alright guys, i need all of your help here... i'm looking to get as much information possible on the 200ZR/ rb20det.. anything from stock specs to perfomance upgrades, visual upgrades... parts for the skyline rb20det... anything that might even come in remotely handy.

anything you can find is much appreciated

http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~ranfa/GALLERY/pics/200zr-41.jpg
so freakin sexy looking


try some of these links :
http://www.computan.on.ca/~aldunbar/300Zspec.htm

DZ get hold of RedNeck383. He's got the RB20DET in his 240Z and it's a runner.

i thought it was an sr20? i'll talk to him tho, i think i remember seeing a link in his sig about rb20's and stuff... thanks

damn right it's sexy extreme... that's a pretty common (if not stock) body kit and i must say it's one of the best looking i've seen for that style of 200zr/300zx... if the one i find doesn't have it on it, i'll be sure to find one if they're still made...

so far i've found out that the difference between the skyline rb20det and the 200zr rb is a top mounted ic for the 200, compared to the fender mounted ic for the skyline, and different ecu's... both of which i'd take care of pretty quickly after i got the car.... tmic doesn't seem like a very efficient option... too much heat coming off of the engine, even with the hood scoop (fully functional :))

Nah, I've got SR20... lil 4 banger.

Maybe I'll do an RB 240z next... who knows.


200ZR is a sexy beast, only way I'd drive a Z31... no offense.

http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~ranfa/GALLERY/pics/200zr-31.jpg
http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~ranfa/GALLERY/pics/200zr-21.jpg

My bad...I though you had a RB in your 240 Matt and I've seen pictures of it....

so the 200ZR comes stock with that little body kit on it??? thats awesome...

anyways, drop the top mount IC and put a nice front mount...is the radiator still mounted under the bumper or is it in standard position on the 200ZR??? if it is where the 300ZX's radiator is, put the radiator where it would normally be, and put the intercooler where the radiator was. then get a custom nose panel done up to get air to the radiator.

the rest isnt really car specific, i would just through the steps of modding almost any turbo car...

can i suggest you get a black, red, or white one??? i think those are the sexiest colors on the Z31 chassis. make sure you get the 87-89 ones too with the different taillights and things...

thanks guys.. redneck do you know of anyplace that sells parts for the rb20det/200zr? actually if anyone did that'd be great!

yeah k3 i'm definitely looking for a black one... if i can't find a suitable one in that colour i'm not sure what i'll go... i'm not a huge fan of the red, but i do think the white is pretty good looking, i really really like the platinum ones tho, they're damn sexy;)

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/154609200zr1.JPG

i really really like the platinum ones tho, they're damn sexy;)


oh yeah...that Z is drop dead gorgeous, i think someone around here has a platinum silver Z, just cant place my finger on it...hmm...oh yeah, i got one of those. :lol:

anyways, yeah...i like black better though. that body kit on that silver one is stock or no??? i have never really seen a good looking body kit for the Z31 but the pictures on this page make it look very sharp. where do i get my hands on one???

i don't think the one on the silver one is stock... but the one on the black one is very very popular... i'm thinking it was an aero package option, or just very widely used body kit...

i don't think the one on the silver one is stock... but the one on the black one is very very popular... i'm thinking it was an aero package option, or just very widely used body kit...

hmm...the only thing i have seen as far as body kits go that look good on the Z31 is a carbon fiber lip that i saw on ebay straight for japan. but you guys are posting some awesome pics of some Z31's...has anyone seen these body kits for sale or do i have to book a flight to japan???

yeah those ones u see alot like on that black one are stock but the one on that silver one is deffinately not stock, its a "skyline" body kit

and oh yeah has anyone said that 200zrs are dead sexy

lol everytime i look at it


getting a 200zr would be awesome just cause it would be diff from everyone elses z31 maybe someday ..

i may re-consider swapping a RB20 in mine if i can get a hold of one of those 200ZR front bumpers and side skirts...:evillol: but then again, i really want my next car project to be a FC TII but then again i may need to buy a bike instead of anything else because of rising gas prices...maybe a ducati or an aprilla (or whatever)...:cool:

delerious, another interesting thing i think i ran across a while ago about the 200ZR's...

-i have read an upgrade for the RB20DET on the 200ZR is a R32 GT-S turbo...and i also read something about the 200ZR's turbo being ceramic, this may be the reason for changing to the R32's turbo. just another idea that i ran across...im not even sure what kind of turbo the RB20 in the R32 GT-S has but it must be a little better.

-also another thing to consider, no more of that "soft" suspension of the Z31 300ZX, the 200ZR has a different suspension system making it more performance oriented and stiffer.

hmm interesting k3 ceramic turbo that would be awesome im gonna try and read up more on the 200zr just kind of hard cause i dont speak japanese lol gotta translate webpages

yeah, i've heard something about the turbo's being different as well, i wasn't sure if it being ceramic was better or what... i've just been reading that it spools up faster than the regular metalic turbo? maybe al or broke could help us out here....finding the stock rb20 skyline turbo might be a bit of a hastle, and pretty costly.. as will most modifications be..

ah, here we go...

"Ceramic turbine blades are lighter than the steel blades used in most turbochargers. Again, this allows the turbine to spin up to speed faster, which reduces turbo lag."

i've also read on another site that's completely unrelated to automobile turbochargers that ceramics are prone to microcracks, which cause it to become brittle, but this was overcome by modern technology... i'm just wondering how modern :p

good to hear of the tighter suspension... definitely to my liking :D what site did you find that on?

well on this site (pretty helpful) it says that he upgraded to the larger 'HCR32' r32 gts-t skyline turbo so i'm guessing it's just a little larger and has better flow characteristics or something...also it's got better shaped seats that hold you better... and oh this is new to me... there's the 200ZR-I and 200ZR-II, the -I having no t-tops or power accessories, compared to the -II having the t-tops and all that fancy stuff... i'm thinking the -I would be a better platform to start for a heavily modified car, but t-tops are almost too good to give up:D

and as i had feared, it's only putting out about 177hp and 166 ft lbs at the flywheel... so it will take a bit of modification until i find it's up to par with what i was hoping for... but i'm sure it will react well to any sort of upgrades... it would be nice to see some dyno sheets from different rb20's and what modification had been done to get it there... oh well, i guess i'll just have to settle for it being one of maybe 5 in canada :)

oh yeah here's the site... http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~ranfa/myfairlady-e.htm

Rb20's take well to mods... Good little motors.

Swap out to a Greddy Intake manifold, and a highflow turbo manifold and full turbo back 3" exhaust to the muffler of your choice. And a electronic boost controller. You're looking at 300hp range with a fresh motor.

Also a Front mount Intercooler, and a bigger radiator would help. Electric fans instead of the old one would help free some power. Powersteering and A/C pumps could be ditched for a few more horsepower/weight. But I'm sure you kids like your little "fancy" stuff.

Rb20's take well to mods... Good little motors.

Swap out to a Greddy Intake manifold, and a highflow turbo manifold and full turbo back 3" exhaust to the muffler of your choice. And a electronic boost controller. You're looking at 300hp range with a fresh motor.

Also a Front mount Intercooler, and a bigger radiator would help. Electric fans instead of the old one would help free some power. Powersteering and A/C pumps could be ditched for a few more horsepower/weight. But I'm sure you kids like your little "fancy" stuff.

yeah that's peachy and all, but where in the hell am i going to find this stuff?? parts for strictly japanese cars are kind of hard to find over the pond... especially when it's not a skyline, fc, or silvia...

ps is staying, as is ac.... i've owned 2 cars in the summer here with no ac... and it gets HOT... we're talking from 90-100 degrees on the bad days... no ac+black car+sitting in traffic=severe case of heat stroke/dehydration... GREAT FUN

any idea what sort of boost numbers i'm looking at when upgrading? hell what are the stock boost numbers for that matter:p but 300 hp from ~2 grand sounds like fun to me:D

yah thats the site i been to before thats the translated version though which is good since japanese is my weak point lol good info though

well i'll be god-damned.... even if it is for the skyline, it's still got TONS of usefull info on it...

www.rb20det.com (http://www.rb20det.com) .... DUR!! ugh!

lol lookie lookie i have that bookmark too guess i shoulda just looked at all my bookmarks i coulda posted that but yah theres some good info on that site

... Have you tried Ebay?

RB parts are all over Ebay... Intake manifolds, Exhaust manifolds. Motors... Turbos... Injectors... ECU's...

I saw a Mine's RB20DET ECU on there once.

It's good shit.

all i can find on there are the SHITTY ssautochrome ones... one good quality exhaust mani.. other than that, not a whole lot.... looks like i might be doing quite a bit of fabrication for modding this thing...

all i can find on there are the SHITTY ssautochrome ones... one good quality exhaust mani.. other than that, not a whole lot.... looks like i might be doing quite a bit of fabrication for modding this thing...

do some searching...there are alot of companes out there that stock performance and OEM parts for SR's, RB's, and even KA's...as well a other motors for different manufacturers. i know rbmotoring or motorex carries aftermarket and OEM parts for japanese motors but i rumor says motorex went down the drain.

anyways, your looking at alot of power once you start modifying. and delerious, take a closer look at that site. next to the power ratings for the engines he posted, some of the thigns in parenthesis said something different. i think that nmber was to the wheels.

So how's this 200zxr search comming ?

dropped it and got my 88 turbo... realized that the 200zr wasn't worth it, even for the 200zr-II with the nicer seats and better suspension, because i'd be losing a whole liter of displacement...

another thing that i've just recently (as in today) found out is that the z31 platform came with the vg30de in japan from 86-88 under the trim name '300zr' so if someone was looking to swap in the twin cam engine (who knows why) into their z31 all they would have to do is find the crossmember from a 300zr and they'd be set....

D!!....what are ya doin, man!? If you do decide to go through the grueling, complicated process to convert to the NON VG30ET LOVING GUY, I have FIRST DIBS on your engine...

What's the build date of your car?

Now...a nicely built VG with a 200ZR body kit would be the hotness...but maybe that's just me...

me swap??? wtf? hell no sir... not a chance... unless it was the vg34et ;)

anyway for body stuff i'm looking at either the tbo or ss replica lip from mr. gary molitor.. either that or that oh so sexy kaminari kit that's not made anymore for the time being... also looking at a group buy for some wheels at the moment... some 18x8.5 f's and 18x9.5 rears... surprisingly the 18" actually looks freaking amazing on the z31 depending on the style... most of the one's on az-zbum's wheel show aren't all that great but i've seen pics of z31's with the same style of 18's as the ones i'm looking at and they are teh sex...

this is all after i get the turbo in and so on...

this threads super hella old lol... hell would freeze 3 times over if you EVER heard k3 call the z31 a beautiful car nowadays

That's good, man. I didn't realize that the thread was so old.

lol...that's good shit man. And it's made even better since your reply to my post showed up before my post...lol

this threads super hella old lol... hell would freeze 3 times over if you EVER heard k3 call the z31 a beautiful car nowadays

haha....the good ole days! Z31...blasphemy! j/k man. the 200zr's are friggin sweet. i just dont know what happened to them from the time they left port in Japan to arriving stateside. :)

the funny thing is on the stock body of the 200zr the fenders are less flared than the 86+'s on the 300zx's so they don't look quite as good in stock form... also they're teh hella slow in stock form as well.. the 200zr with the rb20det that's in there is only making 175 hp and 16someodd ft lbs... which is only 15 hp more than the n/a 300zx and approx the same torque...

the only thing really better about them is the sport tuned suspension and nicer seats... other than that i'd rather have my 300zx

the funny thing is on the stock body of the 200zr the fenders are less flared than the 86+'s on the 300zx's so they don't look quite as good in stock form... also they're teh hella slow in stock form as well.. the 200zr with the rb20det that's in there is only making 175 hp and 16someodd ft lbs... which is only 15 hp more than the n/a 300zx and approx the same torque...

the only thing really better about them is the sport tuned suspension and nicer seats... other than that i'd rather have my 300zx

and...ill take the RB20 powered 200ZR. who care how quick it is stock, who keeps a Z stock?

well, seeing as it's the NICS ecu system compared to the newer ECCS ecu system, you'd have to do a hell of a lot more to it than you'd think when it came to tuning time...

and who wants to deal with a litre less of displacement when trying to spool a big turbo...

well, seeing as it's the NICS ecu system compared to the newer ECCS ecu system, you'd have to do a hell of a lot more to it than you'd think when it came to tuning time...

and who wants to deal with a litre less of displacement when trying to spool a big turbo...

blasphemy...

400rwhp on stock internals is all i need. quick, easy, and cheap!

you can go rebuild your VG. but cars are all pointless when it comes to speed. buy a rocket...they have more speed than you could ever need.

uh yeah... the vg can make 450rwhp on stock internals... so so much for your theory...

crotch rockets are boring... they just go fast...

uh yeah... the vg can make 450rwhp on stock internals... so so much for your theory...

crotch rockets are boring... they just go fast...

huh? boring? until you go down a twisty road as fast as possible doing well over 120mph around curves with your knees coming with in cm's of the pavement and then coming into the straights full throttle approaching redline at 14k rpms in 5th gear doing over 160mph when you start slow down for the next curve you drop it down to 4th and start your turn in.

or how about getting on the highway and dropping it down to 2nd or 3rd and clutching the hell out of bringing the front wheel up to 11 o'clock and riding it for the next mile.

or how about slicing traffic at twice the speedlimit as your approaching downtown chicago. weaving in and out of 4 lanes of busy traffic along with 10 other bikes, just trying to go as fast as possible for no apparent reason.

how are they boring? you can cruise, do tricks, go fast, pick up women, etc. rockets arent boring, cars are boring and slow. i have realized, sinking thousands of dollars into making your car as fast as possible is about pointless when you can just buy a rocket. im not syaing i want a slow car...but i just want something more practical as in bigger rear seats, still draws attention, classier, can be modified rather easy. hence my attention being drawn closer to the Audi S4 in the next year or so. we will see how much i could use a more practical car than the Z, how much i could use AWD, how much i could use the Audi comfort and luxury, and how much i could use a daily driver car instead 2 weekend vehicles.

travis, you just need to get on a bike and see how its like. there is absolutely nothing not to love.

no, you see that shit is stupid... riding your ass of on the street is not only stupid, but it's extremely dangerous both to you and to any poor sucker who's along that same stretch of road... wheelies are kind of stupid if you ask me... only creating an unsteerable 300lb+ hunk of steel rocketing down the road waiting to run over someone...

and slicing traffic, well you'd have to be fucking stupid to keep that up.. not that you will much longer after they take your lisence away for longer, not that that'll stop you anyway.

also, i don't know why you got into any of it, but for me it cirtanly wasn't for the women.. i love cars because they're my passion... learning about them, working on them, talking about them with others who share the same passion is why i do it... besides, 95% of tire biters are sluts to begin with.


i don't know about you, but i value my life and well being.. i'm cirtainly not going to risk that trying to show off doing stupid tricks

no, you see that shit is stupid... riding your ass of on the street is not only stupid, but it's extremely dangerous both to you and to any poor sucker who's along that same stretch of road... wheelies are kind of stupid if you ask me... only creating an unsteerable 300lb+ hunk of steel rocketing down the road waiting to run over someone...

and slicing traffic, well you'd have to be fucking stupid to keep that up.. not that you will much longer after they take your lisence away for longer, not that that'll stop you anyway.

also, i don't know why you got into any of it, but for me it cirtanly wasn't for the women.. i love cars because they're my passion... learning about them, working on them, talking about them with others who share the same passion is why i do it... besides, 95% of tire biters are sluts to begin with.


i don't know about you, but i value my life and well being.. i'm cirtainly not going to risk that trying to show off doing stupid tricks

i have never purchased anything for the women but it is definitely a plus. and yes, most are tire biters but there are a limited number that are very appropriate girls.

wheelies are not that big of a deal. you have alot more control than one would think. is it dangerous, yes. is it risking my life, yes. but im sorry...im gonna ahve fun. and for me, having fun in a vehicle usually means pushing the bar. im not a conservative person, this is where we are very different.

motorcycles are not as dangerous as you think. i worry more about the old gentlemen in the car that shouldn't have his liscence and is mroe of a risk on the road pulling out in front of me or cutting me off than me losing control while riding a wheelie.

is riding a motorcyle the way i do, dangerous? very much so. but i didnt buy a balls to the wall performance machine to pussy foot around town and "look" cool.

as far as slicing traffic, i only do it on an appropriate highway like RT 80 beings there is a huge barrier dividing Northbound and Southbound traffic and it is an 8 lane highway. i also do it in large groups of people not that it really matters but it does make you more noticeable.

as far as riding around curvy roads pushing the limits, i am thinking about one in particular. VERY limited traffic on this backroad that cuts behind my area.

the point is, i do use my brain when doing what i do but to me...im not an idiot but i do push the limits.

also, when i do wheelies it is usually on what as bikers refer to as Eastgate which is a huge long straight road in the industrial park late at night. which means, no traffic, no people, no nothing except for us bikers.

to everyone, go out and have fun. if that means laying your life on the line and thats what you want to do. do it. to me, i wouldnt trade the thrill of a motorcyle for anything.

and travis, wait till i get my ZX10. thats when things will get crazy! :)

no, you see that shit is stupid... riding your ass of on the street is not only stupid, but it's extremely dangerous both to you and to any poor sucker who's along that same stretch of road... wheelies are kind of stupid if you ask me... only creating an unsteerable 300lb+ hunk of steel rocketing down the road waiting to run over someone...

and slicing traffic, well you'd have to be fucking stupid to keep that up.. not that you will much longer after they take your lisence away for longer, not that that'll stop you anyway.

also, i don't know why you got into any of it, but for me it cirtanly wasn't for the women.. i love cars because they're my passion... learning about them, working on them, talking about them with others who share the same passion is why i do it... besides, 95% of tire biters are sluts to begin with.


i don't know about you, but i value my life and well being.. i'm cirtainly not going to risk that trying to show off doing stupid tricks

:iagree:

IF you crash on a motorbike, your pretty much dead at anything over 70kph. Crash at that speed in a car and chances are your going to be fine.

:iagree:

IF you crash on a motorbike, your pretty much dead at anything over 70kph. Crash at that speed in a car and chances are your going to be fine.
i was doing about 45mph when i crashed mine...and came out with a scratch on the knee and thats it. my clothes were pretty mangled but i didnt even have a lick of road rash.

it all depends...there are alot of biker accidents that people dont die that probably should and there are alot that you wouldnt think would die and the do.

guy we ride with locally just died on his. rear tire hit a curb and he lost control, lungs filled up with blood on the way to the hospital.

but then a guy i also ride with was doing a wheelie at about 100mph and a gust of wind knocked him into the center divider and he walked away with some bad road rash and a broken arm. not good but trust me, it should have been alot worse.

yeah.. laying down the bike and doing a few rolls you can be going pretty fast... as long as you're wearing the proper gear you can lay it down and not do too much damage...

for example my buddy that went to alaska and back laid his bike down doing 110 kph, did a few rolls, got up and rode on with nothing more than a bruised elbow and a scratched up bike..

the trouble comes when you lay it down and slide into oncoming traffic or in front of traffic that's going with you.. or if you happen to slide into a pole or something.


but the point is jason you shouldn't even be riding in the first place... i mean you're not even lisenced for it... or insured

yeah.. laying down the bike and doing a few rolls you can be going pretty fast... as long as you're wearing the proper gear you can lay it down and not do too much damage...

for example my buddy that went to alaska and back laid his bike down doing 110 kph, did a few rolls, got up and rode on with nothing more than a bruised elbow and a scratched up bike..

the trouble comes when you lay it down and slide into oncoming traffic or in front of traffic that's going with you.. or if you happen to slide into a pole or something.


but the point is jason you shouldn't even be riding in the first place... i mean you're not even lisenced for it... or insured

thats where you are wrong. i am insured!

but yeah, i wasnt wearing the proper gear when i wrecked mine but when i am acting crazy and doing high speeds, i am always wearing my helmet atleast. i did alot of rolling and not alot of sliding, this is probably why i had the lack of road rash. but i also didnt go sliding and rolling across the road. i skipped through the grass, hit a little sidewalk, and more grass, and then i hit a sign.

anyways man...to each his own. ill turbo my ZX10R. looking at the muzzy stage 1 turbo kit but the stage 3 takes it to 500hp. :evillol:

i did alot of rolling and not alot of sliding, this is probably why i had the lack of road rash. but i also didnt go sliding and rolling across the road. i skipped through the grass, hit a little sidewalk, and more grass, and then i hit a sign.

I don't know if you crashing a bike really counts because even off the bike you break yourself.

hahaha oh that's a low blow :D

hahaha oh that's a low blow :D

He's still on pain meds, he won't feel it.





























:D We're just fuckin with ya K3.

:lol: you guys are oh so funny...