The Lamborghini Diablo by Gembella is the fastest car in the world exceeding speeds of over 255mph!!!! Anyone find anything faster?

link?

There is a Diablo, an ugly one at that, only 4 exist, I can't remember the name, it does 385km/hr...woah... They normally only go 335 (208m/hr??).

This is the car I think he's talking about: http://www.lambocars.com/archive/diablo/gemballad.htm

It's still not the fastest production car. That title now belongs to the Bugatti Veyron.

410 km/h on a Diablo. Yeah right. Maybe with a jet engine on a solt flat somewhere in a dessert.

And secondly they don't produce the Bugatti Veron and neither does it reach the 400km/h barrier or even brake after exiding 350km/h+

410 km/h on a Diablo. Yeah right. Maybe with a jet engine on a solt flat somewhere in a dessert.

And secondly they don't produce the Bugatti Veron and neither does it reach the 400km/h barrier or even brake after exiding 350km/h+
What are you talking about? The Veyron is now in production and it has already had its top speed of 250mph confirmed.

Unbelievable, never thought they would make it.

But a 255MPH Diablo is clearly impossible.

clearly?

Don't jump to conclusions mate when you have a link from a highly reliable source staring at your face.

If they seriously wanted to reach those speeds then why did they use a convertible????

And don't start about indycars which are also convertible because these are designed to reach those speeds. I doubt the windscreen on a diablo would survive let alone the other more crucial stuff.

Other then that, I'd say it's a reliable site :smokin:

OK, I don't mean to insult you, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

The Diablo is a highly aero-dynamic car, it's designed by professionals with over 30 years of sport car designing experience, the Diablo is very capable of reaching suchs speeds with the right engine [modifications?], and power-to-weight ratio, which obviously this car has achieved. The Diablo's front window is aerodynamically designed so sustain such presure at those high speeds, if it wouldn't, they would make it.

Planes travel much much faster, yet have a more verticle windscreen.

As to why they chose the roadster, I'm not sure, that's a good question, maybe because it's lighter? I can't say. But what "crucial stuff" are you talking aboot? I can't think of anything?

Although the speed does seem outragously high, it is quite possible.

Like, you can get 250hp from a small shitty 2.o liter WRX engine with a speed over 180, why can't you get twice that from an engine 3 times the size? I know displacement has nothing to do with it, but I'm just trying to show you what you can do with a small engine, so why can't you do it with a large one?

-Davo out.

Use a convertible? You must have no concepts of aerodynamics. A convertible will produce more drag, not to mention the uni-body construction is far from as strong as a coupe. That's why convertibles always weigh so much more. Not due to the motor for the top, but b/c of all the extra reinforcements needed to create a strong, solid structure. Not to mention the aerodynamics.

If they seriously wanted to reach those speeds then why did they use a convertible????



That's exactly what I'm saying here. A convertible will never run at 255MPH unless it's an Indy car. And be honest, you can't compare any street legal car with an Indy car.

I believe you could get 900HP from a 5,7L v12, but getting the power out the engine is the easy part. You need to change tyres, earodynamics, reinforce the frame, get rid of the mirors, different gearbox get rid of the extreme heat, improving the balance, new suspension, windscream, roof and the list goes on and on and on.
And a convertible will need a lot more than just 900HP perhaps 1100 like the Veyron.

Enough reason for me to say: A Diablo @255 MPH this is bull shit. :eek7: :iceslolan

Do you have proof that this is impossible? Or are you just spewing more bullshit that you can't back up?

I'm not saying it IS possible, I'm just saying don't jump to saying that it can't be done, simply because you are skepticle of the speed for a roadster.

Nope I haven't got proof, but neither have you. you've got a story. It's just a matter of comen sense, do you have any idea how much effort it took the bugatti team to produce a car to go that fast? And the Veyron isn't even a convertible. Oke I have to give you some credit, it probably is possible if you put an tremendous amount of money in such project. But still its highly unlikely and yes that would make me skeptical.

sorry to burst your bubble there lamboolic...but it is quite possible that you can get a twin turbo charged V-12 lamborghini engine to get 900BHP, i know, it is hard to believe, but its possible, it would be pushing the car to extreme limits though

I think it's possible.

in less they have change something and I have not seen it or heard about it that would not be posible with the engine they have use in so many other lamborghinis like on the diablo 5.7 they used a mid-engined V12 with a bore and stroke, coapacity 3.4 by 3.1 inches and it is only 348 cu.in. and that diablo had a top speed of 205 miles per hour that one was made from 1991 -2000

i think its possible because think about it, the Diablo went 205 mph with 500 hp, now take that and almost double the horsepower and with taller gearing it doesnt sound too far out of reach

Seem as though every noob is bringing back dead threads, why not.

I can't see how adding power will increase it's speed significantly, what you wouldn't be more interesting is reducing it's air drag. This at least would stop the friction from slowing it down.

I believe any 'proper' car can reach this speed, not your pice of shit honda civic with a VTEC engine and a large bullshit "show" carbon-fire GT wing, get fucked mate you're a cock.

I mean... Real cars with real aerodynamics, not stupid bodykits to "pretend" to be sporty, or any engine modifications that you can gloat gives you that "extra 4mph", like you'd ever use it, dickhead.

Back on topic..

Apon reflection, Lamboholic is a dickhead, he went on to claim how it's impossible (what you own the worlds fastest car and know for a fact nothing can beat it?) Then he contradicted him self by saying "it can be possible with a decent amount of money put into it" or whatever I can't be bothered cut/copy. OMGWTFLOLBBQ??!??!

I'm confused.


-DVO Out

Unbelievable, never thought they would make it. But a 255MPH Diablo is clearly impossible.

no its not. with money, what gemballa obviously have, is nearly everything possible. including a 255mph lamborghini convertible.
That's exactly what I'm saying here. A convertible will never run at 255MPH unless it's an Indy car. And be honest, you can't compare any street legal car with an Indy car. I believe you could get 900HP from a 5,7L v12, but getting the power out the engine is the easy part. You need to change tyres, earodynamics, reinforce the frame, get rid of the mirors, different gearbox get rid of the extreme heat, improving the balance, new suspension, windscream, roof and the list goes on and on and on. And a convertible will need a lot more than just 900HP perhaps 1100 like the Veyron. Enough reason for me to say: A Diablo @255 MPH this is bull shit.

you are right about the changing the parts and reinforce the body. but i think they should have done that.

but your wrong that you should get rid of the mirrors. BAR racing(yes its not street legal, but it was legal with al the FIA regulations, which include that the car should have mirrors. the car had mirrors and they drove 414kmh i think.

the gearbox of lamborghini is extremly strong. so they might have changed it.

the point is, you think they only added some power to the car and then drove it to 255mph. they obviously didn't, as they're pro modifiers so they DO know what their doing. gemballa is not a big business, so why should they lie about this? they cant take something like that, as they might lose clients.

ps: the veyron has 1001 hp not 1100. they've driven 406 kmh, and then they noticed that their tires where spitting rubber. they changed the rubber so now its possible to dirve 400 something.

I warn you mr dickhead himself is back... :biggrin:

That much for a decent argument here :sly:


First Davo, the Buggati team had over 200 milion+++++++ dollar budget to get a closed car up to a 255MPH...

Secondly:
a convertible is considerably more difficult and really if you want to prove something it would be the last choise. A lamborghini Diablo is not that good when earodynamics are involved.......No really not. The closed car has already a cw.32+. In fact it is probably one of the worst cars you could pick let alone the convertible version. Why not the high tech F50, Mclaren F1 or the XJ220, those cars would have been already very challanging to get near the 255MPH Barrier. Was it origanally designed for those speeds???? No.Getting something up to such speeds means some serious wind tunnel testing. And then build a car up from scratch. I have some experiance with earodynamics (not on a car) and believe me when I say that convertible car from the picture is a nightmare. First you need downforce to keep it on the ground and espacially at the nose which will pick up some serious air underneeth which makes the car take off. Like Davo said it's very important to reduce drag which is very hard if you start on a imperfect design (understatement). The earodynamical forces on the topless car would be huge and also the disadvantage from much less body strength from a convertible is a very big problem which is hard to solve. The gearbox from the Diablo may survive but how about the chassis or any other part on the drive line? The fact that a high speed setup 4 milion+ dollar 900+BHP 600kg F1 racing car went 55MPH faster then the 550BHP Diablo only proves me right. This is a true story, it has been measured and the real pictures were all over the place. An F1 car has much better earodynamics then the Diablo, you can't compare it..... really no way. The FIA doesn't allow F1 cars to have the tyres covered like on the Diablo which increases drag significantly but so does the convertible layout of this Diablo and the back of the Lambo isn't too earodynamicly great either. The Bugatti however has a far more efficient design and for example has much less and smaller air in and out takes just to decrease drag. It also has hydrolic computer controlled earodynamics to drive as save as possible at high speeds. There just is now way till I've seen a riliable video to believe this car went all the way to 255MPH. And if Gemballa claims their car to run that fast where did they do it? Why wasn't bugatti worried about it? And when they lie who would prove them wrong? The e-type Jaquar was also claimed to run 150MPH but did it? According to a riliable top gear test there was now way... Did it harm the compagny???? Jaquar was at that time known for huge performance cars so there should have been critcs, aparently knowbody bothered. I don't say a Diablo is a bad car or neither that Gemballa would be a bad compagny but 255 didn't happen on a convertible Diablo.















I'll be back. :naughty:

I don't say a Diablo is a bad car or neither that Gemballa would be a bad compagny but 255 didn't happen on a convertible Diablo.


if gemballa said that they did it happend. if they never mentioned it it would bullcrap. get over it. F*** sake

OMG that was just 900 hp at the wheels, prolly over 1000 at the fly wheel which I believe is what the Bugatti veyron does have at the flywheel, i wouldnt be surprised if the lambo had even more power, it isnt that hard to get a twin turbo V 12 to push tht much (also those turbos arent small at all, doin a lot of boosting) but the eyron did have a w 16 with 4 turbos. On the link it did not mention any other mods bar the tires and the dual turbos but as people have said they prolly did mod it extensively. I do however doubt that the lambo did reach 255 mph as many parts of the car would start to deteriorate like the tyres which bugatti did come across and have rectified with michellin low profile run-flat tyres. The turbos really do not add all that much horse power to the car compared to the torque gains seen and this is shown by the veyrons quad turbo engine pushing more than 1200 torque which is insanely high for any engine. so in finishing the lambo would be fast but not that fast.

P.S: check out the koenesegge (spelt wrong) CCR it pushes 675 kw with a supercharged V8 (slightly over 1080 bhp), it looks better than the bugatti as well :p.

uh... Koenigsegg is faster..... and the CCR only has 806 bhp.

No hard facts in here on anything but the Veyron. Just alot of people spewing bad information.

sorry about that extremely crap piece of information. I used an old source that turned out to be unreliable. you are 100% correct L8R_H8R sorry. But one thing is wrong. the veyron accelerates to 100km/h in 2.5 seconds, while the CCR does it in 3.2, also the CCR only maxes out at 242 km/h (not to be shrugged at) so the veyron must be the faster car. I would personally rather the CCR cos it looks a lot better and has a nicer price attatched.

Lamboholic, I didn't read any of that, but I still stand by what I said.

I don't think and I am most likely worng on this but agean I am thinking and nothing good come out of me thinking so you ask why I do well back to the car thing I don't think lamborghini has any cars that can mach the mclaren f1 in top speed nor the XJ 220.

The Veyron, ..., 1001 Hp, not 1100, look at the Hp guage on the dash, it says so

who cares? when the fuck are you going to drive 255mph?

they have a track that owners will be allowed to use to test the speed of the car. what a rush that would be.

Especially if your last car was a ford and you're put into the seat of a beast you are yet to learn to tame.

Vvrrooomm.

Hawt.

Mclaren F1

it's not really difficult to produce 900hp out of a v12. ever heard of vector, how bout a concept car producing 1000hp, with good old american power, the bugatti, is a one time only car, no cars that you can buy can hit 253, they are all governed to 215, which is still a feat in its self. but i'm having only one problem with a lambo diablo hitting 255, aerodynamics are a key part in speed abilities, but it gets to a certain point that the aerodynamics actually lift the car off the ground, because it's causing lift. A good example of that is the ssc aero 8t, it is limited to 248, at 249, it has been proven, it actually lift a few inches from the ground. last time i checked there are few cars that were built to fly, and supercars aren't included. i think that what the bugatti hit, the 253, is great, and it's going to take a lot of money, and a lot of will power, and great design, from a dedicated team to beat that. Mclaren could do it using their engineering, but it's still hard. if the lambo hit 255, i have to hand it to the driver, he has a big set of balls, my stealth twin turbo can hit 168, i hit 120, and then you become aware of what can happen in fractions of seconds. i would want actual paperwork or some other proof that the car hit that speed.

ok enough :) the 255 are never proved...