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CBFryman
07-04-2005, 11:09 AM
off spring from a thread in street racing, so loud stereo's or intune with your exaust...

let the thrashing begin

CassiesMan
07-04-2005, 01:25 PM
BOV, Nice Exhuast, etc.=1,000,000,000,000,000xIninifty+2 times greater than any subs. I honestly don't see any point in putting so much cash or time into a damn radio, unless you live in your car. Like, eat, sleep, drink, take school courses, get married, etc. in your car, then its all a waste of money. It doesn't do anything for your car either. I mean, if you have a POS Slow Ass Geo with an umpteen thousand dollar system...it still a slow ass POS Geo. I mean, if you at least put the money towards making it fast, its a Fast POS Geo. And my stock system in my car is just fine.

-The Stig-
07-04-2005, 02:57 PM
My Z didn't have a radio, I drove it for nearly 2 years that way.

CBFryman
07-04-2005, 06:11 PM
BOV, Nice Exhuast, etc.=1,000,000,000,000,000xIninifty+2 times greater than any subs. I honestly don't see any point in putting so much cash or time into a damn radio, unless you live in your car. Like, eat, sleep, drink, take school courses, get married, etc. in your car, then its all a waste of money. It doesn't do anything for your car either. I mean, if you have a POS Slow Ass Geo with an umpteen thousand dollar system...it still a slow ass POS Geo. I mean, if you at least put the money towards making it fast, its a Fast POS Geo. And my stock system in my car is just fine.

there is just something sexy about a LOT of movement from an awsome sub....
can your turbo BOV do this?
http://realmofexcursion.com/videos/Resonant%20Engineering/prototype12.1.wmv

how about this?

http://realmofexcursion.com/videos/AscendantAudio/avalanche15.4.wmv

CBFryman
07-04-2005, 06:21 PM
http://www.woofervids.com/displayimage.php?pos=-1578

forgot that...though that cost 8,000 and will probably never be used in car and in the vehicle it is just hte motor and not the cone.

nissanfanatic
07-04-2005, 08:48 PM
No, my "turbo BOV" can't do any of the above. But it can do this (sound clip) (http://www.935motorsports.com/media/mark7m001.mp3). Actually that is very very close to the exact same setup as me. Except its on a 7M-GTE with a T04E where as I'm KA24DE with a T04B. Same exact BOV sound tho. Scares all the kiddies.:p

clawhammer
07-04-2005, 09:52 PM
Spend money on engine>spend money on stereo

91300zxtt
07-04-2005, 10:05 PM
I hate noise, but love sound. Subs to me = noise, crisp clean sound comes from nice speakers. All i need is something to play my cd's and hear them well. No need for some 50 pound box that does nothing but rattle the trunk.

BullDog71ss
07-04-2005, 10:13 PM
Bass is great stuff, I'm going to toss my Fosgate 12 inch Punch 2's in the Cobalt soon. Tehy are in truck boxes and only wiegh about 8 pounds per unit.

Gotta have loud music. Plus i think Bov's are a little obnoxious.

nissanfanatic
07-04-2005, 10:32 PM
BOV is obnoxious. lol okay.....

Nothing necessary for going fast is obnoxious.

CassiesMan
07-04-2005, 10:59 PM
BOVs are obnoxious? A car wearing an SS badge that can barely break 14s is obnoxious.

chevytrucks92
07-04-2005, 11:32 PM
BOVs are obnoxious? A car wearing an SS badge that can barely break 14s is obnoxious.

So any 1960s SS Chevelle or Camaro is obnoxious????

As for radios, I'm not ever giving up my Sirius Satellite Radio, but I'm not going to be spending any more then the $149 a year it takes to renew it on a radio, lol.

CassiesMan
07-04-2005, 11:41 PM
Allow me to refrase...any modern car with a SC wearing an SS badge and can barely break 14s is obnoxious. Anyways, I still hold that a good exhaust note, nice lope for a motor, a free reving German I6, Just about any Prancing Horse or Raging Bull, or BOV is better than any subwoofer.

chevytrucks92
07-04-2005, 11:48 PM
Allow me to refrase...any modern car with a SC wearing an SS badge and can barely break 14s is obnoxious. Anyways, I still hold that a good exhaust note, nice lope for a motor, a free reving German I6, Just about any Prancing Horse or Raging Bull, or BOV is better than any subwoofer.

Lol. Ahh, I think they (Cobalts) will do OK.

And I'll take open headers, a .650 lift roller cam, and about 7000 RPMs from a small block chevy over 4 subwoofers, lol.

alphalanos
07-04-2005, 11:58 PM
even though i have a ghetto spl sub in my trunk, im going to say BOV

streetrcr45
07-05-2005, 02:31 AM
BOV's are sexy but i don't know if i'd give up my lil system that i've got.

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 02:53 AM
I like to have music and bass any and everywhere I go. I like how the new 2006 eclipse comes with a 650watt system and a 10inch sub in the trunk. If I can recall the 03+tiburon came with a 435watt system with a 10inch sub also Oh...when something becomes marketable, you better believe it will soon become standard in newer cars. i.e. music, satalite radio, cd players. I don't see loud exhausts and and loud BOV's making it into that catagory. There nothing wrong with wanting good bass in your car...................BUT I know a lot of people who don't like loud systems....but I ALSO know alot of people who don't like "illegal street racing" on the road either. So until then....I'm gonna keep doing what I do. So STFU.I mean, if you at least put the money towards making it fast, its a Fast POS Geo. And my stock system in my car is just fine.Since when did everybody have to care about going fast?
IF that was the case i'd buy a Gsx-r or hayabusa, mod it for a fraction of what a car would be, and BE FASTER..no scratch that....BE FASTER AND MORE ELUSIVE THAN EVERY CAR PERIOD!!!!!


Its funny how people throw around the word "stock". Let me help some of you dumbfounded people on why some people upgrade their stereos......... Last time I checked, a cars "STOCK ENGINE" works just fine. Right? There's no need to upgrade it right? I mean my cell phone works just fine without all the fancy color screens and ringtones right? There is no point for porn when there are TONS of willing women out there right? Yeah my computer came with 128mb's of ram...I didn't need to buy another ram stick right? A car tire is just a tire right? No need to put better stickier tires on there right? No need to get a satelite dish or cable when tire are plenty of free local stations right? No need to upgrade to a cable modem when a 56k works just fine right?.............:rolleyes:

-The Stig-
07-05-2005, 03:51 AM
No need to go on the internet and argue about stereos right?




;)

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 03:56 AM
No need to go on the internet and argue about stereos right?




;)you get the point ;)

CBFryman
07-05-2005, 07:39 AM
I hate noise, but love sound. Subs to me = noise, crisp clean sound comes from nice speakers. All i need is something to play my cd's and hear them well. No need for some 50 pound box that does nothing but rattle the trunk.

if you dont have a subwoofer you cant peoduce the entire sound spectrum :grinno:

no door speaker can produce a clean and acurate 30Hz the same as 300Hz. they just simply do NOT have the cone area.

CBFryman
07-05-2005, 07:45 AM
also a lot of you are misconceaving the point of a subwoofer. it is more than a speaker ment to pund electronicaly produced beats with the word N***** thrown in every breath.
Classical Music wouldnt be the same with out a sobwoofer to repsoduce the low frequincy harmonics of some of the instraments. Rock wouldnt be the same with out the sub for the bass guitar and kick drums, jazz wouldnt be the same with out the deep bass guitar and low piano notes, you get the point...
I like bass but i also like a subwoofer to do what it is sapposed to and not just pund the hell out of my truck...

CassiesMan
07-05-2005, 11:56 AM
Since when did everybody care about going fast? Since you entered the racing section of AF.com dumbass. So I doub't your gonna be well recieved with that argument. Now, I could go into why turbos and BOVs and what not aren't becoming standard, but thats going to become a flame war of its own.

tha_new_guy
07-05-2005, 12:14 PM
The most I'd ever go with sound would be to replace the stock speakers with aftermarkets, an amp, and one JL Audio 10" sub. Tasteful sound, not too much extra weight, and that one 10" is plenty for the small interior of most cars. The thing is, I like to hear my music, I dont care if I can't outbump the guy next to me with 4 15" subs and metal flake chameleon paint in his buick....:nono:

And I do agree, an upgraded sound system makes all music sound better, even classical, jazz, etc. No need to go over the top though.

GritMaster
07-05-2005, 02:50 PM
my system at home satisfies me plenty. a twin speaker, dual 6" subs in each cabinet, and 1.25" super tweeter.

I bet it sounds 10x or more better then any system you'll ever have in any of your cars. and it cost a whopping 600 dollars. I'm happy with 4 speakers in my car. no need for a sub with a pair of 6x9 kappas or something, great quality really produce enough bass and lows to satisfy me.


Oh and a nice loping big block, or a throaty little bimmer, or a high revving bike will satisfy my sound desires in a car. or an rb25 with a borla exhaust, and no cats. (Sounds sweet, go test it out) BOV's will nicely complement a good engine sound, but really I think a recirc BOV is the way to go, you can still hear it and it's not overly loud. You don't need it to intimidate someone when your car's got a nice loud grumble and is still trying to get traction as you accelerate well into 3rd :)

CassiesMan
07-05-2005, 03:01 PM
throaty little bimmer

Anyone who purchases the Rasp X midpipe for their ///M3 should be taken out into the street, and shot several times. The rasp is the best damned part.

CassiesMan
07-05-2005, 03:38 PM
I have no argument? Im not the one in the racing section arguing that people dont like racing. If you wanna talk about how amazing your uber sound system of d00m is, go to the section about sound and shit, not here.

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 03:53 PM
CassiesMan you have no arguement because Like I said I know people you don't like street racing and I know people who don't like loud music.
My point was if you think the we are distrubing the peace by music...then you have a problem. You telling me to turn my music down shouldn't even be in the same catagory of me telling you to slow down. Last time I checked *looks around* playing music didn't endanger live of other innocent drivers on the road like you subjecting me to your exhaust that vibrates a house and speeding that is almost unnecessary just because you want to "tune your ride". Besides the REAL reason for buying a car in the first place is to get from point A to B. Funny how you mention Racing on AUTOMOTIVE FORUMS. Oh or is it racingforums.com? *laughs and thinks to self* showing off music....so what are some of them doing?.....showing off HP?..:rolleyes:

if you really want to get technical, you don't need a lot of sound. NOR do you need to have a lot of HP.

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 03:57 PM
OOHHhhh and one more thing my point was for everything I do that you see no point in, somebody else does the same to you. For w/e it may be. So you are no better than anybody else at the vices you do. That was the arguement.

CassiesMan
07-05-2005, 04:04 PM
you subjecting me to your exhaust that vibrates a house

I wont subject you to a loud exhaust if you turn down your crap stereo. And yes, we are on Automotiveforums.com, in the racing section. Where people talk about racing. Not about how loud they're speakers are. There is a section for that somewhere else.

Oh, and if an exhaust vibrates your house...you might want to take all the money you invested in your system...and reinvest it into a better house. In my little subdevision, we have a viper and an SL65 AMG, a Harley, coupla pickups with pipes, and every few weekends, a Ferrari or two. Whenever they decide to play rev it up, my house doesn't shake or vibrate.

Oh, and HP/TQ>Sound.

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 04:26 PM
^ that statement went nowhere
I've made all the points I gonna make for now cause you don't do anything but reitrate what my points are. Oh the reason I am here is because this thread is in the NON specific forum. :rolleyes:
besides I'm not the one who miss quoted what I typed above...........

Since when did everybody have to care about going fast?

Since when did everybody care about going fast?

just making sure that the dumbass statement was used correctly.

91300zxtt
07-05-2005, 04:27 PM
Why don't the both of you quit bitching. HP/TQ is only better than sound when you actually need it. What would you rather live without, sound or speed.

CassiesMan
07-05-2005, 05:33 PM
Sound, becasue sound cant make my car move. Nor can it get me to work, nor can it do what I need it to do at work.

Yes, you are in the non specific section. Regarding all non specific things that have to do with, for the last fucking time, Racing. If you want to talk about your system, go here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=675

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 05:45 PM
Sound, becasue sound cant make my car move. Nor can it get me to work, nor can it do what I need it to do at work.

Yes, you are in the non specific section. Regarding all non specific things that have to do with, for the last fucking time, Racing. If you want to talk about your system, go here: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=675

:loser: what are you going to do if you have to tell me again?
For the statement above also
Last time I checked, a cars "STOCK ENGINE" works just fine. Right? There's no need to upgrade it right? If it can get you there without the modding, why mod it?
Exactly. Nobody ask you to drive to work. You could walk..or ride a bike...ride the bus ...or even fly. You CHOOSE TO like EVERYBODY ELSE CHOOSES TO DO WHAT THEY DO.

tha_new_guy
07-05-2005, 06:18 PM
You two stop bitching and take it to the PM's if you have to!

:slap:

I think Cassiesman's point is, a great stereo system is best suited for a house, where you don't have space requirements. If you want to go fast, you mod your car. So why compromise great sound in your car when you can have great sound in your house? Call me a purist, but I believe in using the right tool for the right job. Your car isn't the best place for a great system. Period.

Drewh4386, take it easy.

drewh4386
07-05-2005, 06:40 PM
Im not the one who asked the question to us "so called" racers in the racing forums. Im not the one who went off disrespecting people for what they do. (not that i even care if he did or not) I don't live in my car or any of the shit he said above. I have a 14b turbo ready to be put on my car when I fell like it. So I know what wanting hp is like. BUt my high flow exhasut is quiet. I like to have hp and sound but you don't see me going around telling hp buffs to fuck their motors cause they love them so much. Nor do you see me talking about fucking somebodies motor up. Before anybody judge anybody else, they should look at themselves and think about what people may think of what they do......nobody is invincible. Still not good enough. Anyway this is my last post in this thread.... Why not have it in your car? Why have sound at a club when you can take the party to your house for free........or a parking lot? Why have a navigation system if there are plenty of maps in stores? Whatever you choose to do is fine with me. Just as long as you do go talking about what we do. Until then.........;)

BullDog71ss
07-05-2005, 06:42 PM
Yes. To myself, BOV's are obnoxious. I can't stand listening to kids in 1.8t VW's and various other turboed cars rev there shit at stop lights to make that stupid whooshing sound from an extra loud BOV. I'd much rather hear some Zep or Doors blasting from a nice system...namely, my own.

And as far as pathetic SS cars go...so what about it only breaking into the 14's in stock form. I couldnt give a shit. It's my daily driver that I can have a little fun with. Hell, my SS 71 Camaro bearly broke 14's in stock form. But that's all been fixed, as will the current speed of my Cobalt.

I said nothing to any of you to recieve the couple of comments that I did infact get. I mearly stated my opinion of stereos vs performance sounds of a vehicle. So to those of you who insist on putting down other vehicles for no reason what so ever.....FUCK YOU!

CBFryman
07-05-2005, 08:01 PM
there is no such thing in going over the top with anything.

I agree, turbos are fun, and the sound says stay the *** away...

however JL is teh suck ;) there are lighter subs that get louder and sound crisper than JL's low end.

and when i say lighter i mean they dont require as large of an enclosure. the enclsorue for my 18, however, weights over 70lbs and it isnt even completely constructed (still needs bracing and the baffle) and my 18 alone weighs 50lbs... lol. but i drive a truck. it isnt like you are even going to fir an 18 in most trunks, not because of space requirements but because a driver that moves 2" P2P cant be mounted close to the trunk lid. and most trunks are tall enough to mount it vertically.

along with that. a good, LOUD system can be lighter than 100lbs...and 100lbs is only 0.1 off of your 1/4mile ET on average...a bad shift can cause a lot more than that ;) and so canhaving a car full of stuff...

nissanfanatic
07-05-2005, 09:28 PM
you know what?

CBFryman, you are a cool person. I have respect for anyone that takes the time to learn their craft. May it be making shoelaces or travelling in space. AS long as you take it seriously and learn it inside and out, you're cool by me.

So +1 for you.:thumbsup:

-The Stig-
07-05-2005, 10:01 PM
Everybody take a chill pill... Please.

This shit is getting a bit outta hand, take it to PMs if you must. Thanks.

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