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which gas to run?tarabull 03-31-2005, 06:13 PM Since I got the car I have been putting supreme, 93 oct in it... do I need to buy that high of octane ($2.50/gal). I'm only getting 14MPG and I'm interested in saving a few bucks.... don't wanna trash the car tho. There is a thread on the forum that is saying to add acetone to your gas to get a 15-50% increase in mpg... whaddya think? Zgringo 03-31-2005, 06:37 PM Since I got the car I have been putting supreme, 93 oct in it... do I need to buy that high of octane ($2.50/gal). I'm only getting 14MPG and I'm interested in saving a few bucks.... don't wanna trash the car tho. There is a thread on the forum that is saying to add acetone to your gas to get a 15-50% increase in mpg... whaddya think? I don't about acetone but I'll ckeck into it, but I do know you can use TOLUENE (paint thinner) and raise the octaine level up to 115-117. DeleriousZ 03-31-2005, 08:02 PM i think your car's an n/a, so running anything over regular is a waste of cash imo... k3smostwanted 03-31-2005, 08:02 PM Since I got the car I have been putting supreme, 93 oct in it... do I need to buy that high of octane ($2.50/gal). I'm only getting 14MPG and I'm interested in saving a few bucks.... don't wanna trash the car tho. There is a thread on the forum that is saying to add acetone to your gas to get a 15-50% increase in mpg... whaddya think? you have a n/a right??? if it is an N/A you will be fine to go down a grade or 2. i usually put mid grade in mine which is 89...but i havent driven mine all that much. i think delerious is putting 87 or 89 in his n/a without a problem...just dont go to some back hills gas station and put some leaded fuel in there. :D i bring this to your attention because i was drivingt through a small town in western indiana a few weekends ago and this little gas station shack with one pump was still advertising leaded gasoline. :lol: tarabull 03-31-2005, 08:41 PM cool, yes, i'm n/a (what does that mean anyway) so i will go down to regular 87 oct..... Thanks! DeleriousZ 03-31-2005, 09:01 PM naturally aspirated engine... just means your plain old engine.... no forced induction (turbo/supercharger or nitrous) stephenp 03-31-2005, 09:17 PM yeah nok it down to 87 and once a month or every other drop the few extra and use 93 and inj. cleaner (cheap 1.39$ injector cleaner) or add a bit of toulene lol and on that not when i went to the calculation chart i found that toulene is rated to the equvalant of 115 and xylene (which i burned my hands with before chemical burns suck ) but xylene is rated 117 but when you add that to the gas the #s drop alot (simple averaging sorta deal cherryZ 03-31-2005, 11:20 PM dont diss higher octane fuel in NA motors they often act to clean the internals of the engine elimintating carbon buildups, so even if you don't use it everytime you fill up I would recommend it occasionally to increase the life of your engine DeleriousZ 04-01-2005, 12:14 AM i've been told that higher octane fuels just increase the carbon buildup on most n/a engines.... someone coulda been pulling my leg tho.... ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-01-2005, 12:45 AM I don't about acetone but I'll ckeck into it, but I do know you can use TOLUENE (paint thinner) and raise the octaine level up to 115-117. hmm interesting never heard this b4 ive heard something like it ... cherryZ 04-01-2005, 01:53 AM Running higher octane on any engine is never going to detrimental (to a given degree), higher octane fuel, from a pump anyway, often contains additives which break down carbon deposits, promoting more efficient combustion. Cleaner fuel injection nozzles encounter less hang-up, promoting a faster and more complete burn. Doesn't have anything to do with whether or not your cars boosted, and your car isnt going to run richer or anything. stephenp 04-01-2005, 08:31 AM that is what im told too and the build up? its a cleaner puirer fuel how would it create carbon? somebodys pulling something lol and the whole deal with cleaning inj thats why i said once a month or every other month deal i use 93 in all my vehicles (except work trucks they get 5 gallons water and 1 gallon of 84 octane lol not really 87 but the way they run lol Zgringo 04-01-2005, 11:34 AM Setup properly any engine can use higher octaine fuel and if you advance the timing to best use the higher octaine fuel will enhance the power of your engine. As for carbon, if you run a water injection system you won't have a carbon problem and you'll have the cleanest engine inside plus cleaner oil. No carbon = no trash inside. slideways... 04-01-2005, 11:40 AM lol dont put toluene in your gas unless you know what the fuck you are doing! toluene is a very dangerous chemical and 30:70 toluene:gas will give you around 98 octane. ;) slideways... 04-01-2005, 11:42 AM lol dont put toluene in your gas unless you know what the fuck you are doing! toluene is a very dangerous chemical and 30:70 toluene:gas will give you around 98 octane. ;) but yeah doesnt that model z have a vg30(d)e same as the old maximas? use 87 and save your money for cancer sticks and O.E. Hodo 04-01-2005, 12:47 PM Running higher octane does not clean out your engine. Thats a myth. If your car is designed to run on 87 octane then you can run 85-89 without much of a issue. You ECU will adapt the timing accordingly. As for a car like the Z32 you have to run 91 or better, you CAN run 91-95 without much of a issue. But when you start to get below the 91 mark you start getting real unstable combustion above 2500RPMs. there is not much of a difference between the octane levels cleaning capabilities, they all have about the same addatives in them. My only suggestion is at about 100k miles or so I would run a bottle of rubbing alchol through the gas tank, with some gas..... whatever you normaly run, this will absorb any water in your tank, and get it out of there. BlackBettyZ 04-01-2005, 01:00 PM Or you can add some valve grind to your tank, ahaaha tarabull 04-01-2005, 05:17 PM ok, here's the link to the acetone thread http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=385048 I'm gonna go down to regular and add some acetone... we'll see what happens cherryZ 04-01-2005, 09:15 PM Hodo, of course running higher octane petrol isn't going to be cleaning out your engine any better. Lol, if you believe that i've got a bowser full of ethanol for your Z i swear it won't corrode it :evillol: liam91ttz 04-02-2005, 07:07 AM lol u cant ever overlook ciggs and 40's tarabull 04-02-2005, 08:25 AM YOu know, its been sooooooooooooooooooo long since I've even thought about olde english that i almost asked what o.e. was... brings back many memories of my first car, a 1985 S10 beat to hell when I got it, but damn I loved those days!!!! stephenp 04-02-2005, 07:39 PM on the note of it not cleaning and same additives isnt it more volitle (higher octane ) and try and disolve a large quantity of something like styrofoam in 87 and then in 94 see which can disolve more and faster lol (napalm) i bet the 94 wins lol proving itll clean the engines carbon diposites crash4519 04-08-2005, 11:16 PM I am look to buy a 90' 300z, but i was told to run 91, but gas prices are insane i was wondering since it's not turbo or anything that i might be ok if i just used fuel injector cleaner often? thanks for any help. ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-08-2005, 11:23 PM u shouldnt have to run fuel injector cleaner often or ever since its not turbo you shouldnt have to run 91 unless i think ive heard that your suppoes to run 91 in tha z32's .. im sure sum1 else can clarify. crash4519 04-08-2005, 11:58 PM Yah the guy that owns the car says that the manual says to run 91, but i don't think its necesary, esp. since gas is like 2.69 fro 87 oct., but I am open to all opinions, so let me know im probably going to put an offer in on the car sometime next week so let me know. thanks DeleriousZ 04-09-2005, 12:01 AM 2.69 for 97 is not high, come to the west coast of canada, we'll show you what high priced gas really is... ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-09-2005, 12:03 AM yah you was tellin me delirious in utehr thread its expensive but now here i seen $2.87 for 89 regular . DeleriousZ 04-09-2005, 12:05 AM up to 104.9 per litre here... that means a $55 tank of gas that lasts me 2 weeks at best... stephenp 04-09-2005, 12:17 AM hell i spend 35 to 40 like 2 times a week for my bonnevile lol and like 35 for my z now come on lol i guess i like to drive a little more than most people DeleriousZ 04-09-2005, 12:26 AM yeah i drive about 17 miles round trip to and from work a day, sometimes more depending on what happens after work, but still, low mileage high gas useage... and i'm n/a too... getting the gas mileage of a turbo but not the power:( k3smostwanted 04-09-2005, 12:34 AM well i guess im kinda fortunate...the highest i have seen gas here is 2.56 for 93 octane. but it still is alot!!! stephenp 04-09-2005, 12:38 AM about the same for gas prices here i try not to pay attention due to i probably wouldnt wanna drive so much lol DeleriousZ 04-09-2005, 01:09 AM where abouts is it you live again k3? i'm moving there lol k3smostwanted 04-09-2005, 01:37 AM where abouts is it you live again k3? i'm moving there lol south of the windy city AKA chi town AKA chicago....ok never mind me, im really bored and tired Zgringo 04-09-2005, 11:22 AM Common K3 tell him you live 35 miles south of Chicago, Kankakee. I use to drive through Kankakee every weekend when I lived in Rantoul. k3smostwanted 04-09-2005, 02:08 PM Common K3 tell him you live 35 miles south of Chicago, Kankakee. I use to drive through Kankakee every weekend when I lived in Rantoul. how do you know i live in kankakee??? :lol: thats cool though...kankakee is one of those wierd cities, that on one side (west) it is really really nice and richy but then you cross the main divider street, it turns to a whole different city...a very bad one, dirty and horrible. i havent been over there in a while... i actually live a few miles west of kankakee towards limestone... ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-09-2005, 04:54 PM yah so now that the weather is getting better we need to meet up sometime somewhere a big ----Z ---- MEet k3smostwanted 04-09-2005, 06:03 PM yah so now that the weather is getting better we need to meet up sometime somewhere a big ----Z ---- MEet we should...but i dont have a Z running yet. well i have my Z31 but i wouldnt trust it to make a half way decent trip, not yet atleast. ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-11-2005, 12:16 AM oh ok ya just gotta promise not ta laugh when ya see my car lol j/k Zgringo 04-11-2005, 01:44 PM how do you know i live in kankakee??? :lol: thats cool though...kankakee is one of those wierd cities, that on one side (west) it is really really nice and richy but then you cross the main divider street, it turns to a whole different city...a very bad one, dirty and horrible. i havent been over there in a while... i actually live a few miles west of kankakee towards limestone... Will I didn't live in Rantoul, but at Chanute AFB.. We'll be up your way in June and Sept. at Joliet. I don't remember much of Kankakee, as I was usually blown out of my gord, blind ass drunk, and it was like real late at night or early in the morning. k3smostwanted 04-11-2005, 05:41 PM I don't remember much of Kankakee, as I was usually blown out of my gord, blind ass drunk, and it was like real late at night or early in the morning. yeah we get alot of those around here...:lol: anyways, give me the dates when your gonna be at the joliet speedway, later...thats only about an hour and a half drive for me. so i might like to check out one of them...maybe me and extremedrift can cruise down to one of them this year... Zgringo 04-12-2005, 02:19 AM June 9-12 and Sept. 29- Oct 2. k3smostwanted 04-12-2005, 05:42 PM June 9-12 and Sept. 29- Oct 2. hopefully i will get to meet ya Al...ill contact you closer to the time. Zgringo 04-13-2005, 01:10 AM hopefully i will get to meet ya Al...ill contact you closer to the time. That would be great, and I promise not to hug you or kiss you on the cheek. DeleriousZ 04-13-2005, 01:13 AM That would be great, and I promise not to hug you or kiss you on the cheek. i don't :evillol: uh... disregard that... my head is spinning from all this terribly translated text from japanese sites... ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-13-2005, 02:14 AM June 9-12 and Sept. 29- Oct 2. yah tahst cool hopefully by then we can meet up bullshit or whatever since i can get to joliet speedway in like 40 mins lol ExTrEmEDrIfT 04-13-2005, 02:17 AM i don't :evillol: uh... disregard that... my head is spinning from all this terribly translated text from japanese sites... lol i know what ya mean when it translates alot of it or translates it very poorly and your like wtf lol what do you use to translate i dont use a specific one i just type in google webpage translator or something like that lol Yaggus 04-13-2005, 08:32 AM i use altavista's "bablefish" translster when im looking for cars to buy from Japan. thats alright. you can normally get the gist of what they are trying to say from that. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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