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chexmixa 04-14-2005, 07:16 PM Damp i am very doubtful of your claims. sorry hurry up and get all you go fasts on yer car and give me some times :). BTW no i wont give you money to hurry you up :P dampachi 04-14-2005, 07:16 PM 245 to 315 is a huge leap. and yeah..03 cobra rims. in satin. dampachi 04-14-2005, 07:19 PM Damp i am very doubtful of your claims. sorry hurry up and get all you go fasts on yer car and give me some times :). BTW no i wont give you money to hurry you up :P eh..it's probably not doubtfulness..probably just jealousy. Mr. Luos 04-14-2005, 07:28 PM 245 to 315 is a huge leap. and yeah..03 cobra rims. in satin. I know. But like I said, you have to make sure you have the tire on the ground. I can put a 315 on my rims, but it won't give me much more actual contact patch than my 275's. Sidewall starts bowing. That is why I was asking about your rims. Wasn't sure what you could fit on the stockers. And man, I ain't jealous. :smokin: I see your Vortech, and raise it a stroker. :icon16: Like I said before, I hope you prove me wrong. -The Stig- 04-14-2005, 07:45 PM Damp.... you say you street race and you don't want to give away any 'secrets'? You ran a 14.6... what secrets can you have?:lol: Not talkin down on ya man, but c'mon... you can't Bullshit a Bullshitter. I've got a PHd in the field. ZackKVtec 04-14-2005, 07:47 PM hey buddy, if it was jealousy he probably would have said something like this Damp i am very jealous of your claims. get off your high horse and run an 11, until then, your still in a mid 14 second car - that handles like a mako. -The Stig- 04-14-2005, 08:03 PM Amen. dampachi 04-14-2005, 09:23 PM Just letting you know...if I was worried about people knowing my setup..why would I post my quarter mile times and not be worried about that? Hell I might change that shit to '14.9@94mph'. BTW: I wasn't saying you're jealous, Mr Luos..you're cool as shit and ain't got nothing to be jealous of. If anything I'm jealous of your car. Sticky 04-14-2005, 09:24 PM Just put the damn supercharger on and tell us how fast you ran. I'm going to side with the majority though, 11's is a pretty big drop in time. TheStang00 04-14-2005, 09:28 PM how much psi do you plan on running? dampachi 04-14-2005, 09:30 PM hey buddy, if it was jealousy he probably would have said something like this get off your high horse and run an 11, until then, your still in a mid 14 second car - that handles like a mako. Whoa there buddy. Don't talk down on mid 14 second cars or cars that don't handle so well. Remember..you have a supercharged GSR. Probably running mid 14s. And I doubt it handles like it's on rails..so yeah. dampachi 04-14-2005, 09:33 PM how much psi do you plan on running? 8psi. Sticky 04-14-2005, 09:54 PM I just asked a friend about someone he knows (I've met the guy) who ran 10 psi and managed a 12.2. I don't know what his 60' was though. Mr. Luos 04-14-2005, 09:56 PM Good luck my man. Keep us informed of the progress/install!! Zgringo 04-14-2005, 10:00 PM Mr. Dampachi, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you are cutting a 1.8@60' and turning in a trap time of 11.99 you have alot more power than you estimate. This just a example: If your car was setup perfect, the track surface perfect, had perfect tire combination and made a perfect launch, a 3500lb. car would need 450HP at the flywheel to run a 12.13@111.7MPH. Now with all said being perfect to drop your time to 11.12@122.2 you'd need to drop your cars weight 1,000lbs or increase your flywheel HP to 600. The faster you get the harder it is to obtain and the cost go's up real fast. Shut everybody up and go post a time and tell us what it is. I trust you, just tell us what you run. Don't be ashamed of driving a 12 second car. Your in the Viper class. But don't let your aligator mouth overload your canary ass. It'll only get you in trouble. There's a old saying, It's better to remain silent and make people wonder, than to open you mouth and remove all doubt. Peace brother, now go run a 11 for me would you? -The Stig- 04-15-2005, 03:39 AM Whoa there buddy. Don't talk down on mid 14 second cars or cars that don't handle so well. Remember..you have a supercharged GSR. Probably running mid 14s. And I doubt it handles like it's on rails..so yeah. They handle the same... '99 Mustang GT: .86 g '99 Integra GSR: .84 g '97 Integra Type R: .89 g '99 Mustang SVT Cobra: .88 g dampachi 04-15-2005, 09:43 AM 99/01 cobras handle like ass. try an 03/04. ZackKVtec 04-15-2005, 11:39 AM Damp, you like to underestimate other people's cars, but overestimate yours. I think you need to pick a side, your either going to be an optimist or a pessimist, dont be that herb who ups his shit but downs others.. thats not cool. I'm not saying I will, but im pretty sure the norm for sc gsr's is low 14, high 13. stock. Bolt ons bring that down even more. I guess i was just misinformed about the handling of Stangs, i always thought they were boats. Must be because you dont see too many stangs Autocrossing on speedvision, mostly rsx's, integras, porsches, bmws, stuff like that. By the way, i think my car feels like its on rails. GSR's have a pretty good suspension stock. -Josh- 04-15-2005, 11:56 AM I have a friend with a GSR, N/A he's got it running mid 14's with some engine mods. I'm sure a S/C GSR can hit the 13's with some other light mods. As for the whole 11's thing, i dont know if they have this saying everywhere but around here when someone's mouth is quicker than their brain we just say "put up or shut up." So just go to the track and let us know how you do, either way i'm sure it will be a damn fast car with the S/C. Polygon 04-15-2005, 12:07 PM Actually, the Integra has been called one of the best handling FWD chassis ever. Also, Mustangs do handle like pigs stock. I've driven a 2000 Cobra and it didn't handle very good at all. I'm pretty sure an Integra would have no problem out handling a Mustang. Just remember that skidpad numbers and slalom speeds do not tell you how well a car handles. Let's not also forget that the Integra is a much lighter car. -Jayson- 04-15-2005, 12:48 PM ive kinda been reading through this thread, its sounds like damapachi is getting a little over anxsious about the supercharger. Just to tell you straight out man, you wont get 100HP on 8 PSI. Expect that 8 PSI to add around 70HP at most. 65 would be more realistic. Simple because for one, its a centrifigal blower which means it only operates at about 60%-70% efficiency. That blower creates more heat than a roots type and consumes more power to turn. WIth my roots supercharger i saw 40HP gain on 4.5 PSI. Thats about 8.8 HP per PSI. Now im not saying with other mods you cant improve the efficiency of the blower some, and bring the cars HP up. But i dont think you will ever see more than 9-10Hp per PSI. dampachi 04-15-2005, 01:16 PM For one, the only cobra they made in 2000 was the cobra R. And if you drove that and think it handles like shit..then you're daily driving a ferrari or something. And just to tell you straight out man, I'll get over 100rwhp on 8psi. I'll show you guys somethings later. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I don't really care about handling..which is why I'm talking about 11 second quarter mile times rather than skidpads and slaloms. Polygon 04-15-2005, 02:38 PM For one, the only cobra they made in 2000 was the cobra R. And if you drove that and think it handles like shit..then you're daily driving a ferrari or something. And just to tell you straight out man, I'll get over 100rwhp on 8psi. I'll show you guys somethings later. Oh, and I'm pretty sure I don't really care about handling..which is why I'm talking about 11 second quarter mile times rather than skidpads and slaloms. I must be mistaken then, I drove my friends Cobra, it must be a 1999 Cobra. I know it isn't an R and it didn't come with the supercharger stock. He put one on it now but now he has it in the shop because he screwed up the engine on the dyno. The shop didn't put a fan in front of the car and it ended up overheating, then it lost oil pressure and power, and now it has a knock. I figure he threw a bearing. No matter, I told him to never take it to that shop again. Anyhow, enough of my rambling. I won't argue with you about the Mustang being a beast on the drag strip though. Show us your dyno graph when you get it on the dyno. TheStang00 04-15-2005, 03:32 PM I guess i was just misinformed about the handling of Stangs, i always thought they were boats. very comon... Gohan Ryu 04-15-2005, 05:35 PM I used to have a '73 Mach One that handled like a cruise ship. Probably the heaviest Mustang ever made but that 351C made it a monster. -The Stig- 04-15-2005, 06:38 PM 99/01 cobras handle like ass. try an 03/04. We're not talking '03/04 Cobra's now are we? We're talking a '99 GSR and a '99 GT. I only put in the Type R and SVT of those years as comparisons. You're just like 90% of the Mustang owners, soon as somebody remotely goes after your car, you yell out "03/04 COBRA!" as if it'll save you. But if you must... 2004 Mustang SVT Cobra: .90g 2004 Integra Type R: 0.89g Once again, they're so close... it's safe to say they handle the same. TheStang00 04-15-2005, 06:40 PM isnt this thread a little bit off topic... -Josh- 04-15-2005, 06:43 PM No. CivRacer95 04-15-2005, 06:46 PM dampachi 04-16-2005, 09:56 AM Well, you were using the 99 model cobra..which is probably the worst thing ford ever did with the name 'cobra'. It's slow, it falls apart, and despite it's IRS..it handles like a boat. And redneck..if I can't bring up an 03/04 cobra..then why can you bring up a 99 GSR (he has a 96) and a 99 mustang (i have an 02)? -The Stig- 04-17-2005, 03:20 AM I thought yours was a '99 Mustang... my bad... but nothing changed for those years... soo.. nevermind.. not my bad. :p ac427cpe 04-17-2005, 03:53 AM wait a second... are we talking about mustangs and the phrase "handles well" in the same sentance? in a NON-RACE PREPPED area? :wtf: as for a 390 hp and a 3200lb car... even with amazing R compound tires with sizing done perfectly... a perfect launch, minimal fuel and a perfect run... you'll probably dip into the 12's... you are also expecting too much from the tires. however, i look foreward to seeing some amazing dyno numbers on a healthy engine, and a timeslip :) Right_LiRrr 04-17-2005, 05:28 AM Hang on...what's the shame in running 12s?? My friend has spent 20K on his supra (granted only about 1/3 under the hood and granted it's aussie dollars...don't make fun of my country, man, or we'll come throw sticks and stones at you!) and he runs 12.3s. I really don't see the shame in running 12s after putting a s/c on a 14 sec car? It's hell fast!! But I for one would really like to see him do 11s even if it is 11.99. Automotive Network, Inc., Copyright ©2012
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