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realhate
05-15-2005, 07:14 PM
Right off of a red light. I thought he was gonna be a problem cause he looked modded out the ass. But the Stang didnt fail me. by 70 mph he was about 2 car lengths behind me.

CivRacer95
05-15-2005, 07:54 PM
I pwn 99+ V6 Stangs :evillol:.

Sleepr awd
05-15-2005, 08:38 PM
I pwn 99+ V6 Stangs :evillol:.
:iagree:

good kill regardless

TheStang00
05-15-2005, 08:46 PM
ok guys... let just try not to start a hate thing here... we coulld say maybe... good kill

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
05-15-2005, 09:26 PM
Yeah a modified gti doesn't stand a chance against a v6 stang. Great kill!! :sly:

CassiesMan
05-15-2005, 09:43 PM
Right off of a red light. I thought he was gonna be a problem cause he looked modded out the ass. But the Stang didnt fail me. by 70 mph he was about 2 car lengths behind me.

Really? What videogame is this? I mean, even MC3:DE is realistic in comparison.

TheStang00
05-15-2005, 09:46 PM
then again... i dont know anything about a gti... i guess this guy kinda deserves it from the way he acted last time lol

CassiesMan
05-15-2005, 11:39 PM
A lightly modded GTI walked me from a roll twice. So I really doubt his V6 stang (I almost bought one, I swear, I was embaresed sitting in it) walked a "modded out the ass" GTI. Unless by modded out the ass he meant a body kit. Even then, a GTI would still whup a V6 Stang.

-Jayson-
05-16-2005, 12:10 AM
no if it was the 150HP version, then it was very slow and he prolly could have one. But if it was the 180 HP version, he would got stomped. Cause with a new chip, those things can be running close to 13's.

drftk1d
05-16-2005, 01:40 AM
probably wasnt racing you

silentscreams85
05-16-2005, 01:58 AM
probably wasnt racing you
:iagree: or maybe he felt sorry for you...so he let you win :rofl:

-The Stig-
05-16-2005, 03:35 AM
Right off of a red light. I thought he was gonna be a problem cause he looked modded out the ass. But the Stang didnt fail me. by 70 mph he was about 2 car lengths behind me.



What do you mean you're back? You just joined... or are you somebody else we know that drives a V6 Mustang. :sly:


Don't make me have to IP search you. :nono:

speedthrill
05-16-2005, 04:45 AM
What do you mean you're back? You just joined... or are you somebody else we know that drives a V6 Mustang. :sly:


Don't make me have to IP search you. :nono:

You can be so rude to people sometimes Red, especially when they're just back when they've never left. :lol2:

sorry to quote this but lol it sounded familiar indeed....

Right_LiRrr
05-16-2005, 06:30 AM
Hahaha, I read the thread title and the posts are exactly as I expected.

Pistolpete
05-16-2005, 06:49 AM
:iagree:

gti1689
05-16-2005, 07:53 AM
wow, no way u beat a 1.8t. i just got really pissed off when i read that.

Musashi3000GT
05-16-2005, 08:11 AM
He never mentioned what year the GTI was. I remember seeing a blue GTI that looked like it was from the early 90s round my house, I dont think it was even turbo, realy well kept but not fast at all.
hey maybe this is Burntrice/ Detroit muscle's new identity! :dunno:

TheStang00
05-16-2005, 04:03 PM
guys he was around a while ago, he was the one talking about all the different cars his stang could beat, like bmw 3 series and stuff. he was around b4, i think he got banned. but his car is a legit mid 15 car stock, so that might help determine whether hes bsing or not.

wonword
05-16-2005, 05:17 PM
v6 mustang=walked by almost anything

realhate
05-16-2005, 05:25 PM
a gti has 180 hp stock. a v6 mustang has 195. I dont have much modds. Just a cold air intake, ultra low restrict cat converter, 1 and a half inch drop, and a low restriction muffler(all summit). He (meani8ng the gti) obviously had intake and a muffler, and he also was lowered. ANd it was a race but he pussied out after about 80 then turned off.

CivRacer95
05-16-2005, 05:28 PM
Thought the race ended at 70 when you had two carlengths on him?

By chance, what year GTI was it? How exactly do you know he had intake? The exhaust is obvious, but intake is another thing.

realhate
05-16-2005, 05:50 PM
I said I had 2 car lengths on him by 70, but the race ended at about 80 when he turned off. And I could tell he had intake cause everybody that does mods to their cars put on some kind of air intake and I could here it when he was shifting.

CivRacer95
05-16-2005, 05:57 PM
Riiiiiggghhhhttt...:rolleyes:.

Well congrats to you then, you keep beating those 16 second cars. Let us know when you actually take on something worth hearing about.

TheStang00
05-16-2005, 06:26 PM
v6 mustang=walked by almost anything

well its a mid 15 car, so you can figure it out from there, there is a lot they can beat. and you people just shit on them cause theres a lot of them... they are actually a good tuner car. if you look at it most tuner cars are cheap and around a mid 15 quarter, thats exactly a v6 mustang. and they have the largest aftermarket around, and you can see a whole lot of power with them. only difference most people dont use them for tuner cars

and realhate, dont bullshit with the guys here, your car has 190hp, and you cant here a CAI from another car during a race.

Igovert500
05-16-2005, 06:46 PM
they are actually a good tuner car.

no :shakehead

CivRacer95
05-16-2005, 06:48 PM
I'm sure wonword was referring to the 94-98 V6 Stangs. In which case, he is right about those being walked by almost anything. A 5th Gen Vtec Civic can give those a run for their money. But, the 99+ V6 Stangs are a mid to high 15 sec car.

TatII
05-16-2005, 07:04 PM
i'm not goin to say that i believe him or not, but however any car with a intake is very very obvious. a turbo GTi with a intake, you would hear the little turbo screaming, and you would hear the stock boost bypass valve as loud as a blow off valve venting off the atmosphere. i can usually hear their intakes over their exhuast. also a 150hp GTi is mechanically identical to a 180hp GTi. its only tuned differently. so a chip can easily make it past 180hp and will yeld the same gains on the 150hp as the 180hp ones. you can never really tell what kind of mods they have. when my turbo was blown ( but still putting down 214whp ) i hardly was able to walk away from one what looked stock. those things gets me mad!!! i will race everyone that messes with me and i'll blow most of them out of the water ( unless hes got an upgraded turbo )

TheStang00
05-16-2005, 07:24 PM
does that car have a turbo? with only 150hp id think it wouldnt

1993_GT
05-16-2005, 07:30 PM
Right off of a red light. I thought he was gonna be a problem cause he looked modded out the ass. But the Stang didnt fail me. by 70 mph he was about 2 car lengths behind me.

Ok am I the only one that can smell the :bs: here... You see I have raced a modded GTI at the track and I just barely managed to beat him in my 93 GT Mustang. The fact of the matter is it could of went either way, I just came out the victor by about half to a full car length depending on where you were viewing the race from, on any other given day he could of won by the same; the race was that close and my car runs right at 14 seconds flat.

I do not believe a V6 Mustang can take a modded GTI. Those VW are just real fast for what they are. So yea I call :bs:

Just my :2cents: !!!

CivRacer95
05-16-2005, 07:37 PM
Apparently you didn't read everyone else's posts? :dunno: Just a stab in the dark with that one there.

cash1188
05-16-2005, 08:12 PM
I know theres a good chance that this story is bs but i don't think a 2001 v6 mustang is as slow as you think. theres several of you who have posted in this thread that have 15 sec cars. i dont think his mustang is much slower than a scion tc if it is at all

---
05-16-2005, 08:24 PM
^ lol

Do V6 Mustangs even have over 200 hp? I don't think so, and I know a GTi is turbo. Unless you have some real shit done to that Mustang, I call bullshit.

gti1689
05-16-2005, 09:47 PM
does that car have a turbo? with only 150hp id think it wouldnt

wellll...it DID only have 150hp back in 2000-2001. the engine is only a 1.8 liter, so imagine a soda bottle minus a couple of gulps. the 2001 150hp version is basically the same engine as the 180hp version minus the more aggressive ECU tuning. the 2000 version has a slightly different turbo (still a KO3) but it can still have massive hp gains w/bolt-ons.

small upgrades like intake, exhuast, and chip will yield massive gains. in fact, GIAC lists gains of 45-55hp and 50 lb ft for the 2001 1.8t using their chip. 2002+ models get only 25-30hp gains, but 50-55 lb ft. an intake and exhaust will surley bump up the power output a good 30+ hp, so this makes your "win" even more unlikely :headshake

great site which explains a lot about 1.8t tuning
http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/0304ec_neuspeed/

1.8t engine
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/gti_1689/Passat_Engine_HiRes.jpg


1.8t engine diagram
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/gti_1689/18t.jpg


again, you were the one who was there, so there CANNOT be any doubt that this really happened as described :shakehead i would love to race you in my gti :). 2001 vr6. think about it.

2001 vr6
174hp
181 lb ft
2800-2900lbs

2001 mustang v6
190hp
220 lb ft
about 3200lbs

hmmm...if u have so much hp over me and the 1.8t how come your car is so slow? mid to high 15's for a stang w/close to 200hp sounds slow to me. first day i bought the gti i cut a 15.183@93.060. now i could probably break into high 14's if i have a good 60' time. stock 1.8t's run low 15's also (around 15.2), and modified ones are easily into the 14's.

what a vr6 w/my mod can do (we both only have a GIAC chip)
http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-GTI-Timeslip-4185.html
14.9@93.000 (him)----15.183@93.000 (me-stock)

what a stock 1.8t can do
http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-GTI-Timeslip-4036.html
15.228@93.400

what a 1.8t w/a chip will do
http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-GTI-Timeslip-4357.html
14.617@97.980

i'm ready...are you :biggrin:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/gti_1689/States2005011.jpg

CAN'T WAIT!!!

gti1689
05-16-2005, 09:48 PM
i cannot belive i got so into that last post. no cliff notes for anyone!!!! i spent a lot of time on it. read it and learn :icon16:

TatII
05-16-2005, 09:49 PM
the newer v6 stangs have 190hp. the current gen v6 has 220hp. they are not slow, but they aren't fast either. a yes the first of the 1.8T's did only have 150hp becasue they didn't want to threaten the sales of VR6's . they ran really low boost to make less power. and like what 1993_GT said, he hardly edged one out, and i only got one by 4-5 cars from 70mph to 120mph so modded ones are definitly quick cars.

gti1689
05-16-2005, 09:50 PM
the new mustang v6 is legit if u get it w/a stick. some car mag had it run a 6.9 0-60 and a low 15's quarter, so it's def. better than the version i was talking about.

civicHBsi91
05-16-2005, 09:54 PM
anyone put into account driver ability?

maybe the gti driver couldent drive.

Ive raced decently modded gti's and they can be quick deff nothing a v6 stang or camaro could hang with without some work.

gti1689
05-16-2005, 10:33 PM
yeah, most people don't have the elusive driver mod.

realhate
05-17-2005, 10:09 AM
A stock v6 mustang has 193 hp not 190. A stock gti has 180 and a scion tc only has 160 stock. A scion cant fuck wit a v6 mustang unless modded. A Gti is better comp but stock it wont pull ahead of a v6 mustang either. Now modded it depends on whos modifications are better.

realhate
05-17-2005, 10:16 AM
also my 2001v6 mustang is 3100 pounds not 3200. And a 1993 gt mustang has about 230 hp stock. If he could barely beat a 180 hp vw then he cant shift worth sh*t. Cause I ran the gti on a bad day(meaning I was getting off the phone) and I only had 193 stock and I dont exactly know with the mods but I know its not over 210.

But I know my mustang isnt superfast but its fastre than alot of u think. Espcially if u think a civic si is fast.

i3o2Matt
05-17-2005, 10:36 AM
uhmm...hate to be an ass...but i've ran against stock v6 2001+ stangs in my old 89 Maxima 5spd (160 stock...200K miles ago) and i would run basically even with them...so i dunno...

TatII
05-17-2005, 11:43 AM
also my 2001v6 mustang is 3100 pounds not 3200. And a 1993 gt mustang has about 230 hp stock. If he could barely beat a 180 hp vw then he cant shift worth sh*t. Cause I ran the gti on a bad day(meaning I was getting off the phone) and I only had 193 stock and I dont exactly know with the mods but I know its not over 210.

But I know my mustang isnt superfast but its fastre than alot of u think. Espcially if u think a civic si is fast.

hmmmmm so you think 1993_GT can't drive? that guy runs a 14 flat buddy with only gears and intake and exhuast. hes one of the best drivers here on the forums becsaue most GT's with those mods are only mid 14 second cars. however his trap speed isn't all that great ( in the mid 90's ) plus like we all said, the power you'll be gaining by modding your V6 is childs play compared to the power the 1.8T pumps out with minor mods.

think of it as this way, lets use two extremes here. a honda with intake, headers and exhuast will gain around 12 hp to the wheels. a supra twin turbo with intercooler, boost controller, downpipe, exhuast, and intake will gain around 150 hp to the wheels. different cars have different gains, but generally speaking a n/a car's gain can't fuck with a turbo cars gain. same can said with the EVO, you put a turbo back exhuast, boost controller, and a ecu reflash, you'll gain 100 hp to all four wheels.

you think your n/a v6's bolt ons can even come close to those gains? a 1.8T can gain 30 hp to the wheels easy.

drftk1d
05-17-2005, 02:31 PM
truth hurts.

civicHBsi91
05-17-2005, 02:45 PM
A stock v6 mustang has 193 hp not 190. A stock gti has 180 and a scion tc only has 160 stock. A scion cant fuck wit a v6 mustang unless modded. A Gti is better comp but stock it wont pull ahead of a v6 mustang either. Now modded it depends on whos modifications are better.

OH NO 3 HP!!! :eek:

BlackGT2000
05-17-2005, 03:57 PM
I wouldn't really worry about it to be perfectly honest, i am sure they run comparable times stock. But on a different note, I would rather have a GTI than a V6 Mustang, and I am a Mustang owner.

gti1689
05-17-2005, 05:12 PM
But I know my mustang isnt superfast but its fastre than alot of u think. Espcially if u think a civic si is fast.

no, it's not superfast...or fast...whatever fuck it. second point is true. the v6 mustang is faster than similar competitors such as a hyundai elantra, honda civic dx, bicycle...but not by much. i'm just fuckin with ya, but one thing i do know is that I DON'T think the civic si is fast. my gti and a comparable stock model 1.8t are not fast, but they are faster than a mustang v6. you can argue all you want with me and other board members, but i can tell you that a 1.8t will beat your car 9 out of 10 times (one going to you if he stalls on the start :icon16: ).

also my 2001v6 mustang is 3100 pounds not 3200

notice how i put ABOUT before the 3200lbs.

A stock v6 mustang has 193 hp not 190

:cya:

A Gti is better comp but stock it wont pull ahead of a v6 mustang either. Now modded it depends on whos modifications are better.

:spit:

alright...lol
the facts are against you. gti's run low 15's stock and mid 14's w/simple mods, and your car is mid 15's at best. i eat up v6 mustangs ALL the time.

believe what u want to believe

BP2K2Max
05-17-2005, 06:46 PM
uhmm...hate to be an ass...but i've ran against stock v6 2001+ stangs in my old 89 Maxima 5spd (160 stock...200K miles ago) and i would run basically even with them...so i dunno... in one of his other threads this kid claims to have beaten the 265 hp 6th gen maxima despite the 70 hp defecit. i wouldn't put much merit in what he says.

BlackGT2000
05-17-2005, 07:00 PM
in one of his other threads this kid claims to have beaten the 265 hp 6th gen maxima despite the 70 hp defecit. i wouldn't put much merit in what he says.

Yeah 70 hp is a pretty big difference I would have to call that BS. As long as you manage not to grind gears you can't loose with 70 more HP in the same car.

1993_GT
05-17-2005, 07:32 PM
hmmmmm so you think 1993_GT can't drive? that guy runs a 14 flat buddy with only gears and intake and exhuast. hes one of the best drivers here on the forums becsaue most GT's with those mods are only mid 14 second cars. however his trap speed isn't all that great ( in the mid 90's ) plus like we all said, the power you'll be gaining by modding your V6 is childs play compared to the power the 1.8T pumps out with minor mods.

think of it as this way, lets use two extremes here. a honda with intake, headers and exhuast will gain around 12 hp to the wheels. a supra twin turbo with intercooler, boost controller, downpipe, exhuast, and intake will gain around 150 hp to the wheels. different cars have different gains, but generally speaking a n/a car's gain can't fuck with a turbo cars gain. same can said with the EVO, you put a turbo back exhuast, boost controller, and a ecu reflash, you'll gain 100 hp to all four wheels.

you think your n/a v6's bolt ons can even come close to those gains? a 1.8T can gain 30 hp to the wheels easy.

Hey I appreciate the kudos TatII, I would not say I am one of the best drivers on the board though as there are a lot better drivers than me here I am sure. To be perfectly honest I have not been able to duplicate my best run. I have been running 1.98-2.10 60 foot times and quarter mile times have been like 14.10-14.20 second range with MPH in the mid to 90s'.

I have not been to the track in a few weeks but I have added a few extra goodies to my stang since my last time at the track. I am hopeing on getting out there this Friday night if I can get off work in time.

I just installed new springs and drag shocks on my car along with a Jacobs complete ignition system, sub frame connectors, g-force bar, new plugs, cap, rotor and plug wires. When I had my tune up done I had them clean my fuel injectors as well. The car feels much more responsive and seems to rev higher. The Jacobs ignition people claim to gain 2 tenths of a second in the quarter by using their ignition components as compared to stock. I am hoping with the new suspension work and Nitto drag radials that I can break into the 13s'. We shall see....

drftk1d
05-17-2005, 09:24 PM
no, it's not superfast...or fast...whatever fuck it. second point is true. the v6 mustang is faster than similar competitors such as a hyundai elantra, honda civic dx, bicycle...

:spit: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol:

gti1689
05-17-2005, 10:43 PM
the truth hurts :iceslolan :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

-The Stig-
05-18-2005, 12:17 AM
This thread is retarded.

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