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Eclipsecivic9794
03-15-2005, 05:50 PM
My and my brother in law were cruising in his brand new 2005 35th anniversary 350ZX coupe. On our way to the store, my brother in laws co-worker with his Red 2005 Mustang GT rolled up next to us and thought he can take us at the light. It's 2am in the morning no cops around se we decided to take him on. when the light turned green we got the start. but in the MID end they started gaining real real slow up on us. but we got him on the first run then on the second where teh freeway entrance ramp is at we got them good. we left the mustang 3 to 4 cars behind us @ 151 MPH. what happened V8 vs V6??? Mustangs are slow.

so my question is do u think if i get all my Greddy turbo upgrade on my 97 GS-T Eclipse, with all the piping, and short ram Injen I/E.
I can take this stang? if a 350ZX did.
cuz he asked me to race him, and i told him not yet hehe.
i'm just looking for some opinions.

Sticky
03-15-2005, 06:06 PM
That's definately more of a driver's race, since the two are almost equal. And a Cobra would eat a 350Z alive, so there goes the mustangs are slow theory.

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
03-15-2005, 06:10 PM
First of all I have trouble believng this race ever happened, and 151mph on public roads is very unsafe, but only if you actually did it.

ricesucks
03-15-2005, 06:19 PM
I doubt your telling the truth. You rode in a car that you dont even know the name of it...Its 350Z! Not ZX! I personaly dislike ford, but I have to say, a mustang GT is fasta then a 350z.

drftk1d
03-15-2005, 06:30 PM
mustang gt and 350z is a pretty even race.

they run identical 1/4 times, i'm not positive but the Z traps higher (maybe).

i can believe 150mph though, i was i a friends car doing 140 on a deserted road (not a highway); we werent racing.

ricesucks
03-15-2005, 06:50 PM
Mabye I read to many mag's, but from what I have read, the mustang gt did 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and ran like 13.9? I know some mags are off a bit, but last I read, the Z ran like 5.7seconds to 60 and 14.3 1/4 mile? My stats may be off....Have Z's changed sence like 04?

cash1188
03-15-2005, 06:58 PM
then there was a reason i couldnt find out anything about a 350zx

crunchymilk55
03-15-2005, 07:26 PM
lol ^^^

But yeah, with some money in your GS-T (don't buy a greddy turbo), there are MUCH better and cheaper options, you could easily smoke both of them, (along with supporting modifications of course)

Take a look at www.dsmtuners.com and see for yourself

UnderEstimate Me
03-15-2005, 08:30 PM
About How much would it cost to get a GS T into high 13's? Whats the difference between a Gsx and a Gst?

carrrnuttt
03-15-2005, 08:56 PM
A 35th Anniversary 350Z has 300HP, matching the heavier 3V 2005 Mustang GT in power. Not to mention the atrocious frontal area of the Mustang, all in the name of creating a "modern classic". I don't see why the 350Z couldn't walk away from the GT, especially at higher speeds.


Non-anniversary-edition 350Z's, and 1999-2004 GT's are pretty much a driver's race.

EDIT: Although 287HP 350Z's will still generally walk away from 260HP GT's on the top-end, as the GT loses it's TQ-band advantage.

beyondloadedSE
03-15-2005, 08:58 PM
About How much would it cost to get a GS T into high 13's? Whats the difference between a Gsx and a Gst?

probably very few mods. Even fewer with a gsx. Both gst and gsx are turbocharged, but the gst is fwd where as the gsx is awd.

TheStang00
03-15-2005, 10:55 PM
the hp may be equal but the stang has a huge torque advantage, sounds like the driver just sucked. and ive seen numbers from those mustangs running 0-60 in under 5 seconds and a quarter in 13.5

SiGNAL748
03-15-2005, 11:01 PM
the hp may be equal but the stang has a huge torque advantage, sounds like the driver just sucked. and ive seen numbers from those mustangs running 0-60 in under 5 seconds and a quarter in 13.5

Torque advantage by maybe a high peak at a low rpm; but to keep the car moving, it has to keep the curve flat and multiply, Which the Z does better than the GT. This is not to say that the 350Z is ultimately faster than a GT, it still could have been a driver's race.

And to add to carrrnuttt's post, the 350Z Track's also have the bump to 300hp.

1993_GT
03-15-2005, 11:19 PM
My and my brother in law were cruising in his brand new 2005 35th anniversary 350ZX coupe. On our way to the store, my brother in laws co-worker with his Red 2005 Mustang GT rolled up next to us and thought he can take us at the light. It's 2am in the morning no cops around se we decided to take him on. when the light turned green we got the start. but in the MID end they started gaining real real slow up on us. but we got him on the first run then on the second where teh freeway entrance ramp is at we got them good. we left the mustang 3 to 4 cars behind us @ 151 MPH. what happened V8 vs V6??? Mustangs are slow.

so my question is do u think if i get all my Greddy turbo upgrade on my 97 GS-T Eclipse, with all the piping, and short ram Injen I/E.
I can take this stang? if a 350ZX did.
cuz he asked me to race him, and i told him not yet hehe.
i'm just looking for some opinions.
:bs: :bs:

2000LS1Z28
03-15-2005, 11:20 PM
mustang gt and 350z is a pretty even race.

they run identical 1/4 times, i'm not positive but the Z traps higher (maybe).

i can believe 150mph though, i was i a friends car doing 140 on a deserted road (not a highway); we werent racing.
Nope they don't even run remotely close 1/4 mile wise. A 350Z will see 14 sec. flat 1/4 mile times, whereas a 2005 Mustang GT will run a mid 13 sec. pass, at over 100 mph (The automatic versions trap lower, as their gearing sucks in 3rd).
This post has BS written all over it. What from the 05 Mustang GT, which coincidentally dynos 40 whp higher then a 350Z, losing from a roll. That would be one heckuva lousy driver. I still can't fathom hitting 151mph in either vehicle. I did a run against Danno to 140 (Though he made me run up to 150, cause he's a greedy bastard), and I almost saw him run into the side of a car, as he wasn't able to control his car that well at that speed.

-Jayson-
03-15-2005, 11:26 PM
I think my Cavalier SS would take it. . .

drftk1d
03-15-2005, 11:27 PM
which is why i tacked on the "maybe" to the end of it, indicating that i have an idea of what the matchup is like but am not sure.

if teh stang is faster, then it is faster.

but i dont think a 350z would "smoke" a 05 mustang gt. i think it would be rather close. i've seen high 13's (like 13.8, 13.9) from a Z but i'm probably wrong.

ricesucks
03-16-2005, 06:45 AM
I looked up some more specs, it looks like the Z runs 1/4 mile slower, but traps 2-4mph faster...That means it has more top end....Right?

TatII
03-16-2005, 09:48 AM
when they tested the 35th anniversary Z, they tested it on a dusty surface which explains the crappy the 1/4 mile time. that Z traps around 3 mph faster then the standard Z. a car thats traps 102-103 is definitly a high 13 second car.

Tru Mach1Racer
03-16-2005, 10:36 AM
A 35th Anniversary 350Z has 300HP, matching the heavier 3V 2005 Mustang GT in power. Not to mention the atrocious frontal area of the Mustang, all in the name of creating a "modern classic". I don't see why the 350Z couldn't walk away from the GT, especially at higher speeds.


Non-anniversary-edition 350Z's, and 1999-2004 GT's are pretty much a driver's race.

EDIT: Although 287HP 350Z's will still generally walk away from 260HP GT's on the top-end, as the GT loses it's TQ-band advantage.

I don't want to use a magazine to prove a point however, Road and Track just tested a Mustang GT at 13.9 @101.4 for real. 35th Anniversary 350Z got a 14.1 @ 101.8 on the test. With that said, Motor Trend book have tested the Mustang GT to 13.5 @ 103. My favorites mag Car and Driver got 14.3 @ 101 and said that it was slow than the other 350z's. And the Mustang got a 13.8 @ 102. And curb weight are 350z = 3360 vs GT = 3523. Less than 200 pound difference.

With that said, I would not go by the Ford dealership making too much noise in a 350z in any factory trim level any day.



http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0412_mustang_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0503_best_sports_car_data_panel.pdf

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=16&article_id=9269&page_number=2

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=8778&page_number=4

TheStang00
03-16-2005, 11:47 AM
i dont know what road & track u read... mine says 13.5 at 104mph. for the gt. and id also like to call

TheStang00
03-16-2005, 11:48 AM
oops.... wrong button, as i was saying id also like to call :bs: on this one... he probably raced a v6 lol.

Tru Mach1Racer
03-16-2005, 11:52 AM
i dont know what road & track u read... mine says 13.5 at 104mph. for the gt. and id also like to call

This is what road and track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/...ustang_data.pdf

Which do you read? Link it please.

BP2K2Max
03-16-2005, 01:15 PM
the stang makes more tq, the z weighs 250 lbs less, i think it'd come down to driver. a 4-5 car lead for either vehicle seems strange to me though, you sure the 'stang didn't miss a gear?

Yamahapower
03-16-2005, 02:07 PM
Mustangs are slow.
.

Bring your lil 350z and ill show you slow. Oh ya...MAJOR BS.

AWP9521
03-16-2005, 02:21 PM
I looked up some more specs, it looks like the Z runs 1/4 mile slower, but traps 2-4mph faster...That means it has more top end....Right?

Weight and aerodynamics come into play on the top end, they both have the same power rating, but like previously said, the stang is heavier and is not as aerodynamic as the 350Z, so it has to push more wind as the speed increases, so yes it is feasable for the Z to have a higher trap speed because it is lighter and slices through the wind easier, not necessarily because it has more top end.

TheStang00
03-16-2005, 03:16 PM
the link to that road & track didnt open for me, i actually got the mag, its the april 05 issue

Tru Mach1Racer
03-16-2005, 05:15 PM
the link to that road & track didnt open for me, i actually got the mag, its the april 05 issue

Try this link
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=1662&page_number=1

350z does not have the same power as the Mustang GT. Motor Trend has dyno numbers. 283 ft/lb @4300 at the wheels of the Mustang GT whould have exhaust all in the intake of the 350z with 260 ft/lb rated from the engine.

As far as the 350z being faster because of wind drag. It would still be playing catch up to it's governor. The race would have long been called due to the ages that it would take to get to 150 with no traffic and sensable street racers knowing when to say it's over.

350z best bet is to draft off the Mustang GT until a 140+ mph and then pull that NASCAR shit, and come around for the big banked turn on the inside apex where the STATE PATROL COP CAR sits in the sholder.

youngvr4
03-16-2005, 05:28 PM
the mustang in the 1320 is gonna be victorious. 13.6 seems to be about the average for the new mustang

300hp and 320lbs tq

in the long run, its a close call. its possible either could possibly win, but not by 3 car lengths. that i wont beleive, unless the guy misshifted. wich is probably what happen. if happen at all

eps
03-16-2005, 08:00 PM
The 350z is limited at 150mph.

Tru Mach1Racer
03-16-2005, 08:08 PM
The 350z is limited at 150mph.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/..._data_panel.pdf

In the above link, you will find road and track to test the 35th Anniversary 350Z.

They got it to 155 mph in 6th gear @ 5700 rpms.

Mr. Luos
03-16-2005, 08:39 PM
what happened V8 vs V6??? Mustangs are slow.
Well, the Mustangs are slow theory only holds up when they are actually slower than you, and in this case, I don't think they are.

I have a feeling you ran into a V6 Mustang. If the story is true.

TheStang00
03-16-2005, 09:52 PM
yeah those mid 13 cars are slow... i know i wish mine was that slow lol

Mr. Luos
03-17-2005, 12:00 AM
yeah those mid 13 cars are slow... i know i wish mine was that slow lol
Personally, anything that can run a 14.99 or better isn't slow at all.
A mid 13 is impressive, even more so outta the box. :evillol:

I wish I didn't run on a mountain.....

TatII
03-17-2005, 12:26 AM
well a v6 could not keep up with a 350Z let a lone a 35th anniversary edition one up to 150mph by being only 3 cars behind. i think the guy missed 5th.

carrrnuttt
03-17-2005, 01:24 AM
I don't want to use a magazine to prove a point however, Road and Track just tested a Mustang GT at 13.9 @101.4 for real. 35th Anniversary 350Z got a 14.1 @ 101.8 on the test. With that said, Motor Trend book have tested the Mustang GT to 13.5 @ 103. My favorites mag Car and Driver got 14.3 @ 101 and said that it was slow than the other 350z's. And the Mustang got a 13.8 @ 102. And curb weight are 350z = 3360 vs GT = 3523. Less than 200 pound difference.

With that said, I would not go by the Ford dealership making too much noise in a 350z in any factory trim level any day.



http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0412_mustang_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/download/0503_best_sports_car_data_panel.pdf

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=16&article_id=9269&page_number=2

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=8778&page_number=4


Don't get me wrong. I am a fan of both cars, but me more so the Cobras. It's just that I have been disappointed with Ford's Mustang offerings lately. I understand the purpose of the V6 - allowing the GT and the SVT line to exist - but the GTs have just been disappointing lately, and this latest offering is not that much better. Yes, they added more power, but only to add more weight? They were supposed to be starting from the ground up (although the platform is the LX, same as the one used for the Lincoln LS), and Ford had the chance to make something really special. They couldn't even put a 6-speed in it, when they can do it for a freakin' FOCUS. And although the 3V is much better than the 2V, why not a 4V? It's not like there's a Cobra to over-shadow, is there?

I haven't seen a 2005 GT run at the local track yet, but I have yet to see a stock/near-stock new-edge GT run a better pass than a 14.5 - at least personally - and although I have seen a 350Z run a 16.1, I have seen another 350Z run a 14.0 at the same track.

I frequent Nissan, and Ford boards, and if you ask each group of owners (350Z vs New Edge GT's), they'll say the same thing - their type of car waxes the other - and both will say the other is talking out of their respective asses.

As for 1/4, the GT, and even better, the Mach 1, will always have the advantage with the live-axles. If you notice, I gave the advantage to the 350 on the top-end. For those of you that want to argue, the 350 surpasses 150 mph, while the 2005 GT is DRAG-LIMITED to 147 mph.

Tru Mach1Racer
03-17-2005, 01:49 AM
You maybe right. Ford did screw up the new GT. It has more weight and the style has went backwards than forwards. Why it doesn't have a 6 speed, it's simple. It don't have enough power to make it useful and it does not wastes as much gas as the LS-1's ( remember skip shift and weak 5 and 6). Ford will not make a trans gearing for a lowly powered GT and High powered Cobra trans gearing. Cost to much, remember Mustang is CHEAPER.

209 neon
03-17-2005, 02:24 AM
well lets see what we have here ummmmmmmmmm........a over priced nissan and need I say more A FORD...........both a major disappointment more so to the nissan :disappoin .........I think I would have to go with ummmmmmmmmmmmm..............................a more legit story maybe :grinno: but comparing those two cars in the 1320 I would have to take the pony dispite how crappy ford is....... :lol:

Tru Mach1Racer
03-17-2005, 02:35 AM
well lets see what we have here ummmmmmmmmm........a over priced nissan and need I say more A FORD...........both a major disappointment more so to the nissan :disappoin .........I think I would have to go with ummmmmmmmmmmmm..............................a more legit story maybe :grinno: but comparing those two cars in the 1320 I would have to take the pony dispite how crappy ford is....... :lol:

I should remind you that your role in this street racing life is to bow down to something greater you. And I think a Ford Focus is where you should start. Don't hate, congratulate. Anybody with one of these cars will have fun while owning them and mybe owning you.

No offense to any other Neon owners.

209 neon
03-17-2005, 02:45 AM
I should remind you that your role in this street racing life is to bow down to something greater you. And I think a Ford Focus is where you should start. Don't hate, congratulate. Anybody with one of these cars will have fun while owning them and mybe owning you.

No offense to any other Neon owners.

1. the nos svt ford focus with like 170ish hp what a joke........ :nono:

2. my role in this street racing life is to bow down to something greater than me :uhoh: :grinno: did you get that from the fast and the furious
3 script :nono:

4. dont hate congratulate.....ummmmm hate what????????? FORDS

5. oh yeah no offense to any other mustang owner.....

Tru Mach1Racer
03-17-2005, 02:49 AM
1. the nos svt ford focus with like 170ish hp what a joke........ :nono:

2. my role in this street racing life is to bow down to something greater than me :uhoh: :grinno: did you get that from the fast and the furious
3 script :nono:

4. dont hate congratulate.....ummmmm hate what????????? FORDS

5. oh yeah no offense to any other mustang owner.....
All i will say to end this is, You should know better than to Mach me.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/thug1love2003/Mach1pic16Dyno.jpg

209 neon
03-17-2005, 02:59 AM
All i will say to end this is, You should know better than to Mach me.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/thug1love2003/Mach1pic16Dyno.jpg

wow :eek: I am impressed with that last sentence MACH ME...........I get it :lol2: :grinno:

chill out mach1 dude I am simply saying that FORDS dont do give me a woody like DODGES do....................but I am not saying hidalgos are slow......well not all of them at least..... :rolleyes:

Tru Mach1Racer
03-17-2005, 03:06 AM
wow :eek: I am impressed with that last sentence MACH ME...........I get it :lol2: :grinno:

chill out mach1 dude I am simply saying that FORDS dont do give me a woody like DODGES do....................but I am not saying hidalgos are slow......well not all of them at least..... :rolleyes:

Cool, I got the wrong imppression. I'm sorry. Really I'm a Dodge boy any way but they didn't have a v8 HEMI in a 2 door for sale so, I got a Mach 1 after pissing on Mustangs for years cause everybody had one and they were slow. At least most of them were slow. But mine is 1 of 2550 Blue Azure 03' Mach 1 5 speed slightly modded.

209 neon
03-17-2005, 03:10 AM
Cool, I got the wrong imppression. I'm sorry. Really I'm a Dodge boy any way but they didn't have a v8 HEMI in a 2 door for sale so, I got a Mach 1 after pissing on Mustangs for years cause everybody had one and they were slow. At least most of them were slow. But mine is 1 of 2550 Blue Azure 03' Mach 1 5 speed slightly modded.

just of curiousity what are your 1320 times with your modds?????

Tru Mach1Racer
03-17-2005, 03:19 AM
just of curiousity what are your 1320 times with your modds?????

12.8 1/4 mile on stock Goodyear ZR 245/45/17's
I got Predator programer, K/N filter, Borla Stinger 2.5 catback.
Thursday afternoon, I will be the proud owner of 4 new Pirelli P ZERO NERO's just like the new Mustang GT. Motor Trend said they worked great on that car and they cut 0-60 in 5.1 in their November 2004 issue.

CassiesMan
03-17-2005, 10:29 AM
1. the nos svt ford focus with like 170ish hp what a joke........ :nono:

I think with the nitrous spraying (It was a Saleen I think, not an SVT), it ran a high 14, low 15...you dont even get it with the bottle full. The thing is a joke...I would follow up with something else about jokes and Fords, but I dont wanna sart a flame war. Im outy, peace!

TheStang00
03-17-2005, 12:26 PM
guy talking shit that owns a neon... thats not much better than detroit muscle, but anyway the one guy said he didnt think there was a cobra to overshadow so why not make the gt more powerful... there is a cobra to overshadow it just didnt come out this year because of the new model, there also might be a shelby mustang, and i know they are remaking the shelby gt500R with the EXACT same body. and wtf... i didnt know running a 1/4 in 13.5 was slow... i still wish my car was that slow...

TheStang00
03-17-2005, 12:31 PM
u have to keep in mind that the GT only costs 25k, its not intended to be a super car.

Yamahapower
03-17-2005, 12:44 PM
All i will say to end this is, You should know better than to Mach me.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/thug1love2003/Mach1pic16Dyno.jpg

NICE car dude. :smokin:

http://s93908519.onlinehome.us/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_15806/front.jpg

Tru Mach1Racer
03-17-2005, 12:49 PM
Heah man, thank. Yours look great too.

Hear is a pic for all the Neon Street Racers. Mustangs do have love for their Detroit counterparts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/thug1love2003/DSC00362.jpg

209 neon
03-17-2005, 10:15 PM
[QUOTE=TheStang00]guy talking shit that owns a neon... thats not much better than detroit muscle, QUOTE]

like little john says "WHAT".... :eek7:

209 neon
03-17-2005, 10:18 PM
Heah man, thank. Yours look great too.

Hear is a pic for all the Neon Street Racers. Mustangs do have love for their Detroit counterparts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/thug1love2003/DSC00362.jpg

pretty clean cars if I might add expecially that cert..... :naughty:

Steiner
03-18-2005, 12:33 AM
I smell bullshit. It would take one helluva straightaway to get both cars up to 150mph. You're talking about a good 60-90 seconds depending on the weather, topography of the road, anglesm curves, bumps, wind, etc. You also have to have shit for brains to try something like that sans a very few exceptions...bridges, Nevada desert, Nebraska plains, fuggin airport runway, etc. :screwy:

Getting that big GT up to those speeds on those skinny tires and raised stance is tantamount to suicide. You hit a booger on the road and that thing will get squirly. Secondly, I personally would never take a 350Z to those speeds based on all the tuner reviews I've read and the 1st hand accounts I've been witness to. Those cars may look good and accelerate at a pretty good clip but they are not sure-footed at anything close to autobahn speeds from my understanding. My brother in law sold an E36 M3 and bought an Infinity G35 coupe 2 years ago. He traded it in 6 months later because he couldn't stand the vague feedback, loose feel and overall watered down feel of the car. He's since bought an IS300 with a full coilover setup and is quite happy. When he drove my Evo through the foothills about 2 weeks ago he went on for about 15 minutes telling me how the G35/350Z model was a "fat ass" and he knew 2 other owners who traded them in within a year after buying them for better handling cars...one bought an '05 GTO and the other bought a Mazdaspeed Miata. I was shocked. I mean I knew from experience in my old SRT-4 that the straight line wasn't their specialty, but to hear from a former owner that the handling was disappointing was a surprise.

One of the big magazines said it best when they claimed the 350Z was most at home at about 75%-80%. Based on the Z's target demographic I'm not surprised.

BTW...I've yet to see up close what the new 350Z anniversary edition can do, but my understanding is that the extra HP is attributed to a slightly higher compression ratio and rev limit. That means top end power ONLY has been improved if I'm understanding things right. I haven't seen up close what an '05 Mustang GT can do either but the magazines seem to be hanging on its nuts. Just the same I've seen an '03 Mustang GT with exhaust put 2 cars on a (stock sounding :smokin: ) 350Z from about 45mph to 100mph on the freeway. Obviously that doesn't have anything to do with this thread, but in the end that Mustang is a much better platform for tuning.

BP2K2Max
03-18-2005, 11:26 AM
I smell bullshit. It would take one helluva straightaway to get both cars up to 150mph. You're talking about a good 60-90 seconds depending on the weather, topography of the road, anglesm curves, bumps, wind, etc. well, considering that it only takes either car 13.xx seconds to get to 102-3mph in the 1/4, i doubt it'd take a whole extra minute to reach 150. i've had my maxima up to around 135 and she still had more to give and it's more or less the same motor as the Z, though detuned. you're right it's not smart to do, but it's definitely not impossible.

BTW...I've yet to see up close what the new 350Z anniversary edition can do, but my understanding is that the extra HP is attributed to a slightly higher compression ratio and rev limit. That means top end power ONLY has been improved if I'm understanding things right. I haven't seen up close what an '05 Mustang GT can do either but the magazines seem to be hanging on its nuts. Just the same I've seen an '03 Mustang GT with exhaust put 2 cars on a (stock sounding :smokin: ) 350Z from about 45mph to 100mph on the freeway. Obviously that doesn't have anything to do with this thread, but in the end that Mustang is a much better platform for tuning.
again you're right about the 35th anniversary Z being more top end oriented. if you compare the stats between an 05 track model Z and the 35th ann. Z you'll see that the 300 hp z is down 15 ft-lbs of tq over the 287 hp models. however, i disagree that the stang is the better tuning platform. the VQ35 motor is shown to be able to handle as much as 500 whp on stock internals and can make that power at only 6-7 psi of boost. i think it really boils down to preference since both cars are quite capable sport cars.

Tru Mach1Racer
03-18-2005, 11:39 AM
well, considering that it only takes either car 13.xx seconds to get to 102-3mph in the 1/4, i doubt it'd take a whole extra minute to reach 150. i've had my maxima up to around 135 and she still had more to give and it's more or less the same motor as the Z, though detuned. you're right it's not smart to do, but it's definitely not impossible.

again you're right about the 35th anniversary Z being more top end oriented. if you compare the stats between an 05 track model Z and the 35th ann. Z you'll see that the 300 hp z is down 15 ft-lbs of tq over the 287 hp models. however, i disagree that the stang is the better tuning platform. the VQ35 motor is shown to be able to handle as much as 500 whp on stock internals and can make that power at only 6-7 psi of boost. i think it really boils down to preference since both cars are quite capable sport cars.
350z may hold 500 on stock internals, however the Mustang well perform better with the same mods done, to get the 500 hp. There no real good bolt ons for the VQ35. They all cost a lot compared to what can be obtained for the Mustang. I have yet to see a 12.9 - 12.5 done on a 350z with small amounts of money being sent. 2005 Mustang GT 12's = CAI, Catback, Nittos 555R's, Programmer. All can be had for less than $2000. 350z's in the Mid West aren't coming to race with noting less than a superchager at $4000.

danno_SS
03-20-2005, 09:44 PM
Hmm, this seems like a good time to summarize my 05 GT encounter. I didn't start a thread becuase it really wasn't all that exciting.

1. 05 GT Mustang shoots it load by 125
I ran into one of these (finally) a week and a half ago coming home from work on a Thurs. morning (2:30AM no traffic on the 210). I was just minding my own business doing 75 when an 05 GT blew by me doing 85-90 or so. I'm pretty sure he meant to get my attention so I obliged. Hammered it, downshifted cleanly to 2nd and we're off. He put about a 3 cars on me before I could stop his pull (@ ~115-120). I started making up ground quickly soon after that, by 125-130 the deficit was down to a car or so. I passed him up at about 135 and stayed on it till shortly after the 4th gear shift (I now know for a fact that occurs at 142mph). I got him by about 1.5-2 cars. I remember thinking. "hey that was a little too close".

He must of thought the same thing as he stayed back a couple of cars and shadowed me at 80. I waited for him to make his move and sure enough he did. He tried a flyby and I waited till he was 1/2 a car behind me before I floored it. He only pulled 1 car this time. I got by him at 120-125 and ran it up all the way to 153. He was at least a buslength back .... squarely in the rearview.

That being said the G35 and 350Zs I've run into seemed to be slower than the new stang ( at least to 120 ). I've pulled 2-3 cars on G35s Coupes from 80-120. The second run wth the GT leads me to believe it would've taken me upwards of 130 to pull that many cars on it.

I think the new stang gets the edge over a 350z up to about 120-130 then its crappy aerodynamics come into play and can allow the Z a victory (if it isn't too far back).

TheStang00
03-20-2005, 10:00 PM
yep ur car does have a pretty good aero advantage

Mr. Luos
03-20-2005, 10:26 PM
I still REALLY want one of those new GT's to try me.

realhate
03-24-2005, 11:57 AM
a 2005 nissan 350z, could never beat a 2005 mustang gt, never. Read any performace test or magazine. The GT will smoke it easily. People come up here and make up stuff. 0-60 for a mucstang recently tested in automobile mag was 4.9 seconds its usuallt 5.1 though. The fastest 350 z 0-60 time was 5.6 sec, please.

realhate
03-24-2005, 12:01 PM
Its not crapy dynamics. The new mustang has a governer limited 138 mph which sux. But it will smoke a 350 all the way up to it

ZackKVtec
03-24-2005, 03:57 PM
i just wanted to add something... you guys keep mentioning this 13.5 got the new GT. I think i read the whole article where they got that time and the writers were shitting their pants the whole time because of how fast it was. Factory freaks do exist you know. They even say something about 13.9 being alot more accurate for a stock GT. This was an article that tested 4 of the new mustangs in different trims. I think the saleen ran like a 13.7, the (steeda?) ran like a 13.8 and the 400hp race version ran a 13.5, oh yeah, and they ran a 13.5 with the stock GT too.

TheStang00
03-24-2005, 06:07 PM
:boink: this thread is about worn out... and the reason the 440hp race version ran slow like that was cause of the wheels on it, the one they actually race has different ones and is faster

ZackKVtec
03-24-2005, 07:43 PM
i was just letting every other tom dick and harry out there that they will not be running 13.5's in their stock 05 gt's. Also, i knew there had to be something wrong with that race mustang only running 13.5's, that seemed incredibly slow.

Yamahapower
03-24-2005, 08:48 PM
i was just letting every other tom dick and harry out there that they will not be running 13.5's in their stock 05 gt's.

And how the hell do you know!?!?

Mr. Luos
03-24-2005, 08:51 PM
i was just letting every other tom dick and harry out there that they will not be running 13.5's in their stock 05 gt's. Also, i knew there had to be something wrong with that race mustang only running 13.5's, that seemed incredibly slow.
13.5 is slow?? For a stock car??
I bet a lot of the 2005 GT's run in the mid 13's. They should.

realhate
03-24-2005, 09:04 PM
Point is a 350z has no hope against a 2005 mustang gt, auto or stick

ZackKVtec
03-24-2005, 10:11 PM
lol thanks yamaha, but some tom, dick and harrys may be able to pull it off but not ALL of them...

and mr. luos.. where did i say 13.5 for a stock car was slow? I said 13.5 was slow for a race car. Maybe they should run a 13.5 stock, but not all of them do... but how would i know, im only using information i found in a magazine... i wont get to see it in person until it warms up and i start heading up to NE dragway.

Mr. Luos
03-24-2005, 10:18 PM
and mr. luos.. where did i say 13.5 for a stock car was slow? I said 13.5 was slow for a race car. Maybe they should run a 13.5 stock, but not all of them do...
There I go mis-reading shit again.

The new GT with a capable driver should hit low 13's. Stock. Like you said though, there are going to be people that own them, but can't drive them. Expect to see stock ones running 13.5-14.2. At least I would think.

ZackKVtec
03-24-2005, 10:21 PM
im not going to lie to you, i had no idea what was going on when i started reading my road and track, and i was seeing 13.9... i was like 300hp? come on guys... i bet i could run that thing to a 13 and a half

ricesucks
03-24-2005, 10:23 PM
Point is a 350z has no hope against a 2005 mustang gt, auto or stick


I dont think so. Read the facts in this threat. A 350z traps higher. and is only a couple ticks behind if you sware by the numbers. According to you,a v6 stang goes 0-60 in 6.8 seconds, and a rsx-type S does in 6.6. You say that doesnt matter. But a mustang gt does it in 5.1 and a 350z does it in 5.3 and that is a HUGE differance. Why? Because your a bias mustang owner. You give mustang owners a bad name. I know your not all like this, but y'all with v6's have to get over it. you screwed up by buying it. :iceslolan

209 neon
03-25-2005, 01:20 AM
Point is a 350z has no hope against a 2005 mustang gt, auto or stick

where the hell do you come up with this stuff........ :screwy: gezzzzzz

CassiesMan
03-25-2005, 01:43 AM
He owns a V6 stang...he obviously isnt big on the thinking aspect of life.

209 neon
03-25-2005, 02:03 AM
ohhhhh wait a minute.....I just read his other thread...now that explains everything......lol

youngvr4
03-25-2005, 03:22 AM
only reason the mustang is putting down better times ten the Z is the TQ

for instance, a 300zxtt runs about a 13.9 with 300hp and 305lbs tq

the mustang is more like a 13.6-5 with 300hp and 320lbs tq

weighing about 3400lbs or so. its not the lightest thing out there. but the TQ is the big punch at the start.

i'm pretty sure we will here lots of, oh the new gt is a low 13 second car. oh, i seen a few run in the 12's.

lets not beleive everything we here, gt's are about mid 13's stock and thats about as good as it gets.

TheStang00
03-25-2005, 10:47 AM
like i said... this thread is a lil worn out

TatII
03-25-2005, 08:15 PM
i'm pretty sure we will here lots of, oh the new gt is a low 13 second car. oh, i seen a few run in the 12's.

lets not beleive everything we here, gt's are about mid 13's stock and thats about as good as it gets.

wow they only run high 12's? i thought i heard them running 11's out of the box? ooh crap thats what the SVT cobra runs. ( which is still pushing it alittle too far )

TheStang00
03-25-2005, 11:11 PM
He owns a V6 stang...he obviously isnt big on the thinking aspect of life.


ouch... lol comon now he doesnt represent all v6 owners... some of us are ok.

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