My mom saw my money order for my exhaust. She was liek what cost that much money I said an exhaust for my car. She was like what?!?! then she said you have to quit hiding stuff from me. So i told her i was going to swap my car to a 5-Spd this summer. She said "You have to drive through one of the most congested streets to work. I dont want you getting it for another year!!! that means not this summer but NEXT summer! Please I need help on how I could get this done this summer and with my moms acknowledgement. This is being a royal PAIN! She will prob freak out over Rims and tires too! man i am hating life.

damn.. how old are you? i guess you're just going to have to get some trust from your mother so she'll let you do what you want. Don't ask me how .. it depends and you would know best.

Other than that, i'd just wait it out... you don't want to disrespect your folks.

Thats the main thing if I didnt care..i would jsut do it. But since I do i want to do it with he consent im gonna sit her down adn talk to her and try to reason this out.

damn this sucks, so what if you drive on a busy street everyday, more fun then...i hope it works out for you..

tell her gas prices are rising and you need a more economical car such as a manual 240..

You're what...17? Get over it. It aint the end of the world. You live under her roof. SHE is responsible for you and your well-being. Be thankful you have a car!

i would smack a ho

You're what...17? Get over it. It aint the end of the world. You live under her roof. SHE is responsible for you and your well-being. Be thankful you have a car!

Even though he should be happy he at least has the car, all that doesn't give her the right to make stupid, unreasonable decisions regarding HIS car.

thank you slidestar...yea im gonna try to talk to her tonight

just talk to her reason w/ her tell her that u feel very strongly about having a manual. a couple of questions though did u buy the car? do u pay insurance? how dependant are u on her? if u are pretty self reliant you will have a better chance of winning. and if she says no after u plead w/ her then just go take a 7 day drinking binge and forget about it

lol, same problem here, but i just did everything to my car without my parents knowing, but i wasnt hiding anything. Just tell them all the plans you have for your car, mine didnt believe me, they told me, "If you can get it on your own, go ahead, because we aint payin for it" So i fake wined and then i just started buying stuff for my car. And said that it was a lot of money. HAHAHA and then all of a sudden i come with rims, muffler, air filter and lsd, all exited and i tell em "Check out what i got!!!!!!!" They dont like it and they think im crazy. But at least my dads into it. I told him about the lsd, how it helps me in the rain and blah blah blah, and he backed me up on that one. when they saw it, it wasnt that much of a drastic change, til i crashed, lol. But explain to her how it can help you. And if your going to buy it there shouldnt be a problem. If i were you i would change the tranny without her knowing it, i dont think shell notice til she gets inside the car and you start shifting.

oh and how much did you pay for your exhaust? My parents accepted everything i got, because i got it cheap. My mom likes to get everything on sale or free, so she was actually proud of me when i told her that i saed money. My rims were free, and exhaust $20. So she didnt mind. When i installed my exhaust, i had the silencer on before i got home, that way my folks didnt know. When my mom saw the exhaust, she freaked out, and then i told her, it increses mpg and it doesnt make sound. So she was allright with it. After a while, when they were used to it, i took the silencer off, and know they dont care. For them it helps out cause they know when i get home ;). So if you install the exhaust keep the silencer on when your around your folks. If your going to lose their trust, lose it little by little, not all at once. After a while you just might do everything you want to, maybe.

OH and i know how you feel monooxide, LIFE DOES SUCK!!!!!!!!! We just have to rough it out. Start worrying about other little problems, that way the big ones dont seem as bad, or vice versa or whatever. OH AND ONE LAST THING, have your moms name in the registration only. Unless you think shes gonna sell it. Because if you get caught for racing, theyll impound your car, as you all know, but since its your "moms car" and not "yours" you could take it out the next day and pay less by saying that she didnt give you permission to drive that day. Since im part owner of my car, i have permission anytime i want to, so i hhave to wait the 30 days. Anywho, just a heads up for the problems down the road, if your dumb enough to do it.

dan look who did some street racing research

you should just buy all the parts you need first anyway...

Hey, get my avatar out of your sig newb!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha, jk! To tell you the truth, driving stick through traffic isn't that big a deal when you're used to it. I've done it for over 2 1/2 years. I used to drive through rush hour stop-and-go to go to work.

And once you get to an open road and you can rip through the gears, you look back at the traffic and realize it was all worth it.

theres a thin line between disrespecting your parents and reasoning with them. your car is a hobby. there's no reasonable argument against that unless you need to save money for other things thay may be more important to your future than a car.. the point about driving through a congested street, thats pretty lame. what if you need to slow down quickly in the rain?? you're gonna stop much faster with a 5speed than auto (i downshift to 2nd when i have to stop suddenly).. who cares about a busy street, you're perfectly safe there. its other times she should be concerned about.

that was a cloudy paragraph but the jist of it is that you're doing this instead of collecting baseball cards or butterflies. this just happens to cost money. the auto to 5spd swap in my opinion for you, will provide you with more safety than performance or anything else. that should be your main argument. next to that should be the fact that you can't improve your car's performance or integrity (mostly just small sports cars) with an auto tranny

if you plan on turboing then auto isn't the wisest choice but its possible

ah the noob is hijacking your avatar hahaha

I plan on buying all the stuff and when I have everything I'll take it to a shop to have it installed cause god knows having that thing out in my driveway for 2-3 days until its done. Thats a good idea the whole hobby thing im pretty sure I can get her to say oooook. Seeing that she let me go skydiving three times and maybe start my AFF this summer. I dont see how driving a 5-Spd is a big deal?

Oh yea....the Exhaust was 644.99 thats with Shipping(75)... 569.99 for the HKS Hi-Power 3.3" Piping

dunno about you guys but how would a stick make you stop faster.....they both stop just as good if ask me. A down shift wouldnt really matter if your clutch is in, you can decel faster but i mean stopping is stopping. Dunno someone tell something im missing. But as far as your situation. Just do what your mom wants, keep the money in the bank and let it gain the extra 5 dollars it would in interest till next year. THat way you can still have it done next year. Or spend the money on other shit for your car and then save up for the tranny next year, all in all i dont see the problem. I guess you just want the stick now as opposed to then. But yea i guess you'll just have to reason with them. Your parents seem to be a bit over protective. Are the only child or first child?? that may explain it.

First Child

Oh yea....the Exhaust was 644.99 thats with Shipping(75)... 569.99 for the HKS Hi-Power 3.3" Piping


that is so much $$$ for exhaust....

haha your parents are strict but if i was you i would just live with it. its only like a couple years probably before you can move out so just chill and save your money so you can just buy all the shit once your gone.
(oh and while your car is still stock, i would also try not to beat on it too bad cuz then when you want to fix it up its gonna be in worse shape)

when i used to live at home my parents didnt care what i did or spent on my car, just as long as i kept up the payments and insurance.

You find me the HKS Hi-Power that is 85mm for less then 569.99. Yea i wish my parents were less protective

dunno about you guys but how would a stick make you stop faster.....they both stop just as good if ask me. A down shift wouldnt really matter if your clutch is in, you can decel faster but i mean stopping is stopping. Dunno someone tell something im missing

something is missing. say you're driving 45mph and come to a yellow light with a traffic camera (which just happened to me not too long ago). if you just slam on the brakes, then thats all that is helping you stop. if you downshift quick enough, you have the engine AND the brakes helping you stop. what happened to me was i downshifted and let the clutch out real quick when i was breaking but still at about 30mph. think about that. 2nd gear at 30mph and decreasing. if you let the clutch out at 30mph in 2nd then you're gonna slow down pretty quick. chuki, i don't know if you have a 5spd (i thought you did) then give it a shot sometime.

your exhaust cost a lot of money bro. Im guessing you bought the entire exhaust system???? What comes with it? or is it a special exhaust??? I get all my stuff through my cousins, either free or cheap.

My dad told me not to get anything mroe than headers for my car. Look what I did. I just didn't listen to him. What can they say when its done and it works well?

The biggest thing with parents is when they can tell you don't know what you're talking about. They know when you don't know what you're talking about. They've been listening to you not know what you're talking about your whole life. So its not hard for them to spot. Keep learning and trust me, when you sound educated on what you want to do, they'll trust you more. I know, I've been there. My dad watched and learned when I put my turbo kit in because I walked aroudn the house talking about turbo trims, ar, explained how stuff worked on the kit, ect. Then he wasn't worried anymore because he knew I wasn't gonna F up my car.

3-4 months after i turn 18 im gonna start pieceing together a turbo kit...I dont thenk shell care about it...I could tell her I was going to Make a Turbo drive my A/C and she wouldnt care i think its something she hasnt told me is why she wont let me have a 5-Spd. but trust me low and behold i will have a 5-Spd this summer. my real dads already behind me.

You find me the HKS Hi-Power that is 85mm for less then 569.99. Yea i wish my parents were less protective


i can find you the apex gt 95mm for $440.00. what is so special about hks hi power that you would pay that much?

yes i have a 5 speed....but if im slamming on the brakes the clutch is through the floor till im stopped!!!!!! You must not of had to slam on the brakes, sounds like you just came across a red light.

you never downshift when you slow down or brake??

chuki im not following what u said

idk, i think its a rip off actually....apexi GT or N1 is cheaper and still just as good...

^^^^^^

u can also stop better in the rain wit a 5sp...i used to have an auto sentra and my tires would lock all the time...since i got my 240 they havent locked up once and i can stop quicker and in shorter distances

chuki, consider this. 2 5spd 240s are driving at 45mph (you and me beside eachother). we see who can stop the fastest (pretending i don't have the z32 brakes). you just slam on the brakes. i slam on the brakes and go to 2nd as quick as i can. i'm gonna stop before you do. its basically an engine brake. if i'm dumping the clutch downshifting in 2nd where the rpm would be about 3500 then the car is gonna slow itself down considerably faster than just stepping on the brakes.

That would greatly depend on the skill of the driver. When I F around, I can downshift and kick the back end out. That wouldn't be so great for someone who isn't expecting it. Esp if they hit the brakes really hard at the same time.

More so than what you have to brake with is how well you brake. The best brakes in the world along with a 5spd transmission, and a 2 way diff aren't going to mean shit if you don't know how to use them.

I dont get it whats the big deal with your mom. Its not like your asking her for money so u can do it. Your not going to raise the insurance (at least Im pretty sure it wont), and its all your money that your spending. I mean your the one that is going to be driving in the "most congested street in the world". I bet you I know why your mom doesnt want you to make it a 5-speed, its cuz she doesnt know how to drive stick and your car can always be used as an extra car just in case shit happens. Well thats my take on the only thing actually stopping you from doing it that makes any sense unless she knows how to drive stick in which case I dont know why shes doing it.

My step-dad can drive a 5-Spd...and dont put it past my mom if she needed a car she would definately try to drive it. The reason i bought the HKS Hi-Power...is that I like the fast that its deeper and nto as loud... to me thats worth it.

i dont think it would raise insurance because there would be no reason to tell your agent, right?

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