ok what is the dirrerence in buying a cat back and just getting custom pipes and then buying a muffler? would performance levels be about the same. and which would cost more or would they be about the same

I think making custom pipes and then buying a muffler is way cheaper. I say from experience that the custom pipes to me is a little faster then a cat-back system. The custom pipes w/ muffler cost me $260 and the cat-back cost me $450.

w/ cusom pipe do u use a catalitic converter or not? or can u just use a test pipe?

1001 - Number of ways a muffler shop can fuck up an Exhaust

Including but not limited to

Ubar JDM downturned Muffler
Ubar JDM In-turned Muffler
Bat Shit Welds
One Peice from the Turbo Elbow
Mild Steel
11ty Billion Unessacary turns (for Ground Clearance)



My car came with one of those... I intend to buy a Yashio ASAP.

yes R.W. is right all custom pipes are not created equal.

yea if i but one im getting yashio. is the only place to buy those from raretrick.com?

Word to RW. My downpipe was rigged as hell. The downpipe I made at home with caveman tools and a unshielded wire feed welder came out better than their POS downpipe.

I recommend getting a bolt on catback. When you really get into modifying your car, it is nice to be able to remove the exhaust system in 10 minutes.

yeha thats a good point i have taken my exhaust on and off about 10-12 times now.

if you have the money, the catback is definately the way to go, and if you dont, save up, 3" with a good cat-back, test pipe and downpipe youve got all you need, and the ones from reputable brands are tuned for sound and usually have fewer bends and longer straight shots for better performance and sound, because sound is very important too when it comes to exhaust. im working on recording my exhaust note and transferring it to my comp.

its not just about getting the job done, its about doing it right, and you can save so many headaches by buying a nice system that you can put on it 45 minutes, take off in the same time, and is designed for the car.