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03 V6 vs. 98 V6 Camaro


MPe488
06-08-2005, 09:44 PM
the age old question: Camaro vs. Mustang? which would win in a straight away, and if the mustang loses how much work would it take to beat the Camaro?

Simioh
06-08-2005, 09:57 PM
i dont think anyone is gonna be interested in this thread....

Muscletang
06-09-2005, 05:03 PM
i dont think anyone is gonna be interested in this thread....

:1:

Get in your car and race the thing is all I can say about it.

Simioh
06-09-2005, 05:25 PM
great short answer musclestang :D

MPE, no one here can answer that question cuz u didnt say if they were modifid, if so, what each car has, whos drivin each car, and a lot of other variables. i think that in the thread that says "Read this before posting" it says somethin bout not makin threads that compare cars anyways...

victimizati0n
06-13-2005, 11:12 AM
from what i have heard, the camaro can beat the mustang STOCK just about every year (like from 69-2001)

lostmypicks
06-21-2005, 06:16 PM
I thinkl that the camaro would kick butt
Chevy!!!

Muscletang
06-21-2005, 06:30 PM
from what i have heard, the camaro can beat the mustang STOCK just about every year (like from 69-2001)

Yeah, in BASE models. Just wanted to know we're clear here.

TheStang00
06-21-2005, 06:38 PM
just race, its pretty even, depends on the tranny to, auto vs manual.

94GPSHAKER
06-28-2005, 12:13 AM
http://www.internetautoguide.com/reviews/45-int/sports-cars/chevrolet/camaro/1998/
i do prefer camaro's though.

Ace$nyper
06-28-2005, 05:47 PM
bench racing is worse then those damn civic drivers... wait a minute.............

Demonhunter
07-10-2005, 12:46 AM
just an FYI---- in the 80s up till the LT1s the mustang had the camaros beat....

94GPSHAKER
07-10-2005, 01:40 PM
That is such garbage, the H.O 350 tbi and tpi smoked the H.O. 5.0 302, and you couldnt even compare the 6 cyl camaro of those years to the 6 or 4 cyl mustangs{such a joke}

Muscletang
07-10-2005, 02:36 PM
That is such garbage, the H.O 350 tbi and tpi smoked the H.O. 5.0 302

Sorry to break it to you but the 5.0 has been said to keep up and beat the 350s. It has even been claimed in a few magazines.

Also, from the web sit you posted, the Camaro wasn't the best bang for the buck. If that were so it'd still be around today. By '98 or '99 V6 Mustang sales were more than total Camaro and Firebird sales combined.

So, V8 to V8, or V6 to V6, the Camaro (and the equivalent Firebird), simply runs away from the Mustang.

In V6 and GT form yes but the Cobra would keep up with a Camaro and once it got its revs up a bit could beat it.

The Camaro was the better performer but you had to get that performance at a price. That was a main reason why it couldn't stay in the market.

94GPSHAKER
07-10-2005, 03:10 PM
every year that camaros were in market the base model, and the highest equipped model beat the stangs equivalent,stock, proven.
i am not biast against mustangs either my grandfather still races for ford and retired as an engineer for ford SVT transmissions.
his stang(1965) is smoking just about everything in his bracket running low 7's with an SVT ford motor pullun about 900 hp's. so i know the capabilities of ford is awesome, but then again his olds funny car has about 2500 hp and shot a quarter mile in 5.137 at 289.67 mph alcohol run.

Demonhunter
07-10-2005, 05:03 PM
dude your fooling yourself.....where are you getting this crap??
the 5.0 Ho whipped the tpi crap....its a fact....

The only one that could run woulda been an L98 IROC and there wasnt many on the road. and they were heavier. i think i remember reading in an ol car and driver or somthing they did a test in the early 90 comparng a camaro vs the mustang and the stang won the shoot out. Too bad i cant remember what the camaro had.

Demonhunter
07-10-2005, 05:28 PM
Here is the comparing of like cars....both 5.0s in the camaro and stang. http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/articles/gt.shtml

Now dont bitch and say well try that with the 350 blaa blaa because the 93 cobra would eat your 350 stock for stock. They compared the regular v-8 cars. Not higher end models.

http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/articles/shootout.shtml
They cost exactly the same here. As tested by Motor trend ( i think this is the one i saw.)

94GPSHAKER
07-10-2005, 10:01 PM
One of my best friends just bought an 84 Iroc with the 305 carbeurated
60,000 original miles, trans was blown, he put a rebuilt one in, and he got a new paint job, suspension. that is all he did to it, i have been in the car with him when he beat about 5 stangs on gratiot ave. as most people know the tpI is rated to have more power than the previous years and i know a few people that do and they just about all smoked the 302 5.0 ho stang. i myself have a 94 LT1 z28 that will smoke the newer supercharged stangs (stock or slightly modded) and i wont even waste my time on the 5.0's unless the car is shaking from high ass cam lift.

94GPSHAKER
07-10-2005, 10:02 PM
i would Sh*t on a 93 cobra with My Lt1

Demonhunter
07-10-2005, 10:16 PM
i would Sh*t on a 93 cobra with My Lt1
lol unless your really moded your smoking CRACK son. i whipped a pontiac forumla firebird 3 times in a row in my near stock 92 5.0..dont go rattling your mouth when everyone knows it BS.
If you knew anything you wouldnt have said that stupid sh*t you just said. Im serioulsy baffled at the ignorance of what you had said about 5.0s....they have a MUCH bigger aftermarket becasue the mod much easier and run faster than the mediocre LT1....ls1 you can talk smack....lt1s come back when you get a transplant

Demonhunter
07-10-2005, 10:35 PM
and what are you doing in here anyways?? I know it says camaro in the title but htis is the mustang forum....i could care less if there was a ford vs chevy post in your forums.

94GPSHAKER
07-11-2005, 04:53 PM
wow, you think you know everything dont you your getting all worked up for nothing , everyone knows that 5.0's are easy as hell to mod and are a lot cheaper too. as for what you said

"Now dont bitch and say well try that with the 350 blaa blaa because the 93 cobra would eat your 350 stock for stock. They compared the regular v-8 cars. Not higher end models.

stock for stock.. get out of here man, with a t56 borg warner factory LT1 (wich is stock) 93 camaro
against a stock 93 stick cobra, the LT1 wins no problem all the way to 150... oh whats that your 5.0 didnt go higher than 130, maybee you shoud be doing the transplanting. when i first bought my car (with 90,000 miles, stock.) one of the first cars i beat was a pre-98 cobra, so maybee it was the driver of the cobra, or its physical condition, and by the way i believe the firebird formulas pre-98 are only running the 3.4 litre v-6 anyway.so i hope you beat him more than 3 times the firebird firehawks and the trans am ws6's along with the z28 and SS smoke the 5.0's.

a stock camaro ss with LS1 runs the quarter mile in under 12.8 sec, the LT1's are just about a second less.

the only reason i came here was my friend was thinking about getting a 6 banger of either stang or camaro, but im done in here i'll leave you ford fellas alone.
as long as your racing to win thats all that matters anyway.

BlackGT2000
07-11-2005, 05:06 PM
Whoa under 12.8 stock? What planet is that on?

Simioh
07-11-2005, 05:08 PM
hummm... ive been to the track and seen a fair amount of camaros SS i dont belive any of them were stock cuz they were all loud as hell, and i dont rememberin then runnin way under 13

BlackGT2000
07-11-2005, 05:25 PM
I agree, I have seen them and my best friend has a 98z28 with a fair bit of work done and it dosn't run 12's. They are fast cars but not 12 second cars.

Demonhunter
07-12-2005, 01:01 AM
the fromula was an Lt1 ...im kinda savy to exhaust tone...ohh and i talked to the guy. Your crackin if you think the lt-1 stock is a beast. They can be built pretty good but stock they arnt as mighty as you make it sound. Enjoy your lt1 id buy one if i found one cheap enough but they body just isnt my style.

blu88notch
07-12-2005, 12:42 PM
Stock for stock 5.0 > TPI.
From 87 to 92, the 5.0's, were walking TPI's at track and on the street. That is fact. From 93 on the Camaro was walking the Mustang.

94GPSHAKER
07-12-2005, 05:21 PM
im not to crazy about the TPI, but ive heard good things about the 80's L98 wich was in the IROC Z's

Muscletang
07-12-2005, 07:50 PM
i myself have a 94 LT1 z28 that will smoke the newer supercharged stangs (stock or slightly modded) and i wont even waste my time on the 5.0's unless the car is shaking from high ass cam lift.

:lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol:

blu88notch
07-13-2005, 06:21 AM
Stock for stock 5.0 > TPI.
From 87 to 92, the 5.0's, were walking TPI's at track and on the street. That is fact. From 93 on the Camaro was walking the Mustang.

I believe the L98 was TPI. From '87 until the LT1 came out, Camaros were seeing Mustang tail lights. TPI, L98 what ever, Mustang was on top. If GM would have put a 5sp, in the 5.7 cars, it would have been real close.

TheStang00
07-13-2005, 11:39 AM
this just in boys, 305s suck balls...everyone and there mom knows it too. theres no chance it could beat a 302. sorry buddy. now the lt1 beating a cobra... good one.

ghostx
07-15-2005, 09:36 PM
This should probably be in car comparos but that's pickin at little stuff.

94GPSHAKER
07-15-2005, 10:57 PM
this just in boys, 305s suck balls...everyone and there mom knows it too. theres no chance it could beat a 302. sorry buddy. now the lt1 beating a cobra... good one.

yea i bet a lot of people in the camaro forums would laugh at you for saying that, and as for your doggin on the LT1 put your money where your mouth is, and as for the newer stangs I believe its what a 8 LB, or 6lb supercharger pushing 400hp, put the equal blower on the LT1 with matched dual 58mm throttle body you would see around 500-575 rwhp depending on cooling.

TheStang00
07-15-2005, 11:32 PM
hoe much do those camaros cost again? oh thats right. and if ur gonna seriously bash on a 03/04 cobra engine and say it isnt impressive, well then you might wanna go kill urself. its tuned down big time buddy.

Demonhunter
07-16-2005, 12:52 AM
yeah the old "well if the camaro had a blower" CRAP. Guess what...they DONT. If

TheStang00
07-16-2005, 01:11 PM
yeah and i suppose LT1s can hold 1000 hp stock too

BlackGT2000
07-16-2005, 05:31 PM
Well not to play devils advocate or anything but maybe he wasn't talking about the 03/04. I could see the LT1 giving a run to the previous years. But if he was talking about the 03/04, good luck beathing that even with a stock LS1.

94GPSHAKER
07-16-2005, 05:50 PM
hey deamon hunter you are a joke, i have an LT1 Modified with an LT4, w/blower pushin 626 rwhp/ 614ftlb tq with the pully's that came with the s/c. oh yea and i didnt bash on the newer stang motors i know the new cobra R's are going to be badass I live in mi and have been to a tour of the roush plant where they were making the engines.

the other engineer at work said he has heard talks MI was getting bids for a new rw dr chevrolet plant in wayne i believe. new home of the camaro boys

Demonhunter
07-16-2005, 06:09 PM
give me your mod list.
and what are you talking about cobra r? and roush is making it? Roush is a company all its own. They just modify mustangs.

TheStang00
07-16-2005, 06:14 PM
that doesnt sound like light modding to me...

351wStang
07-17-2005, 03:57 PM
How did this thread come from v6 to LT1 all of a sudden?? I wish this thread would get locked, deleted, moved, something...its getting annoying.

Demonhunter
07-17-2005, 04:34 PM
hey when you gonna get rid of those 10-holes lol?

Muscletang
07-17-2005, 07:09 PM
yea i bet a lot of people in the camaro forums would laugh at you for saying that

We're not in the Camaro forums though are we?

as for the newer stangs I believe its what a 8 LB, or 6lb supercharger pushing 400hp

Bingo :thumbsup:

put the equal blower on the LT1 with matched dual 58mm throttle body you would see around 500-575 rwhp depending on cooling.

:grinno:

eillob
07-17-2005, 07:38 PM
For me what I like most about Mustangs is how easy they are to work on. Especially the 5.0's

F-bodys are ok if thats what you like I really don't see the need for all the bashing here. I've owned 3 of them in the past. One 86 Trans-am, 86 IROC and a 88 Z-28. All had 305's except the Z, it came with a 350. The 305's were nothing to speak of even with bolt ons they got smoked by 5.0s like it was nobodys business. The Z even got smoked by 5.0s and it was the heaviest modded of them all. The problem with them is that they were just too damn heavy.

The newer f-bodys were much better. I think GM realized the problem with weight thats why half the car now is made out of plastic. There's no denying that the LT1 and LS1 are formidable apponents on the street. I've never seen one run 12 anything stock, mid 13s sure. About the only problem I see with late model f-bodys now is the engine compartment. If you get one you better get one in good shape because getting under the hood to do anything is a headache. And god help you if you ever have to pull the motor.
All you need to do a motor swap in a mustang is a cherry picker. In an f body you need a lift because the motor has to come out of the bottom along with the front suspension. Few shops around here even wanna bother working on them, those that do want an arm and a leg for the labor.

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