alright, i know i have had my car for a while, and i am hardcore KA24DE-T, but alot of people were talking shit about the KA motor and telling me the only way to make my car fast, was to swap a SR20 in to it, at this point, i was laughing at everyone telling them that all they have to do is wait, and finnaly 6 months after i got my car,91 240sx coupe DOCH 5 speed, i have got my turbo setup together, so now that i have spent some $$ on this stuff, all of my friends are still like "u wont run any faster than a hi 13 of low 14", id like to hear what u guys have to say about this heres the list
1)B.D. stage 2 kit-57 trim
2)clutch spec stage 3 from B.D. also
3)full exhaust from B.D.(as u can tell by now i really like their stuff)
4)enthalpy tuned ecu
5)B&M shifter
6)gage pod
7)boost gage
8)oil pressure gage
9)j30 LSD
10)z32 mafs
and thats all i can think of now, is have to go check everything right now,id like to get some feedback on this from u guys, what u thinking it is g
gonna run???

what about injectors? what size injectors are you going to have running with your Enthalpy tune that makes a big difference. i would say faster than a high 13 though. but again it can totally vary you need to be more specific.

P.S. #'s 6-8 are just gauges ("gages") and #9 is a cheap solution that will cost you 1/10ths of seconds.

well the setup seems to be pretty good but i personally think you'll be running about as fast as a sr20 (not just being bias'd) but with out injectors and running stock boost...im thinking you'll hit around 225 whp'ish...so thats as fast as my sr20...and my motor is still stock. but you add some more boost and you'll blow away any sr motor with the same boost level, and get some injectors atleast some 550's...other wise your pretty much going to be be running lean.

btw that should all result in atleast a around a 13.5 1/4...id say atleast that

yeah the info without the injectors dont' tell anything really. and what psi are you running? that also is a big factor. if you have the proper fuel setup you should be able to run 14 psi on that turbo. with 14 psi that should be a high 12 second car. without the proper fuel, running small 370cc injectors, 9 psi is the safe limit with that i would have to say high 13's. also your friends are talkin all this smack about high 13's being slow. what do they drive?

Well if he is running the stage 2 kit from B.D. it comes with 52lb injectors.

the kit comes with 52lb injectors which convert to 546cc.. which will do.. other than that the kit looks good, and for $2600 you'll be just as quick as a stock sr like driftking said. up the boost a little and you might dip into the high 12s

isnt boost designs out of Panama city florida?

you beat me to it

and yes, they're in panama city

So the stage 2 kit form B.D. is about the same as to a stock sr?

beat u to what?

s13dr1fter beat me to posting the fact that the kit comes with 52lb injectors.

the conversion is simple. if you have the flow rate in lbs, then multiply by 10.5. if its in cc and you want lbs, divide by 10.5.

anyways, with this kit on and everything tuned properly he'll be about the same as a stock sr. i'd say side by side, the ka-t would win but in the higher rpm range the sr would dominate.. thats two stock turbo engines

if they were putting out the same power wouldnt the sr have a slight advantage because it is lighter?

thanks alot D-Bo. I think i decided to go sr now.

s13dr welcome to the sr family then

Thank You.

yes but the sr would still be stock.....the ka already has upgraded parts that could handle more in the long run. But anyways, any internals or what?? And what do you mean what we got. Isnt what you got? Or is this a project of you and your dad or something?

it was a quick post, dont be a jerk about the tittle it was just a simple question, and how do u think it will be same as a sr? a stock red top sr comes with 205 hp.= 50 more than my STOCK KA!! n/a to turbo, and not you bump my boost up to 15psi, yea sr...muhahahaha and the gear ratio is alot shorter and i would prob take alot of my 1/4 mi time with just that lsd, and thats not a cheap solution, i just cant afford to spendanother 800 on a kaaz lsd, im out of money

How was he being a jerk? That was a legitemate question.

why? with 550cc injectors, tuned ECU, fuel pump, and everything else in that kit...hes going to rape stock SR's all over the place....

i meant why would stock SR's compete with this KA...

yea i know what ever take offense to it. I dont care. Twitch obviously cant comprehend shit either. Now since you think im a jerk, ill give you a reason. Why dont you install all your shit take it to the god damn track and see what it runs, thats how you will find out!!!!! My god easy enough. Truth is we cant tell you wtf you'll run. Cuz what if you suck at driving well then your going to suck at a race. So uhhh yea good day and good bye. I mean this was a stupid ass thread to begin with. I mean you couldnt even tell us what all you ordered. Sounds like rice boy 2000 that spends money on shit so he can become fast and doesnt even know what he gets. Yippeee!! Good luck.

i wasnt being/taking offense to you chuki, or anyone else. And why does most of the products he says he bought come from the BD website? most people times are decided by how well of a driver they are..

i know hit and run....it was to what twitch said earlier about me being a jerk for some reason. I simply asked why he said what we got. like this was a group project, but he was to excited i guess cuz he saw a turbo for his first time and was typing all fast i guess.....but im a jerk thats all i know, cuz i asked a question about his shit...but owell this kid doesnt amaze me.

ur a stupid head

well let me chime in here for alittle bit. SR's stock only runs on 370cc injectors. those maxes out at 250ish whp, thats also when your turbo and maf maxes out. so bottom line, a SR with all the bolt ons will yeld you 250whp if your lucky. the average whp i see on SR's with bolt's running 14 psi is 220-230whp.

if teh SR has the same whp as a KA, the KA-T would win becsaue we have more tq. also we have larger turbo. most KA-T kits have T4's which are good for 400+ hp. so we will out flow that T25 anyday of the week. i've raced a S14 with a S14 SR running a T28, intake, exhuast, tubular turbo manifold running 10 psi and i beat him on the top end when i was only running 7 psi with a smaller intercooler on stock injectors with a FMU.

i've also known a few people making 300whp on bone stock block KA-T's running 13 psi. the Boostdesign kit willc ome with everything you need to make that kind of whp. all your missing is the Z MAF.

for the SR to even make anything near 300whp they need to change the injectors, need a ECU tune or a piggyback, a Z maf and the all important upgraded turbo. that will cost another $3000 on top of your $4000 swap.

my :2cents:

and that is why i want to ka-t

im trying to hook myself up with a deal through a friend of a friend type thing who can maybe get me a redtop SR with no turbo no intercooler just the engine, transmission, and wiring harness. if i can get that for a good price i would want to go SR because you are upgrading the turbo anyways so it would probably work out to be the same to what i would get from a KA with my funds. still gotta think about it though.

i'd reccommend getting an intercooler

He's saying that it doesn't come with the side mount or the turbo, but he's ganna get a front mount and an aftermarket turbo so it doesn't matter.

hey sorry if i flew off of the handel, because all of my friends like to say that my dad buys this and that, like my $5000 2003 crf 450r that I paid off in 2 1/2 years and worked my ass off working 6-4 at one job, and then working 5-9 on another job, and never getting a day off i worked 5 days a week from 6aM to 9:30ish pm and then worked only 8 hrs on the weekend, im sorry but i just get pissed off when people say something like that cuz i like to do everything on my own when it comes to getting money to support my hobby, and no this isnt the first time ive seen a turbo, ok just writing this so say sorry ok, im just really on edge all of the time, thats all