In case some of you want to catch it on TV, The Mike Jackson Verdict is soon to be announced At 4:45 Eastern, 3:45 Central time. On CNN.

Could we be witnessing history?

He's probably going to be found guilty of one of the lesser charges, and go to jail for like a year probably.

So you think he will get some sort of Jail Time for atleast "Something"? Good Point.
Are you watching this on CNN right now? What are they showing? Is it the SUV that is bringing Jackson to the Trial? LOL, it reminds me of the Police chasing down OJ Simpson.

There were no Black Jurors? What kind of shit is that!

not guilty good for him

Not Guily on ALL 10 Counts!

Micheal Jackson was found not guilty on each and every acount. I could hardly beleive it, I thought he might be able to get out of a few but each and every one of them? Im surprised. I always thought he was guilty, but I guess he's not. Even though he's "innocent" I really dont think anyone will look at him the same. Everyone will always remember this case.

What do you guys think about all this?

Further proof that the world is going to hell.

Damn, I just made a thread on this but I guess I was like a minute too late.

Another criminal gets off again...

There were no black defendents.

Welp, God damnit. He got off the hook. Guess I'll just have to wait another few years for his next molestation trial.

Did he just moon walk out of the court room????

werd

Did he just moon walk out of the court room????
Ah, that fuckin funny. He looked so scared and shocked that he got off. He show no type of emotion.

Yeah he looked shocked cuz even he knew he was screwed.

How many times is he going to get away with this garbage, he should have been a priest at this rate...

he probably paid off the jurors. he truly is "invincible". One of his other court cases he paid it off, for an out of court settlement. Really makes you wonder

Do we really need 2 threads on this? :loser:

Hey I posted mine b4 i realized that another one was already made.

What a surprise! Another celeb gets away with a crime again. I hope those jurors have fun in hell.

i merged the 2 threads :cwm27:

Monkey boy, Monkey boy, sheesh. It figured, oh by the way, he's 20-30M in debt now, HHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM, of course that has absolutely nothing to do with 1991.

I shoulda gone to his ranch, he'd have made me rich. Two strikes now, the third will get him good. I have to come out and tell MY story, LMAO.

^^ Cool you did.. NICE your modship :worshippy


Ahhh who really knows guys but he was good in 84 when I saw him in concert.

Thats the judicial system, its funny how everyone 2nd guesses it when people dont hear a verdict they were hoping for. None of you, as well as myself know whether or not he did it (even though i didnt think he did b/c he adores kids), and neither did the jury. Out of 500 pieces of evidence the jury didnt see anything beyond a reasonable doubt, "out of 500 pieces." In the famous words of Johnny Cocharan "if the gloves doesnt fit, you must aquit." The jury is a very diverse percentage of the population, so even if there was a different selection of the jury-in most cases the outcome would be the same. And being that these were white jurors, it cant possibly be hypocrisy, if the jury were all blks then yes it would. The same as the OJ case, the jury were all whites and OJ at his peak of stardome was nowhere close to being as big of a star as MJ. And he was aquited. Let the man live, its over life goes on. This isnt the first case .

And Publicenemy137, that was the most ignorant comment I have ever seen. An out of court settlement only happens in a civil case "a lawsuit" not a criminal case. SO there is not jury. A jury selection is for a criminal case. So next time get your brain to think just a little before spitting out something so absurd.

LOL, OK, so a criminal aquittal leads to a civil conviction. Or a "payoff". Time for you to think about it.

Actually you need to think, that still has nothing to do with a criminal case, thats why its called civil-different circuit of court. So he cant possibly pay off jurors. the Family took him to civil court to try and get money out of him b/c once again, the prosecution didnt have a leg to stand on. Sore losers. so you think about it.

First O.J. now Jackson...wait, is Jackson still black or what? If he's not then scratch that remark.

I knew it.









That bastard.

Funny how everyone who watches the news knows exactly what he did or didn't do, more so than those shown all evidence.

:rolleyes:

It's the way our court system is set up. Guilty without a reasonable doubt. Of cours if you have millions of dollars, you'll pay someone who will who that. I guess people would rather let 10 innocent free, than to lock up 1 guilty.

Im takin that most of you dont have any experience working with the judicial system, it works to protect the criminals-not the innocent. And being that First of all "Innocent" that for yall haters, also he's rich, blk and a public figure, the only thing a white jury would love to do is find him guilty, but evidence wins cases, not what people think. Remeber that

Ha. the focus should be on the President and V-pres. who yall fools revoted back into office. Well, their known as lameducks on capitol hill now, and is doing alot worst than they did their first term. I guess they're most def goin down in history as two of the worst Presidents.

i would've thought that in a high profile case, the last thing a jury wants, is to be labelled racist.

doesnt matter, if he's guilty-he's guilty

His "career" is pretty much fucked anyway.

Where is OJ these days? He is going to end up like OJ.

I think it is a complete joke that he got off. He even admitted in an interview that he slept with minors. How much more evidence do they need?

Can they bring a civil suit against him?

thats shit he ws innocent on to different counts WTF

its fuckin bullshit. He was acquitted on all counts. He was not found "NOT GUILTY".

They just couldn't prove without any possible reasonable doubt that their stupid minds could come up with, that he was guilty.

That's all it means. And that's the main thing the defense wanted the jury to know. I think its a fuckin load of shit. And who was his main witness? McCully Culkin. Why? Because they grew up the same way and are close friends because neither had a real childhood. "Michael never molested ME." he says. That's probably because they're both weirdos. I bet they both molested kids together.

You nay sayers think that just because he likes kids means he would "never molest them". Bullshit. Molestors are weirdos. Michael Jackson is a weirdo who likes to have groups of little boys sleep in his bed, and give them alcohol. BUT NOOOOO, that doesnt mean he molests them! Not MICHAEL, hes famous! No way would he do that.

I don't see Michael Jordan getting accused for molesting kids even though he's rich. He has basketball camps and is around children a lot too. I don't see him getting accused of molestation every couple years. I'm so sick of jackson getting away with this shit.

In a news article off CNN.com I read that one of the jurors walked by him during the trial and said "I like your work." They should have booted that bitch out the door right then. It takes all 12 jurors to convict. You get one Michael fan and that ruins the possibility. GOD D*&^%% F&(*&&()(#@*$&#%(*@&$..... this should be in stress release, cuz im F*%#$N pissed. BULL $#17!!!!!!!!

its fuckin bullshit. He was acquitted on all counts. He was not found "NOT GUILTY".

They just couldn't prove without any possible reasonable doubt that their stupid minds could come up with, that he was guilty.

Bullshit. On all of the charges, the jury decides is he's GUILTY or NOT GUILTY. He was found NOT GUILTY on all of the 10 charges, it's as simple as that.

I'm sure most of those jurors have children or grandchildren. I wonder what they'd say if Michael asked them to spend the night.

And yeah Rick, it is total bullshit.

Bullshit. On all of the charges, the jury decides is he's GUILTY or NOT GUILTY. He was found NOT GUILTY on all of the 10 charges, it's as simple as that.
well then thats even more bullshit. but I dont believe you.


even nicole8188 says its bullshit so HA!

I'm sure most of those jurors have children or grandchildren. I wonder what they'd say if Michael asked them to spend the night.

There are three of four people in the world, that I would let my daughter spend the night with. You are not one of them. Does that make you guilty of child molestation?
My point is that what you just said doesn't actually mean anything.

well then thats even more bullshit. but I dont believe you.


even nicole8188 says its bullshit so HA!

So you don't believe he was found "not guilty"? No wonder you people voted Bush for a second term...

I'm just going to say this. MJ just creeps me the fuck out. and i also hate everyone of his songs. He might have been guilty or not. I think he was, but I'm not a juror.

I believe that he needs serious psychiatric help.

I believe that he needs serious psychiatric help.

On that, I couldn't agree more.

Her point was not that you let your kids sleep with anyone as long as they arent going to molest them.

Her point was that if Michael Jackson asked them to let their kids spend the night at neverland ranch (totally homosexual creepy child molestors name for a mansion btw) they would more than likely say no because of the FEAR, that their kids just MIGHT get molested by him.

She wasn't saying it's because they don't know him well enough.



of course though I do realize that we can't prove they would say no because of that, but I'd put my money on it. You're damn right I would. And I think any parent who ever lets their kid sleep with MJ should be charged with negligence for leaving their child with an accused child molestor.


and on a whole other note, I think the whole idea of them getting money from him is bullshit. Other kids get molested all the time, but they don't get payed for it. Getting molested is not a service which requires payment. It's a crime which requires justice, and they should have been told that under no circumstances would they be getting paid off by Michael, BEFORE they even started the trial.

I still think the fucker is a disturbed child molestor.

don't bring up "YOU GUYS VOTED FOR BUSH" thats an off the wall argument, which holds just as much weight as me saying... "You guys think Michael Jackson was innocent? No wonder you dumbasses voted for Kerry"

lets just keep this on topic.

Her point was not that you let your kids sleep with anyone as long as they arent going to molest them.

Her point was that if Michael Jackson asked them to let their kids spend the night at neverland ranch (totally homosexual creepy child molestors name for a mansion btw) they would more than likely say no because of the FEAR, that their kids just MIGHT get molested by him.

She wasn't saying it's because they don't know him well enough.

of course though I do realize that we can't prove they would say no because of that, but I'd put my money on it.

And you are probably right. But how many people would have that fear just because MJ was charged? Even if they thought he is innocent, but because there is that slight chance of them being wrong?

funny how that "Slight chance" is also what let him get off free. (no pun intended. actually, yeah I did intend it)

don't bring up "YOU GUYS VOTED FOR BUSH" thats an off the wall argument, which holds just as much weight as me saying... "You guys think Michael Jackson was innocent? No wonder you dumbasses voted for Kerry"

lets just keep this on topic.

Ok, back on topic, sorry.

But on you not believing he was found 'not guilty'...

Quote from CNN: Jackson looked straight ahead and showed little reaction as he listened to the court clerk go through the not guilty verdicts on all 10 counts.

I think 'not guilty verdicts' mean 'not guilty'. :rolleyes:

I think a lot of his problems stem off of how he was treated as a child and Americans big problem with self image. My personal opinion.

I think a lot of his problems stem off of how he was treated as a child and Americans big problem with self image. My personal opinion.

I agree. He is basically just a 46-year old child himself. And in my opinion, that pretty much explains why he wants to spend time with young boys. In his mind he still is a young boy.

funny how that "Slight chance" is also what let him get off free. (no pun intended. actually, yeah I did intend it)
That's why we have justice system. You can't find someone guilty if it can't be proven.

Edit: Not "slight chance", but "reasonable doubt".

Why are most of you still saying he did it?

Why are most of you still saying he did it?

Guilty until proven otherwise. Seems to apply when defendant has too much money, or is too famous.

Rick how would you know he's guilty? What you saw him do it or something? Its not bullshit, MJ is just a weirdo, should every weirdo in the world be convicted of child molestation?

He was proven NOT GUILTY, that means NOT GUILTY.... whats wrong with you people saying he's still guilty, like you saw him do it to your little brother or something. What you know something the prosecutors or the jury didnt?

Prove to me that he's guilty, instead of just hating on him cause he's fucked up






And how do i know that he's not guilty?

[Looks up all serious]

HE MADE THRILLER

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lol j/k :icon16:

Well the Jury was presented evidence, but very crappy evidence. The mother of the accuser was not put together, she looked trashy, and would constantly snap her fingers at the jury.
The jury wanted to vote guilty, but they had to decide ONLY on what they were presented.
~~A juror said this in a interview not me.

Hey, if it were up to me, I'd have taken that fruit out back and shot him. But just because he's wierd and absolutely out of touch with reality doesn't make him a child molester. (I'm just saying, you can't say he sexually abuses children because he's pasty and deuschbaggity) He's wierd, he's a fruitcake, he's had some very serious (albiet probably true) accusations brought against him several times, but was aquitted.
It's not what you know; it's what you can PROVE
Here's the problem: One of my best friends was accused of threatening to rape/kill this girl. She went to the police with this off the wall accusation and my friend was detained for a brief time. Him and her never spoke too much, and he didn't even know her phone number. They later found out she'd brought these accusations against several people in recent years and even her friends' testified against her. He was aquitted rather quickly. A few people thought he did it. Why? Nearly verbatim: "Because he's wierd and he wears that black trenchcoat and stuff." At the time, he liked dressing in black, and he wore a long black trenchcoat on occasion, And that's their reasoning for assuming he was guilty. (it sounds bad, and not the kind of person I'd be friends with, but he outgrew that phase and i swear he's more normal than he sounds!) Now he was obviously not guilty, there was NO evidence whatsoever that he was going to go to her house with a shotgun and rape her, and she had said very similar to the same thing 4 times prior. She also had emotional problems, which is where this stuff spawned from. Now when my friend walked out of the courthouse not guilty, he didn't want people to still think he had done it. Not guilty is, and continues to be not guilty. So no matter who thinks he did it, or who can say anything or think anything, he is still not guilty. It could be for lack of evidence, lack of witnesses, lack of credibility, etc.
They had to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that someone had done it, otherwise they, in technical terms, did not. As far as the courts are concerned. Don't be quick to judge based on who he is and how strange he is. A jury deliberated for days on this.
I think he did it. I think he's completely lost touch with reality and I think he's a washed up, over the hill outdated pop-culture icon that needs to go away somewhere, keep his hands to himself, and for the love of God, learn what we do in the real world. But nonetheless, they found him not guilty, and it'll probably only be a matter of time before he gets in trouble over it again. Just don't ignorantly judge based on slanted media reports.

well i dont know, im not in a position really to say for 100% that he did or didnt do it. I dont know all the facts about him, but heres what i think/know.

-Hes 46 years old
-He was black and a child is now white, claims he never had surgery and that he just grew out of his blackness. . .
-He doesnt take very good care of his children, dangles one of them off a balcony and hides the other one is a closet.
-He is a private ranch that he put together so he can play with children. A 46 year old man wanting to play with children seems really weird to me.
-He gives the children alcohol
-He sleeps with children in the same bed who more than likely have had alcohol before that.
-I dont think hes ever had a "normal" healthy relationship with a woman.

all in all, hes a weird fruit cake. If i had any kids, they for sure as HELL would not be sleeping in his bed or even knowing who he is.

"NOT GUILTY" does not mean "INNOCENT"

It means that he was not proven guilty. He may be a child molester, but no one proved it in a court of law. Someone did not do a good enough job of convincing 12 people that he did it.

If I am speeding and do not get caught, am I innocent? NO, I broke a law, so I am not "innocent" of breaking the law. I am "not guilty" if no one can prove I was speeding. On the other hand, if a cop proves that I was speeding, then I am found "guilty".

It's all in the terminology !!!!

I personally think he did it and will continue to do it in the future until he gets caught AND proven guilty.

Hey, if it were up to me, I'd have taken that fruit out back and shot him. But just because he's wierd and absolutely out of touch with reality doesn't make him a child molester. (I'm just saying, you can't say he sexually abuses children because he's pasty and deuschbaggity) He's wierd, he's a fruitcake, he's had some very serious (albiet probably true) accusations brought against him several times, but was aquitted.

I thought you would be happy, its now safe to go back to neverland.... :p


Although now that he got off, he still has the 450 million (I think) debt.

OJ got off. Now MJ gets off. Just when I thought the rich obviously guilty celeb. story has faded . up come a new one. Only difference was Johhny Chocrane wasn't involved.

No genius of any sort acts what we call normal. The creative element comes from somewhere, and that place is called "uniqueness" which isnt normal.

Spaminator,
I dont know one person that doesnt like atleast one Michael Jackson song if not many of them. Your simply being a hater which obviously gets you no where. MJ's rich and Millions upon Millions of people love him. We see why you have no dough, people dont love you, and you prolly cant even get a girl. (excuse me-i have to sneeze, "HATER!!!") Stop sippin' on that "hate juice." you know you love some MJ, you just wanted to see another big public figure go down, no matter if he was innocent or not. I guess Martha Stewart wasnt enough for ya, huh PAL

RIckwithaTbird,
Tell me one thing Bush is doing well at, he's actually doing worse. His Social Security Agenda is going no where. The Borders are broken and everything from criminals,to drugs are making their way into the country. Oh wait, the military, not Bush brought down Sadam, but what threat was he. They're not going to find OBL, its not like thats Bush's first concern anyways. The war on terror is in a worse state than it was before. He doesnt have as much support from his own party. And oh yeah, he flopped in the debates. I know you saw that-HAHAHA. Condoleezza Rice is an idiot. Dick Cheney is worse than her, and Bush is just on his own plateau of stupidity. And we shouldnt have voted for Kerry? If your name means that you own a T-Bird (WACK ASS CAR, excuse me i sneezed again- i must be coming down with a cold), and you could afford the V-8 i know that your pockets are hurting b/c of gas. Swallow your pride and admit W. Bush's soon to be 2 horrible terms, makes his father look like a decent president. Moron.

No genius of any sort acts what we call normal. The creative element comes from somewhere, and that place is called "uniqueness" which isnt normal.

Spaminator,
I dont know one person that doesnt like atleast one Michael Jackson song if not many of them. Your simply being a hater which obviously gets you no where. MJ's rich and Millions upon Millions of people love him. We see why you have no dough, people dont love you, and you prolly cant even get a girl. (excuse me-i have to sneeze, "HATER!!!") Stop sippin' on that "hate juice." you know you love some MJ, you just wanted to see another big public figure go down, no matter if he was innocent or not. I guess Martha Stewart wasnt enough for ya, huh PAL

RIckwithaTbird,
Tell me one thing Bush is doing well at, he's actually doing worse. His Social Security Agenda is going no where. The Borders are broken and everything from criminals,to drugs are making their way into the country. Oh wait, the military, not Bush brought down Sadam, but what threat was he. They're not going to find OBL, its not like thats Bush's first concern anyways. The war on terror is in a worse state than it was before. He doesnt have as much support from his own party. And oh yeah, he flopped in the debates. I know you saw that-HAHAHA. Condoleezza Rice is an idiot. Dick Cheney is worse than her, and Bush is just on his own plateau of stupidity. And we shouldnt have voted for Kerry? If your name means that you own a T-Bird (WACK ASS CAR, excuse me i sneezed again- i must be coming down with a cold), and you could afford the V-8 i know that your pockets are hurting b/c of gas. Swallow your pride and admit W. Bush's soon to be 2 horrible terms, makes his father look like a decent president. Moron.


Watch it...this is a no flame zone :nono:

This will only get worse. Closed.