Old Camaro/Mustang...


SRP | Lucian
05-17-2005, 08:41 PM
Hey,

Iím posting this for my friend because he doesnít have an internet connection at the moment. Anyways, he has about $5K at the moment to spend and he really likes the older Camaro/Mustang look. He want to have it more geared towards street racing though if thatís possible. So, what cars do you recommend?

Thanks!

Rally Sport
05-17-2005, 09:32 PM
For 5K you could get a 4th gen z28, if he wants an older look you're looking at a 3rd gen Z28 which is still good and hey you got plenty of money left over for upgrades.

Muscletang
05-17-2005, 10:00 PM
You'll have to be more specific here.

If it were me I'd get an '87-'93 5.0 or an IROC.

BlackGT2000
05-17-2005, 10:12 PM
I would say go for the 87-93 5.0 or IROC also, I would personally go for the fox but go for which either one you can find in better shape.

drftk1d
05-17-2005, 10:39 PM
make sure it has EIGHT cylinders

KNicePL
05-17-2005, 10:42 PM
You'll have to be more specific here.

If it were me I'd get an '87-'93 5.0 or an IROC.

:iagree:

UnderEstimate Me
05-17-2005, 11:08 PM
Wait how old are we talking? When I read it I was thinking 1st or 2nd gen camaros or mustangs.

dampachi
05-17-2005, 11:33 PM
tell your friend to take that 5k and step into 1999. who doesnt have the internet??

CivRacer95
05-17-2005, 11:36 PM
tell your friend to take that 5k and step into 1999. who doesnt have the internet??

All teh folks on teh Rez don't that's for sure :(.

dampachi
05-17-2005, 11:38 PM
All teh folks on teh Rez don't that's for sure :(.


who the fuck needs intraweb when you can conjure the spirits of the wild?

CivRacer95
05-17-2005, 11:40 PM
who the fuck needs intraweb when you can conjure the spirits of the wild?

:lol:

ok ok, let's not get off topic dampy :).

As for the 5K and what to buy, Mustang or Camaro, I'd say buy a Civic.

SRP | Lucian
05-17-2005, 11:44 PM
Okay, thanks guys. He does have internet but it's down for a while because there doing contruction in his neighborhood and they had to dig up all the wires and stuff.

5.0 Mustang, Z28, or IROC it is, thanks guys.

dampachi
05-17-2005, 11:45 PM
Fuck the topic! It's chaos up in this bitch!!!!


















Tell him to get a 5.0 :(

SRP | Lucian
05-18-2005, 09:41 AM
Fox body?

Also, he wants to know if it will be able to keep up with some of the other more modern cars (Talon, Eclipse, 300ZX, 240SX, etc.) in the handling department.

Thank you.

drftk1d
05-18-2005, 09:42 AM
Yezzer!!!

TatII
05-18-2005, 10:38 AM
if you want a car that handled better, then i believe the IROC has the better suspension. however i would take the fox body over the iroc. because they look better today, and they're lighter ( even though the 4 link in the rear sucks, and the torque box in the back is known to break ) but they're everywhere so fixing them and parts for them is dirty cheap and practically everyone knows how to fix them.

drftk1d
05-18-2005, 11:28 AM
i think you can get a fox body coupe with a 5.0 in it. the LX. the coupe has more rigidity than the hatchback (well usually thats the case)

SRP | Lucian
05-18-2005, 12:09 PM
So, I'll tell my friend to search for a 5.0 Fox Body Coupe Mustang. Should we search for any specific year? So, do you think that it could keep up with the more modern cars? Thanks guys!

dampachi
05-18-2005, 12:47 PM
for $5,000 you're not going to get an old car thats fast and handles. foxbodies handle like shopping carts. but they can go fast in a straight line.

KNicePL
05-18-2005, 01:00 PM
....foxbodies handle like shopping carts...

Haha, :evillol: good one damp. :smokin:

TatII
05-18-2005, 01:51 PM
i would try to find he notch backs. those are what they call the coupes. and the the LX becasue they're lighter then the GT's. the fox bodys are usually 5.0 equiped, but some of them ( very rarely ) are 4 bangers, or a 4 banger turbo. stay away from those~!!!!!

also its funny how you say that the fox body handles like a shopping cart becasue underneth the body shell, your mustang has the exact same chassis. down to almost the last screw, the only revision i see is the disc brakes in the rear, and probrably differen't shocks and springs. other then that, its the exact same thing. i had two of them on a lift once side by side, and i was amazed that it really was the same thing.

dampachi
05-18-2005, 03:48 PM
i would try to find he notch backs. those are what they call the coupes. and the the LX becasue they're lighter then the GT's. the fox bodys are usually 5.0 equiped, but some of them ( very rarely ) are 4 bangers, or a 4 banger turbo. stay away from those~!!!!!

also its funny how you say that the fox body handles like a shopping cart becasue underneth the body shell, your mustang has the exact same chassis. down to almost the last screw, the only revision i see is the disc brakes in the rear, and probrably differen't shocks and springs. other then that, its the exact same thing. i had two of them on a lift once side by side, and i was amazed that it really was the same thing.


and when asked to attend a road racing event with my friend, I replied "no way, my car handles like shit."

cash1188
05-18-2005, 04:00 PM
If he decides to get an iroc make sure its a 350 tpi.

TheStang00
05-18-2005, 04:05 PM
yeah a 87-93 fox with a 5.0 can be fast as shit

SRP | Lucian
05-18-2005, 11:14 PM
Quick noob question, we were searching on Ebay for Fox Body's and didn't see very many. How is the Fox Body seperated from the other Mustangs? Are the internals the same as other 'Stangs just the body is different? Finally, I'm taking the 5.0 is referring to the motor?

Is there a website that lists all of the Mustang models, specs, etc?

Thanks!

pre98zetec
05-18-2005, 11:31 PM
Quick noob question, we were searching on Ebay for Fox Body's and didn't see very many. How is the Fox Body seperated from the other Mustangs? Are the internals the same as other 'Stangs just the body is different? Finally, I'm taking the 5.0 is referring to the motor?

Is there a website that lists all of the Mustang models, specs, etc?

Thanks!Fox body is just what they call the old stangs with 5.0s in them, nothing different.

dampachi
05-18-2005, 11:58 PM
87-93 mustang.

GTStang
05-19-2005, 12:37 AM
Fox-body Mustangs refer to 79-93 Mustang which sit on the Fox-chassis.

94-04 Sit on a slightly modified fox-chassis called Fox4 or more often SN-95

4-bangers Foxes are very rare? :lol2:


IROC's have better skipad numbers, Mustangs 5.0 have better Slalom number so handling is a toss up and both can be improved easily.

SRP | Lucian
05-19-2005, 09:43 AM
Okay, thanks guys. I take it there very good from a stop?

Also, I'm going to be getting a Z31 Turbo and who's do you think would win, his Fox Body or my Z31T? Just curious...

Thanks!

illegal_eagle187
05-19-2005, 11:37 AM
fox body is the way to go....find one for about 1-2k and have the 3-4 k in upgrades and you will be haulin ass

dampachi
05-19-2005, 12:24 PM
fox body is the way to go....find one for about 1-2k and have the 3-4 k in upgrades and you will be haulin ass

You have it backwards. Find one for 3-4k..and do 2k in mods and you'll be haulin ass.

BullDog71ss
05-19-2005, 01:25 PM
Yeah, what dampachi said...get one for at least $3,500
Anything less will be in bad shape. Also, whatever you get, do NOT get a convertable model if you want to do anything but go in a strait line, no matter what kind of deal you find. Oh yeah, get one from 1989 or up, it'll have a mass air unit installed from the factory, and that's half the battle.

TheStang00
05-19-2005, 02:30 PM
yes 5.0 is referring to the motor, that motor is also often reffered to as a 302. but with 2k you can make a fox haul ass.

SRP | Lucian
05-19-2005, 08:30 PM
So basically he would whoop my ass if I was driving a Z31T? One more thing, he wanted to know if it had any problems racing from a stop? Is it FR or FF? His internet should be back up soon so he will probably be posting soon.

Uh-oh... :(

dampachi
05-19-2005, 08:35 PM
front engine, rear wheel drive.

YodaGeek
05-19-2005, 08:41 PM
Hello guys, first post here. Thanks for helping me out Stephen. Anyways, thanks a lot for all of the help guys. Sorry I couldn't post myself but my internets been down. Anyways, would my Fox Body 5.0 Stang whoop his Z31T's bottom? :) Thank you.

Edit: One more thing, I hear the Mustangs get completely crap gas mileage. Is there any way to make this thing more efficient on gas? I heard it get's like 12 MPG, yuck!

illegal_eagle187
05-19-2005, 09:01 PM
no i can find a 1-2k dollar fox body in good condition, u just gotta look around hard enough, but yeah i agree the average price of a pretty good one is around 3k

illegal_eagle187
05-19-2005, 09:02 PM
i have not heard of them getting 12 mpg......shit i know big ass suburbans getting better than that

dampachi
05-20-2005, 12:24 AM
no i can find a 1-2k dollar fox body in good condition, u just gotta look around hard enough, but yeah i agree the average price of a pretty good one is around 3k


bullshit. the only $1k foxbody i've seen was a rolling chassis. Good condition foxes start at $2,500.

dampachi
05-20-2005, 12:27 AM
Hello guys, first post here. Thanks for helping me out Stephen. Anyways, thanks a lot for all of the help guys. Sorry I couldn't post myself but my internets been down. Anyways, would my Fox Body 5.0 Stang whoop his Z31T's bottom? :) Thank you.

Edit: One more thing, I hear the Mustangs get completely crap gas mileage. Is there any way to make this thing more efficient on gas? I heard it get's like 12 MPG, yuck!



That's the trade off. Want performance? Okay, then it's gonna eat gas. If you're looking for economy and performance..you want a turbo'd four banger. Not a heads/cam/intake V8.

drftk1d
05-20-2005, 01:10 AM
naw turbo 4 cyls dont necesarily get good mileage either, i thought the evolution would be better on gas than it is.

i've seen foxbody stangs for 1k.

GTStang
05-20-2005, 02:54 AM
Only 87-93 Fox body that I would touch for 1K are rolling chassis no engine/trans.

The gas mileage is not anything to write home about but certainly not 12mpg. Think more like avg. high teens to 20 if you don't drive like an ass.

YodaGeek
05-20-2005, 09:42 AM
Thank you for the replies. What are some good turbo'd four bangers if I do decide to go down that road?

runningmole
05-20-2005, 12:30 PM
for $5,000 you're not going to get an old car thats fast and handles. foxbodies handle like shopping carts. but they can go fast in a straight line.

But that's fixable! Maximum Motorsports or Griggs Racing goodies will change that shopping cart handling ability! Nothing like a brick on wheels showing a modern car what it can do! :naughty: Subframes and infloors, and no more chassis flex!
http://www.socalstangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1271

illegal_eagle187
05-20-2005, 02:39 PM
bullshit. the only $1k foxbody i've seen was a rolling chassis. Good condition foxes start at $2,500.

ur in a different part of the country, i guess prices are different up there than from down here

CBFryman
05-20-2005, 05:00 PM
who doesnt have the internet??

Anyone see the irony in that? :lol2:

SRP | Lucian
05-21-2005, 05:03 PM
Well, after hearing about how the Fox Body is, it seems that it is of much better value compared to the Z31 and how it can be made so fast with little money, I'm thinking about getting one. Quick question, I'm not very fond of their looks/styling so could someone please post a pick of the nicest Fox Body they've ever seen?

Thanks!

drftk1d
05-21-2005, 08:41 PM
and you were pleased with the Z31's looks? :rofl:

SRP | Lucian
05-21-2005, 09:04 PM
I do like the Z31's looks a lot but it just seems that the Fox Body is such a good car because every one says it can be made to go so fast with minimal money. I just thought it might be a good car for a beginner. I'm still trying to decide though.

TheStang00
05-22-2005, 10:02 AM
i saw a really nice right down the road from my house actually, for sale, but im broke. its in grear condition. theres one that looks almost exactly like it on the cover of mustang trader magazine.

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