Hey-

I'm new to 240s, so please excuse any stupid mistakes I'm making. I also searched for a little and didn't find the answer.

My question is, is it possible to turbo a KA24DE, say, out of a 95 240? If so, would it be redonkulously expensive, and would I be better off financially swapping for a SR20DET or what? thanks for the input, sorry for the stupid question.

search yahoo for ka24de turbo kit

or go to greddys page

and try to use the serch funtion on the forums
youd be amazed at what you can find

yeah its a good option

lots of sites too only one i can remember right now is boostdesigns.com

the chepest kit ive seen is 2k-5k

Where exactly did you search? "KA24DE turbo kit" on google.com get's me 7,650 hits....mmm...I wonder if they exist...

Seriously, yes you can turbo the KA, it will cost around the same then swapping in an SR, you'll have about the same hp. It's all up to you, a basic turbo kit will run you 2 grand from www.boostdesigns.com, like orestes and november said.

bullshit you searched. And yes you can, there are many members here who have ka-t's. Dont be lazy, of course it is possible. You could turbo a geo metro if you really wanted to and had the money...

www.ka-t.org
www.phatka-t.com
www.boostdesigns.com

well nuff said lol. Good luck with it, and i suggest doing mass research on all stuff about the kits...and turboing in general.

ok, thanks.

so i guess the question is... in your opinions, what is the best way to go if you want a turbo 240? what is most economical?

most economical? log manifold with small turbo boosting 5 psi non intercooled.

so turbo a ka24de with a log manifold and throw a small turbo on, non kit?

again, sorry for the lack of knowledge.

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that would be the very bottom lowest smallest cheapest possible turbo kit. it all depends on what your plans are. how much hp are you shooting for?

jeez. performance cars are not in any way related with economics. They are the opposite of one another. Finish this turbo kit and you will see what I mean.

i'd like to autocross it... i was thinking in the range of 200-220ish... if it was possible...

Damn man, do you even have one? It says you got an Eclipse!

my cousin owns a 93 and is selling it. im considering whether or not it's worth it based on your responses... hence the 'pardon the lack of knowledge'

what does it matter to you?

I don't care, it's just that after you buy it, pay for regular maintenance, insurance and stuff like that, then think about turboing it.

i've got plenty of cash in the bank, and once i sell the eclipse, i'll have more than enough for a turbo. im just considering my options....

so is 200 - 220hp reasonable for a small turbo?

well to be honest i would do the sr swap, it sounds like less of a hassle for you. If your serious about this car, buy it there fun as hell in stock form. If the car is in to bad of shape you may want to rethink it. But if its in good working order make the purchase, you will be nothing but happy...if you take care of it. Remember it is 10 years old and has some wear and tear. Do research on the car and what you plan on doing to it, while you get accustomed to the feel of the car. I wouldnt just jump into modding it out. THere fun man, good luck if you get it, and if you do feel free to stay and chat about the car. I dont know how much experience you have with driving (hence i dont know you) but jumping from an fwd eclipse to rwd 240 is a huge difference. I bet you'll like the 240 better...yes im biased :biggrin:. Iv driven both cars although i only driven a gs eclipse.

thank you very much for your input, i'll let you know how it turns out :)

absolutely, infact it is VERY easy to attain that with just a simple turbo setup.

so, by 'simple turbo setup', what do you mean? an aftermarket manifold, turbo and dp, obviously, but are there required things besides that? i mean, is that just bolt on and boom, done? what about fuel delivery and electronics? just curious, the only experience i have in this area is supercharging (6psi) my father's miata, so pardon my lack of knowing what i'm doing, and thank you very much for your responses.

200whp is very attainable no matter which way you go.

Autocross, I'd do like a T28 setup. Nice little spooler that'll get you 220whp no problems. Along with a set of 370cc injectors and a SAFCII, you'll be making good power.

ok, so we're talking:
exhaust manifold
turbo itself
intake/piping/hardware
dp
injectors
s-afcii

is that a fairly accurate list, or is there much else involved? and i would guess those parts there would cost somewhere in the 1-1.5k range?

you would need to be intercooled for that hp. but you would be ok with cheap turbo/manifold/fuel management. thats a really reasonable hp number but you would still need some sort of fuel mgmt.

ok, thanks a lot... i'm going to see what he wants for it, and if it's reasonable, i'll go for it.

isnt that what the safc would do. Or do you mean he might want to get a fuel pump or something?? Well it may cost that or more, it depends on what you get. Brand new turbos are way more than used ones. But i wouldnt want a used turbo. Not that there bad you just dont know wtf its been through. I would check out the boost-designs stage 1 kit. THat should be good to get you off the ground. Then upgrade accordingly. The stage 1 kit would probably satisfy you for the time being. With auto-cross you would want to spend some money on suspension also maybe a LSD too. I wouldnt dump all of it into just the engine if your auto crossing. 240's have some huge body roll at stock form...due to there 4x4 stock ass lift kit. I hate that shit. One of my friends(complete noob to cars) actually thought i was making it a rally car cuz they sit so high stock lol. I was like fuck no dude lololol had me rolling for a good 5 minutes though.

o yeah i didnt mean to say that. safc2 should be cool. if i was gonna turbo for more hp i would want more electronics and more gauges and nifty wideband and whatnot but just the basics is cool for 200-220 hp.

I would list everything, but I've listed it like two million times now.

i think he should be able to list it himself if he truly wants to turbo. He should know how it works, not just say he wants to turbo because all the cool kids do it....

I would list everything, but I've listed it like two million times now.
hahaha, indeed.
turbo itself
exhaust mani. and downpipe
spark plugs would be a good investment
bov (remember you will most likely have to get a kit to weld to your cold or hot pipe, whichever one you choose so you can bolt it on)
wastgate(assuming the turbo you get isnt going to be internally wastgated)
intercooler + piping
255lph walbro fuel pump
turbo oil lines
gaskets for turbo to exhaust manifold ect ect.
370cc injectors (these are drop in if you get them off of an Sr20det pretty cheap too)
---now you have two options either go with an ecu, which will save you alot of headaches or you can go a Little cheaper way and go with the safc II and maybe for timing an msd btm (boost timing master).
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ecu - go to boostdesigns.com - then go to electronics and scroll down to there enthalapy tuned ecu's
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safc II - me personally am going with a tuned enthalpy ecu, to cover both timing and fuel.
msd btm
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i think thats it.

well maybe

Fuel pressure regulator
fuel rail and z32 maf

fuel rail? why? 220 hp does not at all require an upgraded fuel rail, and like i said 370cc sr20det injectors are Drop In so you wouldnt have to purchase a new rail to fit them either .fuel pressure regulator is fine leave it unless it doesnt work right.

anyone know what the stock mafs maxes out at whp wise? i forget.

i think uit's like 250-280 something like that. Z32 is like 450whp, maybe.

err sorry i like shiny things

err sorry i like shiny things

huh?

huh?


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Re: KA24DE turbo (Post #29)

I would list everything, but I've listed it like two million times now.
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Pretty much. maybe even like a thousand billion. but seriously...


err what is this talk of shiny things?

i was talking about the fuel rail but he said it wasnt needed

he lika da blingy yo!

Or you can just do a FMU setup and forget the SAFC and 370cc injectors.

If you plan to do the SAFC, get a wideband. You're gonna need it.

safcII ~ 325
fmu ~ 125
msd btm ~ 300
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enthalapy tuned ecu $550 with shipping
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550

ecu = straight foward / near everything fuel & timing wise taken care of
in the end ecu>safcII/btm/fmu

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