that are attached to your window that are broken you need new sash clips. The auto parts store o'reilly sells them for like 5 dollars a piece. At least I know they sell them for the grand am, but Im pretty sure the grand am and aleros internals are identical. Why pay gm 30 or 40 dollars for something that costs .50 cents to make? I'm not gonna give those con artists anymore of my money. Anyways thanks for the advice guys.



The clip glued to the window on mine had broken off where the screw screwed into.. And the Dealership charged me like 8.50 a piece,... Not that big of deal...

JohnGTP
02-07-2006, 03:21 PM
You can remove the old epoxy with a hammer and a stiff putty knife. Just tap the knife between the clilp and the glass and pry it up little by little. Just don't over do it.

I work for a company that makes automotive windows so I do this all the time.

brianod
02-16-2006, 02:35 PM
I appreciate the advice john. Ill try that next time instead of spending several hours cutting them off with a hacksaw lol. Since your in the glass business maybe you can tell me what to use for an adhesive for the new clips. A couple of guys on here said napa carries a 3M adhesive(does anyone know the part #) but I havent had any luck finding it at the local napa store. A glass shop told me to just use eurethane but they said half the time it works and half the time they fall off. So Im not really sure what to use and I dont want to do this over again as it was a major pain. Any advice would be helpful.
Thanks

JohnGTP
02-16-2006, 03:07 PM
You will need an epoxy definately. We use a Dow brand called "Betamate" #73015 structural adhesive and a Dow primer "Betaseal" #43518, but I seiously doubt you can purchase that anywhere.

Any type of epoxy should work as long as a glass primer is used prior to the adhesive being put on and it is put on a cleaned piece.

Also keep in mind that most epoxy requires a 24hr period to achieve full adhesion. I'm guessing that this is where most people mess this up and they put pressure on the new pieces which breaks the bond of the epoxy. Once that initial bond to the primer is broken chances are the piece will fail.

DenverBMR
03-21-2006, 10:15 PM
The part number has changed. its 22697623. $40 at the stealer. I think I paid close to $30 ea. at GMpartsdirect.com

lmpymilk
06-08-2006, 11:02 PM
I have a pack of 10 #12337848

Send me an offer

PotIsYourFriend
06-09-2006, 02:08 PM
I have a pack of 10 #12337848

Send me an offer


How about go away

mking76
06-27-2006, 11:37 AM
I was luck enough to find an auto glass guy that took off the clips and epoxed the new ones for less than $10. This was in addition to the second window regulator replacement in less than 18 months.

mrickert
09-15-2007, 08:08 AM
Nevermind - Got it

BNaylor
09-15-2007, 08:50 AM
Nevermind - Got it

:nono:

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