New 2006 Pics


Tony Stewart Fan
04-01-2005, 08:15 AM
I just saw a couple of the pics from the NY Auto Show of the new Charger that are really cool and thought I'd share one. I really like the way this car is shaping up.

http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/Yearglance/y454241a.jpg

theFREAKnasty82
04-05-2005, 02:55 AM
It's a damn sexy car, I wanna start saving up for the SRT-8 version

Tony Stewart Fan
04-05-2005, 09:51 AM
I think it's pretty great looking. It looks like it's got some real muscle, and it looks practical. It's hard to make a car look both, and I think they've done that.

NIN881
04-17-2005, 05:21 PM
I beg to differ. I have seen other pictures of it and I think dodge defiled that name once again. But, this time they tried to make it look like the cool one.

First, they decided to give it 4 doors. (4 doors on a charger! this is an outrage) Second, Why does every product that dodge comes out with have to have that dumb ugly grill. third, it is a sedan version of the magnum.

They did do somethings right. They gave it an agressive look and gave it the power it needs. 425 ponies. I like that! With the gas prices lately I don't know how well it will sell, usless they give support for E85. I would not give it so much grief if it was called something else. I love the 300C and this is the more agressive version of that. The 60-70's chargers had a meaness about them. This one looks like a skyline with an ugly grill.

Tony Stewart Fan
04-19-2005, 03:46 PM
The Multidisplacement System should help with the gas mileage of the car. Other than that, i think it looks really agressive and powerful while still being able to maintain a sense of practicality.

theFREAKnasty82
04-19-2005, 04:33 PM
though it's nothing like the original charger, like Tony Stewart Fan said, it gives you a sense of praticality and at the same time, muscle. This charger is 1000s times better than those god-awful "Chargers" of the 80s, a K-car w/ a 2.2 carbuerator and a turbo. That was a far cry for what the charger stood for, a big muscle car w/ big power. Just like Pontiac brought back the GTO, though it's not American mostly Aussie, they still stayed w/ the original format, 2-door muscle car w/ a powerful engine. The average buyer of these types of cars are gentlemen in the late 30s to early 40s. Most men at that age are married with a few kids. So, in addition to lighting the tires every now and then, John Q would like to haul his family around w/out having to squeeze the kids in the back w/ some 2-door midget. This is a car I would buy, though I'm in my early 20s, I would buy it b/c it looks great, have loads of power, a long history and looks more practical than a Dodge Magnum! Who needs a station wagon, correction, "sports tourer" as it is classified by the EPA?

Tony Stewart Fan
04-20-2005, 11:02 AM
The price points (http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0504/10/B01-142593.htm) came out for the Charger recently. It looks like it's going to be much more affordable than I ever imagined.

LindaP
04-25-2005, 08:57 AM
Hi everyone. My name is LindaP and I'm a Marketing Representative for the Dodge Information Center. I was following this thread and it sparked my interest. I may be able to add some clarity and information to your Charger discussion if you don't mind me jumping in...

BleedDodge
04-25-2005, 09:30 AM
Please do.

You could help us by doing us a favor. If you know Trevor Creed you could tell him that he needs to build a rear wheel drive V8 two door car to compete with the likes of Mustang. Then he'd really sell some cars...

Imagine how much business that DC has lost since they don't make a low-priced rear wheel drive V8 coupe? The only thing that comes close is a Viper and most people can't afford it. I'm a Chrysler person but I'll have to go over to Ford and get myself a Mustang just because my favorite company doesn't make me a 2 door car. I speak for many people, I'm not alone here.

LindaP
04-25-2005, 11:27 AM
Hi BleedDodge. Your user name alone speaks volumes about your loyalty to Dodge and it’s much appreciated. But, before you run over to your local Ford dealer, let me reiterate that your cries for a 2 door version of the new Dodge Charger are not going unheard. You are absolutely not alone.

Although I can’t speak on future plans or projects for the Charger or any DCX product at this time, I can say, and have said, that the creation of the Charger was a well thought out plan. The research that was conducted showed that our customers wanted a sporty, aggressive vehicle that incorporated functionality and convenience. That being said, it does not mean that there isn’t those of you who still want the sporty appearance that comes with 2 door or coupe vehicles and we do understand that.
The new Dodge Charger should be thought of as an innovative spin on coupe styling and 4 door functionality. It still houses the mighty 5.7L V8 Hemi with Multi Displacement System, which by the way, you are absolutely correct about, Tony Stewart Fan. It has a provocative look, power, WITH generous interior accommodations. Not to mention it’s affordable. Have you taken a walk around the vehicle? Pictures may not do it the justice that it deserves. The exterior styling was designed to play down the 4 doors by making the door handles flush and color keyed to the rest of the vehicle. The lines of the vehicle travel to a very sporty, coupe-like disposition. The product credentials compare to, if not outweigh its competitors.

Unfortunately, I do not have a direct line to Mr. Creed, but I’m sure everyone at DCX appreciates the feedback and the discussion on the 2006 Dodge Charger, negative or positive, so keep it coming. Hopefully, I’ve shed a little light on this very popular topic and I’ll be around if you have any other questions…Thanks.

Tony Stewart Fan
04-25-2005, 12:17 PM
I really like the practicality of the car. Combine that with the power and the aggressive look, and I'm really looking to see how this car perfroms on the market.

theFREAKnasty82
04-25-2005, 11:12 PM
Ms. LindaP, tell me one thing please, will there be a manual transmission version available at all? I'm a Dodge enthusiast to the core, I even work for a local Dodge dealer. The sales manager in my dealership tells me that the Charger is not available in manual. That, in my opinion is a slap to the face for the real Charger enthusiast who remembers a big 426 Hemi, w/a 4 on the floor. The sedan thing, I can live with, but an automatic transmission, please give us something to drool about, other than looks and available engines!

phaelax
04-25-2005, 11:20 PM
I looked at the r/t at the auto show in columbus, do not like it.

it is a sedan version of the magnum
exactly what i thought. I like the magnum actually, probably cause its not a 4dr sedan being called a charger. Though I do love the hemi power in it.

Tony Stewart Fan
04-26-2005, 08:49 AM
That's a good question about the manual transmission. I'll be interested to see what she has to say. Have you checked out those price points yet? Not too shabby.

LindaP
04-26-2005, 01:48 PM
Well, Mr. theFREAKnasty82, I’d love to you that all your hopes and dreams for the new Charger will come true, however there is some validity to the vehicle going to an automatic rather than a manual transmission. Again, research has shown, (and yes everything is built off of research), that the demand for manual transmission has decreased considerably over the years, especially with larger vehicles, unbelievably enough. The case to go to manual simply could not be supported. However, it is too early to elaborate on future product plans.
I’m sure you’ve all realized however, that the Charger has a 5 speed automatic transmission with Autostick®. Have you ever driven a DCX vehicle with this feature? It addresses the need for manual driving with a clutchless and convenient enhancement. This fully electronic transmission provides the enthusiastic driver the ability to hold gears for a more spirited driving experience.
The benefits to this type of transmission include improved performance and improved fuel economy. Again, extending to a wider market.
And yet again, you are correct Tony Stewart Fan, the pricing is not shabby at all making the vehicle even more attractive. It was priced competitively based on the features of the vehicle and NOT the name. It may not be what you had in mind, but there's something else to drool over... :-)
Thanks again, everyone!

BleedDodge
04-26-2005, 08:39 PM
That's totally totally false about how nobody wants manual transmissions anymore. I'll use the Mustang as an example again. The sales of automatic versus manual Mustangs doesn't even compare, everyone wants a manual. You can hardly find a GT Mustang that doesn't have a manual in it, it's just the way it is.

I already know what I'm going to do. In 2007 I'll go and get a lease-return 2005 Mustang GT with the 5 speed, for so cheap, and race any 4-door Charger I can find. Then we'll see how good that autostick is. I know for sure even without driving it that I'm going to have a far more spirited time with my clutch and five-gear than I would with that electronic shifter.

Lots of people, myself included, are starting to accept the fact that Mopar hasn't made any cars like this since 1974, and they're done with that idea, and that's just how it's going to be. That's fine, I'm not the only one who will walk away from Mopar.

theFREAKnasty82
04-26-2005, 11:50 PM
Well, Mr. theFREAKnasty82, I’d love to you that all your hopes and dreams for the new Charger will come true, however there is some validity to the vehicle going to an automatic rather than a manual transmission. Again, research has shown, (and yes everything is built off of research), that the demand for manual transmission has decreased considerably over the years, especially with larger vehicles, unbelievably enough. The case to go to manual simply could not be supported. However, it is too early to elaborate on future product plans.
I’m sure you’ve all realized however, that the Charger has a 5 speed automatic transmission with Autostick®. Have you ever driven a DCX vehicle with this feature? It addresses the need for manual driving with a clutchless and convenient enhancement. This fully electronic transmission provides the enthusiastic driver the ability to hold gears for a more spirited driving experience.
The benefits to this type of transmission include improved performance and improved fuel economy. Again, extending to a wider market.


I have driven a vehicle w/ Autostick, an Intrepid SXT, one hell of a car and ready to go when you want to go. Autostick is fine and all, but it's an automatic, it weighs more than a manual, thus fuel economy is not all that great; in fact, if you drive a manual just right, you can get better economy with it than an automatic. For an enthusiast as myself, I want to be able to rip through the gears and have full control of when I should shift. To me, that's where the spirited driving performance comes in. Autostick has a safety feature, I know with the Intrepid SXT, that at 6300 RPM, it automatically shifts; yes I know to prevent breakage and stop the idiot who's driving for ragging the piss out of the motor and tranny. I hope that there'll be a few number of Chargers that will come w/ an optional 6-speed manual in the near future. The pricing points are fine, in fact, I'm seriously considering trading in my 2002 Intrepid for an R/T and if I have enough money, an SRT-8.

theFREAKnasty82
04-26-2005, 11:52 PM
BleedDodge, you spoke like a prophet, I couldn't agree w/ you any more. As much as it pains me, if I want a sports car w/ a manual, I guess I'll have to go w/ either a Vette or Mustang or even a 350Z.

LindaP
04-27-2005, 10:15 AM
Hi again everyone! Okay, hold on…I didn’t say that there wasn’t anyone that didn’t want manual; I stated that there wasn’t enough support for it right now. I completely understand where you all are coming from, hopefully you all understand where I’m coming from and it’s not to say that it WON’T happen. I can’t predict that, but let’s give this some time. The Charger hasn’t even hit dealerships yet.
Your passion for wanting this vehicle your way really does say a lot about your enthusiasm and loyalty. Again, I wish I held that magic wand…Thanks so much, you guys!

BleedDodge
04-27-2005, 07:14 PM
Thank you. Please let us know if you need input from us, and let us know if you have new information to share.

theFREAKnasty82
04-27-2005, 10:39 PM
well, ma'am, please be our voice to your higher ups and let them know that there are serious car nuts who LOVE Dodge and the Charger and for what it stands for and tell them what we want in order to stay loyal fans. I'm sure you can make more headway than the sales manager at my dealership.

Tony Stewart Fan
04-28-2005, 09:03 AM
Although a manual transmission would be nice, I'll take the Autostick. If I can't have manual, I'll take the next best thing. there is simply no way at this point I will pass on a Charger, especially at the price it looks like they'll be going for.

theFREAKnasty82
04-28-2005, 11:02 PM
to me, the charger still won't be the same w/o a manual. Plus, you won't feel the power as much as you would with an automatic.

mr2envy
04-29-2005, 01:43 AM
that car looks so damn ugly there is no admirastion for the new chargers id take an old one any day one of my friends has one so damn nice

C/PO1 Schneider
04-30-2005, 10:11 AM
With 4 doors and a "semi-automatic" transmission, that is not a charger.

What Dodge should really do is call that a Coronet, which is much closer to what it really is, then make a 2 door with manual transmission and an even bigger hemi. Call THAT a Charger.

It's called common sense, and I haven't seen any of it coming out of any car manufacturer.

Tony Stewart Fan
05-01-2005, 03:54 PM
I'd love to have an old Charger as well, but I like what I see out of the new one. The price points are nice, and the practicality of it really is a drawing point for me.

Sticky
05-02-2005, 07:36 PM
I like the way it looks. Granted I'd perfer a two door (I'm only 17 going on 18) to the four. I do agree with the statement that the name Coronet does seem to apply more to the car.

I am curious as to what Dodge is going to do to compete with the Mustang, if at all.

theFREAKnasty82
05-02-2005, 10:58 PM
I love the Charger name w/ all my heart and this car is nice, but I want an available manual transmission so that I can rip through the gears. I think I sit and wait a while before I decide to buy this car until a manual comes out for it, either as an option or aftermarket.

BleedDodge
05-02-2005, 11:30 PM
Am I the only one who owns a mid-eighties Charger? I like the car because it's good on fuel but not for any other reason. Would you buy one of those too because it's called a Charger? Mine's a 5 speed...

theFREAKnasty82
05-03-2005, 12:24 AM
BleedDodge, no offense to you man, but personally, the "Charger" of the mid-eighties was the biggest piece of crap and an insult to the Charger name. Heck, that 2.2 carb turbo is bullet-proof, you can't kill it, but when I think of the word Charger, I think of a big 2 door muscle car with either a 383, 440 big block of the granddaddy of them all, a 426 HEMI. THAT'S a Charger, to me at least.

BleedDodge
05-03-2005, 11:06 PM
It's probably just as fast as some of those cars, haha.

I do understand exactly where you're coming from. I just hope everyone remembers that this isn't the first time that they stuck a Charger emblem on something unworthy of it.

theFREAKnasty82
05-04-2005, 12:14 AM
I personally don't understand why DCX is not keeping up w/ the other American manufacturers w/ a 2-door sports car. The new Ford Mustang is a huge success right now b/c it's retro-designed. The Pontiac GTO, though nothing like the original and not selling nearly as well as the Mustang, is still a crowd-pleaser b/c it's a 2-door muscle car w/ 2 doors and an available manual tranny. Now you have Nissan competing w/ their popular 350Z, Honda w/ the S2000, Mazda's RX-8; the numbers are speaking for themselves. It's obvious that people like 2 door sports cars w/ retro names, or else, none of the cars I've mentioned wouldn't be out on the market. I think Dodge needs to make a 2 door version of this new Charger; THEN, I will believe it, love it and WILL trade in my '02 Intrepid for that. To me, it'll be worth it for sure!

Tony Stewart Fan
05-09-2005, 08:35 AM
Have you all seen the new feature on the Dodge site where you can build your own Charger and price it? It's a pretty cool feature. Here's the link (http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/ModelSelector.jsp?vehicle=CHARGER&pid=u&adid=u&rid=u)

LindaP
05-09-2005, 02:41 PM
Have you all seen the new feature on the Dodge site where you can build your own Charger and price it? It's a pretty cool feature. Here's the link (http://www-5.dodge.com/vehsuite/ModelSelector.jsp?vehicle=CHARGER&pid=u&adid=u&rid=u)




Hi Tony Stewart Fan! Again the voice of reason…I have to thank you for suggesting the Dodge website. I am happy that you’re so familiar with the website. But, for those of you who aren’t as familiar, you can also compare vehicles and check out Dodge Charger specifications. As a matter of fact, there is an entire portion of the website devoted to the 2006 Dodge Charger (http://www.dodge.com/charger/). If you have any questions while you’re there, please let me know. In the meantime, enjoy and I’ll be around.

Tony Stewart Fan
05-10-2005, 08:15 AM
Thanks, I just thought I'd share that feature I found on the site. It's fun to fiddle around and build my own. I'm getting sort of antsy waiting for these to hit dealerships.

Jaguar D-Type
05-13-2005, 09:15 PM
While I think that Dodge should have made a new two-door Charger, the new Charger SRT8 looks better than the standard one. Forged aluminum wheels are nice.

information and pictures

http://fast-autos.net/dodge/dodgechargersrt8.html

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2005/134/dg2006charger1347341.jpg

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2005/134/dg2006charger1347337.jpg

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2005/134/dg2006charger1347336.jpg

http://photos.velocityjournal.com/images/full/2005/134/dg2006charger1347333.jpg

Tony Stewart Fan
05-16-2005, 04:49 PM
I like the pic right there under the hood. That's a shot I hadn't really seen yet. It does look pretty cool with the hood up. When are they gonna be available for sale at dealerships.

LindaP
05-17-2005, 10:06 AM
Hello Tony Stewart Fan,

My name is John and I’ll be your point of contact with the Dodge Information Center from here on out. As of right now the 2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 is expected to start appearing in showrooms from late fall to early winter. Stay tuned for more information!

Thanks,
John B.

tasattack
05-17-2005, 01:08 PM
I too felt daimlerchrysler has fled from the sexy lines of a 2 door coupe. I mean you can only find this in 3 models??!!! Viper, stratus, crossfire! It is disappointing to be, however i only drive a neon. Although what mazda has done with the rx8 the very suttle passenger doors is a good idea, yet it keeps its 2door sporty lines.

I have to admit, since the dawning of the 300c ive never looked at any care the same. I look at one of those as if i were looking at a viper, which is a rare auto in my city infested with hondas and gm's as i like to refer best as "roaches." Ive always been a fan of mopar since i can remember, ive never seen a design that has discusted me, but only make me wish i had a better life so that i could afford every new product that hits the market. ;) (from chrysler)

If a 300C could show a pissed off emotion, it would look something like the 06 charger. Excellent design.

Tony Stewart Fan
05-18-2005, 08:26 AM
If a 300C could show a pissed off emotion, it would look something like the 06 charger. Excellent design.

That's a great quote. I too think the Charger looks really agressive and strong. It has the practicality that I need in my life, but it also looks like it has a lot of power and speed, something I'm looking for in a car.

Jaguar D-Type
05-22-2005, 08:20 PM
New Charger SRT8

http://www.dodge.com/charger/img/main_image.jpg

Tony Stewart Fan
05-23-2005, 08:03 AM
That's a cool picture. I spent Saturday afternoon out looking at cars, and decided that I really want to see the Charger out on the road before I even consider another car. Hopefully it lives up to my expectations.

LindaP
06-10-2005, 05:09 PM
Hello again Tony Stewart Fan,

I’m more than confident that the Dodge Charger will more than live up to your expectations. As for seeing one and taking one out for a test drive, have you utilized the inventory search function on the Dodge.com website? On the main page type in your zip code in the ‘Find a Dealer’ box, this is located on the bottom left of the screen. A results page will come up with all the dealers within 25 mile radius of your zip code. Some dealerships will have an ‘Inventory Search’ button to the right of their name. It will then bring you to the dealership’s website where you can see what they have on their lot. This is a great way to find a vehicle in your area. Once you find what you’re looking for, give the dealership a call and schedule a test drive!

Again, I look forward to hearing your feedback on the new Dodge Charger.

I hope this helps!

John B.

Tony Stewart Fan
06-13-2005, 08:18 AM
Hello again Tony Stewart Fan,

I’m more than confident that the Dodge Charger will more than live up to your expectations. As for seeing one and taking one out for a test drive, have you utilized the inventory search function on the Dodge.com website? On the main page type in your zip code in the ‘Find a Dealer’ box, this is located on the bottom left of the screen. A results page will come up with all the dealers within 25 mile radius of your zip code. Some dealerships will have an ‘Inventory Search’ button to the right of their name. It will then bring you to the dealership’s website where you can see what they have on their lot. This is a great way to find a vehicle in your area. Once you find what you’re looking for, give the dealership a call and schedule a test drive!

Again, I look forward to hearing your feedback on the new Dodge Charger.

I hope this helps!

John B.

Thanks for the information. I have noticed the "find a dealer" spot on the website and have actually used it recently. I'm looking forward to finally test driving one soon.

Jaguar D-Type
07-12-2005, 07:05 PM
New Charger SRT8

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/images/srtgallery/05srtgallerychargerx_1.jpg

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/images/05srt_4.jpg

Tony Stewart Fan
07-13-2005, 05:07 PM
Those pictures are pretty incredible. It looks really aggressive, plus it looks like it'd be extraordinarily fast.

Goldenblade
07-29-2005, 03:55 AM
If I were such a hardcore Dodge enthusiast that I would want a brand new Charger with a manual transmission, I might be willing to pay the extra few thousand that it might cost to swap out the automatic with an after-market 5-speed manual.

Rather than passing the car up alltogether, if you know what I mean. :p

who fan
07-31-2005, 08:17 PM
I would like to thank Chrysler for bringing back the car. The charger is pure eye candy in a sea of blandness. The Ford Mustang is the only car that comes close to this. I could care less if its a four door. A manual transmission would be nice though.

I was wondering what a modern RWD would look like. I went to my locial Chrysler dealer layed down and looked up underneath it . The rear independant suspension looks impressive.

I recently watched the movie Bullitt. At the begining of the car chase it showed the Charger pull up, and parked idling before taking off. I thought wow what a car! I wish they still made them like this. The new Charger is as close as you can get this day and age.
With competition being what it is, the car company can`t afford not to be practicle. The four door thing is minor. The big three only have little over half the car market anymore.
GOOD JOB CHRYSLER!!!

Tony Stewart Fan
08-01-2005, 03:22 PM
I would like to thank Chrysler for bringing back the car. The charger is pure eye candy in a sea of blandness. The Ford Mustang is the only car that comes close to this. I could care less if its a four door. A manual transmission would be nice though.

I was wondering what a modern RWD would look like. I went to my locial Chrysler dealer layed down and looked up underneath it . The rear independant suspension looks impressive.

I recently watched the movie Bullitt. At the begining of the car chase it showed the Charger pull up, and parked idling before taking off. I thought wow what a car! I wish they still made them like this. The new Charger is as close as you can get this day and age.
With competition being what it is, the car company can`t afford not to be practicle. The four door thing is minor. The big three only have little over half the car market anymore.
GOOD JOB CHRYSLER!!!

The Charger has an Autostick feature to make up for the lack of manual transmission. That should appease some of the people out there.

taxman82
08-22-2005, 10:37 AM
Hi all,
Getting my new charger on tuesday, awesome piece of work, hemi has more than enought power and the car looks sweet as well as being practical. If you ask me Dodge hit this one right on. Looked at the GTO and was not at all impressed. That says a lot since I am usually very loyal to GM. Just my 2 cents

Taxman

Tony Stewart Fan
08-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Hi all,
Getting my new charger on tuesday, awesome piece of work, hemi has more than enought power and the car looks sweet as well as being practical. If you ask me Dodge hit this one right on. Looked at the GTO and was not at all impressed. That says a lot since I am usually very loyal to GM. Just my 2 cents

Taxman

Nice! You definitely have to post some pictures and tell us what you think. How do you like it so far?

taxman82
08-26-2005, 09:22 AM
Working on the pics when I get them I will start a new thread. This car is absolutely great alot of power and the gas mileage is pretty good.

Taxman

Tony Stewart Fan
08-29-2005, 08:17 AM
Working on the pics when I get them I will start a new thread. This car is absolutely great alot of power and the gas mileage is pretty good.

Taxman

Sounds great. Can't wait to see what yours looks like. Glad you like it.

tommychau
08-29-2005, 09:21 PM
When the SRT8 model comes out, you can get your wallet that the dealers is gonna tack on another 10-12 grand on top of the MSRP price as this will be one hot potato!

theFREAKnasty82
08-30-2005, 03:18 AM
The R/T Charger starts @ $30,000. I'd guess that the SRT-8 will list for around $40,000. But you have to wonder, that's the highest prices Dodge passenger car, excluding the Viper & Ram 3500 truck, around though it's gonna be popular, not too many can afford it.

Jaguar D-Type
10-29-2005, 09:16 PM
Charger SRT8

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/06.dodge.charger.srt.8/06.dodge.charger.srt8.whl.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/06.dodge.charger.srt.8/06.dodge.charger.srt8.eng.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/spinaroundtown/06.dodge.charger.srt.8/06.dodge.charger.srt8.r34.500.jpg

mayers85
11-07-2005, 06:36 PM
Wow ive been looking for a place to drop my opinion on this new dodge charger. Why ooo Why couldn't dodge make up a new name for this 4dr family car! To use the name charger is like kicking yourself in the butt! All muscle cars should be coupes! Why do you need muscle to take your family to the Mall or the movies. I guess its a good way of thinking hell I can now get a muscle car that hey... my family can use too this way my wife will let me get it! yea! woo hoo! ok so why not just make the charger the way it should of been and come up with a new name? I think car manufactures are starting to fall apart! You come to relize this also when a car reaches 5-8 years old and ends up in a auto shop because of electrical problems or the cpu is fried. The number one thing ive seen since working in the local shop is that most cars we get in have electrical problems or the car won't simply run because an error showed up on the board. Ive seen a 2003 Saturn Ion that had the keys locked in the ignition which then drained the battery. Whats not good about this is the car autolocks itself when the key is on! wtf right.. so we used a spare key to get in, charged the battery back up, tried to turn the car over but the key is still locked and errors are coming up on the dash stating low coolant, etc etc...the coolant was fine along with all the other codes it was giving. So we just sent the car back to the dealer to deal with. My point is with all these new computers running your car there are advantages yes but when a problem occurs with these systems prepare to open up your checkbook to write one big fat check!

Jaguar D-Type
11-07-2005, 08:14 PM
Dodge is going to make a new Challenger.

Likely Challenger: Dodge prepping a rear-drive coupe to take on Ford's Mustang

RICK KRANZ | Automotive News

Posted Date: 6/13/05

DETROIT -- Watch out, Ford Mustang. Dodge is preparing a challenger.

In fact, it's likely to be called Challenger.

Chrysler plans to resurrect a respected name from the pony car era for a rear-wheel-drive Mustang fighter, industry sources say. The car is expected in 2009 on the LX platform, the basis of the Chrysler 300 and Dodge Magnum and Charger.

"It is a two-door, essentially a competitor for the Mustang," says Catherine Madden, a production analyst for industry research group Global Insight. "They are really excited about it."

Madden says the sport coupe is planned to debut in 2009, when the next-generation LX vehicles are scheduled to be re-engineered and restyled.

"They would be able to make some additional investment in the platform, make some adjustments for that product" at that time, she says.

"The enthusiasm for that product," Madden says, is "very big."

Chrysler hopes to sell 60,000 to 70,000 of the cars a year, she says. An assembly site was not identified. Production of the 300, Magnum and recently introduced Charger is expected to fill Chrysler's Brampton, Ontario, assembly plant.

Chrysler officials are not talking about the car, but industry analysts say they are familiar with the plans.

Jim Hall, vice president of industry analysis at AutoPacific Inc., says he isn't sure Chrysler can pull it off. "They have a lot of stuff that has to be cleared off the table before they start playing around with that car," he says.

The redesigned 2005 Mustang has exceeded initial sales estimates. Ford expects to build 192,000 Mustangs this year, and most retail units are selling at a price near the sticker.

The 1970-74 Challenger was Dodge's answer to the original Mustang, as well as the Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac Firebird, Mercury Cougar, and AMC Javelin.

Azrael4h
11-13-2005, 10:10 PM
I'd like to put a little bit out on the lack of a manual myself.

To my knowledge; the 345 "Hemi" couldn't pass emissions with a manual. I believe it's slightly less friendly to the folks at the EPA than an auto; and with an engine that's hard enough to get past the legal limits; that's a big nono. Add in the fact that most folks nowadays can't drive a stick worth a damn, and the makority of those won't even buy a car without an auto, and it makes no sense to put one in there. I'm just confused as to why the 289 V8 (4.7, I can never remember the exact real displacement) has not gotten the MDS, and why it's not an offering in HO form in the LXs. Or for that matter why DCX won't just drop the thing, and destroke the 345 to have a smaller displacement V8. Try 261 or so cubes. Chop a couple cyninders off to replace the 225 V6. You'll save money in the long run, and you don't have to slap the Hemi nameplate on them.

I actually have come to like the "Charger", though I would much have preferred the return of the Coronet nameplate to this, and the Charger to a hot 2 door coupe with the same interior dimensions as the sedan. Most people don't look at the fact that the majority of coupes are either over priced, like the Stratus, or have no room in the back(or both). I'm planning on dumping my Camaro sometime early next year because of the complete lack of a trunk to put the tools that I'm uncomfortable being without. Add in the complete lack of a useable rear seat, and the car sucks. The problem gets worse when you factor in my reluctance to drive a deathtrap FWD car. I bought a Camaro because There wasn't another rear-drive save another camaro and a ford that wouldn't crank where I bought it, and due to my finances that was the only place I could buy at the time. Not that that would matter, as I am pretty much stuck with the M bodied Mopars, the land barge Chevy and Ford, or the camaro/Firebird or mustang. I don't want a truck. The "Charger" and the 300N are both on my list of cars that I'm considering when I get ready to buy, depending on what kind of money I have and what they're worth. Along with an AMC AMX or Javelin, a '69 Dodge Coronet, and a '73-76 Dodge Dart.

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